It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[w770]

"Hotel sex kit"?

That's a bit 'old hat', surely? They should be offering a variety of options.
And Lana should have chosen the 'Hotel cuckold kit'.

Any suggestions as to what that might contain?

I never heard of a hotel offering sex kits? Unless it was some sort of cheap rent by the hour sex hotel.

Haha, nah, it's a nice place actually. We've stayed here before because it's right next to the park for the dogs, and all of these hotels need to have their little themes to give themselves a bit of personality. This place leans heavily into the hip, cool, and modern vibe and I guess these sex kits are a part of that. A seedy motel does have hot qualities to it, but Lana would in no way ever entertain that idea. I always try and get her to stay at a haunted hotel but that idea is also always dead on arrival.

Any reason why you don’t use ‘his’ name? Do you plan to use it at some point?

I originally didn't want to use his name because I wanted to protect his privacy, even though I understand the irony - he invited himself over and fucked my wife while I was walking the dogs - and then I guess the inertia of leaving his name out of it took over. But I guess at this point, I guess it couldn't hurt knowing his name, which is Shawn.

Lana and I are working today, her from the hotel room while I go into the office. It's strange to think about the last time I was here, I was listening to Shawn cuck me in the bed I share with Lana. I mentioned this to her this morning, and she came up with the idea to call me at some random point in the day and play with her toy while pretending it's Shawn again. We've also been increasing the humiliating sentiments as we make love to see how far the line should be and what I can handle when the act is taking place in our bed hopefully by the end of this week. Turns out, I can take much more than what she was anticipating.

In other news, Superman (I guess I'll interchange using Superman and Shawn) sent another picture of her panties on his desk next to his computer with the message "thinking of you." She plans to message him back sometime this week to see if he's around this weekend for some fun.

[william70]

I never heard of a hotel offering sex kits? Unless it was some sort of cheap rent by the hour sex hotel.

LOL, quite the opposite. There are some higher end, more enlightened hotels offering such amenities in their mini bars for a modest fee. I have not personally run into such progress but I remember reading an article a decade and a half ago in NY Times. I'm sure you can still find articles on the subject using Google!

I "googled" it, and sure enough some hotels do offer intimacy or sex kits. Never too old to learn something.

[slenderfish]

I've been reading this thread and catching up for the past few days, not wanting to jump ahead, and also restraining myself from any commenting "out of proper order" but I'm now at present time. A few notes:

- I wish SW and I were you and Lana

- As I was catching up, of course the sun does not rest and I kept getting this "chasing a speeding train" feeling. So much so, that I am mentioning it here. Is it a runaway train? I will tell you one thing, as smart as I think I am (and W770 seems to be very smart), emotions and life come from nature which is inherently not controllable. So we fool ourselves into thinking that we are in control with our logic, our rhetoric, etc. and it becomes a blind spot in itself. My point here is that this is the best of times and I congratulate you both, but of course plan for the unexpected and remember your love for each other, etc.

- Nobody has yet posited that Shawn (as young and dumb as he is) had (or has) already previously sussed your relationship as one ripe for cuckoldry. Again, nature in this case (I won't give him credit for being smart) but he has admittedly fucked married women and he's into it. I would think by now he would have either stumbled into this dynamic or at least read about it or heard about it (on the internet, let's remember he's 25 yrs old and therefore came of age via internet porn, and/or via guy friends). Please consider that perhaps he has been pushing Lana (and you) into it and has a lot more planned for you, if and when you (both) open that door. I'll note that he spends a lot of time at the gym (in California!). I am aware that the cliche of muscular and testosterone-maxed trainers do get together with their hot female (and often married) clients, and the whole dominance over the wife (and husband) thing is not unusual. My wife ran into this with her personal trainer some time ago (well before Mr. G) who basically invited her to join his harem of wives who submit to him, etc. (She wasn't into it.) Shawn may already be aware of all this, and perhaps experienced some of it. My point here is that you (and other readers of this string) should kick this around as a possibility, and game out how to manage it in advance, should it go down this path.

I'll agree this is one of the hottest and well-written threads ever. Almost too good to be true. But life is sometimes like this, and we are all thankful for your candid comments and the effort it takes to share like you are.

Congratulations on your fabulous wife, life, and progress.

Can't wait for the next chapters to unfold!

[w770]

I've been reading this thread and catching up for the past few days, not wanting to jump ahead, and also restraining myself from any commenting "out of proper order" but I'm now at present time. A few notes:

- I wish SW and I were you and Lana

- As I was catching up, of course the sun does not rest and I kept getting this "chasing a speeding train" feeling. So much so, that I am mentioning it here. Is it a runaway train? I will tell you one thing, as smart as I think I am (and W770 seems to be very smart), emotions and life come from nature which is inherently not controllable. So we fool ourselves into thinking that we are in control with our logic, our rhetoric, etc. and it becomes a blind spot in itself. My point here is that this is the best of times and I congratulate you both, but of course plan for the unexpected and remember your love for each other, etc.

