Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water
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Update perhaps today or tomorrow.
But nothing barnstorming.
But nothing barnstorming.
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SFslenderfish wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:35 pmUpdate perhaps today or tomorrow.
But nothing barnstorming.
- I think I speak for many who are looking forward to anything you have to post.
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I think we're back to "Her plan to dip her in the monogamous water"
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We've been happy and healthy. Continuing our sessions with the therapist; the subject matter with her has trended away from sex and into more traditional therapy stuff like communication skills, etc. During the session this week, I took the initiative and reminded SW and the therapist that we embarked with this effort to get our hands around the sex stuff, and I'd like to get back to that.
Also back to our summer travel cycles. Did Mallorca, Spain in June. Cycling trip up the coast north of Barcelona, Spain in late September, with an add-on week with friends in the Pugila, Italy area. Returned home just over two weeks ago.
My daughter from my first marriage delivered my first grandchild and SW has taken interest in the infant, given that SW and I never did have any children. We've essentially been waiting for this opportunity. This daughter lives about 35 minutes away from us, by car, and so SW is providing daycare at least two days each week. SW is about 10 years younger than me, and I got married (the first marriage) on the young side. So I'm a youthful granddad and SW is a hot-GILF (step-GILF).
As a consequence of the GILFing, our life has become more structured and SW has turned her attention away from going out with friends, doing wine tasting events, etc. in favor of family, where she is now needed. She has also re-energized her efforts to make our house/home exactly how she wants it, with some new furniture items, rugs, lighting fixtures, etc. And planning for the next remodel effort, on the master bedroom.
We have also turned away from the group of friends (former friends) who are attached to the "mean girls"' including some of my long-time guy friends. I've essentially withdrawn myself from the long-standing Wednesday night boys' group which I started about 20 years ago.
My work effort has continued to be extra heavy, so much that I don't really even have time to travel for business. I've only traveled to Texas once this year, and I did have some business in Europe during this more recent trip. But that's all so far. The work is at the same time very rewarding (in a non-financial way). The financial reward may yet come, but we are able to live just fine with the present arrangement.
SW has also resumed her dedicated workout schedule; private sessions twice a week on top of cycle class ("spin") twice a week, and yoga once a week. She gave up Mr. G as her personal trainer and is now working with a tall, athletic woman in that role.
Back to friends. We have oriented ourselves to expanding our social group closer to where we live. I was able make some new friends here, and SW became fast friends with the wife/wives. We are taking it slow, but of course SW is easy for everyone to like. Her recent shenanigans include going up and sexy dancing on the stage at a cover-band dance event with this new group of friends, and serving as wing woman on some recent outings with these new girls/wives.
Also back to our summer travel cycles. Did Mallorca, Spain in June. Cycling trip up the coast north of Barcelona, Spain in late September, with an add-on week with friends in the Pugila, Italy area. Returned home just over two weeks ago.
My daughter from my first marriage delivered my first grandchild and SW has taken interest in the infant, given that SW and I never did have any children. We've essentially been waiting for this opportunity. This daughter lives about 35 minutes away from us, by car, and so SW is providing daycare at least two days each week. SW is about 10 years younger than me, and I got married (the first marriage) on the young side. So I'm a youthful granddad and SW is a hot-GILF (step-GILF).
As a consequence of the GILFing, our life has become more structured and SW has turned her attention away from going out with friends, doing wine tasting events, etc. in favor of family, where she is now needed. She has also re-energized her efforts to make our house/home exactly how she wants it, with some new furniture items, rugs, lighting fixtures, etc. And planning for the next remodel effort, on the master bedroom.
We have also turned away from the group of friends (former friends) who are attached to the "mean girls"' including some of my long-time guy friends. I've essentially withdrawn myself from the long-standing Wednesday night boys' group which I started about 20 years ago.
My work effort has continued to be extra heavy, so much that I don't really even have time to travel for business. I've only traveled to Texas once this year, and I did have some business in Europe during this more recent trip. But that's all so far. The work is at the same time very rewarding (in a non-financial way). The financial reward may yet come, but we are able to live just fine with the present arrangement.
SW has also resumed her dedicated workout schedule; private sessions twice a week on top of cycle class ("spin") twice a week, and yoga once a week. She gave up Mr. G as her personal trainer and is now working with a tall, athletic woman in that role.
