It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[veub]

In my opinion 90% of the stories on here are fake. Only a handful of posters are real. Which ones? Who knows? I'm not going to say this story is in either category until it is proven to me to be either. I only follow threads that I feel are real. Once determined otherwise I bail out. I'm still here.

I honestly believe most members that post here are genuine and honestly living the lives they claim and describe through their experiences.

But, I often wonder how many sexless, non-committed fantasy seekers are here feeding and living off other’s experiences just to get off? Doesn’t matter to me and to each their own. Definitely not judging, but I have seen many posters here question themselves and why they post here because of the extreme “out there” suggestions coming from commenters that push beyond their original intent to simply share basic experiences.

As we’ve seen, when w770 posts it sure feels real and am-axing. Nothing beyond their marital sexual exploration. Him sharing it is awesome. Speculation or creating fictitious rumors or fictional fantasies might be what fuels the perception that Cuckcuckgoose mentions as real or not believable posters.

I wish Lana and w the very best and hope they continue to post on their terms not the restless opinions of the viewers.

At different times 3 frequent posters, including one of the "revered" hotwives, admitted that most of their posts were fantasies in PMs.
Personally, I think the estimate of 90% fake is too low: outright fiction or writings so exaggerated that they are completely unreal.

[Bart77]

I’m still inclined to believe 2 things - W is legit, and his wife is pregnant by another guy. It’s going to be a very interesting year in their household…

[afagehi7]

Just a reminder that calling people out without direct evidence is against the rules. If you have evidence please report it to the admins or just move on and let the others enjoy the thread.

[william70]

Love the story line and following the fantasy. I started reading this story in the very beginning. I've never entertained the thought that it was real. IMHO... There have been too many perfect men, too many perfect cocks, too many easy circumstances, too many, too many, too many. Again, IMHO w770 is a 40 yr. old man living in his mom's basement. It's still been a good read.

[sandy691196]

W770 and L didn't meet perfect men all the time.

For the long time that W770 has posted, there has been a rather low body count. Unlike many other threads where the numbers make it look like a WWI infantry charge!

So relatively high performing series of - how many? 4? And now this Tyler guy. Over 3 odd years?

Adam guy was far from perfect. He was/is a pest. A "pinche pendejo"!
If OP wanted to spin a tale, he needn't have brought in a GF. And if he brought in a GF, he could have crafted a cheating angle! How hot would that be? Maybe even worked this 2nd pregnancy spiel around Adam.

But OP didn't do that. It all sounds perfectly naturally flowing, given the nature and characters of folks that have emerged through the pages.

[trecital]

W770 and L didn't meet perfect men all the time.

For the long time that W770 has posted, there has been a rather low body count. Unlike many other threads where the numbers make it look like a WWI infantry charge!

So relatively high performing series of - how many? 4? And now this Tyler guy. Over 3 odd years?

Adam guy was far from perfect. He was/is a pest. A "pinche pendejo"!
If OP wanted to spin a tale, he needn't have brought in a GF. And if he brought in a GF, he could have crafted a cheating angle! How hot would that be? Maybe even worked this 2nd pregnancy spiel around Adam.

But OP didn't do that. It all sounds perfectly naturally flowing, given the nature and characters of folks that have emerged through the pages.

"there has been a rather low body count" Depends on your definition of 'low body count'. There might not have been as many 'bodies' as some threads, but I would think it is much higher than most people encounter.

"So relatively high performing series of - how many? 4? And now this Tyler guy. Over 3 odd years?

I think you need to go back and re-read the thread. There is more than 4. And a simple look at the first page of the thread will show you that the first post by w770 was late November 2022. So the thread covers only just over 2 years. And the vast majority of the 'action' takes place in the first year.

"It all sounds perfectly naturally flowing" To you....

I'll make it clear.....I'm not expressing an opinion of whether this thread is true or not.
But your 'justification' of it could be applied to any good story....of fiction or non fiction, so is therefore useless as any sort of 'proof' one way or another. Stop trying to 'prove' a story, and just let the OP get on with posting it so that everyone can enjoy reading it.

And just for extra clarity, I'm not in favour of having stories removed and/or authors banned for posting them. I enjoy reading a well written story, as much as anyone else does.

[Rogueuser1]

W770 and L didn't meet perfect men all the time.

