New marital developments

[Shiphead]

Tacoma,
I can feel your emotions while reading your last couple posts. I think many of us feel all the emotions you are having.
I have some personal thoughts on your situation that would be hard on me personally.
I really think you need to sit down and share your fears with Betsy. Don't dissuade her at this point or it's over. There is nothing wrong with asking her to just hold on a couple days longer while you work through things with her. Thats only if you absolutely need too. That isn't optimal but if you have to ask for a couple days, do it. Your relationship is still the most important thing that needs to be preserved.
Now what I think would help me if I was in your position and having your emotions.
I would sit down and have an honest talk with her. Tell her how beautiful she is and how much you love her. Enough that you are excited about wanting her to have the feelings that come wiith dating someone
new and hopefully having sex with another man. NRE is amazing. It feels so good for her to dress hot and forget responsibilities for a little while. It also feels great to have someone lust after her again. They both are trying to impress each other while trying to get laid. Dating is fun because they both go way out of their way to impress. It's not real life that can be sustained with one person for too long because even a new person needs to go back to their responsibilities and sex becomes more routine with the new person too. Eventually she will need to use the restroom, be seen when she wakes up with her hair looking a mess. All the things that happen in real life. I think you are not tell her what your expectations are/were that you need to make this work for you. (That sentence will get me some haters. They'll say it's all about her and whatever she wants. That's OK for some. But this my about my needs and things that worked in my situations) People please leave your own suggestions for him. Don't worry about me. I'm fine.
So I could never go about this the way it's going down for you. I needed to be involved in some of it. Otherwise she may as well cheat on me if she's not including me in some of it. If she's not allowing you to hear some of her calls and hear her excitement, and see some texts and pictures or video they are sending, then I would just be a babysitter and not part of this exciting event. How is she going to come home and tell you about it when she can't even share their conversations? I would tell her that I want to be excited by it all. She is telling Zaylee who wasn't even a really close friend at the time. She hadn't seen her in six months prior to sharing everything with a moderate friend. You are much more important part of this and you are her best friend. You should know more than Zaylee for sure. Betsy should be excited to share her communications with you. If not, she doesn't care about your happiness and your part in making this happen for her. Speak up my brother. If you feel included, you can relax completely. I personally needed much more than what I'm suggesting to you. My wife was cool with including me and happy to make it work for me too. Just my opinion.

[thinman]

Tacoma,

I agree with many of the points made by other posters.

1) Many women, including my wife(!), soft pedal information to their husbands about their encounters. While it sounds like her description of her date was pretty complete, I would not be surprised if Joe’s hand was actually in her panties and not just the outside. This is especially true because of their repeated phone sex in the last few weeks.

2) BTW, has she told you much about what actually happened in her phone sex encounters? Do I understand that you were not there in any of them after the first time?

3) I recall that earlier on she let you read the entire record of their text conversation. I thought this was good and healthy. Has she continued to let you read those, or as things have heated up has she become more private?

4) I agree with others that she needs to know that this is very difficult for you, and she needs to see it as a huge gift that you are giving her. As I read what you have written, I feel that the pain that you feel is not completely offset by the excitement of the pending encounter. I think it will actually be very difficult for you. She should be aware of this. I hope she makes you aware (frequently!) that you are still the most important person in her life. This will go a long way to calming your distress. Given your description, she sounds like she is caught up in a lot of NRE (with the encouragement of Zaylee!) and perhaps is taking you and your support for granted. I hope that is not the case. Best wishes with tonight and this weekend.

[Shiphead]

Thinman, very well said. Especially t he point about Zaylee and taking Tacoma for granted. He needs to speak up. He also should talk to Betsy about what will happen after the first time. I think that after the first time they sit down and then discuss everything and decide if he can handle it and about the effect it has on their relationship. Then what she plans going forward. Lastly, how it affects Tacoma's sex life with Betsy. She needs to be told that Tacoma needs to know what she plans going forward. How often Betsy wants to see Joe. Other new guys? Betsy needs to communicate everything with Tacoma.
Betsy's secret dating life with Joe and lack of communication with Tacoma will have a terrible effect on their relationship in my opinion.

