Wife and my Dad

[cat31]

Dave,

to Jenna:

1 - You missed the whole point. It was about taking fire play close to the edge but sharing the experience and then stepping back for a breather to remember about us. That you left me for the man of your dreams says: a- I was never that man, and b- it would have eventually happened anyway, whether my stepdad or someone else later on. That you fell for someone else tells me you never understood how special my gift to you was, giving you the freedom to enjoy the company of others without repercussions to what we (supposedly) had together.

2 - While the game was on, it added to the experience, weird as it may seem, to put me in cuck space by showing me the gifts and evidence of pleasure that another man gave you. Now that what we had is destroyed, the fire walking game is over as well, and it is heartless and cruel to continue to rub my nose in it. If what you have gained is all you have to talk about, don't bother.

3 - I have learned much from this, much about myself, but much more about who you are. I am moving on to a life without you. I wish you well.


And to dear old Dad :

Best of luck ... Dad. You are of course aware that she walked out on her husband to "trade up". Don't think for a minute that you won't be subject to the same thing, it's just a matter of time before she meets another better man, and trades up again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

PERFECT!

[SmilingHusband]

PERFECT!

yep!!!

[frank22]

Hey Dave,

I'm glad you are starting to move on with your life. It's good that you have friends who helping you get out of the house by setting you with blind dates, etc. Good luck to you.

[softy]

Hi Dave,

I don't comment much, but I have been following your story for months now. I was going to tell you to snap out of it the way others have, but I realized your sense of compersion for the whole thing as well as your obvious extremely strong cuckold tendencies. But now that I've seen your healing begin to take place, it seems like things are going to be just fine.

Jen probably thought that the BMW show was her way of helping you get your rocks off. But I think she doesn't realize that you will move on in life just as she has. She can't leave you and then expect you to be dependent on her for your happiness. I predict that she will not like the fact that you're moving on, but she cant have it both ways. At any rate, that intance showed a lot about her and I think you took notice.

As for your dad, whatever, man. Nobody who claims to be a father figure would step over those boundaries, no matter what. We are assuming he had no idea that you enjoyed their hookups, right? I know you love him and can't blame him, but he is so much at fault here. It doesn't matter if he and Jen were truly meant for each other, you just don't do that to family. You don't. I'm sorry to be preachy because I admire you and your courage to indulge in your fantasies, and I am rooting for you the whole time. But these two people for whom you give too much credit really worked you over.

I hope things continue to get better for you. And I'll always be following.

[curiousdave]

Jen probably thought that the BMW show was her way of helping you get your rocks off. But I think she doesn't realize that you will move on in life just as she has. She can't leave you and then expect you to be dependent on her for your happiness. I predict that she will not like the fact that you're moving on, but she cant have it both ways. At any rate, that intance showed a lot about her and I think you took notice.

Thanks for your kind words softy. I've thought about this a good bit since it happened and I think you may be right. I don't know for a fact because I have avoided talking with her but it seems logical that maybe she was thinking it would get me off or something. And that dark, deep down place I have for this sort of thing, well it did a little. But instead of embracing it this time, for whatever reason I went the opposite direction and let it offend me. Now what I've been thinking is, if Jen was trying to "Get me off", after the things she said about not being able to "go there" again... then why? Is she missing that little game we had now? I wonder. I don't know anything for sure and part of me hopes she is missing our fun and sexy times, but also I am starting to grow apart from those feelings now so. Who knows? It's all new ground for me.

Thanks for your words of encouragement. It helps!

[curiousdave]

Dave,

Good to see you are recovering, all around, and thanks for keeping us updated, we want to see you healthy and well after all this. As many here on OHW have said before (to many others), the best revenge is moving on to a life well lived. Move on, live well, and remember the good parts, forget the rest. Easy enough to say I suppose, but some of us have walked this road, it can be done, just takes time.

I have thought for some time now what I would say to Jenna were it me in your shoes. This is of course just me venting vicariously.

to Jenna:

1 - You missed the whole point. It was about taking fire play close to the edge but sharing the experience and then stepping back for a breather to remember about us. That you left me for the man of your dreams says: a- I was never that man, and b- it would have eventually happened anyway, whether my stepdad or someone else later on. That you fell for someone else tells me you never understood how special my gift to you was, giving you the freedom to enjoy the company of others without repercussions to what we (supposedly) had together.

2 - While the game was on, it added to the experience, weird as it may seem, to put me in cuck space by showing me the gifts and evidence of pleasure that another man gave you. Now that what we had is destroyed, the fire walking game is over as well, and it is heartless and cruel to continue to rub my nose in it. If what you have gained is all you have to talk about, don't bother.

3 - I have learned much from this, much about myself, but much more about who you are. I am moving on to a life without you. I wish you well.