Back to friends. We have oriented ourselves to expanding our social group closer to where we live. I was able make some new friends here, and SW became fast friends with the wife/wives. We are taking it slow, but of course SW is easy for everyone to like. Her recent shenanigans include going up and sexy dancing on the stage at a cover-band dance event with this new group of friends, and serving as wing woman on some recent outings with these new girls/wives.
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Thanks for the update, sounds like life is progressing well and you’re enjoying quality time together. Shame that Mr G is out of the picture but as long as SW is happy and healthy
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It’s a shame you had to let go of long standing friendships. Hopefully the new ones will be a fit.
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Best story teller in town. Thanks for all your updates.
Hotwife life doesn’t seem in the cards. Oh well your life is almost perfect.
When I’m on my death bed in the next 30-50 years my only dying request will be did your beautiful bride fuck your tall friend that night many years ago???
Thanks for the update I’ll be rooting for you from the east coast.
Hotwife life doesn’t seem in the cards. Oh well your life is almost perfect.
When I’m on my death bed in the next 30-50 years my only dying request will be did your beautiful bride fuck your tall friend that night many years ago???
Thanks for the update I’ll be rooting for you from the east coast.
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Nice post. I hope my life is not being presented as perfect or even near to it. I have a lot of energy and desire for certain accomplishments, and do try to fit it all in. At the same time, SW considers me to be too overbearing and overworked to the point of not being in touch with her, emotionally. She is probably right, in many respects. This is why our "sex-positive" licensed therapist (PhD) is now spending so much time on regular relationship stuff and we seem to never have any space or interest in the sex stuff. But it's all for the relationship, so I am not really in any position to complain.Triggershy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 2:06 pmBest story teller in town. Thanks for all your updates.
Hotwife life doesn’t seem in the cards. Oh well your life is almost perfect.
When I’m on my death bed in the next 30-50 years my only dying request will be did your beautiful bride fuck your tall friend that night many years ago???
Thanks for the update I’ll be rooting for you from the east coast.
Also common challenges in family, money, religion, politics and physical/health. My back has been acting up; I had major back surgery about 10 years ago and it's been generally fine until about three weeks ago. It's really getting in the way of me living my life. My dance hobby is impacted, my ability to enjoy normal physical effort of sex also bothered, and I haven't been able to ride my bike since the end of September.
But I do try to keep a positive attitude. Life is full, we have plenty of friends and no problems making new friends. Family continues to grow and enhance our lives. SW finally has an infant to care for and to express that special type of love. Business very challenging and yet still rewarding in the midst of the difficulties.
And I do fully believe she did fuck Mr. B. Everything points to it, evidences it. SW's denials remain, so that's just how it's going to be. Perhaps one day I will ask Mr. B. SW has pretty much moved us away from him, out of our lives now. I never did any real business with him; it seemed to lose all momentum after that overnight with SW. I like him in any case, and actually have a bit of admiration for him that he was able to bed SW.
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Thank you for such a real response. You are so introspective just a real person in today’s society that is very uncommon.
As always thanks for taking the time to share your story with us and your beautiful Hotwife.
As always thanks for taking the time to share your story with us and your beautiful Hotwife.
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I bought a recumbent (Cruzbike) a few years ago because of back pain when riding. It has really been a lot of fun. It was kind of like learning to ride all over again, because the balance is just different; I enjoyed the challenge.slenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:59 pmMy back has been acting up; I had major back surgery about 10 years ago and it's been generally fine until about three weeks ago. It's really getting in the way of me living my life. My dance hobby is impacted, my ability to enjoy normal physical effort of sex also bothered, and I haven't been able to ride my bike since the end of September.
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SF - relationship with SW is important so I hope everything is going well. Hopefully your back issues get better soon.
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Odd how couples therapy always seems to focus on the female needs. Where is the equality in that transaction? I guess the same place as custody hearings and alimony payments.slenderfish wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:59 pm
Nice post. I hope my life is not being presented as perfect or even near to it. I have a lot of energy and desire for certain accomplishments, and do try to fit it all in. At the same time, SW considers me to be too overbearing and overworked to the point of not being in touch with her, emotionally. She is probably right, in many respects. This is why our "sex-positive" licensed therapist (PhD) is now spending so much time on regular relationship stuff and we seem to never have any space or interest in the sex stuff. But it's all for the relationship, so I am not really in any position to complain.
