A delusional stag/vixen outcome

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A delusional stag/vixen outcome

Unread post by Domingo-ITA » Sun Aug 25, 2024 3:55 pm

Please excuse any error or lack of clarity, as English isn’t my first language.

Me and F. have lived an extraordinarily strong love; both of us we had not experienced so overwhelming feelings before. When we fell in love with each other, I was 52 and she was 43. 5 years 3 months later we broke apart but after 3 months we restarted to talk many hours a day (yes, hours), we restarted to see each other, and to have sex. Sex was as amazing as it was previously. I would need 100 pages to tell everything about our love and our relation, both pre-break and post-break.

During the last year of the relation pre-break, we had played a fair bit about cuckold and stag/vixen; often we had sex by telephone or video while telling each other some stories of stag/vixen or bisex cuckolding. F. knows everything about Life Style and its meaning, we had discussed about it many times, she had read things etc. So, she knows everything is worth to know. I am stressing this point because it’s important later.

Post-break, we slowly restarted our fantasies on stag/vixen, and these fantasies became more and more concrete, until one day, in february last, 2 years after our break, it happened. I was very nervous while I waited her to go back home and call me to tell me everything. When she called me and told me everything, it was incredibly exciting, we had telephone sex and it was smoking hot.
She said a lot of important things: why did she decide to do that hotwife thing? Because she wanted do it with me and for us. Had it been exciting for her? Yes, it had been very exciting, but not more exciting than sex with me or sex fantasies with me. If I was not there, would she have done it anyway? No way, she wasn’t interested in him or in other men, and the only reason she did what she did was she found it incredibly exciting to do it with me, knowing I was waiting for her telling the story soon after. Why she wasn’t interested in him or in other men? After all, we were not in an exclusive relation anymore. Because no man could raise her interest after she had been in love with me (this she had said many times before and after that day).
This stag/vixen or hotwife adventure was unforgettable for me, not only for the sex part but for the “romantic” words and concepts. Remember: F. knows everything about LS and its relational background: it’s a game for couples, so you must be a couple to play the game. And indeed, in those two years post-break we were exclusive not because of a decision or a promise but because we only were still interested in each other. To me and to F. this is the best form of exclusivity.

So in March last we had amassed 5 year 3 months of love relation, plus 2 years post-break with a lot of sex and romanticism, and so I asked if she believed we could again re-join as a couple (spoiler: no; but this is another story).
We continued to talk about this subject and she recalled that 15 days before I had said something like “once in a while, it’s great, but I wouldn’t be happy if you saw [the other man] too often.” It didn’t seem a big deal to me, after all this is what she had said herself. But now F. said:

“Remember what did you say about me seeing the other man too often? Well, you have no rights anymore to say who I can see and how often.”

I was distraught: first of all, stag/vixen or hotwife is a game for couples, so if we do it, we are a couple de-facto, so I am entitled to express my opinion; second, it’s a game, a game which involves me as well, so I have the right to say when and under what circumstances and how often etc. I am willing to play that game. I felt betrayed and fell I had lost my trust in her. Her (I believed it was “our”) hotwife adventure I was fully supportive of, provided there was clear communication and peovided we were on the same page. We weren’t.

I asked for some days of silence, distraught for the love story which would not be resumed and for the humiliation for the story I have just told you. Then something else and unrelated happened that has not been recovered from, yet, and so we have never resumed our habit of staying hours talking etc. (in brief: after that conversation I searched relief by talking to another woman who is interested in me; F. discovered that and was furious: every other woman ot was my right to talk to and have sex with etc., every ither woman but not precisely that one (there were reasons partially understandable but overall insufficient). She said never talk again (eventually we had restarted talking but very rarely).

I tried to discuss the vixen thing and how I felt; I was thinking that probably there was a reasonable point of view which would have demonstrated that there was no breach of the trust. But F. didn’t want to discuss with me. She replied she was too distraught on her part, to be able to discuss about her (I can’t say “our” anymore) hotwife adventure.

I realized that F. was not willing to discuss with me about something I was a part of; then I realized she was selfish in being furious with me because I was trying to overcome my frustration for both the love story which was deemed not resumable and the hotwife adventure, by talking to another woman. I told her that it seemed jealousy on her part, but she replied harshly that it wasn’t.

In order to evaluate, I am no novice, as I have had my fair share of cuckold/hotwife/stag-vixen experiences in my past, only, not with F.

Bottom line: I feel my trust in F. betrayed; I believe she should have no vixen/hotwife adventure if she didn’t count me as a couple partner; or on the contrary she should have all sexual or emotional story she would want, without having me believe I was a fundamental part of it.

Now I am asking to you: do you find any weak point in my reasoning? Am I entitled to feel how I feel? How do you interpret all of the story I have told you?
An Italian ex-stag

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Re: A delusional stag/vixen outcome

Unread post by patw3268 » Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:16 pm

This is the game we play when we sign up for this lifestyle. If she agrees to do it, you can’t lock her into changing feelings. Just accept them as you come.

Seems to me, based on what I read, that you guys would be better off breaking up. Bro, she doesn’t respect you. Unless you are okay with feeling less than an equal, you need to move on.

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