I'm Ky, and I'm a cuck-oholic

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Finding a partner for the hot wife is the hardest thing by far! There are a lot of men out there that get off on manipulating a woman. My wife does enjoy bdsm so we will gauge a guy's reactions to things we say even some things that are extreme that we would never want to do. We have only found one man she has been able to completely act like a sub with 100% trust but that relationship is over.

As for your racial interest. Everyone has a kink. I have not been into black guys with my wife but I have been into her with other men of her own nationality. When they talk after sex in a language I don't really understand, I get hard and ready to go again.

[Ky_Da]

I really appreciate all the comments today. I’m not sure why, but I’ve been really feeling the itch lately. Maybe it’s because I know the thing with Wade is completely over and the the short fling she had with Andrew is basically over, too. I miss those days when Wade would fuck her into sub-space oblivion. Damn I loved that.

[BreedEmYoung]

Love your story KY

Some thoughts: ...you might want to hope to have only daughters with your delicious wife. If you father a son, and if ALL your boys ever get together (skinny dipping or whatever) and see each others junk...and the genetic truth cums out... (I think you can see where I am going with this) there might be regrets/feelings about choices made by Mom and/or Dad during breeding.)

Also, I REALLY wish I was not TOTALLY repulsed by all things interracial. Zero fascination here. There is SO much interracial porn I am apparently missing out on... Always have been repulsed by that. Yes, I was raised in a racist cult (Mormonism). Black bald dudes look SOOO much better than bald white guys. I recognize that. Browsing hotwife porn would be SOOOO much easier if I were not so repulsed by BBC... but...I don't know how to fix it...
But this is not about me...

[Ky_Da]

Love your story KY

Some thoughts: ...you might want to hope to have only daughters with your delicious wife. If you father a son, and if ALL your boys ever get together (skinny dipping or whatever) and see each others junk...and the genetic truth cums out... (I think you can see where I am going with this) there might be regrets/feelings about choices made by Mom and/or Dad during breeding.)

Also, I REALLY wish I was not TOTALLY repulsed by all things interracial. Zero fascination here. There is SO much interracial porn I am apparently missing out on... Always have been repulsed by that. Yes, I was raised in a racist cult (Mormonism). Black bald dudes look SOOO much better than bald white guys. I recognize that. Browsing hotwife porn would be SOOOO much easier if I were not so repulsed by BBC... but...I don't know how to fix it...
But this is not about me...

Interesting comments there. To each their own, right. Nothing is universally liked or hated, so I’m sure there is some quantity of people out there that agree with the interracial thing. I obviously don’t know you or your background, so I won’t see through the same prism, but the Mormons I know at work are the least racist, nicest people I’ve ever met. I don’t think any of them would care to talk about hotwifing or cuckolding, but like I said, to each their own.

[sabya167]

I mean, really,Ky, if you look at it, Jaimee just takes one shot and hit the bulls eye. So many wives get stood up, the guy chickens out, the guy turns out to be fake, couples make profiles, put up an ad, go bar hopping etc etc ... You know the drill. But not with Jaimee, no sir, she gets introduced to a gym thru' one of her friends and bang, Wade falls in her lap. She gets a call from Rachael and bang, Andrew falls in her lap. Both are basically nice guys. Now that she became friends with Mrs-done-it-all Nichole, there's no telling what's next. . Just kidding. Parenthood and family should take precedence over your kink.(sigh)

[Ky_Da]

Hey all,

The wife left to go visit her folks a couple of days ago, so I’m a bachelor for a couple of weeks until I meet up with her for Christmas. It’s strange having the house to myself when I get home. It’s especially strange how quiet it is.

Last night I pulled out the collar Wade bought for Jaimee when he was her boyfriend, and just seeing it gave me a raging hardon. I miss those days. We had a short period of time where the game was going perfectly and we were all really happy with it. The thought occurred to me that playing the game is a lot like trying to balance one ball on top of another. If you try long enough and work really hard, you can accomplish it for a brief moment… but only for a moment.

The reason I’m writing today is because I bumped into Wade at the mall last night when I went out to do some Christmas shopping. I was walking down the middle of the corridor checking out the shops and desperately hoping that the perfect gift for my wife would pop out at me when I spotted Wade walking the other direction.

I think we both had the initial same thought of keep-walking-and-just-do the-curt-nod-thing. But in the end we both stopped and said hello.

