Big new development in our cuckold arrangement

[frank r]

Subguy

I was where you are 11 months ago. When I accepted SIR as the alpha male was when h amounted me on new years eve as i held beth's hand.
I never felt as close to Beth at that moment and that my true place was to be in service to their desires.When SIR took me and i whimpered a
bit as his large cock entered me Beth kissed my forehead and whispered to me "It is a good pain isn't it?" when i didn't respond she kissed me
again and said your cock is rigid. "You are where you belong go give him your self now" I let go and as he came in me i too released a moment
later. Sir was indeed SIR to me.

frankie

[subguy80]

About the sleeping arrangement, how have I to imagine this? I mean, she sleeps one night with Jamal and then the next night she completely spends with you, without visiting Jamal during the night, and then the next night again with Jamal and so on?
Wearing the cage for such an extended and long period at least during the day (maybe even on some nights, too), aren't you worried about permanent shrinkage of your cock? I assume that something neither you nor Sarah wants. I ask because you hear some horrible stories about this.

Sarah decides where she sleeps. Sometimes she will move into my room after she's had sex with Jamal. Those are nice because she brings me a creampie. Other times, she'll spend the whole night with him and other times she'll spend the whole night with me. I never know, but I feel like I'm getting "my share" of her.

I’m not sure if being caged over longer periods of time actually causes your dick to shrink. I’m not caged 24/7, so it might not happen anyway. If anyone has any experience with shrinkage, I’d love to hear from you. My penis size doesn’t matter so much anymore(strange to admit). My wife prefers to get fucked by Jamal’s cock and the days of my penis being a “tool of pleasure” for her pussy are over, at least for now, and maybe forever.

My dick is still a “tool of pleasure” in other ways, i.e. for me, when I’m yanking, the hand jobs and blow jobs that Sarah does so well, plus our occasional tantric sessions. She’s started to call it the “little guy,” just like Aaron used to and now Jamal. But not in a mocking or bad way. We all have fun with that. She says she prefers giving me blow jobs over Jamal because she can take all of me in her mouth and only a fraction of him.

So, if the cage shrinks me over time and I lose an inch, or even two, then I’m OK with that. It’s liberating. I like to have my smaller size on display next to his, it’s hot. I took a little risk the other day at the gym. I was caged and although the showers are private, I let my caged dick be exposed in the dressing room. No one was in my locker aisle or walked by, but it was fun to take the little “risk” anyway. I’ll do it again.

During a cuddle and “pillow talk” session, Sarah confessed to me that she has better vaginal sex with larger cocks (read: larger than mine). I don’t think she’s been “faking it” or misleading me for the last 20 years. During our swinging days, I’ve witnessed her have lots of fun with cocks smaller than mine. But, she’s had regular sex now with two porn-star-sized lovers for over 5 years and it’s changed her, both physically and emotionally. It took courage for her to admit that and I’m happy with myself that I so easily understood and accepted it.

[D+D]

Awesome subguy! Sarah is and will always be your wife. The fact that a larger cock gives her more pleasure is just a fact and that's all. I imagine that Jamal also has much more stamina than you and much more than Aaron for that matter. You're a big man to accept that. So actually your cock size doesn't really matter. Besides, as I know from experience, it kind of takes a load off of you knowing that someone else is giving her the pounding that she wants and needs and you're not expected to "measure up". Pun intended.

[frank r]

Subway

Both you and Sarah should be applauded. My Beth and I never feel as close as when after she has been with SIR we cuddle and she thanks me for
the orgasm that SIR has just given her. If it is possible I feel closer to her. It makes me filled with joy to see her pleasured and smiling and kissing me or showing me her appreciation by giving me the most loving blow job.

frankie b

[Xalar11]

I’m not sure if being caged over longer periods of time actually causes your dick to shrink. I’m not caged 24/7, so it might not happen anyway. My penis size doesn’t matter so much anymore(strange to admit).

So, if the cage shrinks me over time and I lose an inch, or even two, then I’m OK with that. It’s liberating.

Maybe you don't mind shrinkage so much, but wearing a cock-cage, even if it's just only a few hours a day, but doing over an extended period, could also lead to Erectile Dsyfunction (ED) in many cases, in the longterm. And I assume, at least this is something you still want to avoid and avoid "to emasculte" yourself completely. Sorry for the blunt words.

