Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[Long Lurker 34]

SF - Good to see you back.

[slenderfish]

SW just informed me that she desires to take on a new trainer (private sessions) at the new location, effective immediately.

I casually asked what happened with Mr. G and it seems she was no longer getting enough personal attention from him.

That works for me. Let's find someone who will give her what she wants and needs.

[Parsifal]

Yes, and also what you want and need her to have. A woman that beautiful can wield charms and powers so spectacularly. It's a spectacle we as their husbands have a front row seat to behold.

[hopper469]

So glad your back posting SF

[Mr Mrs Cream]

SW just informed me that she desires to take on a new trainer (private sessions) at the new location, effective immediately.

I casually asked what happened with Mr. G and it seems she was no longer getting enough personal attention from him.

That works for me. Let's find someone who will give her what she wants and needs.

Great that there is a next goal.

Hope to read about SW wearing sexy joga pants (see-through) and sexy top during training and dirty talking with a new trainer.
E.g. describing to him that you want her to have very close realtionship with trainer. And during a massage take care of her whole body.

[zoe]

SF: Did he want to fuck you in your ass?
SW: Yeah, he wanted to fuck my ass.
SF: Did he ask you?


SF: So he fucked your ass?
SW: Yeah

SF: He fucked your ass hard:
SW: Yeah
SF: Did he put his big dick all the way inside of you
SW: Mmm yeah
SF: Where did he come?
SW: He came in my ass

Gotta love a lady who likes it in her ass

just saying

[Long Lurker 34]

SW just informed me that she desires to take on a new trainer (private sessions) at the new location, effective immediately.

I casually asked what happened with Mr. G and it seems she was no longer getting enough personal attention from him.

That works for me. Let's find someone who will give her what she wants and needs.

SF - As I recall didn't his wife seem to have an issue with SW being around Mr G?

[Mark KL]

Wonderful quick updates. Looking forward to you filling-in some of the missing details you mentioned in passing.

[slenderfish]

SW just informed me that she desires to take on a new trainer (private sessions) at the new location, effective immediately.

I casually asked what happened with Mr. G and it seems she was no longer getting enough personal attention from him.

That works for me. Let's find someone who will give her what she wants and needs.

SF - As I recall didn't his wife seem to have an issue with SW being around Mr G?

I'm reminded of how SW was so enamored with Mr. B. With him it was an almost-two-year buildup from when she/we first met Mr. B at a party in St. Tropez when I immediately saw she had an extra level of awareness of him and less of herself whenever he was in the same room. She immediately informed me that we'd met his estranged wife the prior year and she'd kept in touch primarily with me since then, and therefore she (SW) would be driving the contact and friendship with Mr. B. This continued until it culminated in September of 2020 at which time she had him stay overnight when I was away, thinking I was not aware. After that night, the next time we were all together at a party in our house, he was giving all his attention to Ms. R. It was this attention shift that coincided with SW's change in energy toward him; e.g. she was "over it" with him.

She is now "over it" with Mr. G. With her explanation, I can only deduce that whatever energy and attention she craved from him, was no longer being provided, and that he may have transitioned his attentions to someone else.

Let's acknowledge that someone who takes such care of her body, her face and her personal style, is doing it for some reason (whether self-aware of that reason or not). It's to look unusually attractive. It's to attract attention, to fill some need. Obviously it worked with me, and continues to work with me. But I'm not the new shiny object/intriguing person.

I noted in the posting from a few days ago that we are establishing ourselves in a newer friends group closer to where we live. SW has been putting on her extra shine and people are, as always, smitten with her. Both the men and women. It's dazzling to watch, and I'm looking forward yet again as to how this will all roll out.

[slenderfish]

Gotta love a lady who likes it in her ass

just saying

Yes. She knows her ass is the central sexy object and feature that attracts.

It was available to me early in our relationship, first quite available in the initial years, and then less so for the next few years, and since her foray into the hotwife waters in 2020, fully off limits to me.

[slenderfish]

So we are now members in this new gym, less than a half a mile from our house. She wanted to join, and I told her to go ahead without me, but she insisted we do a couple's membership.

