Wife and my Dad

[elina]

Hello friends

I missed you guys and really feel special so many kept up with my post. You people are great and I thank you all.

Thanks for sharing Dave, we missed you to.

Really glad to see that you have been able to take some time and get closer to a better understanding of who you are as a person.
Personally, I always felt I could have ended up going different ways at certain crossroads in my life; I think that is true for most of us although some have a harder time to admit it than others. Really glad that you were able to take some time to yourself so you could reflect on this without being pushed in one direction or another by someone else.

Also glad to see Paige is moving back in with you. I realy hope that this time the two of you can figure out how support each other so that both of you can move on in ways which are compatible and works out to the best for both of you.

Sincerely
elina

[8toplaywith]

Great to hear from you Dave and well said lonelyhubby.

[desertsub]

Sounds like you have landed on your feet Dave! Glad to hear from you and hope for nothing but the best for you and Paige. If you feel like it's something you want to do please keep us updated on how it goes with Paige!

[txrockdog]

Great to hear from you Dave and I am happy that your life has smoothed out and seems to be going well. Thanks for the update and don’t be a stranger!

[leander99]

Thank you Dave. Glad to hear you are doing well

[Lizardtantrum]

[Shogun2049]

Dave, great to hear from you and I don't think ANYONE here would find it boring for you to drop in every so often to give updates on what's going on in your life.

If it's not too much to ask about or too painful to discuss, how has the family life been? Are you talking to anyone in your family still or has it become too much to deal with? Do you have any contact with or updates about your step dad and ex wife? Last you mentioned, IIRC, they were working on child #2. Are they still together and happy? Any additions to the family that you are aware of? Or do you have absolutely no contact and don't keep up with them at all?

Thanks again for coming back and letting us know about Paige moving back in. If she does, are you looking for a standard monogamous relationship with her? Or are you just going to play it by ear as to what you two do together?

[germancuck-1]

Hello friends

I honestly am so surprised and sorry. I really had no idea so many were still wondering/concerned about me. I kind of thought my story had died off for the most part and everyone (except a few) had moved on. For those of you that were so upset or worried I am very very sorry I left you hanging. I just feel really bad that I made some so concerned.

I am fine and healthy. My life just sort of entered into a new phase a while back and I tried for the most part to put my past behind me. I did not go the trans route for those that wondered. I kind of came close to going that way but I ended up realizing that really wasn't the real me. I also realized after some experimenting that I indeed am not gay either. Looking back over that time I think I was sort of playing a part in my own head that I thought was real/right but it wasn't. It had it's moments and was sometimes fun but it's not the real me. I may be a sub or a sissy or whatever the right term may be but definitely not a homosexual or trans woman. I personally don't get caught up in the labels but I am just trying to express in a way that you guys can understand. For the past year or so I have been single and happy. I was just working on myself and trying to excel at my job and being the best me I can be. I wasn't interested in any relationships or even sex for that matter. I can be a fairly obsessive person at times and I thought the only way to work on myself was to just be with myself and no one else. Once I am with someone else I tend to start concentrating on them or me with them and lose sight of other things. So that said it just felt right to be alone and avoid anything like that.

So that covers where I was I guess. Now for what's to come I do have a life update of interest I think. One other reason I never posted for so long was I truly had nothing worth mentioning. Coming on every so often to say I am happy working on being a better me just didn't seem post worthy I didn't think. But now there is something new worth mentioning. Paige is moving back in with me in January. I never thought it would happen but it is. We've been back in contact for a little while and I do think she has really changed now. She's really wanted to come back for a long time, all this time really. But like me she needed to do some changing. I think she has. We don't have any sort of relationship commitment or anything but we do have feelings for each other so we'll see how it goes. I love her in ways and only want to see her happy and have a good life. She's really a good girl, just often misguided or prone to making mistakes. I think we can work together to try and fix those things. So that's the big news and update. Hopefully everything will work out nicely. We'll see!

I missed you guys and really feel special so many kept up with my post. You people are great and I thank you all.

Hi Dave, great to hear/read from you again!

If you don´t mind me asking: How has Paige changed, and what led to her separation from your dad (assuming they have fully split up)?

[DLD]

Hello friends

I honestly am so surprised and sorry. I really had no idea so many were still wondering/concerned about me. I kind of thought my story had died off for the most part and everyone (except a few) had moved on. For those of you that were so upset or worried I am very very sorry I left you hanging. I just feel really bad that I made some so concerned.