Excuse me, if sound too negative for your taste, but that's not an issue you should be lightly kidding with. And it possibly could even become health concerning, if the device puts any compression on your Erectile tissue, over a period. And if don't believe me ask any urologist, I'm sure they all will say that wearing a chastity device over a longer peroid isn't a very healthy thing to do. And I'm also sure they all would strongly recommend not to wear your cock-cage any longer than 2-3 hours.

[rspanked]

I’m not sure if being caged over longer periods of time actually causes your dick to shrink. I’m not caged 24/7, so it might not happen anyway. My penis size doesn’t matter so much anymore(strange to admit).

So, if the cage shrinks me over time and I lose an inch, or even two, then I’m OK with that. It’s liberating.

Maybe you don't mind shrinkage so much, but wearing a cock-cage, even if it's just only a few hours a day, but doing over an extended period, could also lead to Erectile Dsyfunction (ED) in many cases, in the longterm. And I assume, at least this is something you still want to avoid and avoid "to emasculte" yourself completely. Sorry for the blunt words.

Excuse me, if sound too negative for your taste, but that's not an issue you should be lightly kidding with. And it possibly could even become health concerning, if the device puts any compression on your Erectile tissue, over a period. And if don't believe me ask any urologist, I'm sure they all will say that wearing a chastity device over a longer peroid isn't a very healthy thing to do. And I'm also sure they all would strongly recommend not to wear your cock-cage any longer than 2-3 hours.

I've been engaging in and reading about chastity play for over 15 years now and by no means is what you're claiming a consensus of either doctors or people active in the lifestyle. Years ago, I did three months without being unlocked, with absolutely no issues. Many men have found the exact opposite actually. When they are released, their erections are stronger than what they are previously used to. What you're presenting as something you're "sure" of, simply isn't fact.

[subguy80]

I've been engaging in and reading about chastity play for over 15 years now and by no means is what you're claiming a consensus of either doctors or people active in the lifestyle. Years ago, I did three months without being unlocked, with absolutely no issues. Many men have found the exact opposite actually. When they are released, their erections are stronger than what they are previously used to. What you're presenting as something you're "sure" of, simply isn't fact.

I think the longest period of time I went being caged was about a week. The only change I noticed is that I began to get fewer erections during the night, but it didn't negatively affect my erections after removal.

I've also talked to a couple of guys who used to come to those BDSM parties that Bob hosted. One guy had gone for six months. Like anything, I suppose we need to listen to our bodies and take it off if it's harming our dicks. The one guy did say that he thought his penis had become a bit smaller and more inclined to stay shrunken even after the cage was removed.

[rspanked]

I've been engaging in and reading about chastity play for over 15 years now and by no means is what you're claiming a consensus of either doctors or people active in the lifestyle. Years ago, I did three months without being unlocked, with absolutely no issues. Many men have found the exact opposite actually. When they are released, their erections are stronger than what they are previously used to. What you're presenting as something you're "sure" of, simply isn't fact.

I think the longest period of time I went being caged was about a week. The only change I noticed is that I began to get fewer erections during the night, but it didn't negatively affect my erections after removal.

I've also talked to a couple of guys who used to come to those BDSM parties that Bob hosted. One guy had gone for six months. Like anything, I suppose we need to listen to our bodies and take it off if it's harming our dicks. The one guy did say that he thought his penis had become a bit smaller and more inclined to stay shrunken even after the cage was removed.

Agree on paying attention to one's body. It's not like there's going to be a lot of official research out there...just what we've learned from other people's experiences and what we learn from our own. I can imagine there possibly being some linkage between extended periods of lockup without any opportunity to release and have an erection and the possibility of the penis not fully bouncing back, but I can also imagine a bit of that being fantasy for some guys or even the power of the mind. We know there are lots of submissive guys (I see a bit of it in what you've said subguy80, that are excited by the notion of their penis shrinking and being further minimized I their relationship with their wife.

[bradisalpha]

I've been engaging in and reading about chastity play for over 15 years now and by no means is what you're claiming a consensus of either doctors or people active in the lifestyle. Years ago, I did three months without being unlocked, with absolutely no issues. Many men have found the exact opposite actually. When they are released, their erections are stronger than what they are previously used to. What you're presenting as something you're "sure" of, simply isn't fact.