After we’d been talking for a few minutes and seeing that he was also by himself, I nodded towards a gelato shop and asked if he wanted one.

Wade shrugged but then nodded, “Sure, two guys having a gelato together isn’t weird,” he joked sarcastically.

We each got one and took a seat at the corner table. Wade got the smallest one they sold and kind of picked at it without really eating any of it. “Find anything for the girlfriend? I eventually asked, figuring that’s why most guys would be in the mall on a Wednesday night.

Wade shook his head and looked out the window next to us, “She broke up with me a few days ago. I’m just killing time until the jeweler puts a new battery in my watch.”

I know I visibly grimaced at the news, “Sorry to hear that,” I said lamely. “I thought it was going really well between you two.”

Wade looked thoroughly miserable now, letting his cheerful façade drop. “I thought so, too,” he remarked, still picking at the gelato but not eating it. “Well, they haven’t been going so well lately… I don’t know man, we just want different things I guess.”

I was about to tell him sorry again, but thankfully stopped myself. I actually didn’t say anything and just sat and listened. After a minute, Wade looked directly at me, “You have no idea how fucking lucky you are, Ky.”

His intensity made me sit back in my chair a little, “Uh, thanks—I know,” I mumbled out.

“No, seriously. Jills is a fucking amazing woman,” he said, using a variation of my wife’s real name he’d occasionally used when they were together. Hearing him say it triggered a thousand memories that flashed into my mind. “I could totally be myself with her, and she just accepted who I was,” he stared off at something over my shoulder but his eyes looked unfocused. He chuckled, “I miss being verbally abused by the little twat.”

We sat in amicable silence for a moment before I said, “Those were good times,” I agreed, “I hope you don’t feel slighted or take any of it personally that we had to end it—,”

“—No man,” Wade cut me off, waving a hand across the table for effect, “Don’t even say it. I get it. I do. You guys have a shit ton of new stuff to deal with right now. Don’t think twice about it—seriously.”

I nodded but didn’t know what to say.

“I just need to find myself someone more like her—if she exists,” Wade said, forcing a smile onto his face.

“Fuck Wade. You could have damn near any girl you want,” I said without thinking out what I was trying to say, “You’ve got your own business that does really well. You won the genetic lottery in every way imaginable, and you’re not a total ass-hat. I’m sure you’ll be slaying it by the end of the week.”

Wade rolled his eyes and shook his head, “You don’t get it, Ky. I meant what I said. You’re fucking luckier than you know. Do you know how careful I have to be when I’m with a woman? I’ve been turned down more times than I can count. The minute she sees my dick, she’s all like, ‘you’re not putting that in me.’ But Jills never batted an eye. That woman can fuck,” he said crassly, and then caught my eye again, “but that was just part of it. I loved the connection I had with her. And I just haven’t been able to find that again”

“So are just focusing on work right now then?”

“Kinda sorta,” Wade confessed with a shrug, “I have my core business that I’m careful to take care of because that’s my living. But I haven’t put much effort into growing it lately. I fucking suck at keeping things organized so it’s better if I keep things small and more manageable.”

“Why not hire some help?” I asked, truly curious. Wade has a great facility in a good location, but it’s usually only been him running everything. Yes, he’s hired some other personal trainers, but he needs admin help. He needs payroll and AP, and, and, and… yeah, that business stuff.

Wade’s features soured like he’d sucked on a lemon, “Fuck that. Then you have payroll insurance, health care, vacation, blah, blah, blah. I don’t even want to think about that shit.”

I was going to press the point, but I could tell he didn’t even want to talk about it. “The boys are good by the way.” I said, completely switching subjects.

Wade gave me a genuine smile, and for a moment he looked happier, “Cool,” is all he said at first, but then added, “I wanted to know, but wasn’t sure if I should ask.” Wade sighed heavily and pushed his chair back, his gelato still uneaten, “It’s been good to see you Ky, but if I keep strolling down memory lane here, I’m going to have a shit Christmas. I’m happy for you guys though.”

We stood, shook hands, and parted. I stayed awake for a long time last night thinking of the consequences from our game. The ripple effects have extended a long, long ways.

[sabya167]

First, don't tell Jaimee about this. Secondly next time you again see him, do the curt-nod thing and move on. IMHO. Be strong Ky. Don't let your kink risk Jaimee. Be strong. Shake it off.Keep them poles apart.He is in love with Jaimee. You don't want more drama at home.IMHO.

