Jane' adventure

[DaBolts]

Even if you are completely in the wrong for starting the physical altercation your wife should forgive you and take your side on this. I personally would forbid her from seeing him again and stand your ground. Take back what is rightfully yours.

[jane]

Even if you are completely in the wrong for starting the physical altercation your wife should forgive you and take your side on this. I personally would forbid her from seeing him again and stand your ground. Take back what is rightfully yours.

he did forbid me.
but since he started a fight, lost and then deron forced him to say that he owns me i don't think i should have to do what anyone says.

[caniseeu1st]

Even if you are completely in the wrong for starting the physical altercation your wife should forgive you and take your side on this. I personally would forbid her from seeing him again and stand your ground. Take back what is rightfully yours.

he did forbid me.
but since he started a fight, lost and then deron forced him to say that he owns me i don't think i should have to do what anyone says.

Wow! Been a fan for a while and have to wonder who Ms. Jane thinks "owns" her. Mr. Jane, Deron, or ....?

[jane]

I OWN ME

[Mr Quick]

How does someone force you to say that they own your wife? This is the kind of BS that is starting to turn me off to this lifestyle. Jane, how come your not getting your husbands back on this one? He took vows to love and care for you forever, not the other d-bag that thinks he owns you.

[jane]

yes, we talked about a vacation. i'm not sure about not being with david. deron mentioned that, but it was mostly about other men.
as far as owning my pussy, deron has said that before. the reason i was upset is that after david got knocked down deron put his arm around me and i said to david 'aren't you going to do something?' and his response was 'what can i do?' i felt helpless. so then he got up, swung at deron and deron grabbed his arm and twisted it.
well if people think i am in the wrong now, then i'll just stop posting.

[soccer98654]

yes, we talked about a vacation. i'm not sure about not being with david. deron mentioned that, but it was mostly about other men.
as far as owning my pussy, deron has said that before. the reason i was upset is that after david got knocked down deron put his arm around me and i said to david 'aren't you going to do something?' and his response was 'what can i do?' i felt helpless. so then he got up, swung at deron and deron grabbed his arm and twisted it.
well if people think i am in the wrong now, then i'll just stop posting.

I don't think anyone wants you to stop posting, I know that I don't.

Your reaction to the situation depends on how you and David view your relationship at this point, among a myriad of other factors. I think that there are a lot of discussions that take place behind the scenes we aren't privy to. From the outside looking in it seems that you have made the transition into more of a cuckolding relationship. Have you and David discussed this at all? Maybe David just wasn't prepared for this level of cuckolding (giving up ownership of his wifes body) and all parties involved need to take a step back and reanalyze where you are and where you want to be right now.

There is no reason this needs to escalate into a major relationship issue, its just a bump in the road that goes along with the lifestyle.

[HerLittleGuy]

It sounds like it may be time for some introspection. And as tough as it's going to be, Jane needs to step up and manage her men.

It wasn't right for Deron to confront your hubby, especially in your own home. He's a guest - in your home and presumably in your marriage.

Start with your "I OWN ME" statement. Then, put that into the context of your marriage. What does your marriage mean to you? Does your husband still have a special role in your heart? He's bruised - not just physically. He feels put down by both you and your chum. If his status should be elevated from where he's been put, it'll be up to you to do this, and to assert that status with both, making certain that both know that it's YOUR right to make this decision.

A vacation with Deron may be a bad idea at this moment in time. Hopefully Deron will see this as well, and allow you and hubby a chance to talk and settle things at home first.

Warm regards.

hlg

[Mr Quick]

I really can't say your in the wrong. It's definitely not your fault...unless your leading the other guy on. As far as your husband just backing down, I can def see where you would feel helpless. I would just hope when the other guy put his arm around you and started talking shit to your husband you would push him away and say this kinda crap just don't fly with me. Are these possessive tendencies new or has he been talking this way for awhile. Mr Jane, I feel for ya brother but its do or die now. I haven't read your whole story but you more than likely started this journy...you need to step up and not take this kinda shit from someother man. Its def a risk you knew you were taking.

[Wifesharing]

I don't think you are in the wrong I think Deron is in the Worng. I think if you do not agree with your husband and terminate deron's access to you then you would be in the worng.

This is just my opinion ofcourse maybe you guy like it that way and its just all a part of your play

[bubbajack]

I do not see how anyone who was not there can judge the right and wrong of what happened the other night among these three people.

A lot has gone on among them over a fairly long time, involving a potent emotional mixture of sex, dominance/submission, defiance of norms and standards that they all internalize to some degree, mutual excitement of passions, and the accumulation of many many thrills and chills.

Neither of the men is fully capable, it seems, of treating Jane as the sexual free agent she has set her mind on being - each wants her as a personal resource to which he has access on a partially exclusive basis for serving a range of his needs.

It also seems that Jane's ability to manage their dominance behaviors directed towards her is somewhat compromised by her own tendency towards (enjoyment of) submissive behavior in selected sexual contexts.

In sum, a confrontation among these three people over boundaries is not hard to understand: Boundary play is why these people sought each other out and what they get together in order to do!!

The fucking and so forth (which I love to read and think about) is primarily a mode of expression of their fundamental attraction to transgressing the norms of the dominant culture, in which they are all, like us, engulfed, whether we like it or not.

Okay - some definitely unpleasant stuff took place in a situation and on a subject that they all knew was as volatile as it could be. But it all came about quickly, I'm sure, in the same wrought-up emotional context as all the other efforts they have made to experience the thrills they have been remarkably successful in giving each other (and us) for a while now.