For the long time that W770 has posted, there has been a rather low body count. Unlike many other threads where the numbers make it look like a WWI infantry charge!

So relatively high performing series of - how many? 4? And now this Tyler guy. Over 3 odd years?

Adam guy was far from perfect. He was/is a pest. A "pinche pendejo"!
If OP wanted to spin a tale, he needn't have brought in a GF. And if he brought in a GF, he could have crafted a cheating angle! How hot would that be? Maybe even worked this 2nd pregnancy spiel around Adam.

But OP didn't do that. It all sounds perfectly naturally flowing, given the nature and characters of folks that have emerged through the pages.

"there has been a rather low body count" Depends on your definition of 'low body count'. There might not have been as many 'bodies' as some threads, but I would think it is much higher than most people encounter.

"So relatively high performing series of - how many? 4? And now this Tyler guy. Over 3 odd years?

I think you need to go back and re-read the thread. There is more than 4. And a simple look at the first page of the thread will show you that the first post by w770 was late November 2022. So the thread covers only just over 2 years. And the vast majority of the 'action' takes place in the first year.

"It all sounds perfectly naturally flowing" To you....

I'll make it clear.....I'm not expressing an opinion of whether this thread is true or not.
But your 'justification' of it could be applied to any good story....of fiction or non fiction, so is therefore useless as any sort of 'proof' one way or another. Stop trying to 'prove' a story, and just let the OP get on with posting it so that everyone can enjoy reading it.

And just for extra clarity, I'm not in favour of having stories removed and/or authors banned for posting them. I enjoy reading a well written story, as much as anyone else does.

Please just stop - the two of you don't need to take over this great thread debating this.

[leander99]

(this now deleted comment was referring to forum rule 2.1: Thou shalt not call out another user for well written fiction presented as fact)

[pixmangurn]

^^^^THIS!^^^^

[trecital]

I agree with the above
I had previously asked sandy691196 to discuss/argue about things by pm, but he has not taken up this offer.
It appears that he wants to try to 'prove' that this and other story threads are true. That isn't required, and is impossible anyway. The rules state that stories shouldn't be called out as untrue, without proof. Fair enough, I understand the reason why, and I apologise if any criticism I've made about the story comes across as 'calling out'.
I don't want threads like this to be ruined, as I have enjoyed reading it, especially in the early days.

But when I read such ridiculous claims as this person has made I feel some justification in refuting them.
I had already asked this person, in another thread, to refrain from his 'campaign', and allow normal comment to continue, but he chose not to. My offer to sandy691196 to debate/argue about things via pm still stands.

I have made my point and will not comment further.
Thank you for your understanding.

[william70]

I have been properly warned. Seems like I write without thinking. I forget that some opinions are not freely welcomed here. Hense "the rules". Please except my apology.

[sandy691196]

I will continue posting as per forum guidelines and rules.
I am under no obligation to pander to individual egoes or sense of entitlement by wasting time on PMs.

Anyone is free to post opinions on OHW threads without impinging on rules and common sense decency.

Amen.

[w770]

Hi everyone, and Happy New Year.

I found some time today where there was an unexpected lull in work just at the same time that the baby is taking a nap, so I thought I would reply to some of the posts made. Apologies for not being able to go through each and do a direct reply as I often like doing, because, as most parents to young children know, the nap can end at any moment and then your entire schedule gets rearranged.

I first wanted to address seeing the doctor with Lana. I didn't realize that it wasn't the norm to go in with your partner, as whenever I go to the doctor, I go by myself, and when Lana needs to see the doctor, she always wants me to take her and go to see the doctor with her. In fact, I had to visit the doctor yesterday as I've been dealing with a pretty horrid cough for the last few days, and as I was in the waiting room, I saw a couple, and when the girl was called in, her guy just stayed in his chair. So maybe it's a bit abnormal for Lana to want me to go with her every time, but it's mainly because she tends to blank when the doctor asks her questions, and she always looks at me to ask the questions she's forgotten or tell the doctor the details that she might find herself tongue tied with. But, interesting to know I suppose.

