Wife on a date tonight!

[Freemans892]

Could this potentially cause Ann problems at her job? If Ann feels she needs to explain maybe a combination of both kid's response: "It's really none of your business, but we're in a completely open and honest relationship that we are ALL happy and comfortable with. End of discussion." If she is genuinely curious and not condemning, Ann could choose to fill her in as much as she feels comfortable with.

Hi,
If Maree told other staff, professionally Ann is ok as it would appear to be be merely an affair. It would be a whispered bit of gossip but nothing to do with her department.

If, however, the whole truth of our lifestyle came out and became known and spread around it would only take someone to report her to the department for them to react. At the very least she may be transferred to another school and counselled on behaviour unbecoming to a teacher to possibly being sacked and struck of the teachers' register for behaviour not appropriate to being in contact for children.

This would be a completely bullshit move as Ann is the most professional, dedicated, passionate teacher a parent could ever want to teach their child. She has turned down the promotion pathway a number of times as she believes it would impact negatively on her ability to be the best teacher she can be. She is constantly learning in her own time and has completed her Masters of Education. She mentors beginning teachers at her school.

We have known for her whole career how narrow minded people can be and so have hidden our nudism, swinging and hotwifing. We have been at swingers clubs and seen parents from her school arrive and we have quickly dressed and left rather than be seen. Once at a swingers' club we actually met a teacher from a school in Ann's area and the conversation was about "Imagine if our schools found out?"

We have decided that Ann will call Maree and see if she can meet Ann for lunch. She lives about 30 minutes from us. Ann is going to tell her what we believe she needs to satisfy her curiosity.
Basically, Ann is going to tell Maree that she is dating James with my knowledge and permission. She is going to say that she met him at the gym and has been seeing him for about 6 months. Ann is going to tell Maree that after 26 years of marriage things have got stale and while we love each other the excitement has died.
Ann is going to tell Maree that I know James and get on well with him. While a lot of this is not true it sounds believable and hopefully something she can relate to.

Ann will not mention our nudism, swinging, her bisexuality, hotwifing, gang bangs or even James actually living with us as her second husband.

A problem will be Ann's decision to use a hyphenated surname at work this year (which I support and am turned on about). Ann has emailed her principal and told her that she will now be using the name professionally of Mrs Ann @@@@@ - ###### (which is James's surname and then mine).
Ann told her principal that has a sign of respect and a gift for her parents 50th wedding anniversary she would be using her maiden name hyphenated with her married name. Ann's principal was happy for her to do this.

We worry though will Maree see through this excuse? Will she suspect more about our lifestyle?
One thing we agreed on last night was we will not be changing our lifestyle. We are nudists. We are swingers. We love Ann being a hotwife. We love being in a threeway marriage with James.

This is Australia we are talking about, the Australian Fair Work Act is very tight on what an employer can do. An Australian employer is not able to react to what an employee does to in their personal life. Look at what happen with the Rugby Australia and Israel Folau scandal, the organisation realised they severely “fucked up” with an unfair dismissal, the organisation were going to lose the court case and thus reach a settlement, the CEO resigned and moved another country to continue their career. Ann will be safe with her job.

Just to be sure, both you and Ann should read the Fair Work Act because no principal or department head will tread into a possible minefield if you show that you know the law better they do because they will be concerned that their is job on the line, not Ann’s.

Thanks for the advice, Freemans. Ann's problem is that her department of education has a staff code of conduct which they can use to discipline or dismiss staff. They could say that she has brought the department into disrepute. If this stays inhouse then nothing would happen. If parents gossiped then there is trouble.

It doesn’t matter, the “staff code of conduct” has to comply with the Fair Work Act, if not, the employer can be sued. Israel Folau broke Rugby Australia’s inclusion policy twice but it was Rugby Australia who broke the law and had to pay out a multi-million settlement and their image was severely damaged. Raelene Castle (Rugby Australia’s CEO) image was so badly damaged that it was a case of either resign or be fired. Raelene resigned and moved to NZ. I doubt Raelene will ever work in Australia again.

This whole event in 2019 was a huge wake up call for CEOs and Australian employers, in that can no longer dedicate what an employee can and can’t do in their private life and their personal opinions expressed outside of work.