I've been twice now, to the yoga class with SW. She has taken an interest by befriend the (hot!) yoga instructor. Let's call her Ms. Yoga. Our second class with her was yesterday (Wednesday). SW cajoled me until I changed my schedule to accommodate attending this class.

After class, both times, SW made a point to stay after, and kind of flirt with this young woman. SW artfully asked Ms. Yoga to attend the club's social event on Saturday night, to make it a point to look for her. Ms. Yoga said she was not planning to attend this party, but will do so at SW's request. So we will be going out drinking on Saturday afternoon with some of our new friends from the party we hosted on the 4th of July, and then in the evening the date with Ms. Yoga. I'm pleased with this development, in that the new group of friends are really a bunch of successful professional guys with their attractive (but not "hot" girls). But Ms. Yoga is really impressive, and seems to be single.

SW gets right to it, when she is in this mode.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

Ms. Yoga - sounds great.
A party?
I think SW will be fierce.
Would she ask Ms. Yoga for a masaage ?

[william70]

SF: Just curious as to why all the different transitioning going on in your lives. Seems a little counter to your regular lifestyle. Any particular reasons?

[Marco]

Gotta love a lady who likes it in her ass

just saying

Yes. She knows her ass is the central sexy object and feature that attracts.

It was available to me early in our relationship, first quite available in the initial years, and then less so for the next few years, and since her foray into the hotwife waters in 2020, fully off limits to me.

So is it reserved to the lovers or she lost interest in being anally penetrated in general?

[slenderfish]

SF: Just curious as to why all the different transitioning going on in your lives. Seems a little counter to your regular lifestyle. Any particular reasons?

I used to live with my then-significant other in a very swanky part of town, before SW. This woman and I split up, and sold our property, and ultimately settled up on the winnings. I lived a bachelor lifestyle for a few years, then decided to date SW exclusively, then we married.

SW inherited many of these friends as I continued with them, even though SW and I moved about 45 minutes away, to another lovely neighborhood with a generally younger demographic. She indulged me in continuing these friendships and got very close to one of the women, especially during the pandemic. Turns out she shared her hotwife efforts with this woman (she was prominent in our story line).

Ultimately, the girls got into a fight (jealousy) and I stepped in to defend SW, calling on my guy friends to restrain the excessive drama from their girls. Didn't really work out the way I'd hoped, but I let everybody know that I will remain dedicated to SW and they can all go f___ themselves. Later we found out that the woman had shared SW's secrets with the other women and they all kind of went against her. So we let it go, knowing we have many other friends closer to where we live, and also from where I grew up about 35 minutes south (e.g. Mr. E and that crew).

[slenderfish]

So is it reserved to the lovers or she lost interest in being anally penetrated in general?

I introduced her to it and she was both curious and eager to please back then.

Her desire to please in that way seems to be oriented to the "newer" guy.

Though I must admit I haven't even tried to go there over the past couple of years. I was in more of an ass phase back in earlier years with SW.

[afagehi7]

1. Mr G is 100% an attention thing. Maybe he's not giving the same level of attention due to his wife or something else but i agree that's what happened. It's sw style.

2. Ms Yoga - I did not think SW was into chicks? Is FF a possibility here?

3. Friends - are transactional. Hotties all want to be the hottest and drama ensues. A real friend does not break trust and even an ex friend should keep secrets because its the right thing to do. I wouldn't even rat out a friend turned enemy unless they did it first. It seems like it was time to close that chapter and unless there are business dealings or financial ramifications, moving on is better than trying to fix it. If these guys were true friends they'd be in touch. It's not all on you because they can pick up the phone as easily as you and everyone knows when married we can't go against our spouses for friends.

Seems like a new chapter is a welcomed opportunity

[Tryn]

How did SW take being outed on her hotwife interests and experience? Separate from the other drama that surely surrounded it, of course.

[slenderfish]

How did SW take being outed on her hotwife interests and experience? Separate from the other drama that surely surrounded it, of course.