The other issue I saw discussed a lot was the realism of what's unfolded in the last few months for Lana and myself. This is a bit of an undertaking for me to explain, and I hope some of you can understand - but there are a lot of tightropes that I'm having to walk, making sure to respect certain things that Lana wishes for me to keep private and also respecting this forum enough to give enough detail of our lives. I also suspect that there is a particular effect of having a forum and thread so specifically dedicated to one aspect of our lives, which leads to a sort of amplification effect, making it perhaps seem that this lifestyle takes up a lot more of our lives and our personalities than other areas. I've tried to expand on other mundane details of our lives at times to round both Lana and myself out as people, but it's a balance between respecting this forum being focused on the lifestyle and also giving everyone an idea of our lives.

One of the aspects of Lana's personality that I've touched upon before has been her desire to make me happy and in part, turn me on. Even before we started into this lifestyle, I've noticed that her stories of guys she's been with in the past have changed. For example, while making love, she would tell me about a particular one night stand in college and all of the positions they had sex in, but years later, when we were just speaking on the same guy and one night stand, I would question her about it and she would respond with something like, "what are you talking about? That never happened." So I realize that some of the things she may tell me are for my benefit, but I've learned to just take it all in and not call her out on any inconsistencies. In relating that to current times, I have no idea if Tyler was in fact "Adam-sized" but I understand that she may be telling me what I wanted to hear. Ultimately, I don't see the point in making it an issue.

In regards to the other aspects of our lives and personalities that I never really get into, like I mentioned, this lifestyle, while it may seem at times like the center of our lives, actually is a very small part of the things we focus on on most days. For both of us, work tends to take a lot of that bandwidth along with being parents, but aside from that, the biggest time suck has been setting up charities and volunteer organizations, which take up a lot of our free time. In terms of our personalities, I started to sense that this thread has characterized us as sex-crazed, when in fact, even at the peak of this rather strange time that we've entered into the lifestyle, it doesn't particularly rank that high of things we talk about on a day to day basis. Lately for me, I've been getting more into gardening and being self sustainable as I have a somewhat conspiratorial mind and am under the impression that we'll have to fend for ourselves at some point in the near future. Whereas Lana has been much more into some show on Netflix called the Crown lately. So after work, we tend to unwind, try our best to be good parents, while I try and tell her my latest conspiracy theories and she recaps me on her Crown show. Like I've alluded to before, we're pretty boring people.

I also saw that there were posts concerning pictures of Lana. I will say now, there are a handful of people that have seen pictures of myself and Lana. The fact that it hasn't become wider knowledge tells me that my instincts on who I can trust was accurate. But beyond a very small handful of people who I have cultivated an amount of trust and rapport with, I want to continue to respect Lana's wishes of "staying off the internet." Honestly, though, it would be quite a turn on to post pictures of her and hearing how badly some guys want to fuck her, but that's just not the world we're in.

Update: So Lana should be getting her period in a few days, and she has expressed a lot of apprehension to me about being late. I've put on a brave face but it also is a bit nerve wracking to me as well. I've already told her that we're going to be fine no matter what happens, but that doesn't seem to relax her too much.

I originally wanted to make this post a bit more substantive, but I'm hearing my work email notification sound a bunch so I should get to those. Hope 2025 is going well for everyone.

[Luigical1931]

Thanks for the update W.

Her desire to turn you on is a great one. She may actually try to act out the things that turn you on when she’s with somebody, to really hit home the truth. Hopefully there’s not too many fabrications by her, but I get it.

The self-sustainable part, me and a friend share seeds… now that sounds dodgy. We both are into growing things and split what seeds we have half and half each year. Always looks a bit dodgy when I go out to his car and pass him a small package of seeds (looks like a drug deal going on).

Took up the hobby during lockdown and haven’t stopped since.

All the best for the new year and if you want any tips on what you grow, give me a shout (I will try my best, but a lot is still trial and error)

Feel like this whole post has been an innuendo about Lana being pregnant. That wasn’t the case. Hopefully she starts her period soon and you two can plan some time for a second baby if that’s what you guys want, without the headache of ‘is it mine’

[Cuckcuckgoose1]

Hi everyone, and Happy New Year.

I found some time today where there was an unexpected lull in work just at the same time that the baby is taking a nap, so I thought I would reply to some of the posts made. Apologies for not being able to go through each and do a direct reply as I often like doing, because, as most parents to young children know, the nap can end at any moment and then your entire schedule gets rearranged.

