Great to hear you guys are OK.My apologies everyone. My time recently was just all used up. I will be getting back to catching things up shortly. Thank you for the kind comments.
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Just want to chime in as a follower/lurker: your story is fascinating and well told. Thanks.
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Independence Weekend
Fourth of July fell on a Tuesday so four days off from work. Saturday we had a small cook out at our home. Brittany and her husband came over. They seemed to be ok and I had heard nothing more of the IT Guy affair. Tory had a friend over, guy his age. We cooked, drank and played yard games. The girls were in tight thin shorts and Jen was braless in a tank top. Nipples on full display. The girls took random breaks from us guys for girl chats.
We had a camp fire going and as day turned into night we lit off some illegal NH fireworks. At one point Tory kissed Jen out of habit and his friend saw it. He looked at me confused and I made no expression of any kind, which I am sure added to his confusion. Brittany and her husband saw it as well.
It was a pretty relaxed gathering. At one point I went to the house to retrieve something and Brittany’s husband followed me in. He asked to talk. He basically wanted to know how I handled my wife being with other guys solo. I was honest with him, explained how much it turned me on, the denial, edging of sexual tension and the fact that I enjoyed watching my wife getting full pleasure from the encounters. I also discussed the evolution from just an experiment to where we were at that time.
He admitted that the affair was not a surprise to him. He also admitted that he was somewhat hypocritical with the way he treated his wife and he was trying to understand if he could allow a similar situation to occur like our arrangement. I could only offer that I was happy with it but he would have to make his own decision. He then asked me if he did decide to try some form of hotwife arrangement would I be interested in fucking his wife.
This caught me off guard. I explained to him that Jen would never be on board with such a scenario. That our arrangement was a one way deal. I think this revelation created some anxiety for him as he explained that he could not have a deal like that. He would need to be able to fuck other women if she was to have that freedom with other men. Again I told him that was something they had to decide. I thanked him for thinking of me.
We went back outside and the girls knew something was up since we had been gone too long for the original purpose of our trip inside. Jen cornered me immediately, wanting to know what we had been talking about. I gave her the full recap, nothing omitted. She got jealous instantly when I told her of his offer to me to fuck Brittany. I assured her that I declined in the most clear and definitive way.
The rest of the evening Jen seemed on guard. I avoided any interaction with Brittany that I could without being rude.
We concluded the gathering around midnight. Tory’s friend stayed over because he had too much to drink. We got him settled on the couch. Tory and Jen snuck off into his room and I to ours. Ten minutes later she was singing to the moon while he plunged his dick into her. I could only imagine what was going through his friends mind.
Fourth of July fell on a Tuesday so four days off from work. Saturday we had a small cook out at our home. Brittany and her husband came over. They seemed to be ok and I had heard nothing more of the IT Guy affair. Tory had a friend over, guy his age. We cooked, drank and played yard games. The girls were in tight thin shorts and Jen was braless in a tank top. Nipples on full display. The girls took random breaks from us guys for girl chats.
We had a camp fire going and as day turned into night we lit off some illegal NH fireworks. At one point Tory kissed Jen out of habit and his friend saw it. He looked at me confused and I made no expression of any kind, which I am sure added to his confusion. Brittany and her husband saw it as well.
It was a pretty relaxed gathering. At one point I went to the house to retrieve something and Brittany’s husband followed me in. He asked to talk. He basically wanted to know how I handled my wife being with other guys solo. I was honest with him, explained how much it turned me on, the denial, edging of sexual tension and the fact that I enjoyed watching my wife getting full pleasure from the encounters. I also discussed the evolution from just an experiment to where we were at that time.
He admitted that the affair was not a surprise to him. He also admitted that he was somewhat hypocritical with the way he treated his wife and he was trying to understand if he could allow a similar situation to occur like our arrangement. I could only offer that I was happy with it but he would have to make his own decision. He then asked me if he did decide to try some form of hotwife arrangement would I be interested in fucking his wife.
This caught me off guard. I explained to him that Jen would never be on board with such a scenario. That our arrangement was a one way deal. I think this revelation created some anxiety for him as he explained that he could not have a deal like that. He would need to be able to fuck other women if she was to have that freedom with other men. Again I told him that was something they had to decide. I thanked him for thinking of me.
We went back outside and the girls knew something was up since we had been gone too long for the original purpose of our trip inside. Jen cornered me immediately, wanting to know what we had been talking about. I gave her the full recap, nothing omitted. She got jealous instantly when I told her of his offer to me to fuck Brittany. I assured her that I declined in the most clear and definitive way.
The rest of the evening Jen seemed on guard. I avoided any interaction with Brittany that I could without being rude.
We concluded the gathering around midnight. Tory’s friend stayed over because he had too much to drink. We got him settled on the couch. Tory and Jen snuck off into his room and I to ours. Ten minutes later she was singing to the moon while he plunged his dick into her. I could only imagine what was going through his friends mind.
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No uncertain terms…
The next morning I awoke first, or thought I did. The couch was empty and Tory’s friend had slipped out before I awoke. Jen never came to bed with me and she was the first to appear from Tory’s room. After her first sip of coffee she resumed her explicit view that I was to never entertain fucking Brittany. Like being charged for a crime one is innocent of I tried my best to reassure her that I was not interested in the least bit. I could see that there would never be an opportunity for me to have a side chick, even if I wanted one, which I did not.
She calmed down and I started to play with her ass that was peaking out of her flimsy nylon running shorts. Her perfect ass. She took her shorts off and sat on the table at the end and motioned me with her eyes towards her pussy. I obeyed, sat in the chair at the end of the table, put my cup of coffee next her and went in for the clit. Not sure if it was the alcohol, the amount of sex they had or ? But she was somewhat strong in aroma and taste that morning.
She held my head tight to her and I licked away and added a finger inside her, pulling at her g-spot. I felt as though I was being made to please her, almost like a punishment for the Brittany revelation. She wasn’t cumming though. Unusual for her when I gave her oral.