As for Ann, check the Fair Work Act then the relevant NSW Government legislations that apply to Ann’s role and then finally her professional and ethical standards. I’m 100% sure Ann has done nothing wrong. Also remember that the NSW Education department has a whole section on its LGBTQIA+ workplace inclusion policy.

[Johnann2227]

Freemans thank you for this great advice. At least we know that we can't be bullied or bluffed into resigning. Much appreciated!

[Freemans892]

Any special or additional parties for the Australia Day long weekend?

[Cornudo1960]

Freeman. An employer can do whatever they want as long as it is not made public and generally can wipe their arse with the fair work act as they please. So if someone high up in an organisation doesn't like you they'll get rid of you using other excuses of which there are many to choose from, how do I know this? I am an employer in OZ.

[Freemans892]

We are most likely about a NSW Government department here, so no, employers can’t do what they want. The problem is if things pear shaped, the CEO will end up having to resign. Unless it’s an independent school, the school principal doesn’t have the power to fire a staff member.

[Johnann2227]

We are most likely about a NSW Government department here, so no, employers can’t do what they want. The problem is if things pear shaped, the CEO will end up having to resign. Unless it’s an independent school, the school principal doesn’t have the power to fire a staff member.

It is a NSW school. No the principal cannot fire on their own.

[Johnann2227]

Any special or additional parties for the Australia Day long weekend?

We are going to friends from our swinger group for an Australia Day party tomorrow. Like us, Al and Michelle have a private yard and pool area so a nude pool party is planned. There is a chance of rain in the morning so I hope that goes by midday when the party starts. With the six couples in our group plus Wendy and Scott, James, Tracey and some of the boyfriends of the other wives we should have 20 people at the party.

As we are partying tomorrow there won't be our usual Saturday night party tonight. Ann, James and I will probably have a relaxing soak in the hottub after dinner before heading off to bed.

[54321]

How did the lunch meet with Maree go?

54321

[Johnann2227]

How did the lunch meet with Maree go?

54321

Everything with Maree worked out fine. When Ann arrived at the cafe Maree was already waiting at a table. Ann said she felt nervous walking over but when Maree stood and greeted her with a hug, she thought everything would be ok.

Maree said before anything was said that if this lunch was about her seeing Ann and James together then there is no need. Whatever Ann does in her private life is none of Maree's business and her secret will remain secret.

Ann said that she was so relieved that she leant across and hugged me and said thank you. Ann did say to Maree that she did want to explain circumstances though. After ordering lunch and coffees Ann told Maree that James is her boyfriend and she has been seeing him for about 6 months with my knowledge and permission. Ann said that our marriage was still strong but needed a boost of excitement so we had agreed to open our marriage.

Maree just listened and then said "Wow! Lucky girl!" She asked if James and I had met, if we got on, and the quietly if we had threesomes. Ann answered yes to all of her questions. Maree laughed and shook her head. She then said, "So you guys are swingers?" Ann told her that we were.

Maree then told Ann how lucky she was. She said that her husband and her were in marriage counselling because she had an affair with one of their neighbours. She said it wasn't about not loving her husband she just wanted some excitement. Ann said they talked about that for a while while they ate.

Maree eventually brightened the mood by saying, c So where on earth did you meet a hunk like James, you lucky bitch. He is hot! How old is he? Tell me all".
Ann told her he was turning 33, they met in a bar and then giggling how "big" he was. She said her and Maree were giggling like schoolgirls.
Eventually they finished and walked back to their cars. They finished with a hug and Maree reconfirmed that she is good with everything and was actually a bit jealous.

Ann came home to find James and I enjoying a beer and tanning around the pool. She was so excited that everything was good and stripped and joined us on a sunlounge.

[pixmangurn]

Johnann, that's wonderful news! I'm so glad things worked out for Ann. Perhaps she'll soon be mentoring a new hotwife in Maree if hubby is agreeable or they could go the swinger route ?!?!?

[Johnann2227]

Johnann, that's wonderful news! I'm so glad things worked out for Ann. Perhaps she'll soon be mentoring a new hotwife in Maree if hubby is agreeable or they could go the swinger route ?!?!?

Hi Pix,
I jokingly said that to Ann but she said Maree's husband would definitely not stand for that hotwifing or swinging. Maree told her that he even flipped when he found out she had a vibrator. Go figure!

Ann will just have to be satisfied being Wendy's lifestyle mentor lol.

[pixmangurn]

Oh well, I guess you can't can't recruit everyone into the "hotwife army", but it's fun trying, lol!