[viking53]

Has Jaimee switched to another gym? If she hasn't already done so, she definitely needs to for the sake of all three of you. If Wade continues to see Jaimee regularly, he won't be able to hold himself back.

[BigHotMess]

I disagree and you need to always have honest communication with your spouse.

K - there are a lot of people on this site who use it for fantasy, who are truly mentally damaged from a kink or can’t see the important things in life. I love reading the train wrecks as much as the next guy, but even most of those have significant literary allowances.

You’re not like them.

You’ve seen the train wreck that your life can become and are smart enough to find terra firma - that cannot be risked shall not be risked. It’s a very simple formula that many choose to not stick with for some weird reason.

[Xalar11]

I can only agree considering what the two first commentators have said. I can understand that you feel a kind of pity for Wade. He's obviously not a bad person and I have no doubt that it was difficult, but in my opinion it is to 100% the right decision for you and Jaimee to cut ties with Wade. I can only urge and plead you not to waver on this decision, under no circumstances. Any closer relationship between you and Wade, but mainly between Jaimee and Wade, well, there are so many potential pitfalls, I can hardly count. (A few I have listed in one of my earlier statements) This all is certainly not worth the risk of causing problems in your marriage or even the risk of loosing Jaimee.

And I can also only urge you for Jaimee to switch her gym, if she hasn't done this already. Like I said, Wade is certainly not a bad guy, but it would be absolutely naive of you to trust Wade, that he wouldn't try to steal Jaimee away from you. The way how you reported Wade spoke about Jaimee should set off every alarm bell of yours.

[sabya167]

Jaimee has changed her gym. Ky confirmed that sometime back.She is not going to Wade's gym any more. She even agreed on not sending any more texts or pic of the boys to Wade. (For those who have missed it earlier.)

[4v273]

Another perspective…..

Everything you have wrote described Wade as a really good guy. So lets say all involved are good people with the best of intentions.

Consider..... wouldn't it be cruel to him to continue contact with Jamie when he can't have her/kids for his own family?

Some may suggest a poly relationship. I would suggest the bond of children would likely mean you risk being slowly moved to a lessor role and possibly out. My view is this would be a very difficult problem to address among the usual problems with adding another person.

If my poor memory is correct....didn't you nearly lose Jamie to someone else pre-Wade? I can not find the thread and likely it's fallen off the forum. If anyone has a link it would be greatly appreciated.

Ky....if you have a copy, perhaps you could post some of it again. If not....and you are willing to address this now...please post about it. Maybe in the library. I know you started writing there some....this could be not only be interesting, but very informative. I will understand if you do not want to relive it, but I do believe it would have value to readers to do so.

So many, in their enthusiasm for this kink, overlook/minimize the very real risks involved to themselves. Or the feelings of the third or the spouse/family of the third person.

[Bayless]

Ky,

Follow the advice of the majority here. You have everything to lose and virtually nothing to gain. Wade is the Father of your twins, much better than you in bed, a great favorite of your wife, etc. etc. As previously mentioned, Jamie hooking up with Wade again brings up the issue of what does she need you for? Do you have sympathy for Wade? Probably, but that’s because you know what a great life you have with Jamie and the twins. Don’t risk it .

Wade is a capable guy. He will survive. That is not your or Jamie’s responsibility. When you get the urge to feel that old excitement again, stop and get serious with yourself.
Ask yourself to visualize you in the future without Jamie and your sons. That’s the real world. That’s how close you are to losing. Think with your big Engineering head, not your entertainment head. You can do this . The stakes are much to risky to even consider it. Stay the course, Best of luck.

[Ky_Da]

Hey all,

Let me just start by saying, I hear all of you, and I agree. To answer a few questions; no, Jaimee does not go to Wade’s gym any longer. They’ve severed contact completely. And yes, I almost did lose my wife the first time we played the game. That was several years ago and it was our first foray into the game. He was a guy named Derrick and he pursued her hard. That was so close to disaster for me that I have a hard time thinking about it without a serious pit forming in my stomach when I remember how I almost lost my wife. It’s a sobering thought that I should definitely not forget.

That first go-round with Derrick was such a disaster for so many reasons. We didn’t set boundaries, my wife was angry with me for even wanting her to consider breaking her marriage vows, and we were still basically newly weds at that time. I didn’t save any of those early postings. I’m really wishing I had though, it would be good for me to go back and read them—kind of force myself to remember those bad times.