And to dear old Dad :

Best of luck ... Dad. You are of course aware that she walked out on her husband to "trade up". Don't think for a minute that you won't be subject to the same thing, it's just a matter of time before she meets another better man, and trades up again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Thanks so much for this. All of it, everything you said. It really hit the spot so to speak and I appreciate you following along all this time and caring in such a way. I would have to say in all the time I've been here and well since things went wrong. Well these were some of the best comments made to me I guess I am in one of those funny/lonely type moods tonight. Was a little depressed again today and everyone's great, helpful advice and encouragement really helped me. I am feeling better already. Thank you, all of you

[curiousdave]

Let's not forget Dave & Jenna's relationship up to now... how Jenna's always been keen to share her newfound excitement and good-fortune with her 'best friend' and partner. From her perspective, who better to share her present with than her good ol' Dave?


hlg

This is sort of how she put it and I do/did believe her. I mean I think it was probably a little of that anyway. Maybe also mixed with some "not so nice" stuff or like I said earlier maybe she was helping me "get what she thinks I want". If that's the case then I am confused about things. I was entering into a different mind set where I accepted those times would be over forever. Maybe I am reaching with all this and in some way imagining what I would like it to be, even though outwardly I am trying to move past it all. Who knows, I just don't know exactly what is what right now. LOL incase anyone is wondering I am a little buzzed tonight. Went out with friends after work for a few beers and now I am home alone and thinking about all this shit and bouncing back and forth on how I am feeling. Sorry if I'm not making as much sense as usual about things. I normally don't write things down while buzzing

[curiousdave]

Dave I'm so proud of you! It makes me so happy to read your latest entry. You may not feel it fully right now, but your strength is returning. In time, I predict you will be an even stronger man when the storm has settled. Its going to be hard to put up these boundaries between you and Jenna, and you may stumble a few times, but I think you are on the right path. You handled these few situations with Jenna lately very well. Right now it may feel like you're forcing it, or faking it to lessen the contact with her, but trust me, eventually you won't have to think about it. It'll be a natural course of how this will play out. The blind date is great. You may see this new girl again, or you may never see her again in your life. The point is, this blind double date happened and you got a lot of positivity out of it.

Again, I am so so so proud of you! I wish you well and I'm fully confident that strength of your's will be in peak condition before you know it

Thank you Rebecca. I appreciate your kind words

[Trixkat]

Dave...I think you need a new avatar!

[Wistful]

Dave...I think you need a new avatar!

I agree with Trixkat! Your old avatar has seemed a bit grating these past few weeks.

[wingman]

Dave
See if your redhead friend would pose for your avatar
And write as much as you want when buzzed. It will be fun reading!

[mopacpower]

How about a wolf avatar! Because you are now on the hunt for a new mate, most animals do this in the spring.

It is to soon, to put up a picture of the lrh girl, but maybe she will like to have her photo taken later.

[aldada]

just curious, but have you thought of making a pass at Jenna's mom?

[creampiecurious]

Way to go, Dave! Keep moving forward! Yes, you'll still have feelings for Jen for a while, but SHE decided to dump YOU. So she needs to know that "good ol' Dave" WON'T BE THERE for her anymore. She made her bed and now gets to lie in it.

Be strong, get better. Whether anything really happens with Red doesn't matter--it's movement forward.

CPC

[b_p]

the day after Valentines she texted me and said she wanted to show me something. She was very secretive about it and wanted to know when I'd be home. Later in the day her and her girlfriend dropped by. What she wanted to show me was her new BMW that he bought her as a Valentines gift.

That was a very insensitive thing for her to do. In fact, I'll go farther, somewhere I normally don't. It was downright shitty.

Of course, the reason she was secretive about it was that she knew you would say no if she told you what it was. (Re-read previous paragraph, if in doubt.)

But you know something else? I don't care how much the old man makes. He borrowed every cent of the money to buy her that car. All of it. If that's what she wants out of life with him, good luck, she's welcome to it. She will probably die poor. (I'm serious.)

Oh back to the date. My friend said she told her friend I was cute and she wouldn't mind seeing me again. I haven't decided what I'm gonna do, we'll see I guess. I'll probably ask her out again, just not sure when. I don't want to come off desperate or needy.

If you liked her, ask her out again. If she enjoyed spending time with you, she won't see it as needy.

However, don't let yourself fall for the trap that says you can't date more than one woman right now. It's perfectly legitimate. You can decide for yourself whether or not you want to sleep with any of them. Either decision about that is okay.

if Jen was trying to "Get me off", after the things she said about not being able to "go there" again... then why? Is she missing that little game we had now? I wonder. I don't know anything for sure and part of me hopes she is missing our fun and sexy times, but also I am starting to grow apart from those feelings now

I think she is probably starting to miss the games that the two of you had. Too bad for her -- she screwed up and crossed the line. If she hasn't already, she will soon discover the downside of being with an alpha male. He won't want her to even LOOK at another guy, let alone think about dating one. She doesn't yet know how good she had it.

This may mean that she has to cheat on him behind his back to get that feeling of excitement again. If she comes to you with that request, maybe phrased "for old times sake," I think you are going to be strong enough to politely say "No thanks." Although I would certainly understand the appeal of getting back at him.

Also, it's okay to continue to fantasize about her and the fun you had together and especially about the sex. That's okay, it's just part of the process of readjusting. It will eventually go away over time.

And... thanks for the updates!

