Young Wife May Start Again

[Claireandcarl]

Great update .. sounds like you are having a fun time

[mundyman]

What was your conversation like the next couple of days?
Did you come to any new agreements?
Did offer anything new to her, she to you?
Or did you just look at each other and understand that things will never be the same and you both were going to be doing th8s together?
The story of your meeting with Martin are red hot, but I’m personally just as interested in what you talked about in the next days after.
Thank you for taking the time to share your journey.

[Terrycart79]

That is hot! Has he taken her ass yet?

Can’t wait to hear what may come next!

Please don't ask that question. I don't think I'd want to know. Considering how huge his cock is, no good can come out of him taking her ass. lol

[Terrycart79]

OP: would you have married her if you knew all her history? Also why did you marry her if you did not have immediate plans to have kids like in a year of getting married?

Bad news, good news.  First the bad news.  I did not get humiliated or beat up by Martin, did not wear panties, did not suck a cock, did not eat a creampie, and did not get denied sex with Brandi.  Why is this bad news?  Because I know many of you were hoping for this.  Sorry.

Dude, I was cracking up at you saying you didn't get beat up by Martin. LOL. All the other cuckold stereotypes you threw in there were funny too.

[Terrycart79]

OP: would you have married her if you knew all her history? Also why did you marry her if you did not have immediate plans to have kids like in a year of getting married?

I sat down next to him on the coach and Brandi undid my pants.  My cock looked like a cocktail weiner next to his.  She giggled a little when my cock came in view next to his.  "Oh Wow!  He's so much bigger than you.  Do you like watching he honey?"  She continued to jerk his cock with one hand while she sucked mine. 

Oh my god, lol. I was in bed reading this at night and almost laughed out loud at the cocktail wiener comment.

[Terrycart79]

Everyone has been speculating and putting in their two cents, well it's time for me to give mine. Has anyone considered that Brandi is an alien? OP, does she bleed blue, green or some other color? I guess if she bled blue, she'd be a Democrat, but that's not what I mean. What are her origins? There is no way a woman with that sex drive is human. Check the birth certificate, do her parents have "-El" at the end of their names, like Cal-El or Kara Zor-El?

Martin is another story. I bet he is a plant, not like a house plant, but I mean somebody put him there on purpose. Was it the neighbor, was it Brandi's best friend, or maybe it was YOU, OP!

On a more serious note, since we can't see more pics of Brandi, maybe you can clear up some things for us. Does she have a hairy pussy or does she shave? What's her height, breast size, etc? Just looking for a better mental image. Haha. I know you've said she looks like that Arianna Chechic or whatever her name is.

[XYAlpha]

Great update!

Speaking for myself, I was not "hoping" for the situations I have described. I was highlighting a path that you may have been on that from what little I know about you I thought perhaps you would not enjoy.

I'm glad Martin told you that even in the LS you are going to run into some guys that will degrade and humiliate you. It will be interesting how you and Brandi handle that when it happens. Her humiliating you is a primer for that I guess.

I have so many questions about how you move forward knowing that you will never satisfy her (from your description, you did not make her cum - Martin did - a lot!).
She told you this. I would personally struggle with that - being a husband that the wife says could not sexually satisfy her - that my little dick did nothing for her.

It was not lost on me that Martin gave you direction and you followed it. He chose when to leave you alone and when to fuck your wife as you slept. Brandi also slipped away as you slept to go again. Not exactly the sharing event I though it would be. Especially his closing comment, "We're going to get along fine. As if he had the position with Brandi to make that decision. This is something for you to decide and say to him...

Martin is certainly dominant. I read how he commanded her to say things with corporal punishment for not answering the way he expected. He commanded her to do things and she obeyed. What will happen when he commands her to do something that violates an agreement between you and Brandi? What will happen when he tells her not to allow you to have sex with her anymore?

I know the OP is not a fan of my perspectives. And I get that. The OP has a thick skin and seems to be handling counter viewpoints very well - mine included.

I am bothered by the corporal punishment. I could never get into or understand this kink. I get it that some women may like it. But I think it may be something that comes and goes with a mood. So when does her sex partner know it is ok to slap and choke her? This is counter intuitive to me that a giant of a man would need to slap a petite girl.

And the trust that the OP must have that these guys - especially in a group dynamic - don't take it too far. Tre choked her. Brandi is red from slaps, bruised, and sore. A group could be worse where they are all into one-upping each other - a sexual testosterone fueled scene...