Tory drifted into the room and she pushed my head away. She got off the table and presented herself to him, her hands flat on the table top, ass towards him. Right next to me I watched him push his cock into her hole and begin the breeding process. She came for him. He filled her womb. He went for a cup of coffee and she returned to her original position in front of me and I went to work without being told what to do. Better this time, fresh.
Still I did not make her cum.
After breakfast Tory went to the shower and I took the opportunity to clear the air. I pointed out that I could tell she was still upset. She admitted that she was. I made the comment that I regretted telling her about my conversation with Brittany’s husband but that was the wrong thing to say. She got mad that I would consider lying to her. I could see that there was no win for me so I dropped all conversation about it.
The plan of the day was to do a hike. We packed up the car and headed to southern New Hampshire to a trail that went up to a rocky peak in which you can see 360 degrees of the surrounding area. We made it to the trail head and Jen was dressed for full exposure. Flimsy nylon running shorts that barely covered the cheeks of her beautiful ass. Tank top with no bra, nipples on full display. A tantalizing bit of her flat belly showing.
The three of us ascended the climb to the top. The trail was crowded. Families, solo hikers and some younger couples. Jen got looks from both male and female hikers on the way up the mountain. At the top we had a light lunch and hung out enjoying the views. Jen eventually suggested that Tory check off the mile high club bucket item. Although we were far from being a mile high at this particular location.
My job was to be the look out. Behind a large stone formation on a beautiful sunny day I watched a young guy fuck my wife in the wild while I was suppose to be watching for intruders. She was bent over with her hands placed on a boulder and Tory was stuffing his cock into her pussy. It was surreal. He finished quickly. At this point Jen said I needed to clean her pussy as she did not want a noticeable wet spot in her shorts as we descended the mountain.
Outdoors, in the bright sunshine, her pussy glistened with their sex. I enjoyed doing this for her but on that day it seemed extra erotic. Maybe it was the location, the riskiness, but the satisfaction of licking her clean of all his sex was exhilarating that day. Oh, and she had me clean him too. Right down to licking his sweaty balls.
My reward was a painful boner that was denied relief for the moment. It is hard to hike with a straight rod in your shorts. Jen seemed very amused by it.
On the way home I drove and they sat in the back seat fooling around. On the interstate she was on all fours and I watched him in the rearview mirror pound my wife for the second time that day. When we arrived home I could not take the denial anymore and I fucked Jen over the hood of our car in our driveway as Tory looked on. I did not last long, her pussy was loose and wet with Tory’s sperm. To much edging for me and then to feel her that way made me come too quickly for my satisfaction.
The rest of the afternoon and evening was filled with sporadic fucking, Tory and I taking turns when we could get erect. Jen did her part to revive us.
The next morning I awoke first, or thought I did. The couch was empty and Tory’s friend had slipped out before I awoke. Jen never came to bed with me and she was the first to appear from Tory’s room. After her first sip of coffee she resumed her explicit view that I was to never entertain fucking Brittany. Like being charged for a crime one is innocent of I tried my best to reassure her that I was not interested in the least bit. I could see that there would never be an opportunity for me to have a side chick, even if I wanted one, which I did not.
She calmed down and I started to play with her ass that was peaking out of her flimsy nylon running shorts. Her perfect ass. She took her shorts off and sat on the table at the end and motioned me with her eyes towards her pussy. I obeyed, sat in the chair at the end of the table, put my cup of coffee next her and went in for the clit. Not sure if it was the alcohol, the amount of sex they had or ? But she was somewhat strong in aroma and taste that morning.
She held my head tight to her and I licked away and added a finger inside her, pulling at her g-spot. I felt as though I was being made to please her, almost like a punishment for the Brittany revelation. She wasn’t cumming though. Unusual for her when I gave her oral.
Tory drifted into the room and she pushed my head away. She got off the table and presented herself to him, her hands flat on the table top, ass towards him. Right next to me I watched him push his cock into her hole and begin the breeding process. She came for him. He filled her womb. He went for a cup of coffee and she returned to her original position in front of me and I went to work without being told what to do. Better this time, fresh.
Still I did not make her cum.
After breakfast Tory went to the shower and I took the opportunity to clear the air. I pointed out that I could tell she was still upset. She admitted that she was. I made the comment that I regretted telling her about my conversation with Brittany’s husband but that was the wrong thing to say. She got mad that I would consider lying to her. I could see that there was no win for me so I dropped all conversation about it.
The plan of the day was to do a hike. We packed up the car and headed to southern New Hampshire to a trail that went up to a rocky peak in which you can see 360 degrees of the surrounding area. We made it to the trail head and Jen was dressed for full exposure. Flimsy nylon running shorts that barely covered the cheeks of her beautiful ass. Tank top with no bra, nipples on full display. A tantalizing bit of her flat belly showing.
The three of us ascended the climb to the top. The trail was crowded. Families, solo hikers and some younger couples. Jen got looks from both male and female hikers on the way up the mountain. At the top we had a light lunch and hung out enjoying the views. Jen eventually suggested that Tory check off the mile high club bucket item. Although we were far from being a mile high at this particular location.
My job was to be the look out. Behind a large stone formation on a beautiful sunny day I watched a young guy fuck my wife in the wild while I was suppose to be watching for intruders. She was bent over with her hands placed on a boulder and Tory was stuffing his cock into her pussy. It was surreal. He finished quickly. At this point Jen said I needed to clean her pussy as she did not want a noticeable wet spot in her shorts as we descended the mountain.
Outdoors, in the bright sunshine, her pussy glistened with their sex. I enjoyed doing this for her but on that day it seemed extra erotic. Maybe it was the location, the riskiness, but the satisfaction of licking her clean of all his sex was exhilarating that day. Oh, and she had me clean him too. Right down to licking his sweaty balls.
My reward was a painful boner that was denied relief for the moment. It is hard to hike with a straight rod in your shorts. Jen seemed very amused by it.
On the way home I drove and they sat in the back seat fooling around. On the interstate she was on all fours and I watched him in the rearview mirror pound my wife for the second time that day. When we arrived home I could not take the denial anymore and I fucked Jen over the hood of our car in our driveway as Tory looked on. I did not last long, her pussy was loose and wet with Tory’s sperm. To much edging for me and then to feel her that way made me come too quickly for my satisfaction.