I hope we can suppress the impulse to lecture them on how wrong and bad that some, any, or all of them are. This sort of thing "happens in the best-regulated societies" as my disapproving grandparents said to my mother when she announced her pregnancy with yet another "unaffordable" child.

I urge that whatever we think we would or might have done in the same circumstances or what our own almighty fucking OPINIONS are, that we express support for all three of them as they right the boat and get on with enjoying their lives in whatever manner they see fit.

You go, kids!

[jane]

bubbajack

[Aynsley]

bubbajack

Well said, counselor.

[54321]

Playing a sub role can be fun but there is always a danger of losing integrity (or worse!) when dealing with doms.

Unfortunately, there was no "I OWN ME" at the moment when Deron put his arm around you, when the vacation was discussed without David, or when exclusivity was mentioned.

Take a tip from 'Husband' (in the Cuckold Forum). He is extremely sub, but very smart at switching in and out of role.

If you were both to do this, JH wouldn't get blindsided and drawn into a battle he couldn't win and you wouldn't make things worse by going all 'damsel in distress'.

Dear Jane, I'm a huge fan of you and JH and admire you both for exploring territory in which I may never dare set foot. As pioneers, you probably won't get it right all the time,
but hey, we still love you.

Deron is probably best put down to experience, but an experience which, I hope, will contribute to a smoother ride in your next hotwifing adventure!

Every good wish,

54321

[Mr Quick]

Its definitely your decision Jane. Nobody owns you, not even your husband. It just seems like alot of trouble to go through when the whole idea is to have fun. Deron seems to be that the heart of the problem. May you two should cut your losses and move on...enjoy each other awhile and reconnect. I just don't see taking this other guys side as being right. Don't forget for better or worse...you would exspect the same if the tables were turned. Best of luck to you two.

[willntampa]

Jane has not made it 100% that she will not be with Deron again and David knows the word forbid in the Lifestyle Jane has been down many roads she would Probley not if it had not been for David
so Jane your not to blame and I don't see that my brother Deron is either. One word you never tell a woman
****** Forbid ****** and David you owe Deron your apology as well and I am sorry but Jane owns that puss
as i get what I have read you asked her to give it to another man its never yours 100% again David sorry bra

[jane]

finally some nice posts

[Wifesharing]

I am not passing judgement I don't think this is a matter of who is right and wrong, violence has occured and I think at this point Deron should be done in my world he would be, I do reserve my opinion is mine and maybe they love the drama.

As for David needs to apolgize to Deron and all that garbage please I think some people might take fantasy to far.


I agree with Mr. bear on this completly. We only have the information we have but Deron seems to have been the one to say he "owns" your pussy, I would make sure Deron was not in the picture, not out of spite but because if it crossed a line this time how much worse does it get next time I mean Jane was upset JH couldn't get up and fight on and allowed Deron to continue to have his arm on her she could have told him to get his arm off her but didn't in her owns words looked down at her husband and said what are you going to do (I might have miss-read that) so now that JH's pride and manhood have been called into question next time what measures does JH take to defend his wife's and his honor (scary thought). Just seems the safest easiest best solution would be Deron is out. Fantasy and real life are not the samething, if you can not seperate them you might need help.

[Mr Quick]

willntampa, your full of it if you think David should apologize!....and HornyHenry if you think just cause one man is smaller than the other he can't or shouldn't step up and defend his wifes honor and save face....your full of it too! That is a weak minded statement sir!

[taboodude]

Wow... being new to the forum, skimming my way through this thread, and seeing how things have progressed is pretty intense.

I don't have any input on this specific situation, certainly, since I'm new. The one thing I tell pretty much anyone having any drama is that every now and then everyone should take a break... make sure you are still happy with your basic situation... make sure that all parties involved are still happy and truly into everything that is happening.

It's really easy to get caught up in a situation and forget to look at things objectively from all points of view.

[Mr Quick]

HornyHenry I respect the fact that you are a combat veteran but I dont respect the fact of another person being invited into your home and then being disrepectful as this man did. He needs to respect the fact that he was invited into their relationship for the purposes of a good time only and his opinions at the end of the day dont mean squat. For him to have the balls to walk in another mans house and say that he owns his wife and think nothing is going to happen is beyond me. I dont care if the guys smaller or bigger than me he better be ready to throw down if he dispected me that way. And if he wants to be a hard ass I'm more than willing to put a bullet in his ass...and thats within the limits of the law if hes threating me in my home in Georgia.

[Mr Quick]

I agree with alot of what your saying HornyHenry. David and Jane I apologize for getting so fired up on your thread. This guy doesn't appear to repect either one of you. It seems he doesn't respect you David as man and husband and it seems that hes looking at you Jane as an object to be had. You two are a victim of this guy only if you let yourselves be. Cut your losses and find a friend that respects the both of you, as individuals and as a couple. Good luck.

[hornedhubby]

Best wishes in working through this, Jane and David.

I agree with everything Bubbajack wrote. I'll only add the following speculative observation. It seems to me that David loves being submissive to Jane, but he does not want to be submissive to her FB's.

This is one of my boundaries, as well. In the type of play you engage in, I could take and enjoy dominant instructions and declarations from my wife. But I wouldn't be the type of cuck to tolerate that from a guy. In fact, my tolerance would be near zero.

[Hotwife_Mustang]

I OWN ME

[jane]

i took my kids to the park for a while. had to get away from this. for the people that talk about me getting rid of deron, you can forget it. he's always treated me good too. i feel like a lot of people on here get off on what others are doing, then they get judgemental. hotwifing isn't all fun and games , if you didn't already know. i hate what happend, and i'm not happy with either of them , but it's their issue , not mine. deron has been the dominant man sexually in my life in the last two years, and he was stating it. i hope they both apologize to each other.