- Nobody has yet posited that Shawn (as young and dumb as he is) had (or has) already previously sussed your relationship as one ripe for cuckoldry. Again, nature in this case (I won't give him credit for being smart) but he has admittedly fucked married women and he's into it. I would think by now he would have either stumbled into this dynamic or at least read about it or heard about it (on the internet, let's remember he's 25 yrs old and therefore came of age via internet porn, and/or via guy friends). Please consider that perhaps he has been pushing Lana (and you) into it and has a lot more planned for you, if and when you (both) open that door. I'll note that he spends a lot of time at the gym (in California!). I am aware that the cliche of muscular and testosterone-maxed trainers do get together with their hot female (and often married) clients, and the whole dominance over the wife (and husband) thing is not unusual. My wife ran into this with her personal trainer some time ago (well before Mr. G) who basically invited her to join his harem of wives who submit to him, etc. (She wasn't into it.) Shawn may already be aware of all this, and perhaps experienced some of it. My point here is that you (and other readers of this string) should kick this around as a possibility, and game out how to manage it in advance, should it go down this path.

I'll agree this is one of the hottest and well-written threads ever. Almost too good to be true. But life is sometimes like this, and we are all thankful for your candid comments and the effort it takes to share like you are.

Congratulations on your fabulous wife, life, and progress.

Can't wait for the next chapters to unfold!

Thanks for your message! I think it's mostly difficult to really pinpoint Shawn's motivations outside of my own assumptions of who he is because I really don't know much about the guy, and like you alluded to, he may be playing out a role as much as Lana and myself are. If we're to believe his story, Lana is the 2nd or 3rd (depending on how you count it) married woman that he's successfully gotten to spread her legs for him, and it definitely seems like he takes a liking to it. Perhaps in my naiveté or blind spots I haven't yet been able to notice, I always assumed that he was just a horny 25 year old, but you could be right in the sentiment that he is smarter than we believe him to be and that he's playing into the role of a bull for a cheating or willing wife.

My life for the past 2 weeks has not felt one bit real and I'm still waking up in the middle of the night, questioning what time line I'm in. I've always envied the other guys in this forum for having wives that so openly leaned into this fantasy, and now that I'm one of them, it's hard to accept. I mean, how often is it that you get to live out a fantasy?

[Chrislydi]

The expression that all the stars were aligned comes to mind as never more true. it's the perfect coming together of a couple looking to use someone with bullish attributes and a dominant persona meeting the young, cocky, self assured and super confident Shawn, a young man himself on the prowl and always on the look out for the right opportunity. He exudes a knowing and inbuilt confidence in his own abilities to attract and seduce any woman, knowing as he does that he has both an impressive physique and a huge cock which is more than enough for the most demanding of suitors. He smells out his victim and reads the signs, has sensed the open goal and taken his chance. His radar is finely tuned to smelling out opportunity so that he's sensed the signals and honed in on his prey, he probably knew he could easily conquer Lana and overcome any doubts very early on, and his instincts have once again proven spot on, correct and in good working order.

He's taken advantage of the situation because for him it was easy and he can, it's in his nature to recognise the signals. It's not so much evidence of any super intelligence but more a finely tuned and perfectly primed instinctive reaction. The fact that he hasn't much of a filter is all to the good and very lucky, both chance and circumstance being so exactly matched that it becomes an inevitability that something will happen when it's so wanted. Maybe not so much the Shakespearean Romeo and Juliet scenario of star crossed lovers, but they've definitely got some of those stars aligned in exactly the correct places and order for them to meet right now, and for something so exciting as this to happen.

Chris

[desertsub]

Don't underestimate him because he's only 25, my wife fucked a 25 year old guy a few years ago who was a very experienced bull and he told us that he had no interest in having a girlfriend as he was totally into the cuckolding thing. He said he actually started when he was in high school! He said he got hit on by an older woman while working out at the gym when he was 17 and started having sex with her, eventually fucking her in front of her husband. From that point on he knew he wanted to be a bull and fuck other men's wives. When we met him he had been at it for 8 years and he definitely knew his way in the cuckolding lifestyle

[hiki]

last time I was here, I was listening to Shawn cuck me in the bed I share with Lana. I mentioned this to her this morning, and she came up with the idea to call me at some random point in the day and play with her toy while pretending it's Shawn again. We've also been increasing the humiliating sentiments as we make love to see how far the line should be and what I can handle when the act is taking place in our bed hopefully by the end of this week. Turns out, I can take much more than what she was anticipating.