Also common challenges in family, money, religion, politics and physical/health. My back has been acting up; I had major back surgery about 10 years ago and it's been generally fine until about three weeks ago. It's really getting in the way of me living my life. My dance hobby is impacted, my ability to enjoy normal physical effort of sex also bothered, and I haven't been able to ride my bike since the end of September.
But I do try to keep a positive attitude. Life is full, we have plenty of friends and no problems making new friends. Family continues to grow and enhance our lives. SW finally has an infant to care for and to express that special type of love. Business very challenging and yet still rewarding in the midst of the difficulties.
And I do fully believe she did fuck Mr. B. Everything points to it, evidences it. SW's denials remain, so that's just how it's going to be. Perhaps one day I will ask Mr. B. SW has pretty much moved us away from him, out of our lives now. I never did any real business with him; it seemed to lose all momentum after that overnight with SW. I like him in any case, and actually have a bit of admiration for him that he was able to bed SW.
The evidence is strong on the Mr B adventure. Even if you asked him he would lie. You can only hope someday she may fess up but it would be years down the road. I stand by maybe they didn't outright F, but something happened... maybe just making out and groping but something.
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Mr B may actually tell me. It's not out the question, in my mind. He and SW had some ongoing conversation about how he and his (now ex-) wife were in a "monogamish" relationship. SW was a bit intrigued and discussed it with me at some length. It was after all this that she became more obviously enamored with him and started acting like it, which then culminated as you know.afagehi7 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 2:58 amThe evidence is strong on the Mr B adventure. Even if you asked him he would lie. You can only hope someday she may fess up but it would be years down the road. I stand by maybe they didn't outright F, but something happened... maybe just making out and groping but something.
I'll also point out that Mr. B has dropped hints. 1) When I gave him (and Ms. R) the hotel room that SW and I were going to use on July 4 of 2021, he thanked me as I handed him the key and, in front of Ms. R. said that perhaps we could have "shared" the hotel room (both couples); and 2) I showed him the video clips of SW at the party where she was dancing and showing her ass to me (the party where she jumped in the pool at the end), and he said that he'd love to get on that.
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Assuming true, how do you think the dynamic between you three would change if that became an open, acknowledged fact?
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SW has essentially eliminated Mr. B from our lives (not in an active way, but really she just passively made sure we stopped crossing paths with him). I believe it's because of her indiscretion, just another element of evidence. She acts like it's no big deal, but the last two times we had firm plans to go to dinner with him and his date (at the time, Ms. R), SW cancelled last minute and left me attending alone or having to arrange for a stand-in for her. So I finally got the hint.
If I had any reason to run into him, or be in the same place/same time as just guys, it'd be no big deal. I'd likely keep my eyes and ears open for an opportunity to ask the question, but I suppose that's all just conjecture right now.
I believe if he confirmed it, there would be another big conflagration with SW (assuming I elected to share this new knowledge). She would not be happy that I'd continued to keep energy around this. She seems to be working on the "out of sight, out of mind" approach.
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It sure seems like SW is trying to close the book on Mr. B. Her avoiding any chance of seeing him leads me to believe that she doesn't want to risk ANY interaction that could compound the already suspected implication of her actions. Her choice to let the issue die of starvation does seem to imply that she made a mistake or was wrong. Otherwise, how would she explain herself? They were obviously very friendly at one point, right?
You said if Mr. B confirmed it there would be another big conflagration if you chose to share it with her. What do anticipate her reaction to be if you did choose to tell her what you found out from Mr. B?
You said if Mr. B confirmed it there would be another big conflagration if you chose to share it with her. What do anticipate her reaction to be if you did choose to tell her what you found out from Mr. B?
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Let's remember that I'd been building off the "monogamish" conversation she told me that she'd had with Mr. B and encouraged her (directly or subtly) to engage with him in a flirtations and, should she desire, sexual manner. She consistently shot that down. So that's the backdrop.coastalkid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:08 amIt sure seems like SW is trying to close the book on Mr. B. Her avoiding any chance of seeing him leads me to believe that she doesn't want to risk ANY interaction that could compound the already suspected implication of her actions. Her choice to let the issue die of starvation does seem to imply that she made a mistake or was wrong. Otherwise, how would she explain herself? They were obviously very friendly at one point, right?
You said if Mr. B confirmed it there would be another big conflagration if you chose to share it with her. What do anticipate her reaction to be if you did choose to tell her what you found out from Mr. B?