My HW enjoyed this once while I was watching. I became very defensive for her - seeing her have sex was one thing - another man slapping and choking her was too much for me and the date stopped abruptly. Depending on her lover - I didn't participate any longer. If she came home with marks or bruises - he was done. How the OP watched this - his wife be dominated through corporal punishment - slapped - is beyond me.

Just my thoughts.

I am sincerely glad you are happy with how this is going.

XY

[gwwkjt]

I will explain myself a bit here

What decade are we living in? Who gets married and has kids immediately in their 20's? Not many people we know. Anyway, while we want kids, definitely not yet. She still wants to get her career started before having kids.

During the past 20-30 years in our part of the world it has been like this: after having crazy college time hooking up people in their 20’s spend in a series of long-term relationships, which progresses into co-habitation. When a couple commits to each other they get children (usually between 25 and 40 yo) and some get married, mostly in their 30’s (before getting married or before that). Then when “reproductive duties” are done some people start this LS

You’ve done it differently: you married a 22 yo woman with a rich experience that you did not know of, then you launched her into this LS (which is like offering a junkie a free-of-charge heroin buffet). Now you have a bull that tells both of you how to have sex (even if there is only you and Brandi you still cannot help bringing LS fantasies into sex) and then you think that you are going “to have few kids some years down the road when are ready for that”. Sorry, but is a bit funny

You committed to the woman who lied to you about her sexual history. Do you really think she did not fuck anyone during 14 months you got together? Do you really believe who was not fucking anyone but you on weekends, while having this rich experience and being in college?

Anyway, we were monogamous until about 14 moths into the relationship. I had since moved away from college, and taken a job in the closest major city about 1 hour from campus. I lived with 3 other guys in an apartment. Brandi was still at college and we saw each other pretty much every weekend

She stopped fucking Mike and “other people” because she wanted to get married. Remember, she told you that “people don’t marry sluts”. She might have had some self-control to keep her urges at bay while just married, but who knows: are you sure she was not fucking anyone else? She could have been fucking someone behind your back

[afagehi7]

I will explain myself a bit here

What decade are we living in? Who gets married and has kids immediately in their 20's? Not many people we know. Anyway, while we want kids, definitely not yet. She still wants to get her career started before having kids.

During the past 20-30 years in our part of the world it has been like this: after having crazy college time hooking up people in their 20’s spend in a series of long-term relationships, which progresses into co-habitation. When a couple commits to each other they get children (usually between 25 and 40 yo) and some get married, mostly in their 30’s (before getting married or before that). Then when “reproductive duties” are done some people start this LS

You’ve done it differently: you married a 22 yo woman with a rich experience that you did not know of, then you launched her into this LS (which is like offering a junkie a free-of-charge heroin buffet). Now you have a bull that tells both of you how to have sex (even if there is only you and Brandi you still cannot help bringing LS fantasies into sex) and then you think that you are going “to have few kids some years down the road when are ready for that”. Sorry, but is a bit funny

You committed to the woman who lied to you about her sexual history. Do you really think she did not fuck anyone during 14 months you got together? Do you really believe who was not fucking anyone but you on weekends, while having this rich experience and being in college?

Anyway, we were monogamous until about 14 moths into the relationship. I had since moved away from college, and taken a job in the closest major city about 1 hour from campus. I lived with 3 other guys in an apartment. Brandi was still at college and we saw each other pretty much every weekend

She stopped fucking Mike and “other people” because she wanted to get married. Remember, she told you that “people don’t marry sluts”. She might have had some self-control to keep her urges at bay while just married, but who knows: are you sure she was not fucking anyone else? She could have been fucking someone behind your back

She confessed everything else, why would she lie about this?

If he hasn't (but I think he already has) the OP should offer immunity/amnesty for anything she confesses but she has to tell everything.

I'm glad the OP didn't end up in panties sucking black cock whilst being humiliated.

[XYAlpha]

I think part of it for some women is that they need to keep a little secret. Not tell everything... we read it here all the time where the HW tells the husband about their "date" but not all of it.

It stands to reason that after she confessed the second or third time that it was all there - more is still hidden.

Maybe things that she has done, is doing, or will do that she KNOWS will end it for her and the OP. Like doing Chris and the 5 strangers bareback in the hood! I know, she told the OP that they all used condoms...

Or, that while in her own home, with her husband there to share her, does she nudge him and say, "Hey babe, I want to go get on Martin again. You OK with that?"
No, she sneaks off to do it! Sure, she knew it was likely that the OP would catch her - but she didn't ask.