I first wanted to address seeing the doctor with Lana. I didn't realize that it wasn't the norm to go in with your partner, as whenever I go to the doctor, I go by myself, and when Lana needs to see the doctor, she always wants me to take her and go to see the doctor with her. In fact, I had to visit the doctor yesterday as I've been dealing with a pretty horrid cough for the last few days, and as I was in the waiting room, I saw a couple, and when the girl was called in, her guy just stayed in his chair. So maybe it's a bit abnormal for Lana to want me to go with her every time, but it's mainly because she tends to blank when the doctor asks her questions, and she always looks at me to ask the questions she's forgotten or tell the doctor the details that she might find herself tongue tied with. But, interesting to know I suppose.

The other issue I saw discussed a lot was the realism of what's unfolded in the last few months for Lana and myself. This is a bit of an undertaking for me to explain, and I hope some of you can understand - but there are a lot of tightropes that I'm having to walk, making sure to respect certain things that Lana wishes for me to keep private and also respecting this forum enough to give enough detail of our lives. I also suspect that there is a particular effect of having a forum and thread so specifically dedicated to one aspect of our lives, which leads to a sort of amplification effect, making it perhaps seem that this lifestyle takes up a lot more of our lives and our personalities than other areas. I've tried to expand on other mundane details of our lives at times to round both Lana and myself out as people, but it's a balance between respecting this forum being focused on the lifestyle and also giving everyone an idea of our lives.

One of the aspects of Lana's personality that I've touched upon before has been her desire to make me happy and in part, turn me on. Even before we started into this lifestyle, I've noticed that her stories of guys she's been with in the past have changed. For example, while making love, she would tell me about a particular one night stand in college and all of the positions they had sex in, but years later, when we were just speaking on the same guy and one night stand, I would question her about it and she would respond with something like, "what are you talking about? That never happened." So I realize that some of the things she may tell me are for my benefit, but I've learned to just take it all in and not call her out on any inconsistencies. In relating that to current times, I have no idea if Tyler was in fact "Adam-sized" but I understand that she may be telling me what I wanted to hear. Ultimately, I don't see the point in making it an issue.

In regards to the other aspects of our lives and personalities that I never really get into, like I mentioned, this lifestyle, while it may seem at times like the center of our lives, actually is a very small part of the things we focus on on most days. For both of us, work tends to take a lot of that bandwidth along with being parents, but aside from that, the biggest time suck has been setting up charities and volunteer organizations, which take up a lot of our free time. In terms of our personalities, I started to sense that this thread has characterized us as sex-crazed, when in fact, even at the peak of this rather strange time that we've entered into the lifestyle, it doesn't particularly rank that high of things we talk about on a day to day basis. Lately for me, I've been getting more into gardening and being self sustainable as I have a somewhat conspiratorial mind and am under the impression that we'll have to fend for ourselves at some point in the near future. Whereas Lana has been much more into some show on Netflix called the Crown lately. So after work, we tend to unwind, try our best to be good parents, while I try and tell her my latest conspiracy theories and she recaps me on her Crown show. Like I've alluded to before, we're pretty boring people.

I also saw that there were posts concerning pictures of Lana. I will say now, there are a handful of people that have seen pictures of myself and Lana. The fact that it hasn't become wider knowledge tells me that my instincts on who I can trust was accurate. But beyond a very small handful of people who I have cultivated an amount of trust and rapport with, I want to continue to respect Lana's wishes of "staying off the internet." Honestly, though, it would be quite a turn on to post pictures of her and hearing how badly some guys want to fuck her, but that's just not the world we're in.

Update: So Lana should be getting her period in a few days, and she has expressed a lot of apprehension to me about being late. I've put on a brave face but it also is a bit nerve wracking to me as well. I've already told her that we're going to be fine no matter what happens, but that doesn't seem to relax her too much.

I originally wanted to make this post a bit more substantive, but I'm hearing my work email notification sound a bunch so I should get to those. Hope 2025 is going well for everyone.

I'm a grower as well. You never know what the future will throw at us.