I think the longest period of time I went being caged was about a week. The only change I noticed is that I began to get fewer erections during the night, but it didn't negatively affect my erections after removal.

I've also talked to a couple of guys who used to come to those BDSM parties that Bob hosted. One guy had gone for six months. Like anything, I suppose we need to listen to our bodies and take it off if it's harming our dicks. The one guy did say that he thought his penis had become a bit smaller and more inclined to stay shrunken even after the cage was removed.

Agree on paying attention to one's body. It's not like there's going to be a lot of official research out there...just what we've learned from other people's experiences and what we learn from our own. I can imagine there possibly being some linkage between extended periods of lockup without any opportunity to release and have an erection and the possibility of the penis not fully bouncing back, but I can also imagine a bit of that being fantasy for some guys or even the power of the mind. We know there are lots of submissive guys (I see a bit of it in what you've said subguy80, that are excited by the notion of their penis shrinking and being further minimized I their relationship with their wife.

The strongest factor is the power of the mind. Once you are caged and accept that you are not able to function as an Alpha BF does, your mind takes over much of the arousal from your dickie... the shrinkage then is due from being trained to remain soft by the cage. It becomes a frame of mind. However, once that frame of mind changes, it will go back to normal !!

The goal I see and enjoy is using caging to create that frame of mind and show his submission in his size... and KEEP him there.. a very common cuckold condition.

Brad

[subguy80]

The strongest factor is the power of the mind. Once you are caged and accept that you are not able to function as an Alpha BF does, your mind takes over much of the arousal from your dickie... The goal I see and enjoy is using caging to create that frame of mind and show his submission in his size... and KEEP him there.. a very common cuckold condition. Brad

Brad’s observations are certainly true for me. The mental aspect of being caged and the power dynamics of who controls the keys are the “mind games” that I love. As opposed to 24/7, I enjoy the sporadic use of the cage as an element of surprise, to be used “selectively” on me, for greater effect.

An example: A couple of weeks ago Sarah told me she would be sleeping with me that particular night. I was looking forward to getting a blow job or hand job. It had been a while. As I was getting ready for bed, Jamal came into my room and dangled his set of keys in front of me. He didn’t have to say anything. I put the cage on, he locked it and that put my dick out of commission for the night. Sarah had her own set, but she honored his wishes and left me caged. I was deflated and disappointed at first, but quickly adjusted my attitude. As I cuddled and held her in bed, my dick shrunken into a metal cage, I realized that the power call he just made was more intense than my need to get off. The next time I did jack off, a couple days later, I did it fantasizing about that look on his face as he dangled those keys. That’s the power of being caged for me.

[frank r]

The strongest factor is the power of the mind. Once you are caged and accept that you are not able to function as an Alpha BF does, your mind takes over much of the arousal from your dickie... The goal I see and enjoy is using caging to create that frame of mind and show his submission in his size... and KEEP him there.. a very common cuckold condition. Brad

Brad’s observations are certainly true for me. The mental aspect of being caged and the power dynamics of who controls the keys are the “mind games” that I love. As opposed to 24/7, I enjoy the sporadic use of the cage as an element of surprise, to be used “selectively” on me, for greater effect.

An example: A couple of weeks ago Sarah told me she would be sleeping with me that particular night. I was looking forward to getting a blow job or hand job. It had been a while. As I was getting ready for bed, Jamal came into my room and dangled his set of keys in front of me. He didn’t have to say anything. I put the cage on, he locked it and that put my dick out of commission for the night. Sarah had her own set, but she honored his wishes and left me caged. I was deflated and disappointed at first, but quickly adjusted my attitude. As I cuddled and held her in bed, my dick shrunken into a metal cage, I realized that the power call he just made was more intense than my need to get off. The next time I did jack off, a couple days later, I did it fantasizing about that look on his face as he dangled those keys. That’s the power of being caged for me.

Subguy80ly

Those moments when Sir Jamal takes change and silently shows his control of both your wife and you.Confess how many times since that moment when not caged and alone the image of his face as he dangled those keys fill your brain and harden your smaller than his cock? So hot !

frankie

[SutterKane]

Power exchange is a powerful erotic tool, if you can handle it. Power exchange between the cuck/hotwife and the cuck/Bull. Giving control to another person over you sexuality can be terrifying and erotic at the same time!