I am fine and healthy. My life just sort of entered into a new phase a while back and I tried for the most part to put my past behind me. I did not go the trans route for those that wondered. I kind of came close to going that way but I ended up realizing that really wasn't the real me. I also realized after some experimenting that I indeed am not gay either. Looking back over that time I think I was sort of playing a part in my own head that I thought was real/right but it wasn't. It had it's moments and was sometimes fun but it's not the real me. I may be a sub or a sissy or whatever the right term may be but definitely not a homosexual or trans woman. I personally don't get caught up in the labels but I am just trying to express in a way that you guys can understand. For the past year or so I have been single and happy. I was just working on myself and trying to excel at my job and being the best me I can be. I wasn't interested in any relationships or even sex for that matter. I can be a fairly obsessive person at times and I thought the only way to work on myself was to just be with myself and no one else. Once I am with someone else I tend to start concentrating on them or me with them and lose sight of other things. So that said it just felt right to be alone and avoid anything like that.

So that covers where I was I guess. Now for what's to come I do have a life update of interest I think. One other reason I never posted for so long was I truly had nothing worth mentioning. Coming on every so often to say I am happy working on being a better me just didn't seem post worthy I didn't think. But now there is something new worth mentioning. Paige is moving back in with me in January. I never thought it would happen but it is. We've been back in contact for a little while and I do think she has really changed now. She's really wanted to come back for a long time, all this time really. But like me she needed to do some changing. I think she has. We don't have any sort of relationship commitment or anything but we do have feelings for each other so we'll see how it goes. I love her in ways and only want to see her happy and have a good life. She's really a good girl, just often misguided or prone to making mistakes. I think we can work together to try and fix those things. So that's the big news and update. Hopefully everything will work out nicely. We'll see!

I missed you guys and really feel special so many kept up with my post. You people are great and I thank you all.

That’s good news! I’ve always been a believer that things that are meant to be will be. It’ll be interesting to see how she’s changed when you’re in a living situation together. I take it her child is moving in with you guys- that’s going to be a HUGE change for you! But not necessarily for the worse. Just make sure you’re not being used as a meal ticket. You said before you paid for everything. I’m not accusing her of anything, just don’t want to see anyone taking advantage of you. (Again, not saying that’s what she’s doing at all.). You’re a good guy!

I’m glad you’ve shared your journey with us. It’s been a unique experience to read! Best wishes!!

[goodjob]

Dave - I remember following this from Day 1. Just as you didn't think it was worthy of posting life updates, a lot of us didn't feel it necessary to bother you incessantly. I'm glad some others kept the discussion going. It's good to hear that things are good for you. I, for one, definitely look forward to hearing updates whenever you feel it worthy of sharing.

Welcome back!

[Shogun2049]

Hi Dave, great to hear/read from you again!

If you don´t mind me asking: How has Paige changed, and what led to her separation from your dad (assuming they have fully split up)?

Germancuck, Paige wasn't his wife who married his stepdad. Paige was his ex-wifes friend who also knew his ex-wifes secrets.

Which reminds me of another question for CuriousDave, if he's willing to delve more into it. Did Paige ever share her secrets of what your ex-wife was doing behind your back or when it really started between them? Again, if it's too personal or too painful to revisit, I understand. I was just curious if you were willing to share some of the other stuff that went on that Paige knew about.

[germancuck-1]

Hi Dave, great to hear/read from you again!

If you don´t mind me asking: How has Paige changed, and what led to her separation from your dad (assuming they have fully split up)?

Germancuck, Paige wasn't his wife who married his stepdad. Paige was his ex-wifes friend who also knew his ex-wifes secrets.

Which reminds me of another question for CuriousDave, if he's willing to delve more into it. Did Paige ever share her secrets of what your ex-wife was doing behind your back or when it really started between them? Again, if it's too personal or too painful to revisit, I understand. I was just curious if you were willing to share some of the other stuff that went on that Paige knew about.

Oops.... sorry, my mistake, lost track of events.

[curiousdave]

Dave, great to hear from you and I don't think ANYONE here would find it boring for you to drop in every so often to give updates on what's going on in your life.