This is demontrative of her nature... she will sneak off. Her past shows it. She would have shown so much respect for her husband if she has made that simple gesture. She knows he would have said yes! But - she didn't...

And so the OP has a lot to work through. For now, he accepts all this to feed his kink. But somehow I know that he must be at least preliminarily thinking about how to circle all this back around into a situation that he has some control and can have a family even if it's 5 years out. She would have to stop the LS to make sure the baby is his, and I am guessing (because I am not an OB) that sex with Martin and some of these other giant cocks would not be a good idea while pregnant - especially with how physically aggressive they are.

And we will be here, cheering for him, cautioning him, offering counter viewpoints, and sometimes being very critical. Some wankers will be getting off...

We are but guests on his journey!

XY

[Claireandcarl]

Great update!

Speaking for myself, I was not "hoping" for the situations I have described. I was highlighting a path that you may have been on that from what little I know about you I thought perhaps you would not enjoy.

I'm glad Martin told you that even in the LS you are going to run into some guys that will degrade and humiliate you. It will be interesting how you and Brandi handle that when it happens. Her humiliating you is a primer for that I guess.

I have so many questions about how you move forward knowing that you will never satisfy her (from your description, you did not make her cum - Martin did - a lot!).
She told you this. I would personally struggle with that - being a husband that the wife says could not sexually satisfy her - that my little dick did nothing for her.

It was not lost on me that Martin gave you direction and you followed it. He chose when to leave you alone and when to fuck your wife as you slept. Brandi also slipped away as you slept to go again. Not exactly the sharing event I though it would be. Especially his closing comment, "We're going to get along fine. As if he had the position with Brandi to make that decision. This is something for you to decide and say to him...

Martin is certainly dominant. I read how he commanded her to say things with corporal punishment for not answering the way he expected. He commanded her to do things and she obeyed. What will happen when he commands her to do something that violates an agreement between you and Brandi? What will happen when he tells her not to allow you to have sex with her anymore?

I know the OP is not a fan of my perspectives. And I get that. The OP has a thick skin and seems to be handling counter viewpoints very well - mine included.

I am bothered by the corporal punishment. I could never get into or understand this kink. I get it that some women may like it. But I think it may be something that comes and goes with a mood. So when does her sex partner know it is ok to slap and choke her? This is counter intuitive to me that a giant of a man would need to slap a petite girl.

And the trust that the OP must have that these guys - especially in a group dynamic - don't take it too far. Tre choked her. Brandi is red from slaps, bruised, and sore. A group could be worse where they are all into one-upping each other - a sexual testosterone fueled scene...

My HW enjoyed this once while I was watching. I became very defensive for her - seeing her have sex was one thing - another man slapping and choking her was too much for me and the date stopped abruptly. Depending on her lover - I didn't participate any longer. If she came home with marks or bruises - he was done. How the OP watched this - his wife be dominated through corporal punishment - slapped - is beyond me.

Just my thoughts.

I am sincerely glad you are happy with how this is going.

XY

Unfortunately, can only agree with A7...just couldn't bear to say it before. I accept that OP and I have very different views on some things. And also this is OP's thread.

Just an exampel -
What Brandiandme mentions as "bad news" - from my perspective, I (so as Brandiandme) consider that as "good news". Personally, none of those kinks named as the "bad news" is my preference, far from it. I don't judge those who like it, just say thats not me. But I think it is interesting that we have so different perspectives on "respect" and "humiliation". Brandiandme you considered that you had not been humiliated (and probably had not been treated disrespectfull). That scenario with Martin, - speaking for myself I would regard multiple situations as disrespectful and humiliated and I would never accept it. On the other hand, I would never put myself or my wife in a similar situation. But this is not about me!

People like me or A7 etc. may come with perspectivs and/or questions that you dont always appreciate. Of course, in some level we project ourselves, values, preference etc. into your situation. Everyone in this forum does it, whether we like it or not. However, this does not mean that we are not trying to be "objective" or trying to get "into your situation". But we always do it with a well-meaning for you. In the end Its about you Brandiandme, and how you looks at things and how you experiences it ... and you seems satisfied and happy. That's the only thing that counts.

[Claireandcarl]

I think part of it for some women is that they need to keep a little secret. Not tell everything... we read it here all the time where the HW tells the husband about their "date" but not all of it.

It stands to reason that after she confessed the second or third time that it was all there - more is still hidden.

Maybe things that she has done, is doing, or will do that she KNOWS will end it for her and the OP.

Totaly agree, have mentioned it before.