So hot! Probably a bit distracting to have those memories triggered at work! If you're OK with sharing, what kind of humiliations has she tried on you?

[w770]

The expression that all the stars were aligned comes to mind as never more true. it's the perfect coming together of a couple looking to use someone with bullish attributes and a dominant persona meeting the young, cocky, self assured and super confident Shawn, a young man himself on the prowl and always on the look out for the right opportunity. He exudes a knowing and inbuilt confidence in his own abilities to attract and seduce any woman, knowing as he does that he has both an impressive physique and a huge cock which is more than enough for the most demanding of suitors. He smells out his victim and reads the signs, has sensed the open goal and taken his chance. His radar is finely tuned to smelling out opportunity so that he's sensed the signals and honed in on his prey, he probably knew he could easily conquer Lana and overcome any doubts very early on, and his instincts have once again proven spot on, correct and in good working order.

He's taken advantage of the situation because for him it was easy and he can, it's in his nature to recognise the signals. It's not so much evidence of any super intelligence but more a finely tuned and perfectly primed instinctive reaction. The fact that he hasn't much of a filter is all to the good and very lucky, both chance and circumstance being so exactly matched that it becomes an inevitability that something will happen when it's so wanted. Maybe not so much the Shakespearean Romeo and Juliet scenario of star crossed lovers, but they've definitely got some of those stars aligned in exactly the correct places and order for them to meet right now, and for something so exciting as this to happen.

Chris

Your description perfectly embodies the type of sex they have as it stems from their natural and almost primal attraction to each other physically, and as a result, the sex between them is raucous, passionate, and aggressive whereas the love making between Lana and myself is much more rooted in our commitment to each other, our shared history of 15 years together, and simply love and sentimentality. The contrast couldn't be more apparent, and I'm sure it will be made all the more clear if and when I actually watch them.

Don't underestimate him because he's only 25, my wife fucked a 25 year old guy a few years ago who was a very experienced bull and he told us that he had no interest in having a girlfriend as he was totally into the cuckolding thing. He said he actually started when he was in high school! He said he got hit on by an older woman while working out at the gym when he was 17 and started having sex with her, eventually fucking her in front of her husband. From that point on he knew he wanted to be a bull and fuck other men's wives. When we met him he had been at it for 8 years and he definitely knew his way in the cuckolding lifestyle

I guess that plays into what I was saying about my naiveté in assuming his mental state and sexual experience at 25 was much the same as mine, but it's clear now that I couldn't have been more wrong. I've known a guy like Superman years ago, who had a fondness for fucking girls that had boyfriends and married women, and interestingly enough, Lana and him were friends with benefits. Maybe there's something about guys like him that attract women like Lana.

last time I was here, I was listening to Shawn cuck me in the bed I share with Lana. I mentioned this to her this morning, and she came up with the idea to call me at some random point in the day and play with her toy while pretending it's Shawn again. We've also been increasing the humiliating sentiments as we make love to see how far the line should be and what I can handle when the act is taking place in our bed hopefully by the end of this week. Turns out, I can take much more than what she was anticipating.

So hot! Probably a bit distracting to have those memories triggered at work! If you're OK with sharing, what kind of humiliations has she tried on you?

So last night when we were having sex, Lana eased into the humiliation. Light touches at first, namely comments that were shared between her and Superman already such as my inability to make her cum, the size of his cock compared to mine, etc. She then moved the line slightly further, mainly expanding on the previous comments about how Shawn has made her cum harder than I ever have, how he's the best she's ever had, how his friends all saw her basically naked after she swallowed his cum, etc. She then started screaming his name and telling me to cum inside of her when she sensed that I was about to finish.

There's always that slightly awkward moment between the world of dirty sex talk and the real world, but it all seems to fade away as soon as we're laying next to each other again, confessing our love to each other.

[hubudig2]

Your description perfectly embodies the type of sex they have as it stems from their natural and almost primal attraction to each other physically, and as a result, the sex between them is raucous, passionate, and aggressive whereas the love making between Lana and myself is much more rooted in our commitment to each other, our shared history of 15 years together, and simply love and sentimentality. The contrast couldn't be more apparent, and I'm sure it will be made all the more clear if and when I actually watch them.

Forgive me, I always feel like an ignorant black sheep and a bit of an asshole when I ask these kinds of questions.
Feel free to just call me an asshole but I'm honestly just really interested...
I'm assuming in the early days you would've had the kind of sex that they do now? Obviously with different equipment sizes.
When did that wear off and why? Do you not want to give her that kind of sex? Or does she know that you can't please her in that way and is no longer willing to "let" you try?
I find it a crazy notion that she will only "let" you fuck, sorry, make love to her missionary. Are you submissive to her?
Is it just size that prevents you from pleasing her in that way?