[Suchen Zucker]

The strongest factor is the power of the mind. Once you are caged and accept that you are not able to function as an Alpha BF does, your mind takes over much of the arousal from your dickie... The goal I see and enjoy is using caging to create that frame of mind and show his submission in his size... and KEEP him there.. a very common cuckold condition. Brad

Brad’s observations are certainly true for me. The mental aspect of being caged and the power dynamics of who controls the keys are the “mind games” that I love. As opposed to 24/7, I enjoy the sporadic use of the cage as an element of surprise, to be used “selectively” on me, for greater effect.

An example: A couple of weeks ago Sarah told me she would be sleeping with me that particular night. I was looking forward to getting a blow job or hand job. It had been a while. As I was getting ready for bed, Jamal came into my room and dangled his set of keys in front of me. He didn’t have to say anything. I put the cage on, he locked it and that put my dick out of commission for the night. Sarah had her own set, but she honored his wishes and left me caged. I was deflated and disappointed at first, but quickly adjusted my attitude. As I cuddled and held her in bed, my dick shrunken into a metal cage, I realized that the power call he just made was more intense than my need to get off. The next time I did jack off, a couple of days later, I did it fantasizing about that look on his face as he dangled those keys. That’s the power of being caged for me.

That's what I was talking about allowing another man into your home.

You graciously gave up your wife AND the master bedroom. But that's not enough for him. Faced with sleeping alone he struts into the guest bedroom where you have taken refuge and like a prison warden with his set of keys, interjects himself into your private life for the evening.

I understand that your wife "honoring" his wishes by pissing all over yours was exciting masochistically, but what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

The next day you and she could have shared a conspiratorial secret smile together instead of what must have been separate thoughts of what happened that night.

Would her secretly making passionate love with you that night not have been a more satisfying bonding experience for you both instead of what occurred?

Does she obtain satisfaction from watching you "bend the knee" and surrender her precious body over to another man?

Do you worry that she would rather have been in his arms that night, and was only in your bed out of a sense of guilt or duty to you as the father of her children?

Was it all her idea to begin with and the conspiratorial smile the next morning between her and Jamal?

[rspanked]

The strongest factor is the power of the mind. Once you are caged and accept that you are not able to function as an Alpha BF does, your mind takes over much of the arousal from your dickie... The goal I see and enjoy is using caging to create that frame of mind and show his submission in his size... and KEEP him there.. a very common cuckold condition. Brad

Brad’s observations are certainly true for me. The mental aspect of being caged and the power dynamics of who controls the keys are the “mind games” that I love. As opposed to 24/7, I enjoy the sporadic use of the cage as an element of surprise, to be used “selectively” on me, for greater effect.

An example: A couple of weeks ago Sarah told me she would be sleeping with me that particular night. I was looking forward to getting a blow job or hand job. It had been a while. As I was getting ready for bed, Jamal came into my room and dangled his set of keys in front of me. He didn’t have to say anything. I put the cage on, he locked it and that put my dick out of commission for the night. Sarah had her own set, but she honored his wishes and left me caged. I was deflated and disappointed at first, but quickly adjusted my attitude. As I cuddled and held her in bed, my dick shrunken into a metal cage, I realized that the power call he just made was more intense than my need to get off. The next time I did jack off, a couple of days later, I did it fantasizing about that look on his face as he dangled those keys. That’s the power of being caged for me.

That's what I was talking about allowing another man into your home.

You graciously gave up your wife AND the master bedroom. But that's not enough for him. Faced with sleeping alone he struts into the guest bedroom where you have taken refuge and like a prison warden with his set of keys, interjects himself into your private life for the evening.

I understand that your wife "honoring" his wishes by pissing all over yours was exciting masochistically, but what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

The next day you and she could have shared a secret smile instead of bearing your uncomfortable humiliation.

Would her secretly making passionate love with you that night not have been a more satisfying bonding experience for you both instead of what occurred?

Does she obtain satisfaction from watching you "bend the knee" and surrender her precious body over to another man?

