Wife and friend behave like a couple in pub - the start

[skoot1958]

Us men are simple creatures, this meeting was planned sometime ago, Michelle would have seen Dawns name on the invite list, etc

Both woman expressed an interest in meeting a while back (bad you for not arranging) now they have directly contact, it may have been a bit awkward, to start with, but Dawn may have broken the glass by saying do your enjoy fucking my husband, your need to ask Dawn


The girls will get to know each other, I would not put it past Dawn to make a move on Michelle sometime or for you 3 to end up in bed together before the end of the year

As Ray and Dawn are planning a black holiday, could you and Michelle get away for a few days ?

[Freemans892]

Us men are simple creatures, this meeting was planned sometime ago, Michelle would have seen Dawns name on the invite list, etc

Both woman expressed an interest in meeting a while back (bad you for not arranging) now they have directly contact, it may have been a bit awkward, to start with, but Dawn may have broken the glass by saying do your enjoy fucking my husband, your need to ask Dawn


The girls will get to know each other, I would not put it past Dawn to make a move on Michelle sometime or for you 3 to end up in bed together before the end of the year

As Ray and Dawn are planning a black holiday, could you and Michelle get away for a few days ?

With Michelle being head of group procurement for Will’s company, I would have expected Michelle to be involved in the tendering process from the start. Did Dawn give Ocean the dummy pass when she mentioned that Michelle’s counterpart would manage the tendering process?

You are right; Dawn and Michelle mentioned that they wished to meet, but Ocean wasn’t too keen on it. Both parties dropped the matter because both sides’ meeting invites indicated they would meet. As a vendor, especially for services, you always research the individuals from the client side, their background, their position in the company, and who the primary decision-maker is from the client side for an upcoming presentation. So Dawn knew that Michelle was going to be there. The catch-up over coffee was probably Michelle’s idea. How long have sides known they were going to meet? One, two or three weeks?

[ocean]

The main contract was already awarded (instructions from above, which Michelle closed), this is an extension of the primary contract. Michelle and her group were expecting to meet the 2 legal representatives (London based specialists) of Dawn's firm, to discuss expansion and extension of services.
Dawn was not expected at all, so a surprise all round. Obviously Dawn was aware of the meet and piggy backed, suss Michelle out presumably, bit conniving in my view. Had I known - it wouldn't have happened.

The conversation I had with Dawn, which was more forthcoming than mine with Michelle, was that I wasn't mentioned at all. But Michelle did say to me 'She knows (who I am)'. Both did say they got on very well, but Michelle was a bit uncomfortable awaiting the direction of the conversation. Me - I am totally confused, bemused and in need of a good malt.

[54321]

Frankly, it all sounds good to me. The two women need to know they can trust one another and can draw up a 'contract' whereby both parties' interests are protected.

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[Freemans892]

That makes sense, in that Will had already made the executive decision. Dawn knew that you would veto the meeting if you knew upfront. It seems that Dawn is happy to be friends with Michelle and have an ongoing relationship with her without discussing the elephant in the room: you. From Dawn’s perspective, having a friendship with my husband’s girlfriend could be fun, but it makes it more fun without talking about him specifically. Maybe Ray can give you some insight on this type of arrangement?

[ocean]

I admit to putting on a few pounds but - elephant is a bit much

[Long Lurker 34]

The main contract was already awarded (instructions from above, which Michelle closed), this is an extension of the primary contract. Michelle and her group were expecting to meet the 2 legal representatives (London based specialists) of Dawn's firm, to discuss expansion and extension of services.
Dawn was not expected at all, so a surprise all round. Obviously Dawn was aware of the meet and piggy backed, suss Michelle out presumably, bit conniving in my view. Had I known - it wouldn't have happened.