[Shiphead]

McRex,
Thanks for adding your own thought but mostly for making up lies about what we said. It would have been better to just give your own thoughts. So many people are similar to you. They would rather tear down someone else's thoughts and ideas or add to the problem than be intelligent enough to understand we all have different ways of participating in this LS.
We never said anything about Betsy being his property or any other of your ignorant thoughts you attributed to us.
We were saying the number one rule of the LS.. COMMUNICATION!
In my opinion, he is feeling angst because he didn't communicate his needs. She doesn't have any responsibility to listen but she has a responsibility to keep her marriage and husband as her #1 relationship and to have her husband be her rock. Otherwise, get divorced and live a single life if your family doesn't matter.
I think if he talks to her and they understand each other's needs and fears, this will be a fantastic experience for them both.
Again, we are just giving our thoughts on what might help him from reading his post and our experience. So give him an idea instead of worrying about my thoughts on a possible solution. He is a big boy. He can read suggestions and agree or disagree on his own.

[elina]

Tacoma,

I agree with many of the points made by other posters.

1) Many women, including my wife(!), soft pedal information to their husbands about their encounters. While it sounds like her description of her date was pretty complete, I would not be surprised if Joe’s hand was actually in her panties and not just the outside. This is especially true because of their repeated phone sex in the last few weeks.

2) BTW, has she told you much about what actually happened in her phone sex encounters? Do I understand that you were not there in any of them after the first time?

3) I recall that earlier on she let you read the entire record of their text conversation. I thought this was good and healthy. Has she continued to let you read those, or as things have heated up has she become more private?

4) I agree with others that she needs to know that this is very difficult for you, and she needs to see it as a huge gift that you are giving her. As I read what you have written, I feel that the pain that you feel is not completely offset by the excitement of the pending encounter. I think it will actually be very difficult for you. She should be aware of this. I hope she makes you aware (frequently!) that you are still the most important person in her life. This will go a long way to calming your distress. Given your description, she sounds like she is caught up in a lot of NRE (with the encouragement of Zaylee!) and perhaps is taking you and your support for granted. I hope that is not the case. Best wishes with tonight and this weekend.

Tacoma,
I can feel your emotions while reading your last couple posts. I think many of us feel all the emotions you are having.
I have some personal thoughts on your situation that would be hard on me personally.
I really think you need to sit down and share your fears with Betsy. Don't dissuade her at this point or it's over. There is nothing wrong with asking her to just hold on a couple days longer while you work through things with her. Thats only if you absolutely need too. That isn't optimal but if you have to ask for a couple days, do it. Your relationship is still the most important thing that needs to be preserved.
Now what I think would help me if I was in your position and having your emotions.
I would sit down and have an honest talk with her. Tell her how beautiful she is and how much you love her. Enough that you are excited about wanting her to have the feelings that come wiith dating someone
new and hopefully having sex with another man. NRE is amazing. It feels so good for her to dress hot and forget responsibilities for a little while. It also feels great to have someone lust after her again. They both are trying to impress each other while trying to get laid. Dating is fun because they both go way out of their way to impress. It's not real life that can be sustained with one person for too long because even a new person needs to go back to their responsibilities and sex becomes more routine with the new person too. Eventually she will need to use the restroom, be seen when she wakes up with her hair looking a mess. All the things that happen in real life. I think you are not tell her what your expectations are/were that you need to make this work for you. (That sentence will get me some haters. They'll say it's all about her and whatever she wants. That's OK for some. But this my about my needs and things that worked in my situations) People please leave your own suggestions for him. Don't worry about me. I'm fine.
So I could never go about this the way it's going down for you. I needed to be involved in some of it. Otherwise she may as well cheat on me if she's not including me in some of it. If she's not allowing you to hear some of her calls and hear her excitement, and see some texts and pictures or video they are sending, then I would just be a babysitter and not part of this exciting event. How is she going to come home and tell you about it when she can't even share their conversations? I would tell her that I want to be excited by it all. She is telling Zaylee who wasn't even a really close friend at the time. She hadn't seen her in six months prior to sharing everything with a moderate friend. You are much more important part of this and you are her best friend. You should know more than Zaylee for sure. Betsy should be excited to share her communications with you. If not, she doesn't care about your happiness and your part in making this happen for her. Speak up my brother. If you feel included, you can relax completely. I personally needed much more than what I'm suggesting to you. My wife was cool with including me and happy to make it work for me too. Just my opinion.