[Triggershy]

I’m soooo happy for you. Watching your live porn blows everything else away. Enjoy each moment and experience in life.
You two will be partners in crime for the next 50 years laughing and enjoying your HUGE secret together.

Congratulations and I LOVE YOUR UPDATES!!!!

[brandiandme]

Great to hear your both having fun.
I know personally we still cuckold with respect, but it’s still fun to play with SPH and denial games.
Play the way you want it’s your game.

Once again I feel like my update creates controversy.  Definitely not my intention.  People have a natural tendency to look at things through their own spectrum.  How can you not.  No single two people respond the same to actions or emotions, that's what makes us human.  Even the best predictive models in the world with all the AI we now have cannot predict human behavior.  It can make accurate predictions of the masses, and beat us at finite games like chess, but will never predict what one individual will do.  I do heed some advice and feedback and appreciate it though.  

No disrespect to the hardcore cuckolds who are into that stuff.  Honestly, whatever floats your boat.  I don't care what you do with your sex life as long as it doesn't affect mine.  If that's your jam I'm happy for you.  I was annoyed by the fact that people assumed I would somehow be forced to sit in the corner, wear panties, and suck cock.  You cannot force a person to do that.  I'm just not a submissive person.  I'm sure some of you love some things we've done, others hate it.  Others may wonder why we haven't done x or y yet.  

Will we end up divorced?  Half of all marriages end up that way so there is at least a 50% chance according to averages.  We certainly don't plan on it, but no couples do. Does our non traditional lifestyle mean we will have a higher chance.  I don't know.  Are we hot on the interracial thing right now.  100%.  This could and will probably fade.  It's all new and exciting right now.  Everything loses excitement after a while. 

The alien thing cracked me up.  She seems like it.  This is without a doubt something that got me hooked on Brandi right away, and I have written about it before.  She had and still has an enormous sex drive.  From the day we started dating and at college together, we'd have 2 rounds per night and one again in the morning before starting our day.  We'd even occasionally sneak in a mid day round when schedules worked.  On top of that, she was still masturbating herself.  Part of this is because I often didn't make her orgasm, especially with our shorter session.  How many girls do you know that carry around a vibrator with them?  


One night early on in our relationship she was having her period and it was particularly heavy and we didn't want to have a messy fuck, she sucked me off 3 times.  She was horny and it excited her to suck me off.  I didn't even ask her for 1 blow job.  What kind of girl does that?  Knew I had to marry her then.  She's a one in a million for sure, but I bet there are similar women to Brandi, just not many.  How much sex is too much?  We are working that out.  I am down for 2 - 3 orgasms per day.  What about Brandi, she said she's down for sex 3 - 4 time per day as long as she is feeling good and her pussy is not sore.  Probably not every day though.  It also depends on how long and rough the session are, and how big their dicks are.  If she goes really big, rough, and long one day, a day off or light day is necessary.  I will say she went from getting sore from dates with guys like Billy and Tre to be able to handle them no problem.  Martin is going to be a regular thing so I'm sure she'll be adjusted to him before long.  He said he is going to resize her pussy, and I hope he does.  Again, this is part of my kink.  Sluts have big pussies, Brandi is a slut.  Is this really true, no.  Pussy size has little to do with the number of men you've been with and how big they were.  I do think if Brandi is consistently having sex with fat cocks she will be more accommodating, it's already happening.  I also think she'd shrink back to normal size, well maybe not completely, after taking some time off.  

As for the corporal punishment thing, I think we are reading way to much into that.  Assumptions are from limited information.  I had slapped Brandi's ass before Martin did.  In fact it was shortly before he slapped her tit.  What you missed, because I didn't write it, was the fact that as I was slapping her ass I was making her tell me and Martin how much she liked it.  I even told him she likes it rough and likes her tits and ass slapped.  I don't have time to write every single detail of things said and every action taken.  These post are long enough and this would be a novel it I wrote down every single line and action taken.  

Same with the chocking thing with Brandi.  She likes hands around her neck, not hard, but enough to feel it.  She will tell you to back off.  Most of the guys that have done this to her she has initiated it by putting their hand on her neck.  Same thing goes for hair pulling.  She will tell you to pull her hair when she wants you to.  She will tell guys to slap her ass as well.  She likes it rough, not all the time, but often.  She likes a certain level of pain as well.  She likes the stinging feeling of being slapped, and likes the burning sensation she gets from her pussy being stretched.  I do not think this is uncommon, lot's of people get off on a little pain and the endorphin rush they get from it only intensifies sex.  I do see the point on letting it get too rough with a gangbang situation.  A bunch of guys trying to outdo each other could go bad.  There's the chance there is one sadistic asshole who takes it too far.  This is an example of good advice.  