Do you worry that she would rather have been in his arms that night, and was only in your bed out of a sense of guilt or duty to you?

Was it all her idea to begin with?

A good bull understands what excites the couple they're with and based on subguy80's post, it seems likely that that's exactly what Jamal is doing. Subguy80 and Sarah have chosen to give him control because they're excited by giving over power to him. He's not taking more than they've chosen to give him... he's playing the role they want and trust him to play.

[Xalar11]

Well, I wouldn’t have formulated it as drasticly as @Suchen Zucker, but he asked some interesting questions, in my opinion.

What's indeed a little concerning, from my perspective, is the seemingly lack of a huge sexual desire from Sarah for you. With that I mean the lack of desire to get fucked by you or make passionately love with you, whatever you want to call it.

[wannabecUKold]

what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

I don't think that would have worked at all. After all, at any time Sarah and Subguy can end the arrangement with Jamal. But the deal, the game, the rule is that Jamal has control. Being unexpectedly ordered to cage up just when you are hot to ejaculate must have been exquisitely frustrating. So imagine how hot that must have made touching Sarah that night and denied sex. Masterly.

[rspanked]

what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

I don't think that would have worked at all. After all, at any time Sarah and Subguy can end the arrangement with Jamal. But the deal, the game, the rule is that Jamal has control. Being unexpectedly ordered to cage up just when you are hot to ejaculate must have been exquisitely frustrating. So imagine how hot that must have made touching Sarah that night and denied sex. Masterly.

Agreed. It really misses the point of the dynamic. This is the game they're currently playing. Sarah loves subguy80 deeply and understands the excitement he gets from cuckolding, denial etc. By unlocking him she would undermine the very system that is exciting to both of them and take away the realism of what they're doing.

[frank r]

what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

I don't think that would have worked at all. After all, at any time Sarah and Subguy can end the arrangement with Jamal. But the deal, the game, the rule is that Jamal has control. Being unexpectedly ordered to cage up just when you are hot to ejaculate must have been exquisitely frustrating. So imagine how hot that must have made touching Sarah that night and denied sex. Masterly.

Agreed. It really misses the point of the dynamic. This is the game they're currently playing. Sarah loves subguy80 deeply and understands the excitement he gets from cuckolding, denial etc. By unlocking him she would undermine the very system that is exciting to both of them and take away the realism of what they're doing.

RSPANKED YOU ARE SO RIGHT.... THE FACT THAT MY BETH LOVES ME DEEPLY AND BOTH ENJOYS THE FREEDOM AS WELL AS FEEDING ME THE EXCITEMENT OF LETTING AND ALLOWING ME THE HEAT AND THE PAIN OF SUBMISSION TO HER LOVER.

frankie

[subguy80]

I try and respond to every question that you guys raise. In this case, I think it’s a better strategy to re-post a PM that Sutter Kane sent to me. I asked for his permission to post it here in the open forum because his comments hit on many of the urges and feelings that I’m dealing with right now. I guess I’m heading down the path of “extreme cuckolding” and some of the implications are apparently “concerning” to some. I understand that. Rest assured that Sarah and I give each "next step" a lot of thought. Thanks, Sutter, for the following:

“I see you as a deeply submissive beta that enjoys some lite sexual humiliation. Jamal seems to trigger your beta cuck side very much. You respect him and I think that may have started to turn into needing him for what he does for Sarah and what he's starting to do to you. I think you dread his moving back out in a few weeks because these last few have made you happy and content in ways you never expected and just feels "right" to you now.

Think about how much Jamal has grown over the last year. He could have gone off the deep end and either ignored you as he took your wife or ground you down with cruelty and contempt. But he didn't. He treated both you and Sarah with respect and kindness, This shows the kind of man that he is. Think of the power he feels fucking a white man's willing wife in front of him as the white man kneels and watches at his feet. For a young black man it must take a great deal of maturity to not let that go to his head.

The three of you have a real chance to forge something new and wonderful if you all can communicate what you want and find common ground for this kind of love.

If you reflect on what I said about your place in their sexual relationship, where, in your heart of hearts, do you truly want this to go with Jamal? Doesn't some part of you want to experience Jamal the way that Sarah does? To have him take you and use you for his need? To receive his big black cock while Sarah watches him take you? To have him take turns with you and Sarah, side by side, looking into each other’s eyes as you each know what it’s like to be taken by his big cock while the other watches? To be owned as a couple by a Bull?