My wife will eventually read last night’s post and we’ll talk about it. I”m sure she’ll have some choice words for me and threaten me with the cage, lol.

Wade wasn’t just my wife’s boyfriend, he became my friend, too. So it’s not as easy as it was when we had to cut Derrick out of our lives. But I agree that Wade still has feelings for my wife—actually very deep feelings, so that’s getting into extremely dangerous territory. But it’s true. With two kids now to think about, I can’t fuck things up. We can’t fuck things up.

This is the hard thing about this kink. It’s either all or nothing for us. I tried writing a story in the library, but I had to stop because I was only triggering myself the entire time I was doing it and my mind was constantly on cuck-mode. The only way for me to control my urges is to keep my mind focused on other things, and even that isn’t a full proof method. But I’ll do whatever is necessary to keep my family whole. Nothing is more important than they are.

Later all,

[NewOldCuck]

Ky.

Unfortunately, real life does stick it’s ugly nose in to our fantasy lives more than we would like. Both you and Jamie and Wade are having to go through that now. You and Jamie have each other and the boys. You can lean on each other, talk about things and work together to get thru this (as you’re doing). Wade, unfortunately, isn’t as lucky. But, you know, that is the downside of a 3rd in a couple. You’ll always be 3rd. It’s nice (and ego boosting) to be a bull but, in the end, you’re always odd man out. That’s not meant to be cruel, it’s just a fact. Wade is no fool so I’m sure that he’s realizing that now and, going forward, keep that in the forefront of his mind. You and Jamie are also learning from this. You’re both back in the game now but I think you both are wiser and will do whatever you have to to keep this from happening again. Like Icarus, you flew a little to close to the sun but, unlike Icarus, you won’t come that close again.

New Old Cuck

[wannabecUKold]

“I miss being verbally abused by the little twat.”
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“I just need to find myself someone more like her—if she exists,” Wade said, forcing a smile onto his face.

Sounds like he needs another of our fine English privately educated girls. Learning all that verbal abuse is expensive.

If I hear of one coming out your way, Ky, I'll let you know.

[4v273]

Ky

Thank you for addressing some things I and others brought up. No intention of causing you pain.

Your children deserve you and Jamie's best. No kink is worth the risk of harming innocents.

Often is heard the excuse 'kids are resilient' or 'it all in how you explain it to them'. Sometimes that is true. Sometimes it's bovine excreta.

I doubt a good parent ever said 'I wish I had spent more time with my kink then with my kids'. Better if your kids never need to be 'resilient'.

[Bayless]

Well said NewOldCuck.

[Bayless]

Well said NewOldCuck.

[SutterKane]

If you would, please consider writing an overview of every thing that happened that was lost when your other thread was dropped? That was a hell of a loss to the forum! And I'd still like to read the rest of the story you started in the Library! I don't ask for much, do I?
Sutter

[4v273]

If you would, please consider writing an overview of every thing that happened that was lost when your other thread was dropped? That was a hell of a loss to the forum! And I'd still like to read the rest of the story you started in the Library! I don't ask for much, do I?
Sutter

Perhaps it would be therapeutic to write about Derrick. Might help put the 'kink' into perspective.

Agree with the loss to the forum.

Agree with 'well said NewOldCuck.'

[ResponsibullCummings]

As tempting as it might be to allow Wade back into your lives at some point it is clearly better for all that you don't. He clearly views Jaimee as the ideal woman and if he was allowed to play again he might not find a long term girlfriend as he will be content with what he gets from her. There also may be a temptation for him to want to take her away from you so that he can be the father of his kids and live his perfect live with his perfect woman. Better he picks himself up and finds another woman that can handle his giant cock and start a life of his own.

[BigHotMess]

We all have shit outside out the important things that distract us. There are many people here who are horrible parents because of it. It applies to all places where people are passionate about things, I have a soccer forum that I’m where half the parents are away every weekend watching the ultimately trivial game of soccer over spending time with their family. It’s all a decision that we make.

[subtoall]

What an incredible coincidence to run into Wade at the mall. It's not like you live in a small town. And what a poignant encounter for you both. Everyone will be best served by Wade moving on. Let's trust that he will, and conduct ourselves in a way that encourages that.

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I can't imagine twins. I hope you have a babysitter so you both can relax and reconnect.