Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[afagehi7]

What ever happened to the picture you were going to post.

[slenderfish]

Any updates? What has your wife been wearing for her trainer? Whats next for Mr. B?

Hi, yes, an update is overdue. I've actually logged on here a few times the past days but got sidetracked. It's a very busy time for me, workwise.

You may recall that I had another ski trip with Mr. E, departed midday Friday and returned Monday early evening. The trip itself merits a separate post, which I'll do later. It's not directly related to SW at this point. I will note that we were lucky in that a late dump of snow went through the Utah mountains late last week and provided a lot of fresh powder, which we were able to enjoy on Saturday and Sunday.

I'll observe that she was incommunicado from Saturday afternoon until Monday afternoon. Didn't pick up or return my one call each day, didn't really engage on anything personally via text. Reminded me of the times when she was in her hometown on Pinky matters with Mr. S and Mr. M. But not unusual for her.

SW was considerate on Monday and picked me up at the airport. I'd asked her to dinner that night, to a place she really likes, in between here and the airport. She arrived looking well-styled and sexy, and I got more than a few second looks from people at the curb when she popped out of the car, gave me a hug and a kiss, and settled into her seat on the passenger side.

Trainer:

Friday. I departed on Friday after she'd left for her usual noon training session with Mr. G. Nothing special in her workout dress that day, just normal form-fitting spandex and a sports bra with a pullover top. Obviously I have no idea when she came home that day, but 23-yr old niece lives with us and works from home (she takes SW's office each day for this) and SW wouldn't do anything that would be suspicious to niece.

Sat-Sun. Nothing, as noted above. On Saturday morning she said her date that night will likely be niece, as they both have no game and no men around. Sunday was quiet.

Monday. SW said she did run over to Mr. G's studio on Monday to "run the treadmill" as she does from time to time.

Wednesday (today). SW breezed into my office, running late, and I observed she was wearing my favorite workout outfit (which she knows is may favorite), It's got a plum pattern and the spandex is just thick enough to provide full coverage when she is standing up; but when leaning over (touching her toes, for example) it stretches and one can see the full crease of her beautiful ass. She does not wear underwear or a bra. She also had a high-cut (full midriff) sports bra under a pull-over workout top. I gave her the kiss and wished her a good workout, grabbed an ass cheek and slid my other hand under the outer layer of her top and over the sports bra. I smiled and said how fabulous and sporty she looked. Upon her return, I had moved my laptop to the master bedroom because the house-cleaner is here today and was here working. When I arrived in this room I noted how hot is is (she keeps it toasty) but I didn't change anything. She came home from the trainer at the usual time (about two hours round trip) and apparently assumed I was not here and bounded upstairs to the master bedroom. When she entered and saw me sitting in the easy chair on my computer, she quickly reached over and grabbed a hoodie and pulled it over her workout gear, covering her top and hanging down below her waist.

Mr. B:

I was doing some cooking yesterday and was looking for a bottle of white wine for the recipe. After looking in the usual places, I looked through the little kitchen wine refrigerator (normally for red wine) but no dice. I went downstairs into the larger red wine refrigerator ("wine cave") because sometimes SW will put white wine in there. A yellow stick note was there, out of place (this is usually my domain) and I took a pause to read it because I recognized SW's handwriting; on it was a note "My special birthday wine from Mr. B" apparently to remind me not to consider it part of the family wine stock.

Otherwise, nothing regarding Mr. B except that he's been conspicuously absent and unavailable for social matters the past several weeks.

But I also have no reason or evidence to believe that SW and Mr. B have been in any contact, either.

Finally, Mr. E did reconfirm that he knows Mr. B is not trustworthy around any woman, and that he specifically "unfriended" Mr. B on FB last year because he became unimpressed with him. All this with no idea of Pinky's shenanigans with Mr. B.

Mr. E did express a desire to see the security video of Pinky and Mr. B. Not sure if I should show it to him. What do you advise?

[8toplaywith]

I think we need to see it before we can answer that question.

[2inUPMichigan]

I don't understand what the point would be in showing anyone security footage from your home? Why don't you show it to your wife first and ask her opinion?

If you haven't asked her and you are asking everyone else hoping to get the answer you want that is just creating unnecessary drama.

[afagehi7]

2up - he did confront wife And Mr B who claimed innocence despite all evidence to the contrary. He's taking her at her word but nonetheless it is weighing heavily on him as it would be on anyone.

Fish - if you show him the video he's going to say the same thing everyone else has said. Not saying not to show him but you know the outcome.

[couple20uk]

In answer to your question... basically I agree with afagehi7

I do not think you Mr E can shed any more light on what happened than what been said before here.

Personal opinion here..... Yes I do think it is likely more happened based on the evidence and your character assessment of Mr B.
But I also think you need to let this one go and just take SW at her word before it eats into you too much.