[edgedndenied]

W
Thanks for the update. Did Shawn come out for the holidays? If so was there any interactions with him

[venus-can99]

Thanks for the "boring" update W - I think you have done a great job of explaining that Lana and you are just ordinary people with daily chores and activities like most of us and that your indulgance in hw/cuck forms a tiny part of your lives.
Hope 2025 turns out to be a wonderful year for you and your wonderful family and friends.

[w770]

Thanks for the update W.

Her desire to turn you on is a great one. She may actually try to act out the things that turn you on when she’s with somebody, to really hit home the truth. Hopefully there’s not too many fabrications by her, but I get it.

The self-sustainable part, me and a friend share seeds… now that sounds dodgy. We both are into growing things and split what seeds we have half and half each year. Always looks a bit dodgy when I go out to his car and pass him a small package of seeds (looks like a drug deal going on).

Took up the hobby during lockdown and haven’t stopped since.

All the best for the new year and if you want any tips on what you grow, give me a shout (I will try my best, but a lot is still trial and error)

Feel like this whole post has been an innuendo about Lana being pregnant. That wasn’t the case. Hopefully she starts her period soon and you two can plan some time for a second baby if that’s what you guys want, without the headache of ‘is it mine’

I agree that it's great that she tries hard to turn me on, as she's expressed guilt in certain ways that in this lifestyle, she gets to be the one to have "all the fun" even though I've told her that I love my part in it all. But I think it's a part of her personality that will do whatever she can do to make me able to get the fullest out of the experience.

As far as what I've been growing, I've been focused a lot on tomatoes for the time being. I'm learning about "potting up" lately and the best way to move from your smaller initial grow to a larger pot in order to increase the yield. I'm also not sure how feasible this will be given the cold temps coming for our part of the States soon.

Thank you for the well wishes on our plans for baby #2. We've been making love regularly lately, cut short by my getting sick, so we shall see in a few days if she's late or not.

I'm a grower as well. You never know what the future will throw at us.

Good to know! Any recommendations on best yielding produce? Potatoes would be good, but I think they may require more space than we have.

W
Thanks for the update. Did Shawn come out for the holidays? If so was there any interactions with him

Shawn did come out but only for a few days around New Year's Eve, but it was only so his parents could meet his fiance. New Year's Eve is always big with Lana's family, so we always spend time with her parents and extended family for that holiday, and so we never had the chance to meet up with him.

Thanks for the "boring" update W - I think you have done a great job of explaining that Lana and you are just ordinary people with daily chores and activities like most of us and that your indulgance in hw/cuck forms a tiny part of your lives.
Hope 2025 turns out to be a wonderful year for you and your wonderful family and friends.

Thank you! I hope the best for everyone too this year.

Update: About to wind down with work for the day, then dinner while Lana fills me in on the latest episode of the Crown and I give her my latest theory on the "fog" that's been blanketing the globe, bath time for the baby, then Lana, then myself, take the dog out for a walk, waiting until the baby falls asleep and the love making, only to start again tomorrow.

[venus-can99]

Update: About to wind down with work for the day, then dinner while Lana fills me in on the latest episode of the Crown and I give her my latest theory on the "fog" that's been blanketing the globe, bath time for the baby, then Lana, then myself, take the dog out for a walk, waiting until the baby falls asleep and the love making, only to start again tomorrow.

Ah the fogvid-24 Internet is full of theories and how its making everyone sick and is a plot by globalists (pentaverate? ). Maybe you came down with fogvid-24 as well.
Good luck with the baby #2 making efforts

[sandy691196]

Shawn did come out but only for a few days around New Year's Eve, but it was only so his parents could meet his fiance. New Year's Eve is always big with Lana's family, so we always spend time with her parents and extended family for that holiday, and so we never had the chance to meet up with him.

And to think that this was the guy (Shawn) with whom Lana was about to get into a steady BF / GF relationship a while back!

What time and circumstances do to people, their feelings and drives in life!

[trecital]

I'm a grower as well. You never know what the future will throw at us.

I initially thought you were talking about being a 'grower rather than a shower'!

We don't do so much growing (of fruit and veg!) as we used to. But we found that the biggest surprise was the vast improvement in flavour of home grown varieties. Plus the much wider choice of varieties, compared to what is available in the shops. Plus, the benefit of knowing that you haven't sprayed everything within an inch of its life, with god knows what. Biggest revelation in taste was from home grown strawberries, compared to shop bought. Never bought shop varieties again. Similar for tomatoes. Huge number of varieties that can be home grown, compared to the limited boring selection in most shops.