I obviously don't understand the perspective, I understand the bull perspective but have big gaps in my understanding of this.
I find it both psychologically fascinating and it honestly scares the shit out of me to consider being in this situation, no offense at all intended to those that enjoy it but there must be plenty of guys that don't enjoy it but find themselves in a similar sexual/marital situation.

[slenderfish]

Your description perfectly embodies the type of sex they have as it stems from their natural and almost primal attraction to each other physically, and as a result, the sex between them is raucous, passionate, and aggressive whereas the love making between Lana and myself is much more rooted in our commitment to each other, our shared history of 15 years together, and simply love and sentimentality. The contrast couldn't be more apparent, and I'm sure it will be made all the more clear if and when I actually watch them.

Forgive me, I always feel like an ignorant black sheep and a bit of an asshole when I ask these kinds of questions.
Feel free to just call me an asshole but I'm honestly just really interested...
I'm assuming in the early days you would've had the kind of sex that they do now? Obviously with different equipment sizes.
When did that wear off and why? Do you not want to give her that kind of sex? Or does she know that you can't please her in that way and is no longer willing to "let" you try?
I find it a crazy notion that she will only "let" you fuck, sorry, make love to her missionary. Are you submissive to her?
Is it just size that prevents you from pleasing her in that way?

I obviously don't understand the perspective, I understand the bull perspective but have big gaps in my understanding of this.
I find it both psychologically fascinating and it honestly scares the shit out of me to consider being in this situation, no offense at all intended to those that enjoy it but there must be plenty of guys that don't enjoy it but find themselves in a similar sexual/marital situation.

This is an interesting point. It kind of hits home with me and SW.

In the beginning, when we were first dating, I was certain that she prefers an aggressive, dominant man. I went out of my way to provide that to her, for her, because of how she responded.

She knew that I expected sex when I saw her, and that nothing was off limits with me. She readily gave oral, with passion and vigor, and eagerly swallowed. I could come on her face without asking. She rode me in any position I preferred, we had sex in public places, etc. She knew I expected her to give up her anal cherry to me, and as we got more serious she did so without hesitation, and had a huge orgasm the first time.

She told me she never had a vaginal orgasm until me.

Then we got married and over time, things changed after a few years. She started using a vibrator to reach orgasm. She no longer desired to please me, to get on top, to sit on my face. She always has reasons ("I'm not clean down there") and also, in recent years, insists we keep it more vanilla and much prefers only missionary. I always thought this was just a natural decline in sex drive, etc. with changing hormones, excess familiarity, etc.

But now I wonder (from thinking prompted by this post) if this is a bit of a natural result of the power dynamics having shifted completely around. In other words, perhaps I changed my behavior to one of more submissive, in my desire to get her with another man. And once she took a lover, the dynamic completed its shift. She now has the power and we tend to do things her way (including sex). I'm now the same guy as w770 in that respect; with a hot blonde workout wife but she now looks to me for missionary sex, safe home life, and creature comforts. She did try hotwifing for a time, and still likes to make the occasional reference to her preference for tall men with big cocks (e.g. bigger than me), but hasn't been active with another man for almost two years now.

I've been thinking, kind of like w770's experience, that it is just a matter of crossing paths with that one guy who lights her fire, and she'll be right back into the thick of hotwifing. In the meantime, I'm waiting and hoping and supporting, etc. And stuck with missionary, by and large.

[hubudig2]

Then we got married and over time, things changed after a few years. She started using a vibrator to reach orgasm. She no longer desired to please me, to get on top, to sit on my face. She always has reasons ("I'm not clean down there") and also, in recent years, insists we keep it more vanilla and much prefers only missionary. I always thought this was just a natural decline in sex drive, etc. with changing hormones, excess familiarity, etc.

But now I wonder (from thinking prompted by this post) if this is a bit of a natural result of the power dynamics having shifted completely around. In other words, perhaps I changed my behavior to one of more submissive, in my desire to get her with another man.

Thanks for responding to me, I'm sorry I don't think I know your story but I will read it tomorrow for sure.
I would normally PM this but I think it may still be relevant to the thread.
What you said makes a lot of sense, I guess that's what I expected it to be like.
I've been with my wife 12-18 years depending on when you count it from (we got together at school, she moved away because her parents moved and then we visited each other and fucked while she was with every bf she had and then she moved back to be with me).
I think the same shift might have happened if I let it but whenever I notice any reduction in her submission to me (and it happens), I put in some effort to get things back to how they were.