thinman and Shiphead. I completely disagree with EVERYTHING that you both said here.
A man is going through a very emotional moment in his life and all he heard from both of you is that "she is obliged to provide a FULL report on her actions. Tell her about her plans for the future, which can change like a bolt from the blue. The wife is obliged to prepare only the truth in any situation. The wife is obliged to breathe only on command and give a written report on how many breaths she took in and how many breaths she took out. The wife must justify herself for everything she says and does in front of her husband. The wife is his property without freedom of speech and without freedom of action. Everything is allowed only with the written consent of the husband and ONLY after his approval." I exaggerated and strengthened the meaning of the advice you gave to show that the very direction of this advice can be a destructive action in the trust of two people who have just started on this path. And I consider it irresistible to shake their trust.
Do you want to know all the spicy details of her phone conversation for her husband or for yourself?

I believe that all the words and actions of the author are reasonable, because he knows the situation with his wife better than anyone else. Personally, I adhere to the position that husbands are not obliged to know EVERYTHING that a woman says or does, if she proves that her husband is in the first place for her and family is above all else. And I see from the words of the author that this woman is exactly like that, wonderful, kind, careful, attentive.

There is no need to sow the seeds of discord, you need to protect the shoots of love.
Addressing the author, I want to express words of deepest support. All emotional swings subside over time. I was told that when you jump with a parachute for the first time, the emotions are such that you can lose consciousness from their number, but then when you jump for the fiftieth time, you do it completely calmly and confidently. And over time, YOU and SHE will feel that the first strong emotions have become easier, then you will be able to confidently move in the direction that both of YOU choose. You are great Man and you are a good Husband, I see it.

Very Well Said!!!

And I do not agree with Shipheads response.
Before posting think about both sides here.
The Lady has for a long time been encouraged by Her husband to turn him into a cuckold,
She has resisted but is finally on the edge of doing this. It is a huge transition for Her.

Yes, marriages sometimes break up, not sure if that is more or less likely to happen in a cuckolding relationship or not.
But abrupt turns by a male who wants to be a cuck and the next moment he isn't sure and suddenly starts making new rules he did not indicate before is not a good way to build a solid relationship.

Sincerely
elina

[sandy691196]

Tacoma,

I agree with many of the points made by other posters.

1) Many women, including my wife(!), soft pedal information to their husbands about their encounters. While it sounds like her description of her date was pretty complete, I would not be surprised if Joe’s hand was actually in her panties and not just the outside. This is especially true because of their repeated phone sex in the last few weeks.

2) BTW, has she told you much about what actually happened in her phone sex encounters? Do I understand that you were not there in any of them after the first time?

3) I recall that earlier on she let you read the entire record of their text conversation. I thought this was good and healthy. Has she continued to let you read those, or as things have heated up has she become more private?

4) I agree with others that she needs to know that this is very difficult for you, and she needs to see it as a huge gift that you are giving her. As I read what you have written, I feel that the pain that you feel is not completely offset by the excitement of the pending encounter. I think it will actually be very difficult for you. She should be aware of this. I hope she makes you aware (frequently!) that you are still the most important person in her life. This will go a long way to calming your distress. Given your description, she sounds like she is caught up in a lot of NRE (with the encouragement of Zaylee!) and perhaps is taking you and your support for granted. I hope that is not the case. Best wishes with tonight and this weekend.