The rest of the afternoon and evening was filled with sporadic fucking, Tory and I taking turns when we could get erect. Jen did her part to revive us.
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So to hit on a couple comments/questions regarding my interactions with Tory, and those interactions being orchestrated by Jen. It was an interesting evolution tbh. Nothing that either of us could have predicted. Remember in the beginning she was very vanilla to start with. As time passed she became very non vanilla. I think that it was the natural excitement of pushing boundaries, for both of us. I never anticipated that I would do anything with a guy. And I wouldn’t have naturally. But once you become accustomed to eating your wife’s pussy after it has been raw fucked by some other dude the lines begin to blur. Also I became accustomed to an extreme form of edging as a result from a recurrent denial in preference to her having sex with someone else. We discussed this and she took it to another level with my approval. It also made her feel more powerful, desired and sexual. So I don’t mean to present this as her being into femdom or FLR kinks. It was more of a mutual thing that aroused us both. At this juncture Tory’s sexual energy matched Jen’s whereas mine was more enhanced by edging/denial. Add in the fact that I was now serving him as well as my wife the energy high was incredible. So it was easy to roll with it and all I had learned as a male about the lines of sexuality were becoming less relevant in favor of that high. Hope that makes sense. Also, my own orgasmic pleasure it so much more intense this way.
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Bravo!
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It makes sense for me
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Pretty much the way it went with us, Ray-man.
And before I forget, thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
Now that my wife and I are older, we've had plenty of time to ponder what was and we are in full agreement that her acceptance of her freedom to control our sex lives didn't happen with the first couple of guys she slept with after we married. It grew gradually as she began seeing two guys on a more consistent basis while she had less time for me. One guy in particular, was way more than just a "side piece," she had feelings for him - it supercharged our sex when we did have sex. I was becoming an expert in edging myself, too......and I found my orgasms in her were stronger but of course I was in her much less frequently. She told me more than once that if it were legal, she'd want to take him as a second husband and move him in. He would become her primary lover and she said "I could be fucked by two men every night." Actually, he already was her primary and one of the highlights for her was to wake up in his arms. I found that I also liked it when she woke up in his arms. We were learning about ourselves as we went along!
And before I forget, thanks for sharing your adventures with us.
Now that my wife and I are older, we've had plenty of time to ponder what was and we are in full agreement that her acceptance of her freedom to control our sex lives didn't happen with the first couple of guys she slept with after we married. It grew gradually as she began seeing two guys on a more consistent basis while she had less time for me. One guy in particular, was way more than just a "side piece," she had feelings for him - it supercharged our sex when we did have sex. I was becoming an expert in edging myself, too......and I found my orgasms in her were stronger but of course I was in her much less frequently. She told me more than once that if it were legal, she'd want to take him as a second husband and move him in. He would become her primary lover and she said "I could be fucked by two men every night." Actually, he already was her primary and one of the highlights for her was to wake up in his arms. I found that I also liked it when she woke up in his arms. We were learning about ourselves as we went along!
Ray-Man wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:47 amAlso I became accustomed to an extreme form of edging as a result from a recurrent denial in preference to her having sex with someone else. We discussed this and she took it to another level with my approval. It also made her feel more powerful, desired and sexual. So I don’t mean to present this as her being into femdom or FLR kinks. It was more of a mutual thing that aroused us both. At this juncture Tory’s sexual energy matched Jen’s whereas mine was more enhanced by edging/denial.
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Thank you for posting! I really like how Tory kissed Jen in front of everyone. Not to show off, but just being natural. Giving his girlfriend a kiss. 
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Ray-Man I have been binge following your thread ever since I stumbled upon it. It's gripping and exciting.Ray-Man wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 6:09 amFathers Day Trip
On June 17th Jen left for Maryland on the train for a visit with her dad for Father’s Day. She was gone the weekend. Tory and I hung out, did some hiking in the hills nearby and generally just took the weekend as a short respite from our busy schedules. We hit the gym on that Saturday.
Jen arrived back late Sunday night and promptly informed us that she hooked up with her ex-boyfriend on the trip. I wasn’t surprised by this but Tory seemed to be. His demeanor spoke loudly that he had some discomfort with this. That night I spoke to Jen and we decided that we best keep our activities to the three of us for a while owing to the previous issue with Ryan. We communicated this to Tory and he seemed relieved.
Monday and Tuesday she slept in his room both nights as a form of apology you might say. Her hooking up with her ex was a bit reckless considering the challenges we had gone through recently. It wasn’t like she needed any extra.
The following weekend the 24th we drove to Woodstock, VT and spent the weekend hiking by day and fucking by night. Our own little north country orgy.
Drama re-appeared on Monday as when she got to work Brittany confided with her that she got caught by her husband fucking IT Guy. They were working through it but it was dramatic and Jen was trying to not get dragged into the drama between them.
Tory, having been a tall skinny guy, was transforming. College had put some weight on him but working at the landscape company that came off quickly. Between the physical labor and the gym he started to put on some muscle and fill out a bit. It had been a wet early summer to date but he still was tanning up being outside all the time.
Weekdays we hit the gym, had supper and they fucked. Every night. I slipped in when it was my turn. Sometime they slept together in his room, some nights she slept with me, other times we all were in the same bed. She chose which option, she was in charge. He was breeding her every day and the amount of cum he was depositing into her womb was impressive. It seemed the perfect arrangement which was meeting all of our expectations and needs.
He and she made sure to regularly demonstrate that my position sexually was secondary to him. It was a game. The evolution was complete. He being younger and more fertile he could keep up the pace needed to make her happy. My constant state of arousal from the situation kept me where I needed/wanted to be. They made sure to maximize the opportunity to perform in front of me.
Just 2 caveats. One major, fundamental. The other softer, more nuanced.
How I, an outsider, dare to put in caveats? Well since this subject is very close to me emotionally, and my own personal life has significantly been impacted through the "life style", I tend to get a bit possessive about other people's adventures if those appeal to me.