The conversation I had with Dawn, which was more forthcoming than mine with Michelle, was that I wasn't mentioned at all. But Michelle did say to me 'She knows (who I am)'. Both did say they got on very well, but Michelle was a bit uncomfortable awaiting the direction of the conversation. Me - I am totally confused, bemused and in need of a good malt.

O - Isn't this men's general torch to bare when it comes to women?

[skoot1958]

Ocean, ask Michelle if she was really ok, and would she like to properly meet up with Dawn so the girls can be in the same page

How would Dawn reacted if you had a meeting with one of her BFs like the magical French man or the young stud with out her knowing

But that’s woman for you, if Michelle and Dawn are
Ok embrace, maybe a double date is on the cards, I would pay to see that

Or Dawn/ray/Michelle as all the girls are into the lifestyle Michell has you and he long term BF, and Michelle has had a number of other BF over the years

You are just the poor man, the woman will get there way in the end

[Freemans892]

Below is Dawn feedback on Michelle:
- To Ray: that ‘my girlfriend’ was a ‘looker’ and had a very sexy mouth. She admired my taste.
- To you: ‘Oh and your girlfriend is gorgeous. Very intelligent, elegant dresser’. ‘Nice tits, too!’ No problems? ‘Absolutely none. Good shag Thursday night?’ Are you being sarcastic? “No. She’s genuinely really nice. We had a chat over coffee in her office. Expanding the services are good for both of us. We got on very well. So relax’

Dawn was in the same office that you first snog Michelle, and Dawn’s feedback is that Michelle had a “very sexy mouth”. At that moment, Dawn was probably keen on snogging Michelle but couldn’t because she needed to be professional.

On Friday night, Dawn probably admitted to Ray that she had the hots for Mark’s girlfriend. I reckon a discussion of a threesome came up as a fantasy for Dawn. The question is, will it be a Mark-Dawn-Michelle, Dawn-Ray-Michelle or a Mark-Michelle-Ray threesome? I also reckon that Dawn will work out a way for Ray to meet Michelle. Ray has already met your daughters-in-law, so don’t discount this possibility. Dawn is able to use Ray to stir the pot a bit, e.g., a bit like she previously did with your DILs. I advise you to give Michelle a little bit of a heads-up about Ray, so she is not surprised next time.

[skoot1958]

Ocean has already told Michelle about Dawns hobbies including Ray, Michelle expressed interest in the room (BTW is it still being used) and meeting Michelle in the past

Dawn was 100% straight until Ray came along

Girls will be girls and there is nothing Ocean as a poor man and do just let it play out, on the other side Michelle is Oceans friend, I am sure he does not want to share her with Dawn who has a voracious appetite

Michelle like having special friend she has 2 just now, maybe she is interested in seeing what’s in the other side

It could all make a very interesting 50th birthday party Tony, Ray, Michelle, Ocean Dawn and maybe a couple more

Dawn would the queen at that party

[KinkyBear]

Over a week without an update makes me appreciate how amazing Ocean has been at updating us all. Thank you Ocean! I hope all is well. Can’t wait to hear the latest!

[ocean]

Thursday pm: Back from a relaxing week in the sun, courtesy of a conscience stricken Dawn. We agreed that this break was for us, despite a couple of approaches from several couples who we spent time around the pool and had dinner as a group and a couple of guys who tried to gain Dawn’s attention, who we didn't. It was quite difficult sitting around the smaller pool of the hotel (people more our age to get away from the music and the young guys out to impress). The girls were topless and one of them wore a bikini string bottom, Dawn’s was brief, but blimey there is a limit!
We did consider a bit of action; Dawn was in the hot tub on her own (early evening) a Turkish guy asked if he could join her, she said yes. Sat very close to her, talking to her and simply slipped his hand onto her lap and into her brief bikini bottoms. No kissing just straight in. It would be fair to say she enjoyed the attention, but after a short period of time she stopped him and said she had to join me for dinner. He kissed her and insisted they meet back here after dinner around 11, ’to take the next step’, she told him ‘perhaps’. I asked if she tried to stop him, to which she replied, ‘it was so quick. I was shocked and surprised, but he was a really nice guy - and it was nice’. Who dares wins Rodney.