They used to text and essentially she "drove" the relationship with him until there was a random business crossover that drove my direct contact with him. So we had two different lanes with him, and they didn't really cross. That's why it was not out of the question for her to invite him over to that girls' party that ended up with the overnight visit. Her girlfriends all knew that Mr B. was primarily friends with SW.
The night they ended up alone in our temporary extra apartment, we were out to drinks after a wine event and SW invited him to drive an hour to join us for dinner at a fancy restaurant across the street from the hotel bar where we were sitting. He readily agreed, drove up, and we then went across the street to the restaurant. SW walked ahead of me and instead was walking side by side with Mr. B and acting very giddy and flirtatious. We were with at least four other people in our dinner group. After the dinner, I drove one of the girlfriends to her house (designated driver) while SW rode with Mr. B to the apartment. Just one illustration.
As for the conflagration, remember she has consistently been denying and obfuscating. The classic behavior of someone who was caught red-handed but trying to limit damage, and not knowing what the other person (me) actually knows. So I expect it to continue, just another chapter of the same, should I elect to start another chapter.
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Chapter One:
Why SW and I are going our separate ways.
A. Tired of hurting each other.
B. Trying to change her was the wrong approach.
C. We still love each other, but...
Why SW and I are going our separate ways.
A. Tired of hurting each other.
B. Trying to change her was the wrong approach.
C. We still love each other, but...
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She is just very proud and has taken this position that she did not do anything with Mr. B. I personally find it entertaining and have accepted her version, as far as she knows, so that's why no change anticipated.
She did "make amends" in her own way, by dipping her toe into hotwife water beginning immediately after the Mr. B incident. I believe that's her position. She went out and tried it, with Mr. S and with Mr. M.
We've been married 16 years and initially started dating in 2001. I'm pretty sure we will remain together.
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Like many sexy women, Pinky is a walking, talking, beautiful bundle of secrets and contradictions. Reminds me of my wife. Wouldn't have it any other way, though I do love when she reveals her secrets.
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Let me start by clearly stating that all that follows this is just one person’s opinion and that I am no expert on women or relationships, so please do not take any offense by what I say as I am not trying to offend anyone.
SF,
What ever happened between Mr.B and your wife is immaterial at this point. It appears to be a one off situation. Only two people know what happened and in reality it would pretty hard to believe either person’s version of the night in question. Whether it was great for both or just one or bad for both, only those two know. But bottom line it appears to only be once. Did your wife do the other gentleman in guilt or to just try again to enjoy being a “hot wife” once again only she knows the reason. But it appears she didn’t get anything out of those encounters that gave her real enjoyment or satisfaction she may have been looking for at the time.
Plus look at the turnover of your social life. I personally have found that many people both men and women still act like teenagers at best at times. Your wife is very attractive, you two travel around the world at times. I am not saying you’re rich or bad or anything like that, but what you two have and share can cause jealousy in others. At times it may appear that your wife needs to be the center of attention by socializing with others outside of your group when out and about, drinking or dinner out or some other event. Which can cause other people in your group to have issues with her actions.
I am sure most any man around your wife would notice her even dressed down for grocery shopping. She is that attractive. But, everyone man or woman still notices their personal appearance flaws. Which is why so many people never truly feel comfortable with their own appearance. Which can drive some people to seek validation about themselves.
I think your in a great situation, you have a challenging career, a lovely wife who by all accounts appears to love you, a strong family that loves and supports you.
So what if one of your sexual fantasies never gets off the ground fully. At the end of the day go home and watch the sun set snuggled up to your wife and enjoy life.
I hope your back gets better soon and your work load gets lighter.
Thank you for sharing all that you have so far. I hope to be reading about your life and travels more in the future.
SF,
What ever happened between Mr.B and your wife is immaterial at this point. It appears to be a one off situation. Only two people know what happened and in reality it would pretty hard to believe either person’s version of the night in question. Whether it was great for both or just one or bad for both, only those two know. But bottom line it appears to only be once. Did your wife do the other gentleman in guilt or to just try again to enjoy being a “hot wife” once again only she knows the reason. But it appears she didn’t get anything out of those encounters that gave her real enjoyment or satisfaction she may have been looking for at the time.