If it's not too much to ask about or too painful to discuss, how has the family life been? Are you talking to anyone in your family still or has it become too much to deal with? Do you have any contact with or updates about your step dad and ex wife? Last you mentioned, IIRC, they were working on child #2. Are they still together and happy? Any additions to the family that you are aware of? Or do you have absolutely no contact and don't keep up with them at all?

Thanks again for coming back and letting us know about Paige moving back in. If she does, are you looking for a standard monogamous relationship with her? Or are you just going to play it by ear as to what you two do together?

Well pretty much like before, Jenna and I have the occasional phone call. Just a check in every so often to see how everyone is. She actually calls me more than I call her even though it's not that often. Maybe every 3 months or so. Her family is all healthy and happy and she is super busy with the whole "Mommy Life". She is still a stunning beauty and I'm sure she's the hottest mom at all the school functions lol.

I will share something I never mentioned before I don't think. When I was going through all my sexuality questioning and transformations I shared some of those feelings with Jen. She was very concerned about me and didn't think I was on the right path. She believed Paige had screwed my head up badly and wanted me to see a therapist. As bad as some think she was or is and how crazy a life change she herself went through leaving me for my father, she's actually a very traditional and somewhat conservative person. Maybe she wasn't always that way but she's grown more and more so since she got with my dad. So she wasn't happy that I was going in the direction I was going. She wasn't mean , just concerned and worried. In the end she was right about it not being the right path but it wasn't her opinions that shaped my views. She just knew me well enough to know it wasn't right for me. We don't really talk about sexual stuff any more. I wouldn't mind sharing and getting her thoughts but I don't think she feels comfortable discussing that stuff with me anymore.

I don't think Paige and I will be in any sort of monogamous relationship. She's far too kinky for anything like that. I guess I am too at this point. We are going to go back to pretty much what we had before I guess. A friends with benefits type thing I guess you could say. Nothing is set in stone but based on the conversations we've had that's my take on it. We've had lots of sexual talk and phone sex and we kind of picked up right where it all left off. I'm very excited about having her back in my daily life. She was always a very erotic and exciting person. I'm looking very forward to her coming back!

[curiousdave]

Hello friends

I honestly am so surprised and sorry. I really had no idea so many were still wondering/concerned about me. I kind of thought my story had died off for the most part and everyone (except a few) had moved on. For those of you that were so upset or worried I am very very sorry I left you hanging. I just feel really bad that I made some so concerned.

I am fine and healthy. My life just sort of entered into a new phase a while back and I tried for the most part to put my past behind me. I did not go the trans route for those that wondered. I kind of came close to going that way but I ended up realizing that really wasn't the real me. I also realized after some experimenting that I indeed am not gay either. Looking back over that time I think I was sort of playing a part in my own head that I thought was real/right but it wasn't. It had it's moments and was sometimes fun but it's not the real me. I may be a sub or a sissy or whatever the right term may be but definitely not a homosexual or trans woman. I personally don't get caught up in the labels but I am just trying to express in a way that you guys can understand. For the past year or so I have been single and happy. I was just working on myself and trying to excel at my job and being the best me I can be. I wasn't interested in any relationships or even sex for that matter. I can be a fairly obsessive person at times and I thought the only way to work on myself was to just be with myself and no one else. Once I am with someone else I tend to start concentrating on them or me with them and lose sight of other things. So that said it just felt right to be alone and avoid anything like that.

So that covers where I was I guess. Now for what's to come I do have a life update of interest I think. One other reason I never posted for so long was I truly had nothing worth mentioning. Coming on every so often to say I am happy working on being a better me just didn't seem post worthy I didn't think. But now there is something new worth mentioning. Paige is moving back in with me in January. I never thought it would happen but it is. We've been back in contact for a little while and I do think she has really changed now. She's really wanted to come back for a long time, all this time really. But like me she needed to do some changing. I think she has. We don't have any sort of relationship commitment or anything but we do have feelings for each other so we'll see how it goes. I love her in ways and only want to see her happy and have a good life. She's really a good girl, just often misguided or prone to making mistakes. I think we can work together to try and fix those things. So that's the big news and update. Hopefully everything will work out nicely. We'll see!

I missed you guys and really feel special so many kept up with my post. You people are great and I thank you all.