Other than that it was quite mundane and relaxing. Arrived home Thursday afternoon and managed the unpacking, as Dawn organised the household requirements (I’m not trusted with that). I rang in to find all was working like clockwork. (No one missed me. I think they really don’t need me). I rang Michelle to see if I could arrange next Thursday, all good.

Friday morning: Dawn, having discussed her plan with me, went into the office around 7.30 to catch up and sign whatever was necessary and afterwards meet Philip. He suggested she drive up to Wandsworth and have lunch at The Ship around 2 but try to get to his apartment say 12. Very happy was he. He would carry on with work till then (to the surprise of his colleagues) and await Dawn’s arrival.

At 12 she walked into his apartment wearing a favourite light denim button front, 3/4 sleeve shirt dress, buttoned suitably low and heels, to be greeted with a huge hug, declarations of how much he’d missed her etc. The weather was foul so she knew the pre lunch action would be indoors and not on the terrace overlooking the Thames, which she liked. Her dress was soon on the floor. She was now convinced he wasn’t seeing anyone else as he only lasted a few minutes (she did ask if there were others later, which he said no). Apologetic for the brevity of the performance, she managed the resurrection ready for the 2nd coming, this time with her on top to control the action. She told me, for a vanilla guy he had the most fantastic nipple technique using his mouth, teeth and tongue, which took her over the top quite quickly, still clenching him and moving toward orgasm no 2 each.

During lunch he kept suggesting an afternoon session, she said she had to get home ‘as Mark thought she was at the office’, knowing the thought of me being in the dark always delighted him. So he had to do with a grope and a finger session in the apartment basement car park.

Sunday: Dawn decided she’d like to read my saga an see the photos. OK no problem.
Until…. she read the part of my service buddy (who she knew and liked) had turned coat on me sharing photos of her 20 years ago without my knowledge!!! She went ballistic. I had to take one of the most savage bollockings for almost half an hour (and I’ve had serious bollockings in the services). Guys, I felt about 2” tall. (I didn’t ask if a shag was out of the question? Timing didn’t seem right.)

After about an hour of kicking doors, calling me all the bastards under the sun, threatening to pull my OHW account, she calmed down. I explained remedial actions I’d taken, had deleted everything about her (I didn't mention the horse had bolted on a few), but showed her the images of other wives she knew and he had traded, which I'd taken from him. Oh it was OK to look at them, wasn’t it. Double standards. I had to promise to release nothing more until she OK’d it, or I wouldn't get my balls back.

She asked if she could ‘take over’ my OHW account and make contributions. I told her, no, then it wouldn't be mine, start her own. ‘Why reinvent the wheel and lose continuity’. I still said no. So we’re spared that.

I'll catch up soon guys.

[ResponsibullCummings]

I was concerned when you went silent for a bit that something had happened. I'm glad Dawn has decided to let you keep posting. I knew when you posted that story that eventually she'd see it one day and it could cause problems. Glad Dawn didn't punish all of us at OHW because of your asshole former friend. I think it would be great if Dawn posted occasionally using her own account. If she's not interested in started her own thread she could post in the hotties on your pictures thread since that one isn't updated as often there would be no pressure or expectation of it being a regular update. I am sure the members would love more pictures of her if she was willing to share a few more in exchange for lots of positive feedback about them if she's willing.

[Long Lurker 34]

I was concerned when you went silent for a bit that something had happened. I'm glad Dawn has decided to let you keep posting. I knew when you posted that story that eventually she'd see it one day and it could cause problems. Glad Dawn didn't punish all of us at OHW because of your asshole former friend. I think it would be great if Dawn posted occasionally using her own account. If she's not interested in started her own thread she could post in the hotties on your pictures thread since that one isn't updated as often there would be no pressure or expectation of it being a regular update. I am sure the members would love more pictures of her if she was willing to share a few more in exchange for lots of positive feedback about them if she's willing.