Frankie (frank r) has told us all how powerful being taken by Sir while looking into his Beth's eyes and holding her hand. Can you say that has no appeal to you? To be taken to that level of submission? By her side? To finally know what she feels when he's inside her?

If the answer is yes, then you should ask Sarah to let Jamal know that you want this very much. Have her find out if Jamal is willing to have you, teach you and train you. If he is, then go before both of them and ask for this and tell them how much this will mean for you. Tell him how it will seal your place within this poly triad and make you proud to be taken by him.

I might be wrong about what I see as your need for this. But I think this is what you really want. Whether you’re ready for it, only you can say.” Sutter Kane

[frank r]

subguy80

If that is indeed what you want, perhaps you , if you feel you and he are on terms to have that chat, should voice the feelings you have about it.
I know for whatever others may think i gave up in submission to SIR, trust me the gains are worth it. Good luck in any event

frankie
aka BetaBoy

[frank r]

subguy80

If that is indeed what you want, perhaps you , if you feel you and he are on terms to have that chat, should voice the feelings you have about it.
I know for whatever others may think i gave up in submission to SIR, trust me the gains are worth it. Good luck in any event

frankie
aka BetaBoy

[Lucky Dog]

I try and respond to every question that you guys raise. In this case, I think it’s a better strategy to re-post a PM that Sutter Kane sent to me. I asked for his permission to post it here in the open forum because his comments hit on many of the urges and feelings that I’m dealing with right now. I guess I’m heading down the path of “extreme cuckolding” and some of the implications are apparently “concerning” to some. I understand that. Rest assured that Sarah and I give each "next step" a lot of thought. Thanks, Sutter, for the following:

“I see you as a deeply submissive beta that enjoys some lite sexual humiliation. Jamal seems to trigger your beta cuck side very much. You respect him and I think that may have started to turn into needing him for what he does for Sarah and what he's starting to do to you. I think you dread his moving back out in a few weeks because these last few have made you happy and content in ways you never expected and just feels "right" to you now.

Think about how much Jamal has grown over the last year. He could have gone off the deep end and either ignored you as he took your wife or ground you down with cruelty and contempt. But he didn't. He treated both you and Sarah with respect and kindness, This shows the kind of man that he is. Think of the power he feels fucking a white man's willing wife in front of him as the white man kneels and watches at his feet. For a young black man it must take a great deal of maturity to not let that go to his head.

The three of you have a real chance to forge something new and wonderful if you all can communicate what you want and find common ground for this kind of love.

If you reflect on what I said about your place in their sexual relationship, where, in your heart of hearts, do you truly want this to go with Jamal? Doesn't some part of you want to experience Jamal the way that Sarah does? To have him take you and use you for his need? To receive his big black cock while Sarah watches him take you? To have him take turns with you and Sarah, side by side, looking into each other’s eyes as you each know what it’s like to be taken by his big cock while the other watches? To be owned as a couple by a Bull?

Frankie (frank r) has told us all how powerful being taken by Sir while looking into his Beth's eyes and holding her hand. Can you say that has no appeal to you? To be taken to that level of submission? By her side? To finally know what she feels when he's inside her?

If the answer is yes, then you should ask Sarah to let Jamal know that you want this very much. Have her find out if Jamal is willing to have you, teach you and train you. If he is, then go before both of them and ask for this and tell them how much this will mean for you. Tell him how it will seal your place within this poly triad and make you proud to be taken by him.

I might be wrong about what I see as your need for this. But I think this is what you really want. Whether you’re ready for it, only you can say.” Sutter Kane

Once again, it seems Sutter Kane has been able to see the emotional aspects of cuckolding and make them clear in a way that validates your relationship. It's nice to see it this way - both you and your wife are getting what you want, in the context of a loving marriage. How sad if you weren't able to enjoy your lives in this way because of unnecessary fears of how others see you.

This is so different, IMHO, than those situations where the husband is losing his wife because the "bull" gives the wife not only the sex she needs, but manages to diminish the loving relationship between the spouses. In those situations, it's sad watching the dissolution of the bond between husband and wife.