[pixmangurn]

Oh well, I guess you can't recruit everyone into the "hotwife army", but it's fun trying, lol!

[Johnann2227]

Oh well, I guess you can't recruit everyone into the "hotwife army", but it's fun trying, lol!

Agreed! Seeing how far Wendy and Scott have come with our guidance is a real buzz. At our Australia Day party at Al and Michelle's, Wendy walked in, pulled her sundress over her head and was nude for the rest of the party. Such confidence about her body now. Scott just can't stop grinning and thanks me everytime we meet.

There is noone in our group that hasn't fucked Wendy now and Scott loves it. They have even gone to a hotel bar and picked up a 40 year old businessman who fucked Wendy in his room while Scott waited in the bar. Life is good in our group.

[Freemans892]

Clearly Maree isn’t going to be a problem. By the sounds of it, Maree would get excitement from hearing about Ann’s sexual exploits with James and yourself. It seems that Maree is more adventurous than her husband. Plus, having had a previous affair with her neighbour, Maree will definitely keep her mouth shut. I hope that Ann mention that you have a part-time girlfriend (Tracey) yourself, indicating that you get to have your own fun as well?

I assuming that Tracey youngest son has now completed his HSC, so I wondering if Tracey is able to play more often with you guys now? I get the feeling that Tracey is a cross between a Friends With Benefits and Girlfriend with you, a unicorn for Al and Belinda, a Friends With Benefits with the rest of your swinger ground. Is this assumption correct?

I wonder how many women Ann and James will recruit into the “hotwife army” in 2025? Technically speaking, you would classified Tracey as a “hot girlfriend”. I’m sure there a number of married women or divorced women (like Tracey) out there in Sydney looking for some fun in a safe group.

[Johnann2227]

Clearly Maree isn’t going to be a problem. By the sounds of it, Maree would get excitement from hearing about Ann’s sexual exploits with James and yourself. It seems that Maree is more adventurous than her husband. Plus, having had a previous affair with her neighbour, Maree will definitely keep her mouth shut. I hope that Ann mention that you have a part-time girlfriend (Tracey) yourself, indicating that you get to have your own fun as well?

I assuming that Tracey youngest son has now completed his HSC, so I wondering if Tracey is able to play more often with you guys now? I get the feeling that Tracey is a cross between a Friends With Benefits and Girlfriend with you, a unicorn for Al and Belinda, a Friends With Benefits with the rest of your swinger ground. Is this assumption correct?

I wonder how many women Ann and James will recruit into the “hotwife army” in 2025? Technically speaking, you would classified Tracey as a “hot girlfriend”. I’m sure there a number of married women or divorced women (like Tracey) out there in Sydney looking for some fun in a safe group.

Hi,
Tracey is definitely a hot something. She is a permanent member of our swinger group now and gets all of the attention she needs. Tracey isn't after a relationship with anyone. She is happy with her life. She is financially secure. Her oldest son lives with his girlfriend. Her youngest has just joined the air force and will be studying to become a lawyer so he is moving to Canberra. Tracey just enjoys expressing her sexuality and now has the freedom to do so.

Maree was a relief. While we love our lifestyle we understand that society on the whole doesn't accept it. Our siblings and parents would be horrified. We would need to know Maree more and trust her before exposing more of our lifestyle to her. From what I hear about her husband there is no chance of them trying the lifestyle. I don't think their marriage will even last if Maree has already cheated because of boredom. It sounds like he doesn't want to try something knew to bring them any excitement. Seriously, which married couple does not own a vibrator?

[Johnann2227]

We had a great night last Friday. James has gone away for a buck's night/weekend so it was just Ann and I. We had been chatting with Wendy and Scott and decided on a fun night out.

Ann was dressed in a LBD with 4 inch heels. Her dress went to mid thigh but when she sat down it rode up to upper thigh. So in Ann's logic she went without panties so noone could see her panties.
With her anklet and blinged up jewellery contrasting with her deep tan she was turning heads.

We met Wendy and Scott at the train station (we all intended to drink and get an Uber home). Wendy looked hot! A strapless, floral mini dress matched with gold 3 inch stilletos. The dress clung to her body and she had to keep pulling her hem down as it was riding up exposing her arse. We all hugged and kissed and were excited for a fun night. When we sat in the train it became apparent that Wendy had not worn panties either. Hot!