Am I making sense?
Ok now coming back to the 2 caveats-
1. I was bummed, angry when Jen first hooked up with her ex, keeping you in the dark. Casually gave him her 2nd virginity - her ass (Then later chewed your head off over stuff like putting a finger up her ass and staring at Brittany's knockers).
She had committed at that time that the ex business was a one off thing. And spun some nonsense about "unfinished business" from the past and settling scores for some slight from their dating days.
I was angry when this happened.
It's not about the sex, it's not about the ass thing per se.. It was about the total lack of respect for you and your relationship. She (and many other wives in the cuckold business) flippantly talks about "love" for you and "more love now"! What love for God's sake? What's their to show for it when the chips are down!?
Not even a week's reticence when your "prestige" is on the line before that ex of hers!
You do realise that this is not about some random guy she grabbed at some pub while visiting her parents. It's an ex lover who treated her shabbily and Here she goes cucking you with him.. bringing you down, giving him the smug satisfaction of "victory" over you (the guy she supposedly "loves"!).
Ok. The first time was a slip up. Happened. She tried to put it right by categorically telling him it's a one off sex thing. Period.
But now she goes and does it AGAIN. Without consulting you.. Just giving you a fait accompli ... take it or lump it! The guy is laughing all over town telling his pals about "this chick he had once dated and dumped. Who found a schmuck to love and respect her. Then she gets back to town, and puts out for him in a flash. Chick tells him that it's a one off thing.. tries to act serious as if she means it.
Then next time she is back in town, she can't stay away, seeks him out and gets nailed again! What a poor sucker she must have landed as a "loving" husband! What a loser! Ha ha.."
What "love" Ray-Man!? What love for Chrissake!? "Loving" you is kinda convenient for her. You make no demands on her. You can't even look at someone's boob. You facilitate every goddamned whim of hers..What's not to "love" for God's sake!? In the meantime she can do ANYTHING for sex. No promises are sacrosanct.. Her words, commitments- nothing has any value. What you want, what you feel means squat to her!
I am sorry bro if I am coming across too strong.. too caustic. I am no one to judge. I am not a stakeholder. Like I said.. I have been identifying with you vicariously and have become possessive about your story. It's emotionally hurting me - your predicament.
Like I said my problem is NOT about sex. The sex can be- and is supposed to be in this lifestyle- infinitely promiscuous, kinky and pushing all boundaries. But the love part is sacrosanct.
Love presumes respect and prioritizing the partner under all circumstances. Love is not about convenience and pandering. "I love you till you bow to all my whims and accept any and everything". That's not love bro that's usage.
2. Second caveat is about Jen's prioritizing Brett's opinion over yours on the Gang Bang thing. That orgy was hot beyong measure and you as the hubby were totally ok with it! But she put Brett's angst above all else and decided to recant, apologise for and stop that kinda thing because Brett threatened to walk.
THAT, bro, is "love"! The guy she was actually ever in love with, was Brett.
He is a good man, a gold of a human being.. that's why he didn't steal her from under your nose. And maybe he didn't fancy a hotwife, as a life partner. But if he wanted, he could have yanked her away.
Brett being a gem of a guy, saw you as a genuine friend and knew his rightful place in the arrangement. He knew the difference between love on one hand and passionate sex + friendship package on the other.
I would sum up by repeating-
It's not about wild sex - promiscuous, unformatted sex.
It's not about the humiliation, denial aspect inherent in a cuckold relationship.
It's not about who fucks her first or who fucks her more.
It's not about she denying you ass while others gain entry..
It's about the "love" part.. The sanctity of the emotions... the respect part.
And let her not shut you up by arguing that you sent her on this path. You knew she will be free to date and free to do as she pleases. No. You didn't send her to her ex lover's bed - without consultation.. giving him her ass virginity.. You didn't get her to break her own word that it was a one off thing. And you didn't bargain for her falling in love with Brett and putting him much much above you in importance and priority as a partner.
Have a good life bro..Sorry for the rant.
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@sandy691... One of life's lessons that should have been taught to you when you were younger is when your pissed off about something, in this case how you perceived Jen is treating Rayman, and you write an email or rant, you should wait until the next day so you can reread it, and it most times delete it!
This way the alcohol or 420 will have worn off and your brain is working again!
This forum is a collection of stories, some fiction and some non fiction. (that means some are true and some are made up) based on the whim of the writer.
With that in mind, if you don't "like" how Jen is "Loving" Rayman, then you should read stories on Reddit. Them stories are ALWAYS true!
I bet it would be fun to talk to you after watching a movie because you didn't like how the movie ended!
One more life lesson...
If you don't have anything nice to say, then keep your mouth shut!
What motivation do you provide Rayman to keep writing when you slam him?
As we say in Texas.... Bless your heart!
This way the alcohol or 420 will have worn off and your brain is working again!
This forum is a collection of stories, some fiction and some non fiction. (that means some are true and some are made up) based on the whim of the writer.
With that in mind, if you don't "like" how Jen is "Loving" Rayman, then you should read stories on Reddit. Them stories are ALWAYS true!
I bet it would be fun to talk to you after watching a movie because you didn't like how the movie ended!
One more life lesson...
If you don't have anything nice to say, then keep your mouth shut!
What motivation do you provide Rayman to keep writing when you slam him?
As we say in Texas.... Bless your heart!
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You and I are singing different tunes, different songs here.
I am following the bro code. I thought it's my duty to give him a heads up. How he processes it and what he does with it.. is entirely his prerogative.
I, and lots of us here, get excited by the experiences of others. Every time the ante is raised, it's even more thrilling. Wow!
But it's human beings and human lives that one is dealing with here. Real lives. There is much more at stake than my wankathon!
I made it clear in my post that I closely identified with him and got possessive about his story. When I got hit between my eyes with a brick of reality, I thought it's my duty to bring to his notice what was glaringly obvious to me.
What he does with it.. is his call. I have apologized in advance for my rant. I could have just viewed it as a hot story and let it ride. But somewhere my conscience wouldn't allow me.