In your situation, it's easy for us to like Jamal and share your excitement.

[SutterKane]

what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

I don't think that would have worked at all. After all, at any time Sarah and Subguy can end the arrangement with Jamal. But the deal, the game, the rule is that Jamal has control. Being unexpectedly ordered to cage up just when you are hot to ejaculate must have been exquisitely frustrating. So imagine how hot that must have made touching Sarah that night and denied sex. Masterly.

Jamal gave Subguy the best present he could! Ask Subguy if he's mad or upset by what Jamal did. I bet he's not. Jamal is in tune with what his needs are. Jamal cares about his needs and works to meet them. And I bet he gets off on the power that gives him. I bet Sarah might have set the whole thing up just to give them each what they need.

[SutterKane]

what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

I don't think that would have worked at all. After all, at any time Sarah and Subguy can end the arrangement with Jamal. But the deal, the game, the rule is that Jamal has control. Being unexpectedly ordered to cage up just when you are hot to ejaculate must have been exquisitely frustrating. So imagine how hot that must have made touching Sarah that night and denied sex. Masterly.

Agreed. It really misses the point of the dynamic. This is the game they're currently playing. Sarah loves subguy80 deeply and understands the excitement he gets from cuckolding, denial etc. By unlocking him she would undermine the very system that is exciting to both of them and take away the realism of what they're doing.

I think you have a very good understanding of what is going on here! Non cucks never will. When non cucks put themselves in his place, they can only see what they would feel, fear, loss of control, their male ego demanding that it get the gratification it wants NOW! But being a cuck is about, in large part, letting go of those very things and and just being. Putting that fear and ego need into loving her and wanting her happiness above your own so much that you are will to be the "lesser" partner and take on the sub roll. Most of us cucks didn't start out this way. We were hotwife husbands. But the more our wives fucked other men, the more we saw how that made our wives happy, how they started to glow and come alive, the more we wanted them to have what it gave them, even if it meant "losing" more of them to other, better men that meet their sexual needs better than we can. Wanting to show the depth of our love and devotion to them by giving up control of our sexuality to them, and sometime that means to their Bull's as well. You have to be deeply in love and pretty fucking strong to handle all the deep, sometime's deeply upsetting feeling that being a cuck brings on. Keep calm and cuck on!

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what if she had secretly removed your cage after he went to sleep and fucked you senselessly instead? She becomes your partner in crime...

I don't think that would have worked at all. After all, at any time Sarah and Subguy can end the arrangement with Jamal. But the deal, the game, the rule is that Jamal has control. Being unexpectedly ordered to cage up just when you are hot to ejaculate must have been exquisitely frustrating. So imagine how hot that must have made touching Sarah that night and denied sex. Masterly.

Agreed. It really misses the point of the dynamic. This is the game they're currently playing. Sarah loves subguy80 deeply and understands the excitement he gets from cuckolding, denial etc. By unlocking him she would undermine the very system that is exciting to both of them and take away the realism of what they're doing.

I think you have a very good understanding of what is going on here! Non cucks never will. When non cucks put themselves in his place, they can only see what they would feel, fear, loss of control, their male ego demanding that it get the gratification it wants NOW! But being a cuck is about, in large part, letting go of those very things and and just being. Putting that fear and ego need into loving her and wanting her happiness above your own so much that you are will to be the "lesser" partner and take on the sub roll. Most of us cucks didn't start out this way. We were hotwife husbands. But the more our wives fucked other men, the more we saw how that made our wives happy, how they started to glow and come alive, the more we wanted them to have what it gave them, even if it meant "losing" more of them to other, better men that meet their sexual needs better than we can. Wanting to show the depth of our love and devotion to them by giving up control of our sexuality to them, and sometime that means to their Bull's as well. You have to be deeply in love and pretty fucking strong to handle all the deep, sometime's deeply upsetting feeling that being a cuck brings on. Keep calm and cuck on!

Absolutely. You also need to feel completely confident in the foundation of your relationship, to know you're safe letting go of control of it (which turns so many of us on). For myself, I trust M 100% and know that we have each other's best interests at heart at all times, so I can feel safe in the excitement of being led to some deep, dark, kinky places. Based on what we can know from what is shared with us, I believe subguy80 is in a very similar position that way.