We started with dinner at Matteo's Downtown which was delicious. Great Italian food with some gorgeous wines. Over dinner we decided that we would go to the Marble Bar in the Sydney Hilton. Good music, usually an over 30 crowd and beautiful surroundings. We also decided (after Scott's prompting) that Ann and Wendy would go in first and then 30 minutes later we would come in and watch them having fun.

We walked the girls to the bar door, kissed them and told them to have fun. They headed in and Scott and I headed around the corner to a pub to have a beer and wait out the 30 minutes. Scott was so excited. He was hoping that Wendy would at least get fingered tonight but hopefully give a blowjob.

After our beer we headed in to the Marble Bar. We headed to the bar and bought a couple of lite beers. We wanted a buzz but not get blind drunk. As we stood near the bar we casually looked around the premises trying to spot Ann and Wendy. I spotted them first and nudged Scott. The girls were sitting on one of the long cushioned benches with a couple of guys who looked late 30s.

Scott and I watched and the girls were flirting big time. Ann kept leaning into her guy and was touching his arm and shoulder while she talked. Wendy was laughing with her guy and chatting closely. Soon the girls stood up and grabbed the guys' hands and dragged them onto the dancefloor. We watched them bump and grind to the R&B music that was pumping. After a few songs the guys were being quite cheeky with their hands. Ann's partner was dancing up against her back and was squeezing her arse. She looked like she was enjoying it as she was wiggling her arse against him. Wendy was all over her partner, running her hands over his chest and leaning in close to him. I looked at Scott and he was loving it.

After a while the 4some left the dancefloor with the girls heading to the bathroom and the guys going to the bar for a round of drinks. My phone vibrated and it was a text from Ann. She asked if we were enjoying ourselves. I said yes. She said her guy was called Nick and he was 41 and Wendy was with Phil and he was 40. I just relied with, "Have fun".
Over the next hour the girls flirted with Nick and Phil and danced a few times. During their last dance Ann kissed Nick and from where we were positioned I could see tongue. Wendy was also kissing Phil who was having a sneaky grab of her boobs.

When they went back to their seats it seemed like the floodgates had opened. Ann was deep kissing Nick and he had his hand on her upper thigh. As his hand got to the hem of her dress I could clearly see Ann part her legs for him. Before long I could see Nick discretely fingering Ann while he kissed her. Scott nudged me to look at Wendy. Phil was kissing her and she was rubbing his cock through his jeans. Things were really hotting up.

The next time the girls headed to the bathroom Scott darted over and spoke with Wendy. He asked her if she wanted to fuck Phil and she said she did. He asked her if she wanted to book them a hotel room upstairs? Wendy said yes.

Scott came back and told me that the girls wanted to fuck the guys and he was going to book a room. I told him I would go halves for the cost. Scott went out to the hotel and booked a room. $750. Ouch! He came back with two room keys. When the girls went to the bathroom again we both met them there. I asked Ann if she wanted to fuck Nick and her answer was, "Oh god yes. His cock is huge and he has already fingered me to an orgasm." Scott gave them the room keys. Before I could ask Ann how she wanted this to work she said, " Wqqqqhat time is checkout? Pick us up then please." She then gave me a long, passionate kiss and went back to Nick.

Scott and I kept drinking until we saw Ann grab Nick's hand while Wendy took Phil's and they led them out of the club. We quickly followed and watched them walk into the hotel. Nick had his hand under Ann's dress and was groping her arse. It looked so hot. Scott and I watched our wives kissing their lovers while they waited for the lift. When they disappeared we left.

As the trains were running we went home that way. Scott was so excited. He was actually rubbing his hardon while he talked about what they would be doing.

The next morning I picked Scott up at 10am to go and pick our wives up. We got there about 15 minutes early and waited outside for them. At about 11.15 we saw them walk out of the hotel with Nick and Phil. The stood outside talked and then had a last passionate kiss. When they got in to the car I could instantly smell sex. Ann gave me a passionate kiss and I could taste a salty flavour in her mouth. She confirmed that she had given Nick a blow job before they checked out. HOT!