All the best...
You and I are singing different tunes, different songs here.
I am following the bro code. I thought it's my duty to give him a heads up. How he processes it and what he does with it.. is entirely his prerogative.
I, and lots of us here, get excited by the experiences of others. Every time the ante is raised, it's even more thrilling. Wow!
But it's human beings and human lives that one is dealing with here. Real lives. There is much more at stake than my wankathon!
I made it clear in my post that I closely identified with him and got possessive about his story. When I got hit between my eyes with a brick of reality, I thought it's my duty to bring to his notice what was glaringly obvious to me.
What he does with it.. is his call. I have apologized in advance for my rant. I could have just viewed it as a hot story and let it ride. But somewhere my conscience wouldn't allow me.
All the best...
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I agree with most of the sentiments expressed by both of the above commenters. I've been tempted several times to vent my outrage at Jen's behavior. If she were my hotwife we would have had a serious "come to Jesus" conversation long ago. But, she's Rayman's wife. I don't understand Jen's emotional sadism or Rayman's apparent masochism. Then again, if a hotwife/cuckold relationship were fair, balanced or equal it would be called swinging.
Despite not understanding Rayman and sometimes being outraged at Jen on his behalf I'm fascinated by this thread. Dissenting views certainly shouldn't be shut down. Sometimes an original poster can be so far down a rabbit hole than they clearly need to hear another point of view. That said: posting here requires a lot of time and, often, emotional energy. Express your outrage, give advice, whatever, but don't do it in a way that discourages posting.
Despite not understanding Rayman and sometimes being outraged at Jen on his behalf I'm fascinated by this thread. Dissenting views certainly shouldn't be shut down. Sometimes an original poster can be so far down a rabbit hole than they clearly need to hear another point of view. That said: posting here requires a lot of time and, often, emotional energy. Express your outrage, give advice, whatever, but don't do it in a way that discourages posting.
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Hear, hear!Lensman2000 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 1:01 pmThat said: posting here requires a lot of time and, often, emotional energy. Express your outrage, give advice, whatever, but don't do it in a way that discourages posting.
Fantasy began in ~2018, told my wife Oct 2021, lurked here beginning Feb 2023, journey started Jun 2024. She's a monster (her words) in the making.
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The thing is this has aleady happened. He's writing in the past. Just enjoy it ... or not. Jen's transformation is incredible and I appreciate their journey as a couple ... two consenting adults as their roles change.
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Caveats…
Maybe my focusing on the sexy part of our journey has left out some of the more emotional parts of our relationship and has inadvertently painted a less than perfect picture of the situation and of Jen.
Jen hooking up with her ex and giving up her ass to him. Yes, it was unexpected. And yes I was surprised by it. But, I also encouraged it in a way as well. I had not set any hard rules on her promiscuity and it was sort of a thrill to watch her become so much more confident in her sexuality and willingness to engage. She was mostly vanilla in the past. There is a certain pleasurable angst I experienced when she went off the rails a bit. I guess its all relative to one’s own perspective. So yes, there was a short period of disappointment with her giving herself to her ex but it was short lived. The allure of this arrangement is a hard drug and ultimately this incident was a “fix”.
Same with the brewery parking lot random blow job. I was initially upset. Then hopelessly aroused.
Brett was a great guy. We both really enjoyed his company. And friendship. He however did not have the level of comfort to participate in what we were doing in the long term. Because he was basically a true monogamist and this was an experiment for him as well as us. We were bound to hit a point at which he would not be comfortable to continue with the arrangement. He had a blast for a while and so did we. We miss him. He is a stand up guy for sure.
All that said, to your point that Jen is inconsiderate to my feelings or that she somehow is dishing on my love for her I can only say that I have not seen that in our day to day lives. Yes it may seem that way with some of these incidents but there is all the rest of our time together which I really do not write about that much. Also I will point out that I have encouraged and supported her in all of her activities, even the questionable ones. We are deeply connected and the detours have actually brought us closer.
This is a game for us. An emotional, sexual game. What boundary is too far? You don’t know until you get there. When you play to the extreme the next level is always a desire, a milestone. So you can be disappointed, even angry with some of our milestones. But in the end, we both are committed to one another and love each other. We reaffirm that every day. As a women she can experience a level of satisfaction that is foreign to me, but one that I can imagine and luckily can participate in and watch in awe. And I have discovered that my own boundaries and views on sex have changed immensely. The positives so far have outweighed the negatives. And lets not forget that this situation is of my making. If I never made the suggestion there would be nothing to ink on these pages.
Yes, sometimes there are discomforts in this. But we are good.
Maybe my focusing on the sexy part of our journey has left out some of the more emotional parts of our relationship and has inadvertently painted a less than perfect picture of the situation and of Jen.
Jen hooking up with her ex and giving up her ass to him. Yes, it was unexpected. And yes I was surprised by it. But, I also encouraged it in a way as well. I had not set any hard rules on her promiscuity and it was sort of a thrill to watch her become so much more confident in her sexuality and willingness to engage. She was mostly vanilla in the past. There is a certain pleasurable angst I experienced when she went off the rails a bit. I guess its all relative to one’s own perspective. So yes, there was a short period of disappointment with her giving herself to her ex but it was short lived. The allure of this arrangement is a hard drug and ultimately this incident was a “fix”.
Same with the brewery parking lot random blow job. I was initially upset. Then hopelessly aroused.
Brett was a great guy. We both really enjoyed his company. And friendship. He however did not have the level of comfort to participate in what we were doing in the long term. Because he was basically a true monogamist and this was an experiment for him as well as us. We were bound to hit a point at which he would not be comfortable to continue with the arrangement. He had a blast for a while and so did we. We miss him. He is a stand up guy for sure.
All that said, to your point that Jen is inconsiderate to my feelings or that she somehow is dishing on my love for her I can only say that I have not seen that in our day to day lives. Yes it may seem that way with some of these incidents but there is all the rest of our time together which I really do not write about that much. Also I will point out that I have encouraged and supported her in all of her activities, even the questionable ones. We are deeply connected and the detours have actually brought us closer.