That’s good news! I’ve always been a believer that things that are meant to be will be. It’ll be interesting to see how she’s changed when you’re in a living situation together. I take it her child is moving in with you guys- that’s going to be a HUGE change for you! But not necessarily for the worse. Just make sure you’re not being used as a meal ticket. You said before you paid for everything. I’m not accusing her of anything, just don’t want to see anyone taking advantage of you. (Again, not saying that’s what she’s doing at all.). You’re a good guy!

I’m glad you’ve shared your journey with us. It’s been a unique experience to read! Best wishes!!

Yes her son will be coming to live with me also. Huge change and I am a little worried about that. Not worried really, nervous I guess you could say. I've never been put in a caretaker type position so it's all very new. Paige assures me it's not that hard and thinks I will do fine. We'll see how it goes but I do know he's a super cute kid and seems to be a lot of fun from what I've seen. I facetime with him and he's really funny and cute. I'm not stepping in and trying to be his dad or anything, just helping out. Thanks for the concern about being taken advantage of. I would be thinking the same way if I was reading about it like you. I don't think it's like that. Of course I will be paying most of the bills and stuff but I don't see her as using me for that. We have a relationship and believe me she's giving as much as she's taking. Just different ways of looking at things. Thanks again!

[curiousdave]

Hi Dave, great to hear/read from you again!

If you don´t mind me asking: How has Paige changed, and what led to her separation from your dad (assuming they have fully split up)?

Germancuck, Paige wasn't his wife who married his stepdad. Paige was his ex-wifes friend who also knew his ex-wifes secrets.

Which reminds me of another question for CuriousDave, if he's willing to delve more into it. Did Paige ever share her secrets of what your ex-wife was doing behind your back or when it really started between them? Again, if it's too personal or too painful to revisit, I understand. I was just curious if you were willing to share some of the other stuff that went on that Paige knew about.

Well I mentioned some of this before I'm pretty sure but with as massive as this thread is I can understand it being missed. Heck I may be wrong and never talked about it, just seems I did. Paige used to tease and insinuate she knew things. Infact she swears she knew things. Mostly she would hold it over my head and get me to beg for info and she would drizzle out little tid bits here and there. Not just info on her with my Dad but other little bits from their times clubbing together. Was she telling the truth or lying, I really have no way of knowing for sure. Knowing Paige like I do I don't think of it as lying really, just her being playful and trying to get me worked up and giving me what she probably thought I was looking for secretly. As time went on and our relationship evolved into something more I think she started to feels her own little pangs of jealousy if I still seemed interested in Jenna stuff. So once I realized that I quit bringing it up. But she did claim Jenna had started the affair before my mother passed away. I find that very hard to believe. One I just don't think either my father or Jenna would have crossed that line. Now looking back and seeing through 20/20 hindsight I can picture they had the thoughts maybe. Felt the attraction and urges but acting on it is so different. And the other thing that makes me think Paige was making it up was I do know that even if Jenna did act on it and start an affair before my mom died, she never EVER would have shared that info with Paige or anyone else for that matter. Maybe and it's extremely doubtful but maybe she would have confided something like that with her mom but it's highly doubtful. She would have thought of herself as horrible for something like that and I just don't see her confessing it if she did it. I think Paige and her own morals and what she maybe thought was hot and sexy guided her beliefs and she really believes Jenna did that. But I don't think she really knows anything. To this day I'm sure Paige would say she's right and she probably believes it. But I don't think so at all.

She also used to tease me with little stories about Jenna making out with Black guys at the clubs. Now this is different than the dad stuff. Could she be telling me the truth here, I don't know. I mean I know Paige did those things for sure and Jenna did hang out with and party with Paige a lot back then. They had to have some things in common. An attraction to black guys could have been a connection of some sorts. I admit to jerking off several times to Paige's stores about Jenna fucking around with various black men. It was a sexy scenario for me for sure. Only thing I can't figure out is if it's true why Jen didn't share anything with me. She had to see the submissive cuck in me, why not use it to her advantage? I don't know. Maybe it's untrue and that's why. I'd love to be able to ask Jenna now but like I said she wouldn't feel comfortable sharing anything like that now. And if it was completely untrue she would probably be quite offended I ever thought it or brought it up. Oh to have a insight into all of women's secrets. I wish I did!