I will add that I do have some serious interest in humiliation.  Only from her though and not from or in front of others.  I don't want a bull trying to do that.  It would just piss me off.  Especially her telling me that I'm too small, or me telling her she's too loose or big.  I also like the thought of her only getting off on cocks much bigger than mine.  This is not just fantasy anymore as she has admitted her desire and the difference a big cock makes for her.  This somehow ties in to my fisting and stretching fantasies.  I absolutely love using her huge dildos on her and the giant black one has been well used since my return.  I will say Brandi is very much fixated on size as well and is game to let me try to fist her, which we will likely try tonight.  Again, what type of girl does that?   I even have a little denial fantasy.  Her telling me I'm too small for her and can't fuck her.  This is a touchy one though.  I need to be in the right mind set.


We are trying to figure out what our hotwife relationship looks like moving forward.  It will be trial and error.  I am more comfortable with Brandi having several lovers, and even some steady ones at that.  That's definitely safer.  I don't like to idea of her pairing off with only one guy.  It's an attachment thing but also less exciting for me.  She's not really a "slut" if she's only fucking one other guy besides me.  She's 100% in agreement and enjoys the variety, not to mention multiple partners.  She has also realized that she likes the "conquest" feeling of experiencing a new partner and the excitement she gets when she sees a new cock for the first time.  It's again like working out.  She does not want to do the same workout all of the time, and also want to experience new workouts occasionally.  I love the fact that Brandi compares sex to working out.  Anyway, Fucking a bunch of new guys is currently not possible given the current crisis.  She'll have to make due with what she's got.  Gangbangs will be small and limited, and probably not include anyone new for a while.  

We have the same basic rules, but some new ones.  No playing outside our home or without me present unless we discuss it in depth first and I know the people.  Certain guys may be allowed to spend the night as long as we agree upon it.  This is a tough one since we will be losing our guest bedroom.  The gyms being closed was driving me crazy so I just spent a bunch of money on gym equipment and started to convert the guest room into a home gym.  I cleared out the guest room Sunday to make room.  Guest will need to sleep on the couch, or pull out.  


To no surprise, besides Martin, Brandi chose the 4 other guys she's fucked the most in the last months, Tre, Chris, Tre's roommate B, and Tre's gym friend Brandon.   No surprise they are among the most hung as well.  The whole Coronavirus thing puts a wrench into the situation.  Zero worry about me or her since we are young and healthy, but it is our responsibility to not pass it on because it will eventually be passed to someone who is at high risk.  What does the schedule and rotation look like?  We've not sure.  She'd like to have sex with her bulls a couple of times per week, but this will be fluid.  It also depends on how they respond with me around.   I am working from home now and Brandi is not working, so we are home all the time.  I could see Brandi having anywhere from 1 - 3 dates per day a few days a week.  There is going to be a lot of Marvin right now.  Brandi admits she is craving him and has been thinking about him a lot.  NRE big time.  We know it and talked about it.  We're managing.  

Sunday her pussy was out of commission so she gave me a blowjob.  We had sex on Monday, and yes it involved her big black dildo and some roleplay.  


She already had two dates yesterday.  Chris came over for a date yesterday afternoon. 


I approached it with him kind of like this, and will with every date she brings over.  This is not verbatim as it was more conversational, bu this is the basic message.  "I know everything that Brandi has done and encourage and approve of her behavior.  You are hear because the two of us are allowing you to be.  Having sex with Brandi is a privilege and you should be thankful.  If you forget this you will be replaced with someone who understands this."

He's a funny dude and reminds me of Kevin Hart (not looks but personality and voice).  We got along great. While he is not Martin, he's got a pretty big dick.  He was into the racial play and must have used the term black cock or black dick 100 times (okay maybe an exaggeration, but it was a lot).  It was pretty hot for him to get Brandi repeatedly saying "I love black cock."  He used a condom.  I mostly watched, she sucked my dick a little, and I fucked her after.  He was not disrespectful but definitely got off on having Brandi say that in front of me.  

