Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[slenderfish]

I have a theory for you to ponder. Perhaps SW is hiding the Mrs. S communications from you out of her own fear of failure. I’m not proposing logical thinking on her part. Emotional thinking is often illogical. If she feels he’s not that into her, she may be feeling she’s not hot enough for him. To protect herself, she could feel keeping this from you insulates her. If you’re not aware of her failure then she feels failure less. In essence, failing herself isn’t as bad as failing herself and you. Sharing after something goes down could be her way of reaping the rewards of success and limiting the sting of failure. Of course it could be selfishness and she just doesn’t feel like she should have to share everything with you. My wife isn’t in the lifestyle, sigh, but she definitely feels zero obligation to share with me. I see a lot of my wife in SW.

Enjoying your thread and living vicariously through it!

Thanks, I'm taking this as my approach for now. I mean, she's my wife, whom I love dearly, and she is still getting her legs in this hotwife lifestyle. Of course she should get the benefit of the doubt.

I'll augment what I said immediately above. I agree the driver here is probably fear of failure. But I also believe she feels an obligation to share with me. and at some level a desire to do so. I mean, that's the basis of our arrangement at this point. She's just working out her approach, and her needs (ego/fear of failure) seems to be higher on her priority list vs. communicating with me. I mean, she can communicate shortly after the fact, and only if there is something to communicate (in her mind). So her not communicating in advance is within bounds. Not necessarily my preference, but I also don't want her to feel smothered. Her threshold for feeling smothered is very sensitive at this point, which is fully consistent with how I know my wife.

[slenderfish]

SW is up late, finalizing her luggage and preparations for departing in the morning. I'm giving her space.

A note, may not mean anything, but something.

Despite today being her last day and scrambling to be ready, she apparently had time (took time) to run over to Mr. G's workout facility (even though today is not her usual training day) all dolled up and spent at least an hour over there. Returned home all chipper. I didn't see any evidence of foul play and continue to believe that she is playing in her mind with an unacknowledged attraction.

I mean, she had time for nothing today (especially not me) yet time for this.

Just an observation.

More on her plans. She did update me on the latest communications with Mr. S and how those are forming up in the plans over the next week. I'll post that update tomorrow when there's time.

[afagehi7]

SW is up late, finalizing her luggage and preparations for departing in the morning. I'm giving her space.

A note, may not mean anything, but something.

Despite today being her last day and scrambling to be ready, she apparently had time (took time) to run over to Mr. G's workout facility (even though today is not her usual training day) all dolled up and spent at least an hour over there. Returned home all chipper. I didn't see any evidence of foul play and continue to believe that she is playing in her mind with an unacknowledged attraction.

I mean, she had time for nothing today (especially not me) yet time for this.

Just an observation.

More on her plans. She did update me on the latest communications with Mr. S and how those are forming up in the plans over the next week. I'll post that update tomorrow when there's time.

Hopefully she goes full bore slut and offers her ass. I'm not an anal guy but there is something about the naughtyness of it.

I'm guessing mr m is still being a gimp.

She's certainly flirting with Mr G. I wonder what she needed there. I'm guessing she just wanted to show off how hot she looked

Can't wait for the update. Consider picking out her lingerie or bra/panties for her play date. Maybe it'll make her feel connected to you or naughty or both

[Aureus]

SW is up late, finalizing her luggage and preparations for departing in the morning. I'm giving her space.

A note, may not mean anything, but something.

Despite today being her last day and scrambling to be ready, she apparently had time (took time) to run over to Mr. G's workout facility (even though today is not her usual training day) all dolled up and spent at least an hour over there. Returned home all chipper. I didn't see any evidence of foul play and continue to believe that she is playing in her mind with an unacknowledged attraction.

I mean, she had time for nothing today (especially not me) yet time for this.

Just an observation.

More on her plans. She did update me on the latest communications with Mr. S and how those are forming up in the plans over the next week. I'll post that update tomorrow when there's time.

Could you catch a glimpse what she was packing? Anything unusual like lube, toys or lingerie?

[lionbrand]

How sure you are that she is not doing anything sexual with her trainer? At least I find it a bit strange that she just visited him for an hour... Well, you know Pinky. I she would have done something how would you like it?

[slenderfish]

SW is up late, finalizing her luggage and preparations for departing in the morning. I'm giving her space.

A note, may not mean anything, but something.