O - With RBC on his entire statement.

[skoot1958]

I would agree with the above having, Dawn post on her own thread or on her hotties page would be really interesting, other than the asshole friends what did Dawn think of your posts, what did Dawn think of the other woman you friend posted, was she surprised with any of the photos?

Did Dawn give you any more info on her meet with Michelle, did they talk about you, does Dawn/Michelle still want to meet socially ?

[ocean]

Hi Guys, thanks for the feedback and comments.

Dawn eventually calmed down to the point she wanted to discuss the ‘arsehole’s’ behaviour in a more tempered mood. She was upset that some of the images were very explicit and she was clearly identifiable, (we were younger, the worse for drink and she was hot, but…’ I had no excuse, I should have cleared it. She explained, so many people in her current position have their past raked up and that could cause problems. It didn’t stop her gorging over the images of the other women, a lot of whom she knew and is still in touch with, images from the past and right up to date, there were hundreds of them, adding her comments (good and bad), also surprise at some of the people she would never have suspected.

I asked why her ‘intrusion’ into my side, ie Michelle, she finally apologised. Admitting she was jealous (surprise) and curious (no surprise) as I seemed quite taken with her. I hadn't approached her stable, referring to James (see garden image) Will, Ray and Remi et al, (except for garden visits'. She accepted that she was out of order and would keep it professional, there would be no need for a return meet, unless Michelle asked. She did comment though, that Michelle was a very sexy lady and whilst she understood my interest, ‘but not too deep, as I was hers’. didn't expect that.

As in Zulu - the Dawn attack; She was aware of my OHW stress outlet and a ‘therapy’, she'd asked to see and read the thread, which she avidly studied. Apart from the obvious, (what a temper! did I take a beating) she said it was really enjoyable but she would be a bit more descriptive and could bring her views into play, what her feelings were.(It's not a bout her - well it is but..) Instead of the obvious leaning for men. She said, the thing that stood out to her, was not only the incredible camaraderie, but also the breadth of interest in the ‘genre’. Which is when she suggested that if she contributed (read; take-over) to the column it would have more depth and we would have a more in depth understanding of the female side. What utter bollocks! Coup d’état by stealth!!!

I suggested her own thread, she felt she that wasn’t what she wanted, but would ‘like to be a part of mine’. She might even release more images. Bribery and definite corruption. It’s still a Take-over. No surprise at this, but not sure I want this.

So where do I go? it’s my therapy, where I off-load my angst, my jealousies; I still harbour, even a year on. Or accept the inevitable? Answers on a postcard…

[skoot1958]

Mark I am sure OHW would love to read Dawn innermost throughs, however this is your blog and should stay that way, as Dawn can read your post, Dawn could provide you with edits if she feels the need

Better still Dawn should post on her own thread or on her hotties

Would love more hotties photos, Dawn is a stunning looking woman

Have you been able to collect image of Michele for your worn enjoyment?

[ocean]

Michelle insists that won't happen, even for me.

[skoot1958]

If you ever gat way for some sun time, ( rules are often dropped) with Michelle you can get a discreet shot for yourself

[Long Lurker 34]

Hi Guys, thanks for the feedback and comments.

Dawn eventually calmed down to the point she wanted to discuss the ‘arsehole’s’ behaviour in a more tempered mood. She was upset that some of the images were very explicit and she was clearly identifiable, (we were younger, the worse for drink and she was hot, but…’ I had no excuse, I should have cleared it. She explained, so many people in her current position have their past raked up and that could cause problems. It didn’t stop her gorging over the images of the other women, a lot of whom she knew and is still in touch with, images from the past and right up to date, there were hundreds of them, adding her comments (good and bad), also surprise at some of the people she would never have suspected.