[solstice]

Slenderfish writes: When she entered and saw me sitting in the easy chair on my computer, she quickly reached over and grabbed a hoodie and pulled it over her workout gear, covering her top and hanging down below her waist.
We know she is secretive, and I wonder if she finds keeping you in the dark gives her a kick, pulling on a hoody draws attention to her odd behavior, could she be deliberately teasing you?

[slenderfish]

I don't understand what the point would be in showing anyone security footage from your home? Why don't you show it to your wife first and ask her opinion?

If you haven't asked her and you are asking everyone else hoping to get the answer you want that is just creating unnecessary drama.

She and I discussed it and viewed it last August. It clearly shows her drinking many glasses of red wine, dancing with and for Mr. B and then his taking her hand and leading her to our bedroom after 1:00 a.m. while I was away on a trip with my son and my brothers. She continues to maintain that nothing happened and I came to believe her over time.

Mr. E knows Mr. B well and in unrelated conversations mentioned that he would not trust his girlfriend with Mr. B and that Mr. B had brazenly hit on his girlfriend (at the time) a couple of years ago. This brought to my mind the whole thing with SW and Mr. B last August.

[slenderfish]

In answer to your question... basically I agree with afagehi7

I do not think you Mr E can shed any more light on what happened than what been said before here.

Personal opinion here..... Yes I do think it is likely more happened based on the evidence and your character assessment of Mr B.
But I also think you need to let this one go and just take SW at her word before it eats into you too much.

I had let it go and settled my mind that I believe her, with the surety that sooner or later the truth will come out on its own. But in the ensuing months, even as she became a hotwife, her secretive ways began to emerge and certain behaviors around Mr. B started to re-inform my conclusion. Lately and with Mr. E's input, I'm coming to a revised conclusion that she did sleep with him (or similar).

It's not really eating at me but it will influence how I approach Mr. B on a go-forward basis.

[slenderfish]

Slenderfish writes: When she entered and saw me sitting in the easy chair on my computer, she quickly reached over and grabbed a hoodie and pulled it over her workout gear, covering her top and hanging down below her waist.
We know she is secretive, and I wonder if she finds keeping you in the dark gives her a kick, pulling on a hoody draws attention to her odd behavior, could she be deliberately teasing you?

She is certainly teasing me but I'm not sure if it's deliberate. But your point is a good one and I'll consider it.

[Tryn]

Could you come up with any reasons why she put on the hoodie? Was she dressed normally for a workout or was there something different? Perhaps she realized there was someone else in the house and she wanted to be more modest. My dirty hopes there was a stain on her shirt or she mysteriously wasn’t wearing a sports bra! Lol!

[2inUPMichigan]

2up - he did confront wife And Mr B who claimed innocence despite all evidence to the contrary. He's taking her at her word but nonetheless it is weighing heavily on him as it would be on anyone.

Fish - if you show him the video he's going to say the same thing everyone else has said. Not saying not to show him but you know the outcome.

No one else will give him any additional truth, only opinions.

[afagehi7]

2up - he did confront wife And Mr B who claimed innocence despite all evidence to the contrary. He's taking her at her word but nonetheless it is weighing heavily on him as it would be on anyone.

Fish - if you show him the video he's going to say the same thing everyone else has said. Not saying not to show him but you know the outcome.

No one else will give him any additional truth, only opinions.

Correct. Only 2 people know for certain what happened.

[couple20uk]

It's not really eating at me but it will influence how I approach Mr. E on a go-forward basis.

I assume you mean how go about your wingman activates with Mr E and how monogamish relationship will be with SW?

[anonymister1948]

Have you ever asked SW if Mr. B was at the "all-girls" retreat? His absence may well be fueled by the fear of reprisal when you and/or other husbands find out he was there. While you may give SW the grace to sneak off to bed with another man and lie to your face about it, other husbands are not so likely to feel the same.

[slenderfish]

It's not really eating at me but it will influence how I approach Mr. E on a go-forward basis.

I assume you mean how go about your wingman activates with Mr E and how monogamish relationship will be with SW?

OOPS I meant to write that it will influence how I approach Mr. B on a go-forward basis. I'll go back and edit that one. Though it does also have an influence on what you aptly noted, my wingman activities. I'm not going to be as self-conscious around other women nor as fastidious about how it may seem with respect to my attentions and conversations with other women.

One easy example is the recent ski trip to Colorado. Ms. Cy was definitely into having my attention and even sat on my lap at one point, teased my ear with her tongue, and then briefly kissed my mouth including a little bit of tongue. I did not pursue anything with her but Mr. E said that she had sent word through her friend to him that I was welcome to visit her bedroom at night.

Another is the even more recent ski trip to Utah. More on that later.

