25th Anniv. of Troilus and Cressida

[troilusand]

And...

Well I knew I was still trying to get laid and figured she was too. So one night while she was late form work, I snooped. And I found in separate purse a love letter, among other things, from a guy at her work. I was pissed! But I was HARD! I jacked off in anger thinking about her fucking this guy I'd never heard of, and calling her a slut, etc.

And I did a good job of it, too! I literally jacked it around 2 dozen times before she got home! I'd show her that if she could get it off because she was a slut, I could too!! But I had enough time to also wonder if I LIKED my wife being a slut ...my erections never went away no matter how many times I came imagining her fucking. And cheating wife Penthouse letters were always my favorites.

So when she got home I confronted her, showed her the evidence, and asked for the truth. She confessed, and I told her she was a slut and a whore and all the rest; but when I asked her if she loved him, I was FLOORED when she said, "Yes."

Well of course she was STILL a slut who couldn't help but spread her legs, but that surprised me. Deep down, in the repressed part of my mind, I could accept that I was a sexually inferior male; but I was bad as a partner, too?!?!

I then asked her if she wanted to divorce and she said, "Oh NO! I love you and don't want to leave you." Well I got the promises that it would never happen again and we moved on. That was her first of many cheats...dumbfuck that I am, I only learned about the rest during pillow talk when I would cajole her to tell me about her past because I loved hearing about her fucking other men. By then, I wanted a hotwife, but she wasn't sure if I really meant it until she started to confess about THE OTHER GUYS I hadn't caught her with. Hearing about these men HOOKED ME!! I knew I was destined to marry a woman who had to get better fucking than I could provide.

Troy

[hwc]

Loving this Troy!

I asked if you could write a history of your time together and you haven't disappointed and have gone the extra mile!

BTW, when making longer posts, I NEVER trust OHW to post it correctly, so I always write it out elsewhere first, checking that the format carries across ok by doing a very short post using it first!

I am surprised more readers haven't picked this up, but don't take that as a judgement of your material or writing - it genuinely is excellent.

[troilusand]

What got Cressida to agree to hotwifing was our pillow talking about her past sex life, which included some of my friends, and her seeing how excited I got hearing what a slut she was. She eventually agreed to try it when she was sent on a work trip to New Orleans. This was early in our marriage and N.O. was where lived the man she told me was the favorite fuck of life! So when I found out she was scheduled to go there, Iasked if she'd like to meet him to fuck him again...to which she replied an enthusiastic, "YES!"

By this time, he was married with a kid, but still worked for the company she was at (he was the first co-worker of many she fucked) so she contacted him through the company directory and told him about the trip and would he like to meet for dinner? Our pillow talk involved her seducing him and taking him back to her hotel room while she and I fucked like bunnies imagining and planning her first sanctioned extramarital affair!. We were both committed to this now. And then...

And then he called and cancelled. He said his wife was fine with him meeting a work colleague for dinner...until she found out the colleague had been his lover. I told Cress to tell him to meet her on the sly but she wanted no part of that. She said she didn't want to cause anyone marital problems if they got caught. I pushed a little bit because this was an opportunity that FINALLY she agreed to, and I didn't want it to slip away.

At least Cressida was now certain that I REALLY wanted her to fuck other men. And this was when she opened up even more about the men she cheated on me with...and also left her feeling less guilty about the men she would cheat with in the future.

This also led to our excursion to attempt to break up my best friend's engagement to his fiance' by having Cress seduce him and me later telling him that I knew she was doing it...BECAUSE I SENT HER!!

Troy

[troilusand]

So my last post was a little repetitious...I went back and reread the thread. Sorry,

Something new: T is STILL my bestie, though he has no idea I know of his affair with my wife. And when we two are alone (and drinking) we STILL talk about women and sex; like we're still a couple of Horny teenagers. But NEVER about my wife...until a couple of years ago...and just one time.

We were both way too drunk to be driving home (although we later did) and were talking about sex -- sluts in particular. I asked him what porn sites he whacked to and proceeded to tell him that I ONLY(!) liked sites with real women...pro porn did nothing for me. He agreed and asked what sites I liked. In my drunken enthusiasm I told him "wifelovers" and couple of others...but the best was this site!