Do you not miss how it used to be?
Do you think you could get it back to how it used to be? Could you not "light her fire" again? Or just assert dominance to have more than just missionary? For a one off? Or for good?
When you say sex is now done her way, surely she would prefer the sex you used to have aswell?
Would you say you were putting on a facade of dominance for her back then and as you stopped so did her submission?
Thanks again

[w770]

Your description perfectly embodies the type of sex they have as it stems from their natural and almost primal attraction to each other physically, and as a result, the sex between them is raucous, passionate, and aggressive whereas the love making between Lana and myself is much more rooted in our commitment to each other, our shared history of 15 years together, and simply love and sentimentality. The contrast couldn't be more apparent, and I'm sure it will be made all the more clear if and when I actually watch them.

Forgive me, I always feel like an ignorant black sheep and a bit of an asshole when I ask these kinds of questions.
Feel free to just call me an asshole but I'm honestly just really interested...
I'm assuming in the early days you would've had the kind of sex that they do now? Obviously with different equipment sizes.
When did that wear off and why? Do you not want to give her that kind of sex? Or does she know that you can't please her in that way and is no longer willing to "let" you try?
I find it a crazy notion that she will only "let" you fuck, sorry, make love to her missionary. Are you submissive to her?
Is it just size that prevents you from pleasing her in that way?

I obviously don't understand the perspective, I understand the bull perspective but have big gaps in my understanding of this.
I find it both psychologically fascinating and it honestly scares the shit out of me to consider being in this situation, no offense at all intended to those that enjoy it but there must be plenty of guys that don't enjoy it but find themselves in a similar sexual/marital situation.

Don't worry about saying the wrong thing. I always tell people that it's impossible to offend me because I never take anything personally, even personal attacks. We all have a story.

You're right in that Lana and I used to have sex like Superman and her have sex now. We did multiple positions with a lot of passion and energy with an uncontrollable desire for each other. I'm not really sure where things changed, but she started to only want missionary years ago as she claimed that she wanted to only feel the intimate energy between us. She also mentioned how other positions, namely doggy, made her feel slutty. It became a sort of turn on for me to be denied every time I would attempt to position her differently, knowing that every other partner she's ever had took her in every imaginable position. Recently, the reason we only make love in missionary is due to the same, yet enhanced need to feel that intimate bond between us after Superman has just dominated her and used her body, but also because the feeling of his cum makes it so I don't last longer than a few thrusts.

Your description perfectly embodies the type of sex they have as it stems from their natural and almost primal attraction to each other physically, and as a result, the sex between them is raucous, passionate, and aggressive whereas the love making between Lana and myself is much more rooted in our commitment to each other, our shared history of 15 years together, and simply love and sentimentality. The contrast couldn't be more apparent, and I'm sure it will be made all the more clear if and when I actually watch them.

Forgive me, I always feel like an ignorant black sheep and a bit of an asshole when I ask these kinds of questions.
Feel free to just call me an asshole but I'm honestly just really interested...
I'm assuming in the early days you would've had the kind of sex that they do now? Obviously with different equipment sizes.
When did that wear off and why? Do you not want to give her that kind of sex? Or does she know that you can't please her in that way and is no longer willing to "let" you try?
I find it a crazy notion that she will only "let" you fuck, sorry, make love to her missionary. Are you submissive to her?
Is it just size that prevents you from pleasing her in that way?

I obviously don't understand the perspective, I understand the bull perspective but have big gaps in my understanding of this.
I find it both psychologically fascinating and it honestly scares the shit out of me to consider being in this situation, no offense at all intended to those that enjoy it but there must be plenty of guys that don't enjoy it but find themselves in a similar sexual/marital situation.

This is an interesting point. It kind of hits home with me and SW.

In the beginning, when we were first dating, I was certain that she prefers an aggressive, dominant man. I went out of my way to provide that to her, for her, because of how she responded.

She knew that I expected sex when I saw her, and that nothing was off limits with me. She readily gave oral, with passion and vigor, and eagerly swallowed. I could come on her face without asking. She rode me in any position I preferred, we had sex in public places, etc. She knew I expected her to give up her anal cherry to me, and as we got more serious she did so without hesitation, and had a huge orgasm the first time.

She told me she never had a vaginal orgasm until me.

Then we got married and over time, things changed after a few years. She started using a vibrator to reach orgasm. She no longer desired to please me, to get on top, to sit on my face. She always has reasons ("I'm not clean down there") and also, in recent years, insists we keep it more vanilla and much prefers only missionary. I always thought this was just a natural decline in sex drive, etc. with changing hormones, excess familiarity, etc.