This is a game for us. An emotional, sexual game. What boundary is too far? You don’t know until you get there. When you play to the extreme the next level is always a desire, a milestone. So you can be disappointed, even angry with some of our milestones. But in the end, we both are committed to one another and love each other. We reaffirm that every day. As a women she can experience a level of satisfaction that is foreign to me, but one that I can imagine and luckily can participate in and watch in awe. And I have discovered that my own boundaries and views on sex have changed immensely. The positives so far have outweighed the negatives. And lets not forget that this situation is of my making. If I never made the suggestion there would be nothing to ink on these pages.
Yes, sometimes there are discomforts in this. But we are good.
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Really well said Ray-Man. In Jen we trust. I love to see that level of love and understanding. It's a slippery slope and that's part of the fun. I wish I could get my wife to be more adventurous and push some boundaries. Alas I have to live vicariously through the incredible stories here. Yours is one I look forward to most. Keep up the great storytelling.
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Lovely! You are da man!!! Thank you for another excellent, balanced and thoughtful post.We reaffirm that every day. As a women she can experience a level of satisfaction that is foreign to me, but one that I can imagine and luckily can participate in and watch in awe. And I have discovered that my own boundaries and views on sex have changed immensely. The positives so far have outweighed the negatives. And lets not forget that this situation is of my making. If I never made the suggestion there would be nothing to ink on these pages.
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Great response. While those of us reading your story have our own frames of reference and boundaries, they certainly do not apply to you two. As l9ng as you and Jen are happy and in agreement on where this is taking you two, then it is really none of the rest of us business as to what you both enjoy.
Enjoy and have fun. And of course cum often.
Enjoy and have fun. And of course cum often.
Few things are more beautiful then a sexy loving wife spread wide open for all!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ray Man... Bro thanks for writing.Ray-Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:30 amCaveats…
Maybe my focusing on the sexy part of our journey has left out some of the more emotional parts of our relationship and has inadvertently painted a less than perfect picture of the situation and of Jen.
Jen hooking up with her ex and giving up her ass to him. Yes, it was unexpected. And yes I was surprised by it. But, I also encouraged it in a way as well. I had not set any hard rules on her promiscuity and it was sort of a thrill to watch her become so much more confident in her sexuality and willingness to engage. She was mostly vanilla in the past. There is a certain pleasurable angst I experienced when she went off the rails a bit. I guess its all relative to one’s own perspective. So yes, there was a short period of disappointment with her giving herself to her ex but it was short lived. The allure of this arrangement is a hard drug and ultimately this incident was a “fix”.
Same with the brewery parking lot random blow job. I was initially upset. Then hopelessly aroused.
Brett was a great guy. We both really enjoyed his company. And friendship. He however did not have the level of comfort to participate in what we were doing in the long term. Because he was basically a true monogamist and this was an experiment for him as well as us. We were bound to hit a point at which he would not be comfortable to continue with the arrangement. He had a blast for a while and so did we. We miss him. He is a stand up guy for sure.
All that said, to your point that Jen is inconsiderate to my feelings or that she somehow is dishing on my love for her I can only say that I have not seen that in our day to day lives. Yes it may seem that way with some of these incidents but there is all the rest of our time together which I really do not write about that much. Also I will point out that I have encouraged and supported her in all of her activities, even the questionable ones. We are deeply connected and the detours have actually brought us closer.
This is a game for us. An emotional, sexual game. What boundary is too far? You don’t know until you get there. When you play to the extreme the next level is always a desire, a milestone. So you can be disappointed, even angry with some of our milestones. But in the end, we both are committed to one another and love each other. We reaffirm that every day. As a women she can experience a level of satisfaction that is foreign to me, but one that I can imagine and luckily can participate in and watch in awe. And I have discovered that my own boundaries and views on sex have changed immensely. The positives so far have outweighed the negatives. And lets not forget that this situation is of my making. If I never made the suggestion there would be nothing to ink on these pages.
Yes, sometimes there are discomforts in this. But we are good.
I congratulate Jen for the exceptional love she has from a gem of a partner, in this lifetime..
I congratulate you too.. because being able to love selflessly and unconditionally, is by itself a gift. We often stress about the quality of "love" we are fated to receive from our partner(s). But often we don't realise that all of us are not capable of loving our partners, the way you love her. That too requires good fortune and magic in the stars..
Just one tiny rider - NONE of what I had written was about "sex" or sexual adventures or boundaries.
Having said that I would repeat that I feel immense relief and happiness with what you have written in your latest post.
Have a blast bro...
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I couldn't agree more. It all depends on what the two of you want to get out of it and anyone else involved. Those are the only people who matter.Trvlman7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:29 pmGreat response. While those of us reading your story have our own frames of reference and boundaries, they certainly do not apply to you two. As l9ng as you and Jen are happy and in agreement on where this is taking you two, then it is really none of the rest of us business as to what you both enjoy.
Enjoy and have fun. And of course cum often.
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Monday run…
Monday morning Jen and Tory went for a run. Kind of a reunion run of sorts. And for old times sake she had her running shorts around her ankles at the old spot in the state park where they originally started their sexual beginnings. After, Tory showered and headed to his families home for a holiday cookout.
Jen wanted oral so we retired to our bedroom where I took off her running shorts and soaked underwear. There was some dried cum on her inner thighs and I started there, cleaning her up. I pulled all I could out of her with my tongue while she was laying on her back with her legs spread wide for me. After she climaxed she wanted a shower and I was denied my turn at fucking her. Forced edging.
We spent the day doing things around the house, went for a walk in the state park (where Jen took me to that spot where Tory fucked her in the morning) and took a nap on the deck in the afternoon sunshine.
Tory came back around 4:00 in the afternoon and we decided to cook on the back deck and have some cocktails. Jen took off her shirt and was parading around topless and Tory was just in a pair of shorts. A lot of playful feels going on while I managed the grill. We ate and then moved down to the fire pit to finish off the night. Jen decided that being naked was the best option and so she pulled off her shorts and sat back in a camp chair. Tory was next to disrobe and I soon followed, not wanting to be that odd one.