[Johnann2227]

On the way home, Ann and Wendy told us about their night. They said that when they got into the lift Nick pulled Ann's dress up and fingered her while they kissed. Wendy said that Phil pulled her dress down and sucked her boobs while he fingered her. When they got to their floor the girls walked down the hall exposed, Ann with her arse and pussy on show and Wendy with her boobs on show. When they entered the room Ann and Wendy stripped their dresses off leaving only their heels on. They then walked over to Nick and Phil and unzipped their jeans and pulled their cocks out. Ann said that Nick was at least 9 inches and thick. Even better he was cut. Wendy said Phil was a healthy 7 inches and shaved. The girls then sucked their cocks for a bit before they finished stripping the guys and climbing on the king size bed. Nick and Phil started licking their pussies while Ann reached over and played with Wendy's nipples. Soon everyone wanted to fuck and Ann and Wendy got up and pulled condoms from their purses. Ann said Nick's was a very tight fit. Once protected Ann climbed on top of Nick and rode him cowgirl. Wendy started missionary. Throughout their first session they kept changing positions and both came. During their play, Nick and Phil got game and started groping Ann and Wendy. After relaxing for a bit Ann decided she wanted to try Phil and Wendy had to try Nick's big cock.

In the morning they all fucked again and Nick left both Ann and Wendy a bit tender. They asked about their wedding rings and the girls both confirmed that they were married but had their husband's permission to play when they wanted. Ann also told them about James and they were blown away. Of course they wanted to meet up again and exchanged numbers. Scott was so excited listening to their night and had pulled his cock out and Wendy was stroking him. Scott asked if Wendy was going to see Phil again and she said, "Probably. Actually I would like to see Phil and Nick together." Scott blew his load when she said this (which Wendy quickly licked up).

We dropped them off at their house and headed home. We wanted reclaim sex and then a nap to recharge our batteries for our Saturday night party.

[iamahotwife]

Marble bat was the place where my wife got hit first time.

[iamahotwife]

Marble bar was the place where my wife got hit first time pre covid.

[Johnann2227]

Marble bar was the place where my wife got hit first time pre covid.

We love the Marble Bar. Ann has picked up there a number of times. We have met a few swinger couples there as well.

[boobman987]

I have finally caught up with your swinger and hotwife escapades and I must say it is one of the hottest threads on the site.

I am very relieved that Maree and Ann have come to a very satisfactory end to what was looking like a very nasty situation. Perhaps over time Ann might encourage Maree to try a swinger lifestyle, without Maree’s husband, when or if you attend a swingers club in Sydney? From your description Maree seemed very envious of Ann’s relationship with “her boyfriend James” and you. It sounds like she is sexually frustrated and needs relief.

I love the way that you have taken James into your family and how over a period of time he has become Ann’s second husband. Then near Christmas you gave your virginity to James, it was hot to read. I’m not bi but it took my breath away.

Are you still getting the occasional pegging from Ann?

I enjoyed the way you and Ann’s help you have turned Wendy and Scott’s sex life and outlook around. The story and progress was slow, burning and erotic.

Do any of your swingers know that you write up here on OHW?

[Johnann2227]

Hi,
Thank you for your comments. I agree that Maree is a bit envious of Ann's sex life. Sadly, I don't think her marriage will last. She cheated once because she was bored and unsatisfied and nothing seems to have changed. We would never encourage her to cheat but if they split up again we would definitely support her.

James is now a part of our family. Ann considers herself to be married to us both. She started back at school last week and has been using her new surname of Mrs @@@ - ####. She loves it! I get turned on as well as we are openly (without anyone vanilla knowing) declaring that Ann is a hotwife and daily fucks two men.

I do sometimes get pegged by Ann not not as often as pre James. James fucks me more now, probably once a fortnight. I really enjoy it now and can take his big cock comfortably.

Helping Wendy and Scott enter the lifestyle has been fun. To see the joy they are both getting makes it worthwhile. Scott regularly thanks me for opening up our world to them. He thrives on Wendy's need to be a slut and can't control himself when someone is fucking her. Scott is talking about organising a gangbang for Wendy's birthday this year just like Ann enjoys each year.

Our swinger group know that I write my experiences and feelings here and I have shown a couple of the other husbands. I find it therapeutic.

[Freemans892]

Did James have any discussion with the other guys at the buck’s night about his current personal life status? It would not surprise me if one of the other guys asked James when he was going to get married.

[boobman987]

Thanks for answering my questions so openly and honestly Johnann.

I hope tonight’s swinger event goes well and I’m looking forward to the update in the coming days.