Martin came over last night for her second date and didn't beat up her pussy too bad.  It was an abbreviated session and he was only here for an hour or so.  I mostly watched and enjoyed the sight of Martin's giant black pole pounding away at my little wife.  Once again hats off to him, the dude can fuck. No wonder the women love him and he has successfully converted a handful of wives to black cock queens. I kissed her, pinched her nipples, and slapped her ass a a bit, but that was it.  You bet I got her loose cum filled pussy after though.  Heavenly.  I very much enjoy watching her and don't feel I need to be involved in every scenario.  Fairly soon I'm sure I'll be okay with her without me in the room.  She has no plans for today as she is taking the day off.  She gave me a blowjob this morning and we will have sex later.  Tomorrow will be a good day though as she plans to have Tre, and his roommate B, come over in the afternoon and Martin again at night.  Life is good.  

Also, at my urging we think we tracked down Sam, who is the giant older black man Brandi tried to have sex with when she was stripping a few years ago.  She admitted she had been thinking about him a lot since we started our hotwifing journey.  More on that later.  

[brandiandme]

Oh yeah, size, someone asked how big Brandi was. She says 5'4" but that's a stretch and is closer to 5'3". She's about 110lbs give or take. She has nice perky B cups, but wants to get them enhanced. She likely will when elective surgeries are available again. Her ass is the best part. She has a nice big ass for a petite girl. If I could name one porn star that she looks like it would be Adriana Chechik. Face, body, everything.

[gwwkjt]

I was one of the sceptics, but I must admit that your latest update convinced me at last. Well done, Sir. Everybody is happy with the arrangement and this all that matters, at least for a foreseeable future

[XYAlpha]

Great update. The awesome length is a testimonial to working from home!



I like your approach and new agreements!

It looks like you have established a little calm from the chaos!

XY

[BallSpanking]

Thanks for the update.
Great to hear Brandi is up to new adventures.
Stay safe, and update us a little more often please.

[gwwkjt]

It is a heartwarming story in the times of corona where just like in Odyssey legend the man returns from long journey from overseas back home to his faithful wife :-)

[Sussexphotographer]

They're going to do it, aren't they; Brandi and Billy? You're going to be so excited when Brandi tells you how it went, and how it felt as he fucked her with his big dick.

[brandiandme]

It is a heartwarming story in the times of corona where just like in Odyssey legend the man returns from long journey from overseas back home to his faithful wife :-)

I detect a sense of sarcasm.  More like Captain Charles Vain returning from sea to his whore Max.  

More updates. Sure. Imagine if I could set up a webcam and broadcast Brandi's encounters. Fuck that would be awesome. We could even charge like a webcam girl. While we share many of the same fucked up kinks, this is the one area that we don't, and it bums me out. On that subject I was once again asking her about video with the thought I might show her the video from the fuck session with Jason and his neighbor back around New Years. She got pissed and almost defensive about it. Not long after that I was feeling guilty and I permanently deleted the video and screen shots from that night. Gone forever. I'm not giving up though. At some point I will have some nice amateur porn of Brandi.

As you know, I have been working from home and Brandi is out of work.  It has been interesting.  Our hotwife depravity evolves and we've upped the ante for sure.  I know, we are playing with fire.

Wednesday we used the huge black dildo and I tried for the first time ever to fist her.  I know, I'm a perv.   She was still a bit sore from Martin the night before so we cut it short with no success.  Four fingers but I could not fit my thumb in.  She enjoyed it but thought it wold be better if she was not starting out sore.   I think I could have but when I got to the thickest part of my hand it was to much.  It's supposed to be enjoyable, not painful.   Part of the issue is that my even my smaller left hand is still pretty big.  I measured it at over 10 inches around even when duck billed.  That's thicker than anything she's had in her, especially since it is rigid with no give.  

Yesterday, we had made plans for Tre and his roommate, B, to come over in the afternoon.  The more we talked about it the more I wanted to see Brandi in a live gangbang, so pretty soon Tre's gym friend, Brandon was added to the group, at my request.  If you remember, I do know Brandon a bit since he worked out at the same gym we did.  I know, not exactly social distancing, but 3 guys is not that bad.  So, all three guys came over.  We had the privilege talk and also talked about safety.  Tre swears he has one other girl he is fucking right now but always uses a condom.  His roommate had fucked someone bareback recently.  He wore a condom.   Brandon wore a condom too.  I will say the dynamic feels like it completely changed with Tre from back in November and December when I had the issues.  Back then he thought Brandi was running around behind my back.  I feel learning that I had permitted and encouraged Bandi's behavior, really put him in his place, which is still in my wife's pussy.   Ha.  You know what I mean.  We had pulled the shades and put music on for Brandi to put on a strip show for us and show off her talents with some lap dances.   My idea as well.  After all, she was a stripper a few years ago and I never got to watch her.   I'm gonna enjoy some of that now.  They were pleasantly surprised when Brandi dropped her robe to reveal a couple of Qos tattoos and a sexy outfit. 