Despite today being her last day and scrambling to be ready, she apparently had time (took time) to run over to Mr. G's workout facility (even though today is not her usual training day) all dolled up and spent at least an hour over there. Returned home all chipper. I didn't see any evidence of foul play and continue to believe that she is playing in her mind with an unacknowledged attraction.

I mean, she had time for nothing today (especially not me) yet time for this.

Just an observation.

More on her plans. She did update me on the latest communications with Mr. S and how those are forming up in the plans over the next week. I'll post that update tomorrow when there's time.

I will add to the post above that her cute workout outfit was without any underwear, lot of midriff, nipple and a tight and clear cute little camel toe.

[slenderfish]

Could you catch a glimpse what she was packing? Anything unusual like lube, toys or lingerie?

Normally I take photos of her packing preparation and post them in the hotties section. Not this cycle, nothing extraordinary. The usual very fashionable outfits, etc. but of course she's headed to the Midwest and it's been quite cold there, so lots of covering up.

[slenderfish]

She went to see Mr.G dressed like that just to say good buy.
Ya Right. slurp slurp.

Chuckle out loud. I made it a point to delay my lunch plans so that I would be home to see SW return from the workout and get a view at how she looked. I came up behind her and hugged, pressing myself against her backside. I complimented her on the outfit and the body, noting particularly that Mr. G is really doing a yeoman's job on her ass.

I cupped her breasts from behind, feeling the nipples pushing out from under the fabric. Matching sports-bra top and high-waisted spandex leggings. Then ran my hands down the front, to her "v" and outlined the camel toe with my fingers.

I then grabbed her ass cheeks and slid one hand deep into the back of her spandex, fully cupping her right cheek with my right hand. She did not flinch or resist.

She then stripped and jumped into the shower.

Nothing to hide.

I thanked her for the show and dashed off to eat.

[Rockhard70]

Yeah, I think we’ll be hearing that she’s been fucking the trainer. Hedging her bets in case the trip is a bust maybe? Too odd she had time for a visit there but not for anything else, mainly you. #sketchyasfuck

[solstice]

Slenderfish wrote: Then ran my hands down the front, to her "v" and outlined the camel toe with my fingers.

I think you are experienced enough to work out if SW had been horizontally refreshed

[afagehi7]

It's super suspect. I thought she was dressed normally and was just picking something up. Her in workout gear showing tits, ass, and CAMELTOE... And the amount of time. She schlepped all the way there and back for 10-15 minutes on the treadmill?

I'm not saying that she fucked him...yet... Just commenting on the very strange behavior. If she had been gone for a couple of hours then she worked out. I doubt she was sweating like a workout.

I wonder if you checked for evidence?

I'm not as sure as HisKelly but I think there is more going on with pinky than we know. We just don't know what it is. I think you would agree with that.

So, her weird behavior aside, has she informed you of her itinerary? Which night is she saving for mr s or m?

[slenderfish]

How sure you are that she is not doing anything sexual with her trainer? At least I find it a bit strange that she just visited him for an hour... Well, you know Pinky. I she would have done something how would you like it?

Well, when I say she visited him, I mean that she has from time to time started going over to his private workout studio (the one he runs in partnership with his wife) at a retail center about 20 min from our house. She has normal paid training workouts at noon on Wed and Fri. But the Monday thing is more recent; on this day it's my understanding that a) his wife is not there (is it her day off?), b) at noon he has no clients and does his own workout, and c) she has asked him if she can go over and use the treadmill so he offered for Mondays during the period he has no clients and is doing his personal working out.

If she had done something I would very much like it. But if she keeps it a secret, then she is turning an obvious win-win-win (her, him, me) situation into a lose-lose-lose scenario. That doesn't make any sense to me.

[slenderfish]

Yeah, I think we’ll be hearing that she’s been fucking the trainer. Hedging her bets in case the trip is a bust maybe? Too odd she had time for a visit there but not for anything else, mainly you. #sketchyasfuck

I think she is lining it up for the trainer, but she is not one to make the first move (her ego, fear of rejection, not ready to play locally, etc.) but I also think this will change as she settles into herself as a hotwife. Seems like the subconscious elements are already falling into place.

After my post (above) from last night, it was late, and I decided it best to point out to her that she had time for everybody and everything except me. She apologized, was rushing around and unaware. That was my point. She offered to cancel the trip (of course, it was a courtesy offer). I said it was really a point that she should consider for the next time she prepares to go out of town.

So she got up early (unusual for her) and demanded I make love to her prior to heading to the airport. In some ways I took it as a mercy fuck, but she was really affectionate and tried to make it extra special. Good on her for that.