Plus look at the turnover of your social life. I personally have found that many people both men and women still act like teenagers at best at times. Your wife is very attractive, you two travel around the world at times. I am not saying you’re rich or bad or anything like that, but what you two have and share can cause jealousy in others. At times it may appear that your wife needs to be the center of attention by socializing with others outside of your group when out and about, drinking or dinner out or some other event. Which can cause other people in your group to have issues with her actions.
I am sure most any man around your wife would notice her even dressed down for grocery shopping. She is that attractive. But, everyone man or woman still notices their personal appearance flaws. Which is why so many people never truly feel comfortable with their own appearance. Which can drive some people to seek validation about themselves.
I think your in a great situation, you have a challenging career, a lovely wife who by all accounts appears to love you, a strong family that loves and supports you.
So what if one of your sexual fantasies never gets off the ground fully. At the end of the day go home and watch the sun set snuggled up to your wife and enjoy life.
I hope your back gets better soon and your work load gets lighter.
Thank you for sharing all that you have so far. I hope to be reading about your life and travels more in the future.
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You pretty much nailed it.Roadtripking wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:14 amLet me start by clearly stating that all that follows this is just one person’s opinion and that I am no expert on women or relationships, so please do not take any offense by what I say as I am not trying to offend anyone.
SF,
What ever happened between Mr.B and your wife is immaterial at this point. It appears to be a one off situation. Only two people know what happened and in reality it would pretty hard to believe either person’s version of the night in question. Whether it was great for both or just one or bad for both, only those two know. But bottom line it appears to only be once. Did your wife do the other gentleman in guilt or to just try again to enjoy being a “hot wife” once again only she knows the reason. But it appears she didn’t get anything out of those encounters that gave her real enjoyment or satisfaction she may have been looking for at the time.
Plus look at the turnover of your social life. I personally have found that many people both men and women still act like teenagers at best at times. Your wife is very attractive, you two travel around the world at times. I am not saying you’re rich or bad or anything like that, but what you two have and share can cause jealousy in others. At times it may appear that your wife needs to be the center of attention by socializing with others outside of your group when out and about, drinking or dinner out or some other event. Which can cause other people in your group to have issues with her actions.
I am sure most any man around your wife would notice her even dressed down for grocery shopping. She is that attractive. But, everyone man or woman still notices their personal appearance flaws. Which is why so many people never truly feel comfortable with their own appearance. Which can drive some people to seek validation about themselves.
I think your in a great situation, you have a challenging career, a lovely wife who by all accounts appears to love you, a strong family that loves and supports you.
So what if one of your sexual fantasies never gets off the ground fully. At the end of the day go home and watch the sun set snuggled up to your wife and enjoy life.
I hope your back gets better soon and your work load gets lighter.
Thank you for sharing all that you have so far. I hope to be reading about your life and travels more in the future.
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I was inspired by Angela Plays to reflect on an experience of my own, long before I met SW, that was really my first exposure into the hotwife lifestyle. I don't think I've mentioned it here before. The inspiration was my position that I'm not interested in participating with another wife, as the proverbial "bull" but rather I'm the hotwife husband, the "Stag" as some call it.
But my first experience was of a Bull, now that I think back on it. I was such a newbie, just having stumbled onto this couple, that I had no idea what I was doing or what I was supposed to be or become, to that couple.
Shall I tell of the true story, even though this is not about SW?
But my first experience was of a Bull, now that I think back on it. I was such a newbie, just having stumbled onto this couple, that I had no idea what I was doing or what I was supposed to be or become, to that couple.
Shall I tell of the true story, even though this is not about SW?
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Of course.
I think if I had not met leggysandy when I did, I was kind of drifting into being a third. I'd seen and responded to couples' dating profiles, but nothing came of it.
I think if I had not met leggysandy when I did, I was kind of drifting into being a third. I'd seen and responded to couples' dating profiles, but nothing came of it.
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SFslenderfish wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 2:22 pmI was inspired by Angela Plays to reflect on an experience of my own, long before I met SW, that was really my first exposure into the hotwife lifestyle. I don't think I've mentioned it here before. The inspiration was my position that I'm not interested in participating with another wife, as the proverbial "bull" but rather I'm the hotwife husband, the "Stag" as some call it.
But my first experience was of a Bull, now that I think back on it. I was such a newbie, just having stumbled onto this couple, that I had no idea what I was doing or what I was supposed to be or become, to that couple.
Shall I tell of the true story, even though this is not about SW?
- Without hesitation and full descriptive narrative!!
- Great disappointment will be had if you choose not too.