I said both this site and wifelovers had men posting pix and stories of their wives extramarital adventures! Real wives fucking other men. I told T how much I liked slutwife porn. It's my go-to. He agreed and thought it was hot, too.

Like I said, we were blisteringly drunk, so....so I told him how I was always mesmerized by sluts. That all my life they attracted ne, "Hell. I married one!" "But I've never been jealous. It never bothered me that Cressida was a slut. I knew she liked to fuck and so did I. I knew she was easy, so I knew I'd score on the first night...and I DID! She just likes fucking...well you know that. You've fucked her, too!"

This was the first time in our decades of of friendship that the subject of my wife's past had come up. I could see he wasn't very comfortable with the topic of him fucking my wife, so I didn't bring up their affair. Nor of the plan for Cress to be his personal whore if he agreed to drop his fiance'. I also talked about the other friends she fucked before we dated (our still good friends).

But it was SOOOO satisfying talking to a man about him fucking my wife. If I outlive Cress, the subject will come up again. But I've promised her not now as it would embarrass her when we all get together.

Troy

[troilusand]

To be clear, what would embarrass her would be my admission to T of being a cuckold and just how many men she's fucked/loved during our marriage. All our friendships are quite vanilla despite the fact that some of the men friends fucked her before we dated. It's all underground. No one but I have any thought to the past dalliances.

Also, she promised T that she would NEVER tell me about their affair. So she made me promise that I'd never tell him she snitched! You know you're a cuck when...your wife has few qualms about cheating on you with your best friend, but wouldn't think of betraying his request not to ever tell you. Or at least not of letting him find out she told you.

Yeah, I'm a loser.

Troy

[jjjason129]

Such a great story. Experiences with are super hot. You’ve got an amazing wife.

[armyguyot1]

Welcome to the forum jjjason129.

[wulfenus]

Just getting caught up with this great story. You may b a loser Troy but you’re a good one

[troilusand]

Just getting caught up with this great story. You may b a loser Troy but you’re a good one

Haha! Thanks Wulf, you're right, I AM a good loser!

Sorry not to reply sooner...don't always check this thread.

Troilus

[hwc]

Troy,

You have packed in more adventures than most experience in a lifetime!
when you have the time, it was be interesting to read about things that didn't happen that you wistfully wish could have!

[troilusand]

Troy,

You have packed in more adventures than most experience in a lifetime!
when you have the time, it was be interesting to read about things that didn't happen that you wistfully wish could have!

Well here's one thing that DIDN'T happen, but I was conflicted about.

Many years ago, we took a road trip to visit my sister. On the way there we had caught the attention of an 18 wheel trucker. We had passed each other a few times and had both courteously signaled our intents each time with flashing our running lights. I can't remember how it happened, but he signaled he was pulling off and waved to us to join him.

When we were driving he could see Cressida easily and she gave a friendly wave when we crossed paths...so he knew she was gorgeous and friendly. As we got to the ramp I asked Cress if she thought we should get off too. She said, "yeah, why not?"

When we stopped on the ramp and met him (he was a little older than us -- maybe 5 years), he said he was surprised...he thought I was a girl, too, because of my very long hair and the fact that he couldn't get a good look at me. He waved for us to get off because he was meeting a few other over-the-road trucker friends in a couple of hours to party that evening and he wanted to invite two chicks to join them.

We all laughed and he said, "well the offer is still good if you two want to come party with us anyway...we're having beers and some weed and just some good times." I told him probably not, we're on our way to visit my sister.

Being a box truck driver myself, I asked if I could see the layout of his cab, so he gave us a little tour each...Cressida's tour took a little longer...he invited her to lie down on in his sleeper to see how comfortable it was. There was a lot of flirting going on between them when he saw I didn't stop it.

After that we said our goodbyes. On the way to the car I asked Cress if she thought we should follow him and go to the party. We, being VERY young and VERY into partying usually let our desires of fun overwhelm our better judgment.