[viking53]

Dave, it's great to have you back and, more importantly, to hear that you are at peace with yourself. The way you described everything when it happened and Jenna's reactions, I have always been completely convinced that it evolved just as you described it and there was no secret activity before. The interest and passion was there but I do not believe Jenna and your Dad had acted on it until you let the genie out of the bottle. The important thing is that the three of you are happy with the situation as it developed.

I am worried about Paige coming back in your life, unless she has really changed. She has a talent of pushing you way beyond your limits which has what has really turned her on before. If she is coming back in your life, I think you should have more frequent contact with Jenna. She acts as your lightning rod and helps keep you grounded which will help to keep you in better balance with Paige.

[8toplaywith]

She's probably changed now she's a mother.

[8toplaywith]

Double post. Sorry.

[bubbajack]

Curious Dave wrote: . Oh to have a insight into all of women's secrets. I wish I did!

This.

[curiousdave]

Dave, it's great to have you back and, more importantly, to hear that you are at peace with yourself. The way you described everything when it happened and Jenna's reactions, I have always been completely convinced that it evolved just as you described it and there was no secret activity before. The interest and passion was there but I do not believe Jenna and your Dad had acted on it until you let the genie out of the bottle. The important thing is that the three of you are happy with the situation as it developed.

I am worried about Paige coming back in your life, unless she has really changed. She has a talent of pushing you way beyond your limits which has what has really turned her on before. If she is coming back in your life, I think you should have more frequent contact with Jenna. She acts as your lightning rod and helps keep you grounded which will help to keep you in better balance with Paige.

Thanks viking. I do enjoy keeping in contact with Jenna but I don't feel comfortable bothering her too often. Like I said she is super busy with her own life and family. She's not a huge fan of Paige to begin with at this point so pestering her with stuff would be awkward at best, Jenna knows she's returning and didn't have much to say about it. Not a lot for her to add I guess.

The problem with Paige and I was never anything with our sex life or anything. In fact it was never anything she had done personally to me. I don't like going into it really cause I feel bad talking bad about her. I'll just say she was getting too into drugs at the time and that problem is fixed now. I do think motherhood has changed her for the better. She's a good girl and she never screwed me over or anything. It was more of a thing of her screwing some others over and I didn't like it. But she didn't betray me. She feels bad for the things she did now and she's done all she could to make up for it. I think she deserves a second chance. But I really do appreciate your input and see it for what it is, a caring about me and wanting the best for me. I appreciate that! Thank you very much for that!!

[curiousdave]

She's probably changed now she's a mother.

I agree!

[Horseman042]

not yet Lou but we are hoping soon!

[phoenix2020]

Wow, this was amazing. I feel for you Dave I really do. Years may have passed, but for me this is all fresh. I had to read this thread over three nights cumming hard the first night she made love to him. I was living vicariously through you! Unfortunately I total lost my desire when she left you. It was devastating to me too, especially when she rejected you and wanted to be "faithful" to Dad. Total gut-punch and my emotions are still fresh on that one. For what it is worth, you were very strong to let that slide. I think I would have lost it, frankly. Knowing that she probably started this long before you figured it out was even worse. I understand why so many others poured on the hate, etc. You're writing put us there with you and we wanted to protect you(us).

Anyway, I had to get this out. Normally I lurk but this thread hit the right spots. Now that Jen has kids, I'm not so keen on her life falling apart as I was at first, but I still hope that you cut all contact with her. I'm 100% certain she still gets something out of you talking to her.

As for your post-Jen life, not my cup of tea. Despite the cuckolding, I still crave a loving and 'faithful' wife and family. Wish you well!!!

[Pigtail]

Heyyyyyy Dave, Merry Christmas.
I am sooooo happy that you are well. That's all I want. Wish you a delightful happy new year ahead. What are you doing tonight? I feel like I have known you for years, and you are my secret penfriend. Ha ha.
All grieving, crying forgotten now that you assured us of being alive and well. Please don't disappear again without a word. I was having a bad day. Now I happy.
Have fun and enjoy holiday. Eeeeeeee. Btw get back to us with your Christmas day planning.
Hey dave....we missed you
Merry Christmas again. ^_^

[Cory87]

Hope you had a good Christmas Dave. Now that so much time has passed, do you regret pushing your ex wife into the arms of your step dad? I think there are many posters and lurkers here that could learn from your thoughts and reflection on your past and how things ended up. If you could do it all over again what would you do differently? What advice would you give to those that are in similar situations as you were when you first started this journey.