Tacoma,
I can feel your emotions while reading your last couple posts. I think many of us feel all the emotions you are having.
I have some personal thoughts on your situation that would be hard on me personally.
I really think you need to sit down and share your fears with Betsy. Don't dissuade her at this point or it's over. There is nothing wrong with asking her to just hold on a couple days longer while you work through things with her. Thats only if you absolutely need too. That isn't optimal but if you have to ask for a couple days, do it. Your relationship is still the most important thing that needs to be preserved.
Now what I think would help me if I was in your position and having your emotions.
I would sit down and have an honest talk with her. Tell her how beautiful she is and how much you love her. Enough that you are excited about wanting her to have the feelings that come wiith dating someone
new and hopefully having sex with another man. NRE is amazing. It feels so good for her to dress hot and forget responsibilities for a little while. It also feels great to have someone lust after her again. They both are trying to impress each other while trying to get laid. Dating is fun because they both go way out of their way to impress. It's not real life that can be sustained with one person for too long because even a new person needs to go back to their responsibilities and sex becomes more routine with the new person too. Eventually she will need to use the restroom, be seen when she wakes up with her hair looking a mess. All the things that happen in real life. I think you are not tell her what your expectations are/were that you need to make this work for you. (That sentence will get me some haters. They'll say it's all about her and whatever she wants. That's OK for some. But this my about my needs and things that worked in my situations) People please leave your own suggestions for him. Don't worry about me. I'm fine.
So I could never go about this the way it's going down for you. I needed to be involved in some of it. Otherwise she may as well cheat on me if she's not including me in some of it. If she's not allowing you to hear some of her calls and hear her excitement, and see some texts and pictures or video they are sending, then I would just be a babysitter and not part of this exciting event. How is she going to come home and tell you about it when she can't even share their conversations? I would tell her that I want to be excited by it all. She is telling Zaylee who wasn't even a really close friend at the time. She hadn't seen her in six months prior to sharing everything with a moderate friend. You are much more important part of this and you are her best friend. You should know more than Zaylee for sure. Betsy should be excited to share her communications with you. If not, she doesn't care about your happiness and your part in making this happen for her. Speak up my brother. If you feel included, you can relax completely. I personally needed much more than what I'm suggesting to you. My wife was cool with including me and happy to make it work for me too. Just my opinion.

thinman and Shiphead. I completely disagree with EVERYTHING that you both said here.
A man is going through a very emotional moment in his life and all he heard from both of you is that "she is obliged to provide a FULL report on her actions. Tell her about her plans for the future, which can change like a bolt from the blue. The wife is obliged to prepare only the truth in any situation. The wife is obliged to breathe only on command and give a written report on how many breaths she took in and how many breaths she took out. The wife must justify herself for everything she says and does in front of her husband. The wife is his property without freedom of speech and without freedom of action. Everything is allowed only with the written consent of the husband and ONLY after his approval." I exaggerated and strengthened the meaning of the advice you gave to show that the very direction of this advice can be a destructive action in the trust of two people who have just started on this path. And I consider it irresistible to shake their trust.
Do you want to know all the spicy details of her phone conversation for her husband or for yourself?

I believe that all the words and actions of the author are reasonable, because he knows the situation with his wife better than anyone else. Personally, I adhere to the position that husbands are not obliged to know EVERYTHING that a woman says or does, if she proves that her husband is in the first place for her and family is above all else. And I see from the words of the author that this woman is exactly like that, wonderful, kind, careful, attentive.

There is no need to sow the seeds of discord, you need to protect the shoots of love.
Addressing the author, I want to express words of deepest support. All emotional swings subside over time. I was told that when you jump with a parachute for the first time, the emotions are such that you can lose consciousness from their number, but then when you jump for the fiftieth time, you do it completely calmly and confidently. And over time, YOU and SHE will feel that the first strong emotions have become easier, then you will be able to confidently move in the direction that both of YOU choose. You are great Man and you are a good Husband, I see it.

You sir are not sowing the seeds of love.. You are fanning the fire of voyeuristic kicks at the cost of a man's genuine angst and gut level concerns about the basics of his marital relationship.

We have seen this happen in thread after thread. When a husband pauses and introspects, has a jolt of reality, others egg him on by all this inane talk of para jumps with 0 clue about the % of accidents in para training.

All that these good folks tried to do here, was support the OP through a critical phase of his life and relationship, by assuring him that there is nothing wrong with having second thoughts on the LS at the 11th hour. It's much better to pause and mutually discuss, resssure, clarify things and THEN resume the game.

A lot of lives and relationships have gone down the crapper in these threads, as folks cheered on the protagonists with mumbo jumbo on "parachute jumps"! It's like a Roman gladiator arena! Folks cheering on, egging on the fighters frenetically as they hack away at each other.

And yes, a spouse is FULLY answerable to the partner where sexuality is concerned, even in the LS..unless the cheating or not knowing aspect is a mutually agreed thing. It's not her career choice or girls night out we are dealing with here. It's a life changing scenario.

[Shiphead]

Sandy
Thank you for the thoughtful and welll meaning response. I and, I think Thinman's, were trying to edify their relationship. I was saying to communicate with each other and make sure they are in agreement on their plans. I also added some ideas based on my interpretation of what I was reading. There was nothing negative or me trying to force him into anything. It was all positive and suggestions to consider if I was correct in my understanding of his post.