Better stop there, or there'll be demands for a growers sub forum.

p.s. w770, where do you have the space to grow? I was assuming you had an apartment with no garden space.

[w770]

Update: About to wind down with work for the day, then dinner while Lana fills me in on the latest episode of the Crown and I give her my latest theory on the "fog" that's been blanketing the globe, bath time for the baby, then Lana, then myself, take the dog out for a walk, waiting until the baby falls asleep and the love making, only to start again tomorrow.

Ah the fogvid-24 Internet is full of theories and how its making everyone sick and is a plot by globalists (pentaverate? ). Maybe you came down with fogvid-24 as well.
Good luck with the baby #2 making efforts

It's crazy! It was pretty foggy the other week, and I even mentioned it to Lana. "It's really foggy out right now that I can't even see the ocean." (We can normally see the ocean from our balcony). Then, like the dumb dumb I am, I take the dog out for a walk and a few days later, I'm struggling to breathe and coughing up a lung. Then I start seeing videos all over the world about how they're experiencing the same thing. 2025 is going to be a crazy year and all the conspiracy theorists like myself will be looking like psychics!

Shawn did come out but only for a few days around New Year's Eve, but it was only so his parents could meet his fiance. New Year's Eve is always big with Lana's family, so we always spend time with her parents and extended family for that holiday, and so we never had the chance to meet up with him.

And to think that this was the guy (Shawn) with whom Lana was about to get into a steady BF / GF relationship a while back!

What time and circumstances do to people, their feelings and drives in life!

He's grown a LOT since our time with him and he's actually a really sweet guy so I'm not surprised that he found a nice girl and decided to settle down with her.

I'm a grower as well. You never know what the future will throw at us.

I initially thought you were talking about being a 'grower rather than a shower'!

We don't do so much growing (of fruit and veg!) as we used to. But we found that the biggest surprise was the vast improvement in flavour of home grown varieties. Plus the much wider choice of varieties, compared to what is available in the shops. Plus, the benefit of knowing that you haven't sprayed everything within an inch of its life, with god knows what. Biggest revelation in taste was from home grown strawberries, compared to shop bought. Never bought shop varieties again. Similar for tomatoes. Huge number of varieties that can be home grown, compared to the limited boring selection in most shops.

Better stop there, or there'll be demands for a growers sub forum.

p.s. w770, where do you have the space to grow? I was assuming you had an apartment with no garden space.

We do live in a 2 bedroom condo with limited space, but have you heard of the Gardyn? It's essentially a system of vertically arranged tubes that can house 30 plants at the same time. It's pretty cool, but the issue is potting up, which I'm thinking of doing and having those grow onthe balcony, but the cold weather might make that hard.

Update: Slow day at work for me, so I finally get a chance to do the random other things I like to occupy my time with during these lulls like study the crypto markets, videos on drones (Lana got me a cool drone for the holidays), and learning to DJ since I have this strange fascination with mashing together genres that don't really go along together, like classical piano and hip hop. Also, the baby kept Lana up all night so they're still in bed right now, even though it's about noon here, so it's been relatively quiet and peaceful all morning. It's a nice albeit very temporary stillness. Lana mentioned last night how she should be getting her period tomorrow, so it'll be a "pins and needles" sort of day today I'm assuming.

Hope everyone is well. Stay safe everyone! There's been a lot of weird things happening in the world lately.

[Rogueuser1]

Thanks W - hope you are all doing well and thanks for the great updates as always.

If she doesn't start on time try convincing her to let you go down on her - sometimes the contractions of an orgasm will finally get my wife going when she is late which she generally appreciates.

[Bart77]

The wait must be excruciating - and amazingly hot.

[GuruTravelMonkey]

Have you told her something like this: “I understand the natural desire that makes a woman want to feel a bigger man cum inside them, even to conceive with a bigger, stronger man. It’s as it should be—nothing should take away from that experience. Not guilt, not worry. Everything is okay. I’m here and I love you. Thank you for letting me experience the excitement of this journey with you”

Idk - something like that. It sounds as if guilt is gnawing at her when indeed there is no need.

You are solid either way, come what may.