I asked why her ‘intrusion’ into my side, ie Michelle, she finally apologised. Admitting she was jealous (surprise) and curious (no surprise) as I seemed quite taken with her. I hadn't approached her stable, referring to James (see garden image) Will, Ray and Remi et al, (except for garden visits'. She accepted that she was out of order and would keep it professional, there would be no need for a return meet, unless Michelle asked. She did comment though, that Michelle was a very sexy lady and whilst she understood my interest, ‘but not too deep, as I was hers’. didn't expect that.

As in Zulu - the Dawn attack; She was aware of my OHW stress outlet and a ‘therapy’, she'd asked to see and read the thread, which she avidly studied. Apart from the obvious, (what a temper! did I take a beating) she said it was really enjoyable but she would be a bit more descriptive and could bring her views into play, what her feelings were.(It's not a bout her - well it is but..) Instead of the obvious leaning for men. She said, the thing that stood out to her, was not only the incredible camaraderie, but also the breadth of interest in the ‘genre’. Which is when she suggested that if she contributed (read; take-over) to the column it would have more depth and we would have a more in depth understanding of the female side. What utter bollocks! Coup d’état by stealth!!!

I suggested her own thread, she felt she that wasn’t what she wanted, but would ‘like to be a part of mine’. She might even release more images. Bribery and definite corruption. It’s still a Take-over. No surprise at this, but not sure I want this.

So where do I go? it’s my therapy, where I off-load my angst, my jealousies; I still harbour, even a year on. Or accept the inevitable? Answers on a postcard…

O - I don't see you comment much on other threads so it's I don't know if you read many other threads. Regarding Dawn making comments, may I suggest you take a look at DeepDownWannabe's thread. He started it and ultimately
his wife (DDWHW) also makes posts on it too. Their circumstance is entirely different than you and D, but how they both provide commentary and respond to readers comments is one the things that makes that thread such a good one.

[ocean]

LL thanks for the feedback, you are right I usually browse rather than comment and I hadn't seen DDWHW's thread, but I will look at it and keep an open mind. Thank you.

We are very open and straight with each other about everything, which is why on several occasions I have invited her to peruse this thread, which she chose not to, until my error of judgement, then it was a thorough scouring for any other faux pas, which weren't any. She did say my commentary was clear, honest and pretty accurate to her reports and as such, would like to be part of them.

I know Dawn well and she will muscle in. Is it what I want? What can she contribute?

[ResponsibullCummings]

Ocean your thread is fantastic and as been you sharing your story so far so I can understand why you want to keep it your own. I think Dawn would bring a women perspective and more details and her feelings. You might find you enjoy reading about it yourself as it will be likely more detailed than the debriefing she gives you which is mainly about the physical side of things. She may also find the site a good outlet for herself. It just comes down to how you execute it. She should get her own account to eliminate confusion about who is posting. She could look into whether getting verified would provide her with any benefits.

As I mentioned before she could start updates in your hottie thread to start. If she enjoys posting she could start her own thread if she feels she's going to post regularly or maybe when you see how it goes maybe you will be okay with her occasionally posting on your existing thread. Personally I would rather be reading one of her posts now than my own here and I bet most others on here would agree on that.

[superb101]

Ocean your thread is fantastic and as been you sharing your story so far so I can understand why you want to keep it your own. I think Dawn would bring a women perspective and more details and her feelings. You might find you enjoy reading about it yourself as it will be likely more detailed than the debriefing she gives you which is mainly about the physical side of things. She may also find the site a good outlet for herself. It just comes down to how you execute it. She should get her own account to eliminate confusion about who is posting. She could look into whether getting verified would provide her with any benefits.

As I mentioned before she could start updates in your hottie thread to start. If she enjoys posting she could start her own thread if she feels she's going to post regularly or maybe when you see how it goes maybe you will be okay with her occasionally posting on your existing thread. Personally I would rather be reading one of her posts now than my own here and I bet most others on here would agree on that.