Elina, I am surprised and disappointed in your negative response. I am usually in agreement on most of what you say but to again try to put words into my response that are not there is beneath you.
McRex I don't care about because I don't remember seeing responses by him in recent times and his response was that of an angry man who doesn't understand suggestions that don't fit his. I would say his suggestions but he doesn't have any. I also blocked him. So if I don't respond to more of his mumblings, it's because I can't see them. So rant away to your hearts content McRex.

[naivecuck2]

The first time extramarital penetration sex with Joe, could immediately become addictive for your wife. After her 1st 5:00 PM Friday to 5:00 AM Saturday date my ex was fucking her former HS boyfriend Monday thru Friday, 3-4 times per day, while I was at work and our two daughters were in school. I naively gave her a "hall pass" before the movie to go out with this recently divorced guy that she had not seen nor talked to in 17 years. What I thought would be "one and done" turned out to be two years of cuckold angst, jealousy and humiliation. Lying to our young daughters as to where mom was going with her girlfriends, for over the weekend trysts, was very unpleasant at the time and remembering now many years later still haunts me. So, be careful what you wish for!

[Shiphead]

Naivecuck2,
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Some people like your wife choose to cheat instead of communicate. She most likely knew your expectations and needs but didn't care about your feeling or your relationship. Having had a cheating wife myself, I can empathize with your feeling of anger and humiliation. It's hard to understand how someone we care about could hurt us without the slightest care.
I hope you never have to go thru anything similar again.May your future experiences in the LS be with someone who takes your feelings and relationship as their priority.

[stevens4fun]

Few things will open up discussion with one's wife more than a nice glass of wine on a nice summer afternoon - ideally relaxing nude in bed with her, talking sexual escapades and fantasy. I found that after a second "nice glass of wine" my wife was telling me stuff beyond my wildest dreams (a DP story, a condom removal story and a large penis preference story). I have no hesitation in saying this is how my wife and I discussed sex before we decided to marry and as I developed a raging erection we had our first agreement that we'd like for her to enjoy other partners from time to time. Or to continue enjoying a current BF after we married. Both of us took a risk in putting these desires on the table. I kept that empty bottle of wine and we display it in our China cabinet. We just smile knowingly when guests notice it.

Well Joe has been texting my wife for some time. Once a week or so she will exchange messages in real time with him. The rest she answers a day or two later.

He called her a while back later in the evening, saying he had a dental related question. In general he is flirty with her and persistent in asking her out regularly.

She is also enjoying the attention quite a bit, having confessed to me after a tall glass of wine at one point that he really gets her going, which of course I already knew.

[aztd]

Follo

[aztd]

Follo

[Ak6398]

Updates please!!

[Shiphead]

Tacoma75,
Could you please update us a little? Every addition to a great post like yours is one more lesson in what works and what doesn't. We all learn about the risk and rewards of this lifestyle.
Your post has been one of my favorites to read. It is well written and exciting. Thank you for allowing us along on your journey.
But please don't leave us hanging. We are all pulling for you to have a great time and that it makes Betsy and your relationship stronger and stronger. It's been over a week since we heard from you which raises my concerns about you and Betsy. I want you to have an amazing journey in the LS and just want to know how it turned out.
Best wishes to you both.

[isinlarsa]

It's been more than a week since she was going out on Friday night, and we've heard nothing from Tacoma since. I'm overwhelmed with curiosity but a bit concerned, too.

[venus-can99]

Tacoma - just caught up on the latest developments. Wondering how Betsy’s date went and how you are handling this….

[whosbeensleeping]

No pressure. Looking forward to hearing the latest when you are ready. It has been quite vicariously exciting to follow things so far.

[Bsod83]

I am also very interested to hear how things have developed...

[LawyerWouldbeCuckold]

I'm just reading this thread for the first time; and, given that I'm not in a relationship right now, and have never been married, perhaps I don't know what I'm talking about, BUT.......

FWIW, I think Tacoma needs to have a candid, lay-your-cards-on-the-table talk with his wife, about what he is thinking and feeling. And ask her what SHE is thinking and feeling. Sometimes the fantasy is better than the reality. At the same time, sometimes it is possible (as a number of posters have stated) to have BOTH a happy and fulfilling marriage, and NOT have monogamy in the marriage.

But before anything REALLY jumps off (I'm talking about PIV sex between Tacoma's Wife and the guy pursuing her) I think Tacoma and his wife need to sit down and lay it all out on the table.

FWIW....