[slenderfish]

Have you ever asked SW if Mr. B was at the "all-girls" retreat? His absence may well be fueled by the fear of reprisal when you and/or other husbands find out he was there. While you may give SW the grace to sneak off to bed with another man and lie to your face about it, other husbands are not so likely to feel the same.

I have not yet outright asked her. I was planning to have lunch with Mr. B first, to see if he said anything. Haven't been able to get that scheduled yet.

[afagehi7]

Have you ever asked SW if Mr. B was at the "all-girls" retreat? His absence may well be fueled by the fear of reprisal when you and/or other husbands find out he was there. While you may give SW the grace to sneak off to bed with another man and lie to your face about it, other husbands are not so likely to feel the same.

I have not yet outright asked her. I was planning to have lunch with Mr. B first, to see if he said anything. Haven't been able to get that scheduled yet.

Ask them the same day so they don't have time to sych their stories.

Unless your bidness relationship with Mr b is very profitable, I'd get out of it. If he's the type to fuck a friend's wife he'd certainly fuck the friend financially.

[slenderfish]

Have you ever asked SW if Mr. B was at the "all-girls" retreat? His absence may well be fueled by the fear of reprisal when you and/or other husbands find out he was there. While you may give SW the grace to sneak off to bed with another man and lie to your face about it, other husbands are not so likely to feel the same.

I have not yet outright asked her. I was planning to have lunch with Mr. B first, to see if he said anything. Haven't been able to get that scheduled yet.

Ask them the same day so they don't have time to sych their stories.

Unless your bidness relationship with Mr b is very profitable, I'd get out of it. If he's the type to fuck a friend's wife he'd certainly fuck the friend financially.

Yes, I've changed my plan to be in business with him over the longer term. My partner and I have just about completed the first (and most important) element of our work, for which we will send a substantial invoice and receive a modest but permanent stake in his company. Gotta keep everything friendly and unchanged for now. In the negotiations I was previously going to push for less cash up front and a larger stake, but now I'll do the opposite.

This is one of the reasons why I have again been kicking around this question over the more recent weeks (e.g. what really did or didn't happen that night).

[afagehi7]

Have you ever asked SW if Mr. B was at the "all-girls" retreat? His absence may well be fueled by the fear of reprisal when you and/or other husbands find out he was there. While you may give SW the grace to sneak off to bed with another man and lie to your face about it, other husbands are not so likely to feel the same.

I have not yet outright asked her. I was planning to have lunch with Mr. B first, to see if he said anything. Haven't been able to get that scheduled yet.

Ask them the same day so they don't have time to sych their stories.

Unless your bidness relationship with Mr b is very profitable, I'd get out of it. If he's the type to fuck a friend's wife he'd certainly fuck the friend financially.

Yes, I've changed my plan to be in business with him over the longer term. My partner and I have just about completed the first (and most important) element of our work, for which we will send a substantial invoice and receive a modest but permanent stake in his company. Gotta keep everything friendly and unchanged for now. In the negotiations I was previously going to push for less cash up front and a larger stake, but now I'll do the opposite.

This is one of the reasons why I have again been kicking around this question over the more recent weeks (e.g. what really did or didn't happen that night).

Humm. Perhaps less cash and a large stake is better. Gives you more power...

[slenderfish]

I left the house this morning before SW was awake. Had some meetings, etc. and I filled the beginning of the day such that I would not be home until she returned from her Friday with Mr. G (her trainer). It seems she does get a bit more bold on Fridays with her workout garb.

I did arrive home a couple hours after her usual noon workout, and of course as per pattern she was home and just coming out of the shower.

In a non-obvious way I glanced at the pool of workout clothes sitting on the floor, thinking I'd have a look at them when I could do without catching attention. I tried to remember exactly what they looked like but was not able to get that solid of a look.

But within just a couple of minutes they were gone and I casually drifted past the dirty clothes hamper but they were not there, either.

Not sure if I want to be "that guy" to chase down her used clothes.

[canberraguy4fun]

But, just Imagine the heavenly aroma...

[slenderfish]

So, the conversation about Mr. E. He really does appreciate the guidance and suggestions I've provided in his managing the expectations of his almost-girlfriend Ms. W. You may recall that I suggested he propose a three-month transition into a goal of becoming exclusive. That they are both adults with children from other relationship(s) and there is no rush. That he recently acquired this wonderful boat (yacht) and had expected to date around for the indefinite future, but upon meeting Ms. W he is smitten and can see them increasing their time together and becoming exclusive, perhaps in July or later in the summer. She agreed, to his pleasant surprise.

It now seems that he is rushing to get as much playing as possible during the run-up to that time.