But now I wonder (from thinking prompted by this post) if this is a bit of a natural result of the power dynamics having shifted completely around. In other words, perhaps I changed my behavior to one of more submissive, in my desire to get her with another man. And once she took a lover, the dynamic completed its shift. She now has the power and we tend to do things her way (including sex). I'm now the same guy as w770 in that respect; with a hot blonde workout wife but she now looks to me for missionary sex, safe home life, and creature comforts. She did try hotwifing for a time, and still likes to make the occasional reference to her preference for tall men with big cocks (e.g. bigger than me), but hasn't been active with another man for almost two years now.

I've been thinking, kind of like w770's experience, that it is just a matter of crossing paths with that one guy who lights her fire, and she'll be right back into the thick of hotwifing. In the meantime, I'm waiting and hoping and supporting, etc. And stuck with missionary, by and large.

There are parts of this that remind me a lot of my situation with Lana. In a way, missionary became "our" position, which is why it was such a turn on when Superman, not only took her in what she considered "slutty" positions, but he also made love to her in missionary. And on top of that, the fact that he so easily makes her cum in the one position I take her in compounds my humiliation and solidifies his position as the alpha lover.

[trecital]

I think that most of this change in the way that husbands and wives have sex is down to age and familiarity.

w770 is (if I remember correctly) 41 years old. Sman/Shawn is 25. When I was 25 I could fuck like a rabbit (or whatever animal you want to compare to). Suffice to say, it could be vigorous and animalistic if I wanted it to be. And it often was. I could also do it 4 times a day if necessary. Now I'm 66 and being 'vigorous and animalistic' is that bit harder. Plus it just seems so unnecessary. A longer and slower approach seems more appropriate. I don't want it to be over in five minutes. Partly because I can only manage it aproxiamately once every two days. So I like to make it last a lot longer each time.
There's definitely an age dynamic going on in w770 and Smans case.

Then there's 'familiarity'. That old saying "familiarity breeds contempt" has some truth in it. Sometimes we can take for granted those things that once seemed special. Personally it's something I've always tried to guard against. I always try to change the emphasis of the ways we have sex. To try old things. To invent new fantasies. To look out for new toys. Or simply to revisit old ideas. It's worth working hard to try to inject some freshness in to your sex life, all the time.

I think that Lana's excitement with Sman/Shawn is partly to do with rekindling that early, more anamalistic sex that she had with w770. Is that right? His having a big cock also helps.

Message here, guys, is don't let it get stale and repetitive. There's a reason you don't watch the same film every time, or read the same book. So why have sex the same way every time?

[w770]

I think that most of this change in the way that husbands and wives have sex is down to age and familiarity.

w770 is (if I remember correctly) 41 years old. Sman/Shawn is 25. When I was 25 I could fuck like a rabbit (or whatever animal you want to compare to). Suffice to say, it could be vigorous and animalistic if I wanted it to be. And it often was. I could also do it 4 times a day if necessary. Now I'm 66 and being 'vigorous and animalistic' is that bit harder. Plus it just seems so unnecessary. A longer and slower approach seems more appropriate. I don't want it to be over in five minutes. Partly because I can only manage it aproxiamately once every two days. So I like to make it last a lot longer each time.
There's definitely an age dynamic going on in w770 and Smans case.

Then there's 'familiarity'. That old saying "familiarity breeds contempt" has some truth in it. Sometimes we can take for granted those things that once seemed special. Personally it's something I've always tried to guard against. I always try to change the emphasis of the ways we have sex. To try old things. To invent new fantasies. To look out for new toys. Or simply to revisit old ideas. It's worth working hard to try to inject some freshness in to your sex life, all the time.

I think that Lana's excitement with Sman/Shawn is partly to do with rekindling that early, more anamalistic sex that she had with w770. Is that right? His having a big cock also helps.

Message here, guys, is don't let it get stale and repetitive. There's a reason you don't watch the same film every time, or read the same book. So why have sex the same way every time?

A lot of what you're saying definitely hits home. Lana and I have become very "familiar" of sorts and part of that is unavoidable as we've been together for 15 years now so Shawn has that as an advantage over me to add to his list of many. There's also the dynamic of their short lived relationship where she views it as one of no consequences, so she's free to have less inhibitions and allows herself to do things that she would otherwise consider "slutty". So while she rejects me whenever I try and put her in another position, she will willingly get on all fours for him.

Slight Update: As a way to ease me in mentally to what will hopefully happen this weekend, Lana and Shawn got on FaceTime last night and masturbated to each other while I sat on the couch and just listened. I watched her play with her toy while she stared at her phone at him stroking his hard cock telling her what he was going to do to her on our bed the next time he sees her. I don't think he knew or cared that I was right there listening and I'm pretty sure Lana soon forgot about my presence as well. The dirty talk went on for maybe 15 minutes as they both came for each other, as I held back as much as I could at pushing myself to the edge. At his request, she leaned her phone up against the nightstand lamp so that she could twirl her naked body for him while he told her how he can't wait to have his hands all over again soon.