[Dream Weaver]

Way back in the day, when the time came, after years of wanting this, when things really got rolling (started off with kiss date and petting.... or so she claims)... then the real thing after she cleared it with me, my level of angst and nervousness was off the charts. I lost 20 lbs (down to 155, I'm not huge or anything) in just a few weeks. I couldn't even eat half a 6 inch subway sandwich without being full. It was crazy. At a certain point when it was finally done I did tell my wife that maybe in the future she should simply tell me after, because I was genuinely sick of the stress.

No regrets, but Tacoma might be going through all of this and not in the mood to talk about it. I hope it's just that.

[isinlarsa]

Way back in the day, when the time came, after years of wanting this, when things really got rolling (started off with kiss date and petting.... or so she claims)... then the real thing after she cleared it with me, my level of angst and nervousness was off the charts. I lost 20 lbs (down to 155, I'm not huge or anything) in just a few weeks. I couldn't even eat half a 6 inch subway sandwich without being full. It was crazy. At a certain point when it was finally done I did tell my wife that maybe in the future she should simply tell me after, because I was genuinely sick of the stress.

No regrets, but Tacoma might be going through all of this and not in the mood to talk about it. I hope it's just that.

Did you ever adjust; or does she just tell you afterwards?

[Dream Weaver]

Way back in the day, when the time came, after years of wanting this, when things really got rolling (started off with kiss date and petting.... or so she claims)... then the real thing after she cleared it with me, my level of angst and nervousness was off the charts. I lost 20 lbs (down to 155, I'm not huge or anything) in just a few weeks. I couldn't even eat half a 6 inch subway sandwich without being full. It was crazy. At a certain point when it was finally done I did tell my wife that maybe in the future she should simply tell me after, because I was genuinely sick of the stress.

No regrets, but Tacoma might be going through all of this and not in the mood to talk about it. I hope it's just that.

Did you ever adjust; or does she just tell you afterwards?

Even worse.... she never did it again! It was truly a one time type thing. It wasn't quite as abrupt as maybe I imply, but they never did IT again. A friend of ours seduced and romanced her. She knew my fantasies for over a decade, but he was the one and only person who "did it right". For a bunch of reasons it couldn't continue without messing up all our lives. He's still a good friend to this day (the event was in 2008).

[isinlarsa]

Way back in the day, when the time came, after years of wanting this, when things really got rolling (started off with kiss date and petting.... or so she claims)... then the real thing after she cleared it with me, my level of angst and nervousness was off the charts. I lost 20 lbs (down to 155, I'm not huge or anything) in just a few weeks. I couldn't even eat half a 6 inch subway sandwich without being full. It was crazy. At a certain point when it was finally done I did tell my wife that maybe in the future she should simply tell me after, because I was genuinely sick of the stress.

No regrets, but Tacoma might be going through all of this and not in the mood to talk about it. I hope it's just that.

Did you ever adjust; or does she just tell you afterwards?

Even worse.... she never did it again! It was truly a one time type thing. It wasn't quite as abrupt as maybe I imply, but they never did IT again. A friend of ours seduced and romanced her. She knew my fantasies for over a decade, but he was the one and only person who "did it right". For a bunch of reasons it couldn't continue without messing up all our lives. He's still a good friend to this day (the event was in 2008).

Since you asked her to tell her afterwards, is it possible she continued with your friend, and they are just shielding you from the stress you feel from having a hotwife?

[Shiphead]

Tacoma, please come back and tell us how it went. We all hope it went great and cemented your relationship with Betsy.
If it went badly, don't be embarrassed. It happens sometimes. That is this LS. But please let us know the outcome. It is a learning experience for us all. No matter if it's good or not. Nothing to be embarrassed about. You tried it and sometimes fantasy and reality don't match. If you would feel better, you can always DM me and we can talk. I've had both experiences with the lifestyle. A cheating ex would didn't need to cheat. It ended our marriage. I had a wife who knew just how to live the LS as well. We talked about everything and she wanted me involved in every aspect. I couldn't have felt more loved. The extra man was a stranger I checked out and was just a dildo that breathed. He didn't care. It was a NSA meeting. She is/ was a great fuck and so was he. He was lucky he was chosen to fuck her. He had the time of his life. So did both she and I. So my DM is available if you want to talk.

[patw3268]

Agree with other commenters. This story died at the pinnacle. Please keep us updated.