To wit:

- Week before last, when we were on the ski trip to Colorado and crossing over with Ms. Cy and her group of girls, he originally was interested in pursuing with Ms. Cy but quickly found that she had other ideas. So he pivoted over to one of her friends and got that super BJ while at her house. I sidestepped the potential situation with Ms. Cy in my direction, that he tried to faciliatate.

- This past weekend I invited him on my trip to Utah. Details following:

My law firm partner and I have skied together now for four or five years, and he arranged a late-season boondoggle wherein his firm pays for my flight, lodging, food, transportation etc. He was bringing his (grown) son and mentioned that my private room (the in the Lodge) was a two-queen-bed configuration (same as his) so I am free to bring someone if I like. I invited Mr. E. Mr. E and I arranged to be on the same flight and we picked up the rental four-wheel-drive SUV. As we were driving to the ski area, he pulled out his iphone and launched an app call "hinge" or something and started scrolling through the faces of many women. Apparently, he'd previously matched up with one (he'd met her from this app back in January on my first outing with Mr. E, also in Utah but at a different ski area). They got together after I left, at that time in late January.

Anyway, when I checked in at the Lodge, I realized that Mr. E will be having a guest and that I better arrange for two rooms. Upon asking, it turned out they were booked full but could accommodate a two-bedroom suite. So I upgraded us, and asked Mr. E to cover half of the upgrade cost. He agreed; we then went to the bar/lounge at an adjoining property and met up with the others in our group (lawyer friend, his son, and another law partner from his firm whom I'd met and skied with in past years) and had a meet-and-greet over cocktails. Ms. Ce came prancing in at about 11:30 p.m.; she is 27 years old, dressed a bit sexy, and got glances from all around. Mr. E introduced her as his friend. My law firm partner's eyes were extra wide and he just couldn't help himself, he asked about our sleeping arrangements in the room he'd arranged. I told him about the upgrade and he seemed satisfied but unsure.

We said goodnight, agreed to meet in the morning at 7:30 for breakfast in order to be on the slopes when the lifts open, and went to our respective rooms at the other property.

It was a little bit awkward with me and Ms. Ce, in that I'd never met her and had merely spoken with her on the phone back in January as I was heading to the airport on my return trip and she was trying to figure out how to meet up with Mr. E (that night in January). After we got to our suite, I opened the extra anejo tequila I'd brought for the trip, and we tried to find some music on the television as per Ms. Ce's request.

Fast forward a bit, next thing I know it Ms. Ce is on Mr. E's lap on the sofa in the common area, and her top is pulled down to her midriff. He's holding her ample breasts in each hand and asking if I'd like to sample the goods. She is smiling and apparently ready for a threesome.

I'll pull away from the story for an observation. As the husband of a hotwife, I've been thinking about and looking forward to a day when I am able to be in the room while SW ("Pinky") gets physical with her selected man, to watch her pleasure, to see him penetrating her, etc. Pinky has always wondered out loud how that would work, that it would be awkward and difficult with two men, especially for me more as the observer. That perhaps I would be overwhelmed by the situation and by being naked with another man, while the two of us doted on Pinky, and it might not work out as I've envisioned.

With that as the background in my mind, I was sorely tempted to "jump in" without really jumping in, but rather as an observer. But Mr. E of course was trying to provide something for me, as his gift, and there was no real way to get to my fleeting glimpse. Also the larger point that it would not be appropriate within the context of my marriage.

So of course I passed on the offer and wished them a good night, and gave them another round of tequila. Then I was off to my room, to sleep. They did make banging around noises on and off during the night, and when I arose in the morning, they joined me for breakfast but ultimately Mr. E did not ski that day because of other matters that came up. I was with the lawyer group all day and evening. My lawyer, being comprehensive and inquisitive, did find a way to request a tour of the room/upgrade/suite and I believe he was satisfied that the physical facility corroborated with my description.

Mr. E ended up rejoining me late Saturday night (around 12:45 a.m.) and we did ski together (with the lawyer group) on Sunday.

I believe Mr. E thinks I am due a "free pass" because (of course) he is certain that SW did have that roll in the hay with Mr. B. I told him that I don't take it that way. I also explained that I'm smitten with SW and her pink, tight smooth and hairless beautiful body, and that none of the women I saw him scrolling through on the app are even the slightest bit tempting to me. I hope that was a sufficient explanation for him, for now.

[BallSpanking]

That was a very interesting vacation. Your thoughts and motives coincide, and you know where you stand vis-a-vis SW.
I believe that even if she read this, she could have no reason for complaint.

[Triggershy]

Ms.Cy sounds like the PERFECT HOTWIFE!!! Oops sorry I didn’t mean to say that out loud.

No I meant to say let’s still be patient and Mr B and the truth will all come out in the season finale during May sweeps.

Mr. Fish I root for you to get everything in your dreams you seem like a really good guy who truly loves his wife. Thanks for always sharing every up and down.