"Do you want to go?"
"I'm not sure, I bet it'll be fun getting drunk and stoned and listening to music and meeting the guys...but I'm not sure how safe it'd be for you."
"It might be fun..."
"I won't be able to protect, you know."
"If you want to go, I'll go. Whatever you decide"
"If things get out of hand, I won't be able to stop these guys."
"You decide."

We've never talked about this experience even in our pillowtalk years, but I think Cress was such a slut, she was willing to risk being raped (when your as young as we were you don't think the bad things will ever happen, even if you acknowledge the possibility) to be the SOLE focus of a small group of men she could flirt with and tease (including me!).

Cress didn't usually bring up pillowtalk topics, I did. But one of those times the topic of hostessing came up and she said, "I'd LOVE to hostess a poker game for all you guys and serve drinks and being felt up by you and your friends as I did." So she liked the idea of being the center of manly attention.

So, no this didn't happen. We got in the car, waved goodbye, and left. You asked, HWC, if I "wished" it would have, well...I was conflicted at the time. I was sure willing for my slutwife to be the sexual center of attention, but I sure didn't want her raped...GANG raped! I sure didn't want to be held down while she was forced to do things she didn't want.

I think young Cressida was probably imagining fucking one or more of these guys while I waited with the others...but not thinking of the negative possibilities of the situation.

If she had wanted to go off and fuck them ALL one-at-a-time, I would have loved it then...and now. But I think I made the right decision when we drove away. Not that I don't IMAGINE the scene of me back then being powerless while men do to my wife whatever they please...I said at the beginning of this I was conflicted.

Troy

[wulfenus]

If she had wanted to go off and fuck them ALL one-at-a-time, I would have loved it then...and now. But I think I made the right decision when we drove away. Not that I don't IMAGINE the scene of me back then being powerless while men do to my wife whatever they please...I said at the beginning of this I was conflicted.

Troy

it's a hot fantasy anyway, something you can now think about. maybe ask her what she wished had happened. something hot about it being truckers.

We were visiting a female friend who I always lusted after, but had been friend zoned yrs before, but still had fun with. We were having a good time but her boyfriend was miffed about something with her, it was in the air. We were in college, all of us about 23, later in our college yrs, she was an art student and well very artsy,. We were in a small college town with it being divided by the students and the townies/rednecks. He jokingly started telling us about how she had a fantasy of being in a van with 4 truckers and she had to give them all blowjobs while the others watched. . Oh man my ears went up along with other things. She played it cool, and didn't exactly deny, just smiled and went along with it.

The idea of this slinky artsy girl, Italian looking, with 4 truckers in a van, and she wanted it, fueled me for a long time !

[hwc]

"
If she had wanted to go off and fuck them ALL one-at-a-time, I would have loved it then...and now. But I think I made the right decision when we drove away."

I agree, right decision!

[JeffBingham]

Troy

P.S. If this is too long, well sorry. I'm writing about our lives and can't do better (maybe I'm writing this this way for myself -- IDK). So just move on if this is too slow for you. No hard feelings.

Not too long at all! I love origin stories. They need to be detailed or they’re not nearly as interesting!

[troilusand]

I'm putting this here because its pertinent, but this is for Dream Weaver who's PMed me:


Let me add to this thread, for me, it was less about my wife getting satisfaction I couldn't give her, and more that I chose a whore for a wife (which I really knew when I proposed, but sublimated). But mostly that some man was getting sexual satisfaction from the woman I married! ...And even more...SHE WAS FALLING IN LOVE WITH HIM!! And even better, was when they'd both fall in love and start a real relationship!

Yes, for me it was about "the man" getting what HE wanted from her, and disregarding any thought of me. And then her subsequent of encouragement of a love relationship with him, with him knowing I was in the background. ..."in the background"...just where a poly-cuck belongs.

Cressida never fucked a man she wasn't in love with. That is, even for ONSs she would fall in love enough to want fuck them -- kind of like a young girl "crush". For those men, tomorrow it was gone.