Jen quipped that we should be outside naked more often. No one was in disagreement. It was a primal atmosphere, camp fire and being naked outside. It wasn’t long before Tory had an erection. We were all in camp chairs around the fire and Jen was between us. Jen started to tease Tory for his spontaneous erection and he pretended to take issue with it. At some point he stood up and stood next to her chair and told her to “suck it”.
She played along and said “Nope, I don’t feel like it”. He pleaded the unfairness of it all. After all, she was naked, how could he control himself. She stood her ground. She was in control. Why wouldn’t she? She knew very well that either of us would fuck her if she wanted it. He pleaded with her some more, pressing his needs at the moment.
Then the words “Have Miles do it”. He pressed on almost begging now, it was a game. Keep in mind I am just a passive onlooker to this but I was now a bit nervous. She then said “I want Miles to do it or nothing”. Shit. It was not what Tory wanted, nor I at the moment. She held her ground.
Now I was the one pleading with her. Nope. She wanted to watch.
Now I had done this before but it seemed different this time. Out of context. This was straight man on man, not part of a threesome type scenario. I asked Jen as directly as I could. “You want me to give him a full blow job?” “Yes” was the simple reply. Along with a sly grin. At this point Tory was resigned to the fact that I, not Jen, would be sucking him off. And so he approached me. I was sitting in my chair.
Monday morning Jen and Tory went for a run. Kind of a reunion run of sorts. And for old times sake she had her running shorts around her ankles at the old spot in the state park where they originally started their sexual beginnings. After, Tory showered and headed to his families home for a holiday cookout.
Jen wanted oral so we retired to our bedroom where I took off her running shorts and soaked underwear. There was some dried cum on her inner thighs and I started there, cleaning her up. I pulled all I could out of her with my tongue while she was laying on her back with her legs spread wide for me. After she climaxed she wanted a shower and I was denied my turn at fucking her. Forced edging.
We spent the day doing things around the house, went for a walk in the state park (where Jen took me to that spot where Tory fucked her in the morning) and took a nap on the deck in the afternoon sunshine.
Tory came back around 4:00 in the afternoon and we decided to cook on the back deck and have some cocktails. Jen took off her shirt and was parading around topless and Tory was just in a pair of shorts. A lot of playful feels going on while I managed the grill. We ate and then moved down to the fire pit to finish off the night. Jen decided that being naked was the best option and so she pulled off her shorts and sat back in a camp chair. Tory was next to disrobe and I soon followed, not wanting to be that odd one.
Jen quipped that we should be outside naked more often. No one was in disagreement. It was a primal atmosphere, camp fire and being naked outside. It wasn’t long before Tory had an erection. We were all in camp chairs around the fire and Jen was between us. Jen started to tease Tory for his spontaneous erection and he pretended to take issue with it. At some point he stood up and stood next to her chair and told her to “suck it”.
She played along and said “Nope, I don’t feel like it”. He pleaded the unfairness of it all. After all, she was naked, how could he control himself. She stood her ground. She was in control. Why wouldn’t she? She knew very well that either of us would fuck her if she wanted it. He pleaded with her some more, pressing his needs at the moment.
Then the words “Have Miles do it”. He pressed on almost begging now, it was a game. Keep in mind I am just a passive onlooker to this but I was now a bit nervous. She then said “I want Miles to do it or nothing”. Shit. It was not what Tory wanted, nor I at the moment. She held her ground.
Now I was the one pleading with her. Nope. She wanted to watch.
Now I had done this before but it seemed different this time. Out of context. This was straight man on man, not part of a threesome type scenario. I asked Jen as directly as I could. “You want me to give him a full blow job?” “Yes” was the simple reply. Along with a sly grin. At this point Tory was resigned to the fact that I, not Jen, would be sucking him off. And so he approached me. I was sitting in my chair.
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Bouncing…
I will never forget the image of him as he left her side and made his way to me. A naked guy walking to me, a hard dick bouncing in front of him. And then it was there, right in front of me. Jen commanded Tory to move a bit so she could see. He repositioned himself with his back to the fire and in front of my chair. Jen moved her chair closer. There was a moment of hesitation on my part. “Miles, I really want you to suck him”. Anything for her, I took the erect cock of another guy into my mouth and started to give Tory a blow job. She gave me tips as I went along with it. “Lick his balls”. Jen was in control and was loving it. It wasn’t just me she had grip on. Tory as well. I am sure he would have much rather been in her mouth than mine.
Resigned to my fate I started to put some energy into the task to get it done and over with. His pre cum started flowing and the reality of purposely giving a guy a blow job settled into my mind. Tory started to get into it as well, grabbed my head and started lightly thrusting into my mouth. It took some time. He was not cumming. It was tiring. So I worked harder and so did he in response. Jen was voicing her support and continued coaching me on my performance.
And then there was sperm in my mouth. It happened quickly, almost without any warning. She had him stay in place for a bit. Making sure I got it all. “Miles, you need to swallow it”. So I did as she wanted. “That was so fucking hot” she announced. Tory, still standing in front of me with a half hard penis asked, you want a beer? Sure was all I could muster. Jen got up from her chair and came over to me while Tory went to the cooler. She sat in my lap and gave me a deep probing kiss. “I love you so fucking much”. That just made it all worth it to me.
Tory delivered a beer to me and we all sat back down in our chairs. Jen looked over at me and said “You must have enjoyed it” and then pointed to my crotch. I was fully erect and didn’t even notice.
These milestones happen without much forethought. Our adventures were organic. However, Jen was becoming adept at pushing the boundaries to new levels. The beer washed the semen taste from my mouth and I began to relax.
An hour later Jen and Tory were fucking by the light of the fire. Brilliant. My own sexual tension was at a maximum level. I nearly could not hold myself back from stroking a load out while he was plunging into her. “He feels sooo good”. She did not address him, it was meant for me. Teasing again.