The temps had come in and she had one on her left ass check and one on her right breast.  Tre knew what it meant and commented, about her be a black cock loving white girl.  I figured I'd be first to the punch by calling her "my little black cock slut".  The guys were happy to join in.  The dancing quickly turned into fucking and sucking.  This was a gangbang with me heavily participating.  I got to DVP her.  The whole thing was awesome.  She's a fucking porn star in my book.  It was better than any gangbang porn I've ever seen since, and I've seen a lot.  A) It was live B) I was in it C) It was my wife, and D) She was not doing it for money but because she loved it.  She's a dirty girl and was no doubt built for this.  She could do some really nasty porno.  Now I know she was not embellishing the stories she told me.  There were times when I was gone where I wondered if she was making a lot of the details up to push my buttons and turn me on.  In fact, at times I had my doubts she was doing much fucking at all.  It just didn't sound real some times.  C'mon, you're really fucking every dude that waves his cock at you?  Being on the phone when she fucked the old guy from upstairs really started to convinced me though.  It got a little rough but nothing dangerous or over the top.  No small dick or humiliation shit in front of these guys.  We discussed this in advance and plan to keep that type of play private.  I want her to humiliate me a little, just not in front of people.  She can tell me how small and useless my cock is after they leave.  
 
Last night Martin was back again for more.  I was surprised that she was still up for her night time date with Martin.  Her motor was running full throttle though.  He didn't even make it through the door and Brandi was dragging him to the couch saying she needed his cock inside her.  This time he fucked her roughly and aggressively as I mostly watched and waited my turn.  He noticed the tattoos immediately and had her admitting her love of black cock.  She told him about the gangbang earlier and it fueled his desire to own her.  He got dominant.  She got really into it.  He pounded her pussy until he filled it with his seed.  I was all amped up as well and opted to use her giant black dildo on her pussy while she sucked and cleaned Martin's cock.  Between the fucking from earlier and the pounding Martin had just given her, she was loose.  Her pussy was well lubricated already but I had poured a generous amount of lube on the dildo which slid in easily.   I removed the dildo and started working her pussy with my fingers.  4 no problem.  I duck billed my hand and slipped into her pussy.  Totally fucking hot.  

"Oh, fuck, yes!" Brandi screamed.

"You like that? It’s my fist. You did it. Fucking hot!”

"Uh, huh."

"Fuck me with your fist baby.  Is that it, you've gotta fuck me with you hand cause your dicks not big enough.  Maybe that's the only way you get my pussy now." 

I slapped her ass.  "It's not my dick, it's your stretched out pussy."

"No, your skinny little dick is not big enough for me.  My bulls fill me up."

I worked my hand in and out of her pussy.  She loved it.   I was gentle as her pussy was stretched to the max.  It didn't take long and she was having another orgasm.  I pulled my hand out and flipped her on her back.  I put my fingers to her mouth as she licked her own juices and Martin's cum from them. I put the huge dildo back in her pussy and then slid my cock in next to it.  She pulled me in to kiss her. I could taste the mixture of her juices, lube, and cum on her tongue. The dildo next to my cock made her very tight and it didn't take long for me to cum.  We did NOT mean for this to go down in front of Martin, but we both got caught up in the moment.  

We all discussed what had happened after.  Martin said that we sure were one kinky couple for being so young.  He asked how long Brandi had been into fisting, and we explained that this was the first time we had ever done it.  Having as much experience as he does he has been involved with it in the past and knew several women who like it.  He said he knew one lady that absolutely loved it and she could take 2 fists in her pussy. 

The conversation turned to the Qos tattoos Brandi had on.  Martin asked if she really wanted to be a Qos. He talked about some of the couples he knows in these situations.  Some women wear them for extra fun when they are fucking with black men.  He said several Qos wives still play with their husband, but all other partners are black guys.  He knows a few that are "pussy free" and don't get to be inside their wives pussy.  He's known of some that don't get to touch their wives at all expect occasional hand jobs or jerking off in front of her.  I told him I fall into category A in that I could never give up sex with her.  