But again, MY motivation was how cheap my wife was (and how cheaply she treated our marriage vows). But more so that OTHER MEN treated our marriage vows as irrelevant. I LOVE that men sized us up (me, really), and determined that Troy's wife's body and her emotions were theirs to have if they chose. Troy didn't have a say in the matter.

Yes, impotent, but with a hard-on. That's not an oxymoron for a cuckold.

Troy

[Dream Weaver]

That's an interesting angle. Even in our PM's I'm not sure we touched on it. The personal discovery of another man sizing you up, and defeating you in your relationship. He wins her heart and body. You lose.
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Erection.

[troilusand]

That's an interesting angle. Even in our PM's I'm not sure we touched on it. The personal discovery of another man sizing you up, and defeating you in your relationship. He wins her heart and body. You lose.
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Erection.

Exactly, Dreamer! I get to keep her and she still loves me (like a brother), but he makes her cum and also gets her PASSIONATE love.

And like you said, "Erection!"

Troy

[troilusand]

Troy,

You have packed in more adventures than most experience in a lifetime!
when you have the time, it was be interesting to read about things that didn't happen that you wistfully wish could have!

Here's another, HWC:

Some years ago there was an isolated 2-flat on the main street in our suburb that we frequently drove past that newly had a for sale sign. Cressida commented on how nice it would be to sell our house and buy that! She said it would be a great arrangement for her to have both regular boyfriends (her normal state of life) AND for her to be able to embrace her true-slut and have one-off fucks (something she enjoyed, but rarely partook in). Of course, she also, conveniently, would have a husband living downstairs.

It wasn't in the cards to make that switch then, but occasionally when we'd pass by one of us would make a comment that "her love nest" was still for sale. I so wish we had gone that route as I know it would have exposed Cressida to so many more men and probably would have outed us since so many men would have known she was an easy-piece married slut. I'm sure word would have gotten around (more than it had already).

But more so, HWC, I believe that if we had the 2-flat when she started her love affair with Diomedes (her last lover) she'd have moved him in with her in her flat. She was the cause of his divorce and he needed a place to live. They eventually picked a home out together for him to buy, but it took some time and would have been natural for him to have moved in if she had her own apartment. Of course I would have encouraged it!

If it had happened I think there were two possibilities...no, probabilities that might have occurred:
1) Our family, friends, and co-workers would have known. I think this would have happened quickly as there really is no way to hide that your wife is living full-time with another man; AND...

2) During the middle years of their ten year relationship, I think they might have gotten married! There was a time when Diomedes made Cressida his sole beneficiary to all his assets. They asked me if it was okay and of course I gave my approval. Later I pointed out to Cressida that his largest asset would be his pension that she would NOT get...unless she was married him.

That went no further, BUT...I believe if they were already living as man-and-wife in the apartment above me for a year or two that that discussion would have resurfaced. And since they were in love, and I'd still be in the apartment below, I think logic would have eventually dictated our divorce and their marriage!

And yes! this was something I masturbated about when I first mentioned it...and have ever since! I would have loved telling our siblings and nieces and nephews that both of us loved Cressida and she loved both of us and it made financial sense that she married and lived with Diomedes.

There'd be no denying that I'm a cuckold and she's a slut and that I enjoyed her fucking and loving other men!

Of course there's no way of telling what the outcome of this situation might have been, but I think our relationship would have changed little. As an example of where the three of us were back then, already Diomedes and I referred to her as "our wife" whenever we talked about her together. But, pervert that I am, I was also prepared to lose completely to him over time if that's the way things had turned out.

So yes, I wish we would have bought that building! Maybe they'd still be together if they had gotten married...I wonder...
Troy

[BigJim]

I have just finished reading your thread in one go. It was a fascinating read. Well, my raging hard on is the result.

Your experience is in a way an eye opener for me. I felt very comfortable reading what you write with an impression of "yeah that's it", we are exactly on the same wavelength.

[troilusand]

I have just finished reading your thread in one go. It was a fascinating read. Well, my raging hard on is the result.

Your experience is in a way an eye opener for me. I felt very comfortable reading what you write with an impression of "yeah that's it", we are exactly on the same wavelength.