Our camp chairs are the Adirondack type with wide wooden arm rests. Perfect for her to put her knees upon to get into position to lick her leaking pussy suspended above my face. More of Tory’s cum. Her orgasm made her scream.
I will never forget the image of him as he left her side and made his way to me. A naked guy walking to me, a hard dick bouncing in front of him. And then it was there, right in front of me. Jen commanded Tory to move a bit so she could see. He repositioned himself with his back to the fire and in front of my chair. Jen moved her chair closer. There was a moment of hesitation on my part. “Miles, I really want you to suck him”. Anything for her, I took the erect cock of another guy into my mouth and started to give Tory a blow job. She gave me tips as I went along with it. “Lick his balls”. Jen was in control and was loving it. It wasn’t just me she had grip on. Tory as well. I am sure he would have much rather been in her mouth than mine.
Resigned to my fate I started to put some energy into the task to get it done and over with. His pre cum started flowing and the reality of purposely giving a guy a blow job settled into my mind. Tory started to get into it as well, grabbed my head and started lightly thrusting into my mouth. It took some time. He was not cumming. It was tiring. So I worked harder and so did he in response. Jen was voicing her support and continued coaching me on my performance.
And then there was sperm in my mouth. It happened quickly, almost without any warning. She had him stay in place for a bit. Making sure I got it all. “Miles, you need to swallow it”. So I did as she wanted. “That was so fucking hot” she announced. Tory, still standing in front of me with a half hard penis asked, you want a beer? Sure was all I could muster. Jen got up from her chair and came over to me while Tory went to the cooler. She sat in my lap and gave me a deep probing kiss. “I love you so fucking much”. That just made it all worth it to me.
Tory delivered a beer to me and we all sat back down in our chairs. Jen looked over at me and said “You must have enjoyed it” and then pointed to my crotch. I was fully erect and didn’t even notice.
These milestones happen without much forethought. Our adventures were organic. However, Jen was becoming adept at pushing the boundaries to new levels. The beer washed the semen taste from my mouth and I began to relax.
An hour later Jen and Tory were fucking by the light of the fire. Brilliant. My own sexual tension was at a maximum level. I nearly could not hold myself back from stroking a load out while he was plunging into her. “He feels sooo good”. She did not address him, it was meant for me. Teasing again.
Our camp chairs are the Adirondack type with wide wooden arm rests. Perfect for her to put her knees upon to get into position to lick her leaking pussy suspended above my face. More of Tory’s cum. Her orgasm made her scream.
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Happy fourth everyone (US that is). Still a year behind on this effort. Busy, busy these days.
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None for me…
More beer. Some conversations. And she ignored my throbbing dick other than a fleeting touch of the tip to rub a little pre cum around the head. Absolute torture. I had the worst case of blue balls that I could remember. After the last round of beers she took Tory by the hand and off they went into the house. “I will see you later”. Thats it, all she said, but with a mischevous grin. They disappeared while I was in a desperate state.
I needed to cum so bad. But she said she would see me later so I saved myself for her. When I went into the house they were nowhere to be seen, his door was closed. I laid on our marital bed waiting for her. My balls were incredibly sore. A deep down sore.
I woke late into the night to the sounds of him breeding her. She was singing like she always does when she is into it. Which is almost always. They eventually went quiet and I laid there waiting for her. I fell asleep and awoke in the morning to an empty bed. It was brutal. I got up and made coffee which awoke her and she came out of his room. I was at the point of begging for relief and she accommodated with a blow job. As a bit of pay back I pulled out and came on her face to which she pretended to be upset about.
She stood up and pulled my face to hers and kissed me but also rubbed her face on mine. It was all in fun but I was still hard and my balls were still aching. I grabbed her hand and took her to our bedroom where I aggressively fucked her. As I was pounding away on her Tory slipped up behind me and slapped my ass hard. This broke our rhythm and his next gesture was to push me aside and then enter Jen. I had been doing her doggy so she really wasn’t aware of what was going on until he pushed into her.
I let him go at her but to be honest I was a bit put out this time being replaced in her pussy. He continued for a long time and then finished in her. I was desperately needing her at that moment and slipped right in so as not to grant any time for her to deny me. I came quickly, too quickly. Jen turned around and sat on the bed with her legs spread facing us. She still had some of my cum on her face and she started to finger play with strings of jizz from her pussy. She just looked so hot that morning on the 4th of July.
More beer. Some conversations. And she ignored my throbbing dick other than a fleeting touch of the tip to rub a little pre cum around the head. Absolute torture. I had the worst case of blue balls that I could remember. After the last round of beers she took Tory by the hand and off they went into the house. “I will see you later”. Thats it, all she said, but with a mischevous grin. They disappeared while I was in a desperate state.
I needed to cum so bad. But she said she would see me later so I saved myself for her. When I went into the house they were nowhere to be seen, his door was closed. I laid on our marital bed waiting for her. My balls were incredibly sore. A deep down sore.
I woke late into the night to the sounds of him breeding her. She was singing like she always does when she is into it. Which is almost always. They eventually went quiet and I laid there waiting for her. I fell asleep and awoke in the morning to an empty bed. It was brutal. I got up and made coffee which awoke her and she came out of his room. I was at the point of begging for relief and she accommodated with a blow job. As a bit of pay back I pulled out and came on her face to which she pretended to be upset about.
She stood up and pulled my face to hers and kissed me but also rubbed her face on mine. It was all in fun but I was still hard and my balls were still aching. I grabbed her hand and took her to our bedroom where I aggressively fucked her. As I was pounding away on her Tory slipped up behind me and slapped my ass hard. This broke our rhythm and his next gesture was to push me aside and then enter Jen. I had been doing her doggy so she really wasn’t aware of what was going on until he pushed into her.
I let him go at her but to be honest I was a bit put out this time being replaced in her pussy. He continued for a long time and then finished in her. I was desperately needing her at that moment and slipped right in so as not to grant any time for her to deny me. I came quickly, too quickly. Jen turned around and sat on the bed with her legs spread facing us. She still had some of my cum on her face and she started to finger play with strings of jizz from her pussy. She just looked so hot that morning on the 4th of July.