[Jaxunman]

Dave, I have no doubt getting over your ex is going to take time. You worshipped the ground she walked on for so long. Perhaps you still carry quite a bit of guilt around and that keeps you from letting Jen and your step-dad take their full share of the blame.

I agree with the others who feel that you are on the right path by limiting your contact with either of them. They made their choices. By staying in close contact with them, you soothe their guilt and allow them peace at your expense.

I would even suggest taking bigger steps. Look at getting rid of the house you shared with Jen. Seeing reminders of her everywhere only prolongs the agony. Move across town, try downsizing to a smaller space, hell, when you are back to full health, start looking for related employment in a nearby city. The point is, move on. Let them wonder where you are and how you are doing.

[Natalie212]

Dave, I have no doubt getting over your ex is going to take time. You worshipped the ground she walked on for so long. Perhaps you still carry quite a bit of guilt around and that keeps you from letting Jen and your step-dad take their full share of the blame.

I agree with the others who feel that you are on the right path by limiting your contact with either of them. They made their choices. By staying in close contact with them, you soothe their guilt and allow them peace at your expense.

I would even suggest taking bigger steps. Look at getting rid of the house you shared with Jen. Seeing reminders of her everywhere only prolongs the agony. Move across town, try downsizing to a smaller space, hell, when you are back to full health, start looking for related employment in a nearby city. The point is, move on. Let them wonder where you are and how you are doing.

Such great advice!

Hi Dave, just finished reading this thread and feeling so sad about how things turned out but I'm glad you're doing better both physically and mentally and I hope you're starting to move on. So glad to hear you've been dating. That's great news! Even if this girl doesn't turn out to be what you're looking for, keep meeting people. As others have said, don't sell yourself short. You deserve someone who truly cares about you and there are many women out there who will appreciate what you have to offer. Who cares if you're not the tallest guy or the one with the biggest cock, somebody who loves you for who you are won't care about that.

Sorry to say this, but it was probably just a matter of time until the person you were with bailed for one reason or another, so don't blame yourself or your fantasies. Someone who loves their partner deeply doesn't just fall out of love because of the lure of a bigger cock or a wealthier man. At any rate, you're now free to find your true soul mate and hopefully that will happen sooner than later

[lozrob66]

That was a good point. Jenna wasn't your soul mate. Just another notch on your bed post.

[seductionrules]

I don't think anyone can read this thread and not feel the real love, feelings and the subsequent pain between Dave and Jen.

Best of luck and I hope it's a time of change towards better times.
Regards

MR SR

[b_p]

Someone who loves their partner deeply doesn't just fall out of love because of the lure of a bigger cock or a wealthier man.

I completely agree with what Natalie said.

[jackburton4444]

I Don't agree with what Natalie said. She's thinking like a typical person, not a cuck.

It's not right or wrong but for Dave (and most cucks) the fact that the bull (dad or not) has more money, power and yes especially a bigger cock IS the point. Read his story and cues that drove his arousal. It's the relative disrespect that fuels the experience. And Dave's yielding acceptance fuels it from his side. Dave's just trying to drag out the appreciation the experience for as long as possible, especially considering it's cost.

Not a cuck but I can spot one...

Jack

[b_p]

Dave's just trying to drag out the appreciation the experience for as long as possible, especially considering it's cost.

Respectfully, you're entitled to your opinion.

However, I couldn't disagree more.

[Reprobate]

Dave,

I have just joined this board and your thread was the first one I read. Thank you for posting your story with so much detail and honesty. You definitely have exhibited an incredible amount of integrity in how you posted and responded to others here. I as read your cautionary tale today, I made of so much in it that I can use as guidance in my own situation

My wife and I have dated since high school and have been married for 25 years. I can you tell you honestly that cuckolding has been part of my make-up since I've been 18 (I'm 50 now). I won't hijack your thread with anymore of my own story, but let's just say i am still hopeful that it will happen for us one day. Right now, I am trying to learn from people who have actually been there.

As I read the last part of your experience, I wondered if you feel cuckolding is something you will strive for in future relationships. Do you think it is part of you now, despite all that has happened, something you will try again? You mentioned how good it felt to feel stronger and not think about Jen as much anymore. I am so happy you are doing better.

Thanks again!

[Mia]

Dave,

I have just joined this board and your thread was the first one I read. Thank you for posting your story with so much detail and honesty. You definitely have exhibited an incredible amount of integrity in how you posted and responded to others here. I as read your cautionary tale today, I made of so much in it that I can use as guidance in my own situation

My wife and I have dated since high school and have been married for 25 years. I can you tell you honestly that cuckolding has been part of my make-up since I've been 18 (I'm 50 now). I won't hijack your thread with anymore of my own story, but let's just say i am still hopeful that it will happen for us one day. Right now, I am trying to learn from people who have actually been there.

As I read the last part of your experience, I wondered if you feel cuckolding is something you will strive for in future relationships. Do you think it is part of you now, despite all that has happened, something you will try again? You mentioned how good it felt to feel stronger and not think about Jen as much anymore. I am so happy you are doing better.

Thanks again!

Welcome to OHW, Reprobate.



Mia

[wingman]

Dave -

Hows it going.... any new dates, or any new news on Jenn and your Dad?