He asked us if she really wanted to be a queen wife and that he would help train her.  He wanted to know exactly how man men she had slept with recently and the ratio.  Since I have her stats saved, I told him since Tre, her first black guy, she'd fucked 39 different men, 29 being black, and in the last 2 months it'd been about 25 total men, with 21 being black.  It was the total sexual encounters though.  I haven't kept track of that but if was probably 10 to 1.   Martin made his point.  For the last several months, most of her sex had been coming from black men.  At one point when Brandi had gone to the bathroom he asked me what I wanted and said that Brandi was pretty far along and seemed to be a "natural".  He said he's seen it go in directions where the wives get lost in the fantasy and the husband no longer has a choice or say in the wife's sex life.  He said, "I can train her to be completely submissive to black men, but you may not like the outcome.  It has to be your decision too, at least at this point.  I'm not saying it will happen, but in can, and I've seen some white women fully convert and lose interest in sex with anyone but black men." 

We discussed this a after he left and again this morning.  The idea is hot but enlisting the help of an experienced guy like Martin to train her, whatever that means, might be going too far.

Epic Day.  Not only did I see my wife gangbanged by 3 guys, I got to fist her pussy while she sucked on a giant black mans giant tool.

[gwwkjt]

Many thanks for the update

All this reminds of orgies wealthy Italians did during the times of Black Death in the Middle Ages. It is quite funny how well the corona situation is working out for you, "working from home", wife and her bulls have little else to do but serving your kinks

You kind of lost me if Tre was using a condom with Brandi or not? I was telling about this many moons ago that these guys who bareback Brandi need to be exclusive, otherwise Brandi becomes a biohazard

What's hell Martin meant by "training"? You lost me there

Was it the first time for you to taste other guys cum when you kissed Brandi? What did you think about it?

[brandiandme]

Many thanks for the update

All this reminds of orgies wealthy Italians did during the times of Black Death in the Middle Ages. It is quite funny how well the corona situation is working out for you, "working from home", wife and her bulls have little else to do but serving your kinks

You kind of lost me if Tre was using a condom with Brandi or not? I was telling about this many moons ago that these guys who bareback Brandi need to be exclusive, otherwise Brandi becomes a biohazard

What's hell Martin meant by "training"? You lost me there

Was it the first time for you to taste other guys cum when you kissed Brandi? What did you think about it?

This is so true. I get to be home, Brandi is out of work, and with the lock down many of her bulls are sitting at home bored as well. I have to say the sexual energy is through the roof at our place right now. We talk about sex constantly and our perversions are feeding off from each other. We were just talking about a possible plan to have her bulls come one day at different times, one at a time, and one after the other. Maybe space them out by 1 to 1 1/2 hours or something. That would be hot. We're thinking of a list and who we could invite. I'm already imagining sitting at my computer while my wife is in the other room fucking guys all day long. On top of that the heat is cranked up and Brandi is walking around half naked half the time. Talk about making the best of a bad situation. Although my work productivity is taking a hit.

Tre did not use a condom. He swears that he has had sex with another girl recently, but he has used a condom with her. Brandi has established trust with him. We are debating a rule where guys commit to only bareback sex with Brandi, use a condom with other partners, and tell us of any new partners. It's hard to tell someone that is limited to sex with her only once per week or so that they are not allowed to have sex with others.

From the conversation with Martin, his idea of training Brandi will be for her to submit to him and do who and what he says. He said he has done similar things with other women. I'm kind of curious myself what "training" looks like. Sounds like an excuse to fuck he more. I don't think he needs one. Brandi is already looking forward to his visit tomorrow.

Yes, I've tasted cum before. We had lots of threesomes with Mike back in the day. I've never kissed her with a mouth full, or gone down on her with her pussy full, or licked it off her, but I've had remnants before. While I don't much feel like swallowing a load of cum from either myself or another guy (I'm just not interested in that), a little left over is barely noticeable and comes with the territory of sharing your girl bareback.

[XYAlpha]

Brandi is not a pet. For you and Martin to discuss "training her" to do whatever Martin wants is beyond the pale.

I am disappointed your journey has devalued her as a person and your committed wife - someone you love.

Your kink is out of control and may cost you everything you hold dear.

I know, negativity.

Just my .02

XY

[gwwkjt]

Brandi is not a pet. For you and Martin to discuss "training her" to do whatever Martin wants is beyond the pale.

I am disappointed your journey has devalued her as a person and your committed wife - someone you love.

Your kink is out of control and may cost you everything you hold dear.

I know, negativity.

Just my .02

XY

Generally the rule of thumb is to treat people in accordance to their self-image or aspirations, which is what OP is doing.

It would be a mistake for OP to take the whole credit for Brandi's development from a college slut and cheating girlfriend into an amazing hotwife, just as it is not OP's sole responsibility if this ends up in a ruin