Excellent ideas! I agree wholeheartedly!

[ocean]

Thursday - Michelle. I drove over to Michelles home feeling more than a little anxious. How was I going to be received after Dawn’s stunt, had she done any damage and so on.

I needn’t have worried, she was great. Thank goodness summer is here, white summer dress with yellow flowers, tight and unbuttoned at the top and flowing at the bottom to her calfs. Low beige sandals to finish off. She looked and smelled wonderful. A big slow kiss, and the obligatory feel of her arse, yes, no pants, result. She took a hand and placed it on her boob, no bra, dreamland for me. She asked if I was happy now? I said that I was ecstatic but how was she? ‘Randy, let’s go for supper, I’ve booked and we’re running late’.

Over a great supper and a bottle of wine, we caught up with the latest news, home and work. All seemed good. her husband is paying more attention and she’s started shagging him again after almost 2 years without. The other boyfriend (his friend - though he doesn’t know it) is still on the scene, so I teased her about the variety of cocks she was enjoying. She grinned, ‘I know the one I prefer’. and left it at that.

Then came the question I had dreaded, how was my home news? I said slowly, all was also good. OK what happened? She was really amused, ‘The two people from her firm arrived to do the presentation for the extra services and products we were to buy for the Group. We needed a few questions answering and we were going to sign’. “Before we started, Dawn walked in, what an entrance, seriously classy. Our guys were mesmerised by her. She introduced herself as the Senior Partner and Project lead, that ruffled the feathers of the guy from her London office the girl wasn’t bothered so much, it was amusing. She sat opposite me. She is a head turner Mark. Smart, elegant, great looking woman. Not as confident as she was making out I think, but then nor was I. To tell the truth darling, andto be blunt, I was crapping myself. There, I’ve said it’. What happened next? ‘Dawn took over and did a great job, our tech people asked questions which were answered by the London guy, but Dawn’s presentation was directed more to me. All the guys loved her, said she was classy, which she is. She stayed behind after everyone left for coffee. I didn’t know what to expect.’ ‘Mark. She was lovely. We talked work, fashion, clothes in fact loads of things; but not about you. I like her and I could get on very well with her, perhaps if things were different we could be friends’. Oh so you’d swap me out for her, is that it? Laughing, ‘No. She gives off - sexy signals, I don’t know, I don’t think she knows she’s doing it’. Would you fuck her? ‘What?? Never say never, but women aren’t my thing!’ Yes, that’s what Dawn said. You must meet her girlfriend, seriously, she’s part Indian and so glamorous. I got a quizzical look and a kiss.

We walked arm in arm to my car in the carpark. It has a centre console which is a real pain, figuratively and practically, so we kissed and I checked out the new Michelle, to our mutual satisfaction. Back to her house and a glass of wine, climbed the stairs and some nice easy, yes; lovemaking. I think a little insecurity had crept in, she asked if her blowjob technique was what I liked. Better than what I liked, I said. (I think the question was really do I blow as well as Dawn?) She asked other little question which I gave reassuring answers. I told her I was very very fond of her but didn’t want to cause complications. Till we fell asleep. It reminded me of the joke ‘ describe your worst blowjob??? - wonderful’. Early morning lazy doggy in the shower, breakfast, huge kisses, I told her I’d phone her in the office later and went our separate ways.

I am very fond of her. I like her company. I like the type of sex we have. I’m comfortable.

Dawn told me it’s a Remi night, wants to bring him back to the house; ‘The Room’ maybe? I must get a camera for that room but I can watch the lounge activities from the garden. She’s asked me to help her with her memoirs. that’ll be interesting.

[54321]

‘No. She gives off - sexy signals, I don’t know, I don’t think she knows she’s doing it’.

How wonderful! I love a woman who can enter a room and have all the guys' tongues hanging out!

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