[slenderfish]

Slenderfish wrote: Then ran my hands down the front, to her "v" and outlined the camel toe with my fingers.

I think you are experienced enough to work out if SW had been horizontally refreshed

She had not. I specifically checked on it. I was actually a bit disappointed.

[Mark K]

How are you going to pass the alone time this week? You typically have some sort of a project (or two) lined up...

[slenderfish]

You did everything you could without fingering her wet pussy or kissing her sperm filled mouth. Some detective you are. I stand by my earlier statement. You are afraid to actually know the truth. She is again lying to you. I can understand your fear. You just need to also.

I actually did kiss her mouth and took in her scent, looking for any hints but found none. That's when I decided to go "hands on" and check for myself. I didn't want to be crass (read: obvious) and jam my finger anywhere it wasn't invited, so I took the more subtle pawing approach and of course when she disrobed and jumped into the shower, I did a final check of scents and fluids on her spandex and there was nothing.

I'm good at being in denial, it's a gift and a curse. At the same time, I'm self-aware enough to know this, so I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion. Even as I do hope you are right.

[BallSpanking]

LOL ...
A 'hands-on' kinda guy!

[slenderfish]

How are you going to pass the alone time this week? You typically have some sort of a project (or two) lined up...

I have some big work-related projects to complete, as well as stuff related to the home remodel that is dragging along as we wait for some custom-fabricated items to be completed and delivered.

Also been invited to Aspen for skiing, but will likely pass on that.

Doing boys' night tonight and tomorrow night, as a start.

[slenderfish]

It would have been nice had you given us that info in your post.
This is getting a little far fetched.

Yes, indeed. I try to push out info and sometimes in my haste leave it short.

[Freemans892]

You did everything you could without fingering her wet pussy or kissing her sperm filled mouth. Some detective you are. I stand by my earlier statement. You are afraid to actually know the truth. She is again lying to you. I can understand your fear. You just need to also.

I actually did kiss her mouth and took in her scent, looking for any hints but found none. That's when I decided to go "hands on" and check for myself. I didn't want to be crass (read: obvious) and jam my finger anywhere it wasn't invited, so I took the more subtle pawing approach and of course when she disrobed and jumped into the shower, I did a final check of scents and fluids on her spandex and there was nothing.

I'm good at being in denial, it's a gift and a curse. At the same time, I'm self-aware enough to know this, so I have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion. Even as I do hope you are right.

You indicated that Mr. G is married and so he has a lot to lose if things go pear shape. In addition, he has visited your house and determined not only you not a beta male but also a wealthy male thus in some ways he is intimidated by you. If he has done enough inquiries on you through his sessions with SW, he has probably determined that you have a way better social lifestyle than he and his wife has. Mr. G has assessed you as being a stag and you are a type of guy where a wife would happy to become your mistress if you so desired and could easily turn his wife into your mistress. Hell, you swooped in Ms. C into your group on a boys night. You are serious competition for Mr. G thus way too much fo him to lose in this situation.

In addition, there is a high possibility that Mr. G wife keeps a close eye on hubby to make sure he doesn’t get up to mischief with his clients.

Mr. G may only play the flirty game with SW because you come across as being the alpha male. Mr. G may only take things further with wife’s of beta males.

[slenderfish]

Here's the update on Mr. S.

You'll recall the SW was talking about moving him into the friend zone, presumably based on lack of contact and lack of interest. She was effectively waiting for him to wake up and realize she is going to be in the area, and that he should make the first move.

It seems he did not, so she called him a couple of times this past Friday and they ultimately were able to talk for about 75 minutes in the afternoon while I was out. It was this conversation that I was waiting for her to communicate with me, with my self-imposed deadline of before her departure this morning.

Yesterday she told me that he is now in the friend zone, and that he has a new girlfriend. He wants to be true to her, and (it's my assumption) that he said this in reply to SW's request to move to the concept of being platonic friends. Saving face, as it were.

She implied she spoke with him but no mention as to duration, timing, etc. It's her position that if he's a friend, then there is no hotwife element to it and therefore much less of a reason to share with me. I follow that logic. Don't necessarily agree, but if she keeps me in the loop, it'll be interesting to watch it develop.

She's already mentioned that Mr. M is pretty much in the same place.

I asked her if Mr. S is like Mr. M, in that Mr. M is fearful of getting together "as friends" with SW. She laughed and said "of course not, Mr. S even reminded that they are supposed to be introducing his friend Mr. I to SW's friend Ms. A. I asked if they will make this happen this week during her visit, and she said it's quite likely.