Thanks for the reply, Jim.

And yes, we're both pretty extreme when it comes to cuckold risk and acknowledging our inferiority as males. We both know other men deserve our women more than we do.

Troy

[troilusand]

More on the theme of "What I wished had happened."

I know I spoke earlier of my wife's GF from grammar school friendship that had rekindled and her being the only vanilla that ever knew about our LS. I mentioned about one time when the three of us were together for dinner and a movie at our house that she said with enthusiasm, "I love the three of us getting together...it's just like three good girl friends having a sleepover!"

The obvious implication was that now that she knew and saw me as a supportive cuckold, I was no longer on the man side of the ledger. That is, in her eyes, I was no threat to "act manly" in some aspect of conversation. I felt the humiliation immediately,

What never happened that I wish did was, at some point in time, that she and I could have had a long conversation where I could admit to her my sexual inferiorities and inadequacies (humiliating). And then hear her judgments about them (even more humiliating!).

I know when Cressida revealed our proclivities to her she felt the need to explain how she basically had 2 husbands that she loved...and that loved her. AND...that she had been a promiscuous slut since she was a teen. Cress kind of felt guilty at having 2 great, loving relationships while D just never could find the right guy...it wasn't bragging, it was really out of empathy. Cress wanted D to know that her life was "different", too, and like I said, she sort of felt guilty about it.

Anyway, I know Cressida didn't tell D of our juicy past and details of we how got to where we were (like I said, she wasn't bragging), but that's the other part of my regret of me not having a convo with her. I SO wanted to tell her how Cress couldn't help herself from cheating because, 1) it was her nature -- she loved bagging new men, and 2) that I was so disappointing in bed. And then I wanted to tell her how it was ME who had to convince Cress to fuck other men with my approval. And that, as much as I liked to fuck, I preferred Cressida fucking (and falling in love with) other men MORE than I wanted her fuck me.

Her just knowing of our LS was humiliating in itself, but for me to tell A WOMAN what sexual loser I am would have been over the top. Going into all those details and answering her attorney (which she was) style questions would have been delicious!

Alas, their friendship ended (due to BS that NOTHING to do with the LS) before I got the chance to embarrass myself to her. Oh well...

Troy

[hwc]

Ah, if we knew then what we know now, Hindsight would be a wonderful thing! I think we all look back and think how we would have done things differently, better, I know I do, probably daily!

I remember when a good friend had fallen in love with my wife, it wasn't reciprocated but they were definitely good friends. I look back now and realise that I could have still easily created many situations where they where together, more often, for longer. I would really have gotten off on that, my friend would have been in heaven and with him being a gentleman, with money to spend, my wife have been happily pampered.

Because my wife was not in love with him, I felt at the time, it would be wrong to get them to spend time doing activities together but looking back, I see it would have been harmless - and I could have just been honest with my wife and her admirer, I could have told her he was smitten and that having gone through a divorce, she could help cheer him up. I could have told him that I didn't think she shared his strong feelings, but that as they got along so well and we're good friends, I had no objection to him offering to take her away for a weekend trip, knowing they would both have a great time.

I would also have added that he had a fee-hand to go as far as he felt my wife would be comfortable with and seize the moment, should one arise.
I did not need to advise him to be respectful to my wife, because he always was respectful of everyone. As soon as he had feelings for my wife, he took me for a drink and admitted it. I put his mind at ease telling him I already knew, as it was quite obvious to me all along! And he knew then, that I had done nothing to dissuade him from 'dropping by' to our home, when I was out at work and spending the day with her, or offering that they both go see a film, show, or concert they both liked, which they did many times.

It would have been the easiest thing in the world for me, to get them to spend more time together and I didn't, which I regret.
The only consolation is that knowing my wife, though she liked him very much, I don't think that 'like' was going to turn into love for her.

[betacuckold]

Fascinating story, Troilus. It sounds like you are a lot like me, a natural cuckold who didn't know it until subjected to being cheating on, only to realize it clicks for you.

Cressida sounds amazing.