He asked if I will be there watching as she told him that I might be, but I also just might listen from the living room. "Gotcha. He'll hear plenty I'm sure."

So this weekend is basically set. We don't know exactly which day however. Plus I'm not exactly sure how these arrangements typically go. Does the bull usually just leave after he's done, allowing the couple to reclaim, or do they usually stay and watch?

[hubudig2]

Slight Update: As a way to ease me in mentally to what will hopefully happen this weekend, Lana and Shawn got on FaceTime last night and masturbated to each other while I sat on the couch and just listened. I watched her play with her toy while she stared at her phone at him stroking his hard cock telling her what he was going to do to her on our bed the next time he sees her. I don't think he knew or cared that I was right there listening and I'm pretty sure Lana soon forgot about my presence as well. The dirty talked went on for maybe 15 minutes as they both came for each other, as I held back as much as I could at pushing myself to the edge. At his request, she leaned her phone up against the nightstand lamp so that she could twirl her naked body for him while he told her how he can't wait to have his hands all over again soon.

He asked if I will be there watching as she told him that I might be, but I also just might listen from the living room. "Gotcha. He'll hear plenty I'm sure."

So this weekend is basically set. We don't know exactly which day however. Plus I'm not exactly sure how these arrangements typically go. Does the bull usually just leave after he's done, allowing the couple to reclaim, or do they usually stay and watch?

That's hot.
How was it? How did you feel? How do you feel now? More at ease?
Did you have sex immediately after?

[FadermanL20]

I agree. That is hot. The span of time has not killed the energy.

What kind of things was he saying? Samples?

[Wifesharing]

Two things
1. When you guys were first together did you make her cum with your cock I thought you said you had not but maybe it is you just don't now.

2. We prefer when the guy leaves fairly fast after so we can have us time, but we also are not rude so we of course let him stay and cuddle some he likes. Most guys have stayed longer then we would like and a few it was damn right uncomfortable how long they stay lol, of course we have had a few that left almost too fast. all that to say there is no standard it will take a little hnting form you guys for him to get it right.

[w770]

Slight Update: As a way to ease me in mentally to what will hopefully happen this weekend, Lana and Shawn got on FaceTime last night and masturbated to each other while I sat on the couch and just listened. I watched her play with her toy while she stared at her phone at him stroking his hard cock telling her what he was going to do to her on our bed the next time he sees her. I don't think he knew or cared that I was right there listening and I'm pretty sure Lana soon forgot about my presence as well. The dirty talked went on for maybe 15 minutes as they both came for each other, as I held back as much as I could at pushing myself to the edge. At his request, she leaned her phone up against the nightstand lamp so that she could twirl her naked body for him while he told her how he can't wait to have his hands all over again soon.

He asked if I will be there watching as she told him that I might be, but I also just might listen from the living room. "Gotcha. He'll hear plenty I'm sure."

So this weekend is basically set. We don't know exactly which day however. Plus I'm not exactly sure how these arrangements typically go. Does the bull usually just leave after he's done, allowing the couple to reclaim, or do they usually stay and watch?

That's hot.
How was it? How did you feel? How do you feel now? More at ease?
Did you have sex immediately after?

We actually didn't have sex afterwards. I was trying my best to keep from cumming while they were masturbating together, and in that, I accomplished my goal. But when she was twirling around and showing off her naked body for him, I don't know what it was, but I lost it to that interaction between them and came all over myself.

In terms of how it felt - It was humiliating, but hot. And I hate that I'm so turned on by the humiliation, but I think the easing in process is helping me cope with accepting that I like it.

I agree. That is hot. The span of time has not killed the energy.

What kind of things was he saying? Samples?

The classic lines of how much he loves her pussy, how he can't wait to feel her mouth on his cock again, how he can't wait to take her on her bed again, and also how he wants to spank her in front of me.

I honestly don't know if I'll be able to handle watching. It was like I was having cuck angst and a panic attack all over again watching them masturbate to each other last night so the real thing might be a bit much.

[w770]

Two things
1. When you guys were first together did you make her cum with your cock I thought you said you had not but maybe it is you just don't now.

2. We prefer when the guy leaves fairly fast after so we can have us time, but we also are not rude so we of course let him stay and cuddle some he likes. Most guys have stayed longer then we would like and a few it was damn right uncomfortable how long they stay lol, of course we have had a few that left almost too fast. all that to say there is no standard it will take a little hnting form you guys for him to get it right.