So I believe she will try to get together "as friends" with Mr. M and Mr. S. It'll be interesting to see how these play out. I think there is a good chance when/if she sees either of these, it may end up in a result different from what she is thinking right now. I mean, these two have been "in" recently and if they end up drinking wine or cocktails somewhere within easy reach of her hotel room, then why not?

I did notice that SW has gone into pre-hotwife mode already, starting on the day she was on the phone with each of these guys (last Friday). She wasn't even aware of it.

She said she does not expect to have any hotwife action for her/me on this trip, but will have some time alone to sit at the hotel bar and/or local high-end watering hole, and that she will keep herself open to meeting someone for future hotwife action in that area. i encouraged her to be bold but of course to follow her mood.

Again, it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out on this trip.

She has filled her calendar with social events, and only Friday night is open without plans. She is meeting an old friend Mr. J and his crew for dinner and drinks on Thursday night, after she checks into the hotel.

She is staying at Ms. A's house tonight and tomorrow night.

[slenderfish]

In addition, there is a high possibility that Mr. G wife keeps a close eye on hubby to make sure he doesn’t get up to mischief with his clients.

Mr. G may only play the flirty game with SW because you come across as being the alpha male. Mr. G may only take things further with wife’s of beta males.

I've basically reached the same conclusion and have begun thinking about ways in which I can let Mr. G know that I'm supportive of hanky panky between him and Pinky if he is interested and willing.

I mean, he's a personal trainer. It's almost required that he have affairs with clients, no?

Shit, I'd even assist in developing a cover story. He could come over here, to the house, for the trysts.

But I can't see a path to this other than via Pinky telling him, or at least her being included in the conversation. That's one reason why I am watching to see if they are reaching a point where they would be open to this conversation.

[Freemans892]

In addition, there is a high possibility that Mr. G wife keeps a close eye on hubby to make sure he doesn’t get up to mischief with his clients.

Mr. G may only play the flirty game with SW because you come across as being the alpha male. Mr. G may only take things further with wife’s of beta males.

I have just read that Mr. G runs the studio in partnership with his wife. His wife can kept a very eye on him and is able to intuitive enough to know which women are making for a play for him.

I've basically reached the same conclusion and have begun thinking about ways in which I can let Mr. G know that I'm supportive of hanky panky between him and Pinky if he is interested and willing.

I mean, he's a personal trainer. It's almost required that he have affairs with clients, no?

Shit, I'd even assist in developing a cover story. He could come over here, to the house, for the trysts.

But I can't see a path to this other than via Pinky telling him, or at least her being included in the conversation. That's one reason why I am watching to see if they are reaching a point where they would be open to this conversation.

I have just read that Mr. G runs the studio with his wife, so she can kept a very close eye on him and the women that chasing him. Problem you have is that SW not good at hiding her emotions, so Mr. G wife will find out if Mr. G is cheating behind his wife’s back. Look at SW actions with Mr. B of late. Mr. G is wife intuitive enough to know something would be going by reading both parties body language, let’s face it, SW won’t be able to hide her body language.

[afagehi7]

Fish - maybe you should inquire about purchasing some in home personal training sessions as a surprise gift for pinky. Lots of moving parts would have to be greased but it's something to consider.

It would be kind of hot to essentially pay a guy to fuck your wife. I guess I am just a perv

[slenderfish]

I love the concept of Mr. G and agree it's still a long shot, for all the reasons noted above. But at the same time we are in a short game (she is off on one of her adventures as I write this) and a long game.

I'll also point out that many of life's satisfying endeavors are as much fun imagining all the possibilities, as compared to the actual experience.

Examples:

- A woman browsing in the shopping mall (or online) for hours, getting the endorphin goodies by imagining all the possibilities, with it all ending at the actual purchase, thereby compelling to repeat

- A man browsing porn magazines and videos in the old shops; the hunt is often more satisfying than the rental

- Talking about possibilities for the next vacation and imagining the various scenarios

So we all envision the possibilities of a blonde hottie such as SW, living a standard life of a buttoned-up wife in suburbia, but in reality having a raunchy sexy time with one or more studs outside of her marriage.

The various possibilities all work for me, as does the reality. And as I've found, the reality comes with thorns from time to time. Sharp thorns. The imagined or projected versions for some reason never have thorns.

I'll take both versions. Thanks for accompanying me along the way with your thoughts and posts.