She was not happy and if she were a witch she would cast a terrible spell on this woman. The woman not only shared this secret but went out of her way to use whatever she had to turn the other girls against SW, including lying about SW to other mutual girlfriends, which caused a domino effect.

I saw it coming and branded them "mean girls" (clear reference to the movie) to the wider group. The moniker stuck, so at least there is that satisfaction.

Of course, the whole dynamic between these women is based on petty jealousy.

[slenderfish]

SW does seem to be on an upswing for fun/trouble.

She had an appointment for hair in an upscale part of town. She goes to a famous hair stylist. Apparently the stylist's assistant called SW to come in earlier than scheduled, because of a sudden conflict with an "A-list" client (not SW). So SW accommodated and asked me to coordinate my schedule in order to meet her in this part of town, on a Friday late afternoon, for happy hour.

And I did so.

She was all fancied up, summer dress, etc. and I took her to a well-known restaurant with a hot bar. We were on the early side and I had a martini while she had a glass of wine, and we also ordered some light food. She was revved up and kept rubbing her foot on my leg, under the cocktail table.

After about 90 minutes I noted that we should check the parking situation for our cars. She ran out and fed the meter while I kept our table, but I had a half hour still remaining. She then noted that the dogs had been alone since 12:30 p.m. and needed attention, that we should probably head home. So I paid the tab and headed to my car. She was finishing up the last of her wine and said she would see me at home, a few minutes behind me.

After exiting the parking structure, I got a call from her and she suggested that she prefers staying and "waiting out traffic" instead. That she would call a girlfriend who works close to that area, to join her for another hour or two.

[Tryn]

How did SW take being outed on her hotwife interests and experience? Separate from the other drama that surely surrounded it, of course.

She was not happy and if she were a witch she would cast a terrible spell on this woman. The woman not only shared this secret but went out of her way to use whatever she had to turn the other girls against SW, including lying about SW to other mutual girlfriends, which caused a domino effect.

I saw it coming and branded them "mean girls" (clear reference to the movie) to the wider group. The moniker stuck, so at least there is that satisfaction.

Of course, the whole dynamic between these women is based on petty jealousy.

Did SW feel anything other than anger over being betrayed? Such as embarrassment for having been with 2 different guys when she was back home, or empowered, or something else. I’m assuming the mean girls know of her hw experiences. Did she feel like she was a horrible person or a “dirty slut”, or did she feel a bit empowered for being able to do something they cannot? Does being outed make her want to abandon the whole hw world, have no effect on her interest, or cause her to be more determined to find a new guy to play with?

I wonder if Mr. G’s wife got wind of the hw exploration of SW and put pressure on her husband to distance himself. Perhaps you can assist your wife with finding a trainer that likes to work hard and play hard?


Lastly, given your time with your sex therapist, have you and SW had real conversations on hotwifing and moving forward with it? Hearing about what she says when you’re getting it on is always hot to read about, but perhaps she doesn’t see those exchanges as “real” but rather as a hot fantasy.

[Long Lurker 34]

How did SW take being outed on her hotwife interests and experience? Separate from the other drama that surely surrounded it, of course.

She was not happy and if she were a witch she would cast a terrible spell on this woman. The woman not only shared this secret but went out of her way to use whatever she had to turn the other girls against SW, including lying about SW to other mutual girlfriends, which caused a domino effect.

I saw it coming and branded them "mean girls" (clear reference to the movie) to the wider group. The moniker stuck, so at least there is that satisfaction.

Of course, the whole dynamic between these women is based on petty jealousy.

SF - I would bet this woman in relating SW HWing activities said to the other women something along the lines of, "SW is going try to get your guys to cheat with her." And that by it's self is enough to do irreparable harm. Sort of fox in the hen house as it were.

[slenderfish]

SF - I would bet this woman in relating SW HWing activities said to the other women something along the lines of, "SW is going try to get your guys to cheat with her." And that by it's self is enough to do irreparable harm. Sort of fox in the hen house as it were.

To be honest, I don't think this is part of the equation. Here's the deal from my viewpoint.