When we first got together, after a few weeks, I was able to make her cum via intercourse for a small window of time. But she had to go on some anxiety medication for a few months and I guess it's normal for her sex drive to drop off when that's introduced into her body. But ever after she stopped taking those meds, I was never able to give her an orgasm with sex again.

I think the difference in him staying to watch will be a matter of whether Lana wants to have an intimate moment where we're reconnecting, or whether she's still playing into the fantasy as it will no doubt be humiliating for Shawn to see me cum after a few thrusts after she was just cumming hard on his giant cock.

[hubudig2]

We actually didn't have sex afterwards. I was trying my best to keep my cumming while they were masturbating together, and in that, I accomplished my goal. But when she was twirling around and showing off her naked body for him, I don't know what it was, but I lost it to that interaction between them and came all over myself.

Ah, that's gold! Did she notice?
Nice to hear that you think the experience helped.
Do you think they'll do another facetime before the weekend?

[w770]

We actually didn't have sex afterwards. I was trying my best to keep my cumming while they were masturbating together, and in that, I accomplished my goal. But when she was twirling around and showing off her naked body for him, I don't know what it was, but I lost it to that interaction between them and came all over myself.

Ah, that's gold! Did she notice?
Nice to hear that you think the experience helped.
Do you think they'll do another facetime before the weekend?

Yeah she saw when she ended the call between her and Shawn. It was really humiliating but she just kissed me and told me to spoon her to sleep.

Funny you should ask about possibly another FaceTime. We have plans today for me to go into the office and at some point, she'll FaceTime with him. We didn't get a chance to do this yesterday because we were both too busy with work, and we didn't bring the 2nd phone with us to the city, so it will just be him and her without me being able to listen in. She tells me that she'll send me the 3 emojis when it's about to happen though.

[SixInchDick]

I always try and get her to stay at a haunted hotel but that idea is also always dead on arrival.

This guy's got jokes now...

[Chrislydi]

It's great that you've managed such huge strides towards eroticising the whole humiliation aspect of the cuck process, it seems you're a natural with it being exactly what you really want. There can be an inevitable change in the relationship whether spoken or not, no matter how temporary the experience. It's also however ideal, especially if you're so suited to this lifestyle and adapt to your new role as the 'lesser' man (sexually I mean not in all other ways). How she will see you after this cucking and the changed mindset can't be easily undone even if unsaid, and maybe this is just as well if Lana wants other dominant lovers afterwards too. Things seem to be going very well indeed and it looks as if soon you will be loving your life as her very own cuckold. It may well be your future mission to find her a regular supply of dominant new men who can fully satisfy her and maybe even eventually a longer term partner too.

Chris

[w770]

It's great that you've managed such huge strides towards eroticising the whole humiliation aspect of the cuck process, it seems you're a natural with it being exactly what you really want. There can be an inevitable change in the relationship whether spoken or not, no matter how temporary the experience. It's also however ideal, especially if you're so suited to this lifestyle and adapt to your new role as the 'lesser' man (sexually I mean not in all other ways). How she will see you after this cucking and the changed mindset can't be easily undone even if unsaid, and maybe this is just as well if Lana wants other dominant lovers afterwards too. Things seem to be going very well indeed and it looks as if soon you will be loving your life as her very own cuckold. It may well be your future mission to find her a regular supply of dominant new men who can fully satisfy her and maybe even eventually a longer term partner too.

Chris

This is honestly frightening to me, as I've actively tried to resist anything that may have Lana lose respect for me. But I can take solace in the notion that hopefully it won't be respect that she loses for me, but rather she just sees me as the sexually lesser man, which is fine with me seeing as it's objectively true.

Update: She's just texted me 3 emojis and a message that she's in bed naked with her toy about to FaceTime with Shawn. The lump in my throat just dropped.

[johnstevens555]

Two things
1. When you guys were first together did you make her cum with your cock I thought you said you had not but maybe it is you just don't now.

2. We prefer when the guy leaves fairly fast after so we can have us time, but we also are not rude so we of course let him stay and cuddle some he likes. Most guys have stayed longer then we would like and a few it was damn right uncomfortable how long they stay lol, of course we have had a few that left almost too fast. all that to say there is no standard it will take a little hnting form you guys for him to get it right.

When we first got together, after a few weeks, I was able to make her cum via intercourse for a small window of time. But she had to go on some anxiety medication for a few months and I guess it's normal for her sex drive to drop off when that's introduced into her body. But ever after she stopped taking those meds, I was never able to give her an orgasm with sex again.

I think the difference in him staying to watch will be a matter of whether Lana wants to have an intimate moment where we're reconnecting, or whether she's still playing into the fantasy as it will no doubt be humiliating for Shawn to see me cum after a few thrusts after she was just cumming hard on his giant cock.

I would save it for later.