I made a new friend over 10 years ago with a recently-divorced guy who then joined my "boys' night" that had been going already for almost 10 years. He has a lot of personality and money and over time he dated and SW and I met the various girlfriends, etc. He really liked SW and his "type" is similar to mine, apparently. He ultimately settled on one lovely blonde not too different from SW, and they dated exclusively. This girlfriend was "new" to the set of people and embraced SW as her new best friend, since SW was about the only woman in this man's life who didn't carry over from his married days. The new girlfriend was leery of any single woman in the group.

The guy's divorce was a big financial hit to him and he vowed never to marry again. And he kept that vow. We became very close as couples and traveled the world, etc. together for over 10 years.

He is a bit of an alpha personality and I'm more chill, but I am also very competitive and challenged him, which not many other guys would do. He is a fabulous skier (he skis about 100 days each year) and I'm one of the only ones he knows who can keep up with him on the slopes. So we ran as equals at the top of our social group. He threw parties with many guests, and so did I. We kept upgrading the parties, kind of as a challenge to each other and showing off to our many mutual friends. We kind of took turns in that way.

A lot of the other women saw SW and the lifestyle and the committed husband (me) and her beauty and that she was always the one with the attention and the life of the party. The new girlfriend was unhappy that my friend didn't splurge on her, resisted buying her the nicer clothes, etc. Over time, it became apparent this woman was in her own way jealous of SW in that we truly approach everything as joint in our marriage, while this woman was stuck in a non-marriage situation with a less-than-complete commitment from her guy.

As she stayed with this guy, she started to mirror and mimic his "alpha" style but she ended up alienating SW who demanded proper friendship.

She also began alienating different people who were close to her guy. Family members, longtime friends, people at his company got fired because she went against them, etc. But of course my friend is blinded to it all. Believes everything that comes out of her mouth. I mean, he has to live with her (his choice).

Other women saw the opportunity to get in close with the girlfriend in order to glean the lifestyle benefits from her guy. Thus started the rift. SW was not willing to become a sycophant to this woman. Over the course of the past five years, different women became close to SW and then used this closeness against SW in order to become the "new best friend" of the guy's girlfriend. The most recent iteration of this was with the one with whom SW shared the hotwife secret. The division didn't have anything to do with the secret, but rather good old-fashioned mean girls stuff (from 5-6 grade middle school). The telling of the secret was just additional insult to injury.

As I saw all this developing I took my friend out to dinner and asked him to intercede before it got too much momentum and out of control. He doesn't really run deep so didn't take my request to heart, and it did spin out of control. At that point, he did give it a try but quickly let me know it would be of no use.

This all culminated at the big party I threw for SW for her birthday in 2023. It was the best party yet, well planned and my buddy was co-planner. He supplied the wine as his gift to the party and to SW. There was about 70 people in attendance. In looking back, this was the peak of the girlfriend's jealousy, as she believed she should have had that kind of party thrown for her, before SW. Beginning right after that party, she began the earnest effort to show division, and she let all the girls who were willing to be swayed, to pledge fealty and to prove it by distancing from SW.

I let my buddy know that I expect better from someone who considers me his "closest friend" and that he didn't put in the work when it was needed. And we are now just acquaintances who used to be best friends.

Of course, his girl continues to drive wedges between us whenever she finds the opportunity, and her crew of sycophants follow suit. Perhaps one day she will tire of it and move to a new target.

And the one with SW's secrets is now the "bestie" of this girlfriend. Though not a long-term fit, as time will prove.

In summary, and to answer the question, I believe the hotwife revelation was just another element to add to the girls' jealousies.

[Long Lurker 34]

SF - I would bet this woman in relating SW HWing activities said to the other women something along the lines of, "SW is going try to get your guys to cheat with her." And that by it's self is enough to do irreparable harm. Sort of fox in the hen house as it were.

To be honest, I don't think this is part of the equation. Here's the deal from my viewpoint.

I made a new friend over 10 years ago with a recently-divorced guy who then joined my "boys' night" that had been going already for almost 10 years. He has a lot of personality and money and over time he dated and SW and I met the various girlfriends, etc. He really liked SW and his "type" is similar to mine, apparently. He ultimately settled on one lovely blonde not too different from SW, and they dated exclusively. This girlfriend was "new" to the set of people and embraced SW as her new best friend, since SW was about the only woman in this man's life who didn't carry over from his married days. The new girlfriend was leery of any single woman in the group.

The guy's divorce was a big financial hit to him and he vowed never to marry again. And he kept that vow. We became very close as couples and traveled the world, etc. together for over 10 years.

He is a bit of an alpha personality and I'm more chill, but I am also very competitive and challenged him, which not many other guys would do. He is a fabulous skier (he skis about 100 days each year) and I'm one of the only ones he knows who can keep up with him on the slopes. So we ran as equals at the top of our social group. He threw parties with many guests, and so did I. We kept upgrading the parties, kind of as a challenge to each other and showing off to our many mutual friends. We kind of took turns in that way.

A lot of the other women saw SW and the lifestyle and the committed husband (me) and her beauty and that she was always the one with the attention and the life of the party. The new girlfriend was unhappy that my friend didn't splurge on her, resisted buying her the nicer clothes, etc. Over time, it became apparent this woman was in her own way jealous of SW in that we truly approach everything as joint in our marriage, while this woman was stuck in a non-marriage situation with a less-than-complete commitment from her guy.

As she stayed with this guy, she started to mirror and mimic his "alpha" style but she ended up alienating SW who demanded proper friendship.

She also began alienating different people who were close to her guy. Family members, longtime friends, people at his company got fired because she went against them, etc. But of course my friend is blinded to it all. Believes everything that comes out of her mouth. I mean, he has to live with her (his choice).

Other women saw the opportunity to get in close with the girlfriend in order to glean the lifestyle benefits from her guy. Thus started the rift. SW was not willing to become a sycophant to this woman. Over the course of the past five years, different women became close to SW and then used this closeness against SW in order to become the "new best friend" of the guy's girlfriend. The most recent iteration of this was with the one with whom SW shared the hotwife secret. The division didn't have anything to do with the secret, but rather good old-fashioned mean girls stuff (from 5-6 grade middle school). The telling of the secret was just additional insult to injury.

As I saw all this developing I took my friend out to dinner and asked him to intercede before it got too much momentum and out of control. He doesn't really run deep so didn't take my request to heart, and it did spin out of control. At that point, he did give it a try but quickly let me know it would be of no use.

This all culminated at the big party I threw for SW for her birthday in 2023. It was the best party yet, well planned and my buddy was co-planner. He supplied the wine as his gift to the party and to SW. There was about 70 people in attendance. In looking back, this was the peak of the girlfriend's jealousy, as she believed she should have had that kind of party thrown for her, before SW. Beginning right after that party, she began the earnest effort to show division, and she let all the girls who were willing to be swayed, to pledge fealty and to prove it by distancing from SW.

I let my buddy know that I expect better from someone who considers me his "closest friend" and that he didn't put in the work when it was needed. And we are now just acquaintances who used to be best friends.

Of course, his girl continues to drive wedges between us whenever she finds the opportunity, and her crew of sycophants follow suit. Perhaps one day she will tire of it and move to a new target.

And the one with SW's secrets is now the "bestie" of this girlfriend. Though not a long-term fit, as time will prove.

In summary, and to answer the question, I believe the hotwife revelation was just another element to add to the girls' jealousies.

SF - Yes I believe you wrote about that party.
- And I get it about your friend's GF, jealousy etc. Once she has managed to wreck enough friend and business relationships perhaps he will start to see the damage done and give her a toss.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

Did I understand correctly that SW shared that she is a hot wife with her girlfriend.
Is this form of activity already easily recognizable?
I wonder what her girlfriends' reaction will be that she has the green light to have sex with other guys. And she does it, because what's the point of having a green light and not using it...
Do you know if SW shared any details about her HW experiences with a girlfriend?