Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[meandmyboo4]

Hi Fish, I’ve read your full thread and found it fascinating. Thanks for sharing it all. It’s also admirable how good you are at keeping calm in response to some incendiary commentary. Your consistently introspective approach is responsible for a good deal of your success I’m sure and I hope it leads to achieving your hotwifing goals with sw!

[Freemans892]

Hi Fish, is SW aware of the situations with Ms. Cy and Ms. Ce? When Mr E. and Ms. W fully get into a committed relationship, he may mention something to Ms. W about you & SW in regards to Mr. B, Ms. Cy and Ms. Ce. It is better for you for SW to hear the situation from you than Ms. W. I pretty sure that Mr E. will want Ms. W to stay clear of Mr. B, even if he is hanging around SW. In order to do so, he explain to his experience of Mr. B in the past and, based upon your conversation with Mr. E, he is pretty sure that Mr. B has slept with SW. Mr. E may also mention that you are due a ‘free pass’ and you have definitely had opportunities.

[slenderfish]

Ms.Cy sounds like the PERFECT HOTWIFE!!! Oops sorry I didn’t mean to say that out loud.

No I meant to say let’s still be patient and Mr B and the truth will all come out in the season finale during May sweeps.

Mr. Fish I root for you to get everything in your dreams you seem like a really good guy who truly loves his wife. Thanks for always sharing every up and down.

I've thought the same thing about Ms. Cy. In a private conversation with her, she actually asked me if I've ever had a true muse in my life, that she's been a muse to at least a couple of guys and it was very powerful for them. I replied that I do know about the concept, and that it is indeed a powerful thing, and that I have that experience also in my life.

Reminder to myself to remind SW that she is my muse and it's a responsibility.

Yes, the experience last weekend with Mr. E and his date Ms. Ce kind of brought it all home to me, in my mind. Kind of my little brain and my big brain (you can decide which is which, I never really know) coming into obvious sync.

[slenderfish]

Hi Fish, is SW aware of the situations with Ms. Cy and Ms. Ce? When Mr E. and Ms. W fully get into a committed relationship, he may mention something to Ms. W about you & SW in regards to Mr. B, Ms. Cy and Ms. Ce. It is better for you for SW to hear the situation from you than Ms. W. I pretty sure that Mr E. will want Ms. W to stay clear of Mr. B, even if he is hanging around SW. In order to do so, he explain to his experience of Mr. B in the past and, based upon your conversation with Mr. E, he is pretty sure that Mr. B has slept with SW. Mr. E may also mention that you are due a ‘free pass’ and you have definitely had opportunities.

She is not aware of these situations in detail. These are really situations orchestrated by Mr. E in his single-man lifestyle and SW knows him and his situation, and has no complaint with me hanging with Mr. E. She even encourages it; for example, she's heading back to her hometown for almost a week in May (her annual Mother's Day trip) and her niece is also going there to visit her mother (SW's sister). So I'll be alone (well, the dog) and SW has suggested I pepper Mr. E to have a little social soiree on his boat to occupy the time.

Mr. E is not one to spill details around. He trusts me not to messing things up with Ms. W (I could ruin it for him if I spilled) and I trust him not to mess things up with SW.

Normal guys' rules. I mean, we go out most Wednesdays for guys' nights and sometimes there are shenanigans that must never get back to significant others (nothing that would get me in a divorce situation, but I can't say this is true for all the guys all the time). I'm sure there are similar shenanigans with SW when she's out on girls' nights.

[slenderfish]

SW goes back to her hometown on May 5 for just under a week. I hope she will put on her Pinky persona while there and look for a new boy toy. We are kind of in the lead-up to it and I'm starting to slowly and carefully sprinkle hotwife concepts into our conversations and actions.

Examples:

- Yesterday we had good old-fashioned sex and I mentioned how much her tight body is made for fucking, how her wet pussy just tightens around my cock. She said her pussy loves to have dicks in it, and she got even more wet immediately after saying it.

- This morning I said let's do a quickie and she said not enough time, she wants to get up and get her coffee, etc. and prepare for her run to Mr. G's fitness center. She said let's get naked and take care of ourselves in bed with each other. She brought out her trust vibrator and of course got a quick orgasm. I asked her to go for #2 and wait for me this time. She again got ahead and finished before me; her second is always more powerful than the first, and said that I'm kind of on my own, she's done. I then told her to imagine herself with her high school pom outfit on, that it certainly does still fit her (I'm sure of it) and that she is in the mens' locker room after the game, and the guys on the team are all committed to her pleasure. The lift her up with their hands and carry her to the stretching mat, and the only uncertainty is who gets to be first. That she begins to get frustrated that they are taking so long and she really just wants a big dick inside her, to get fucked. She blurts out that the team captain should be first! BAM she got orgasm #3, even stronger than the prior one. She smiled and said that she's now fully relaxed, she wants to sleep a bit longer after all.

- She was out shopping at Target and texted to ask if I needed anything from there. I said nothing for me, but that she should pick up some XXL condoms to have "just in case" for the future. She sent back a "laughed" comment on that text message.

- Of course, she did get a bit dolled up for her run over to Mr. G's fitness studio and I told her she was looking very sporty and that she should be careful, she might attract extra attention. She just smiled and off she went!

[Freemans892]

Hi Fish, is SW aware of the situations with Ms. Cy and Ms. Ce? When Mr E. and Ms. W fully get into a committed relationship, he may mention something to Ms. W about you & SW in regards to Mr. B, Ms. Cy and Ms. Ce. It is better for you for SW to hear the situation from you than Ms. W. I pretty sure that Mr E. will want Ms. W to stay clear of Mr. B, even if he is hanging around SW. In order to do so, he explain to his experience of Mr. B in the past and, based upon your conversation with Mr. E, he is pretty sure that Mr. B has slept with SW. Mr. E may also mention that you are due a ‘free pass’ and you have definitely had opportunities.

She is not aware of these situations in detail. These are really situations orchestrated by Mr. E in his single-man lifestyle and SW knows him and his situation, and has no complaint with me hanging with Mr. E. She even encourages it; for example, she's heading back to her hometown for almost a week in May (her annual Mother's Day trip) and her niece is also going there to visit her mother (SW's sister). So I'll be alone (well, the dog) and SW has suggested I pepper Mr. E to have a little social soiree on his boat to occupy the time.

Mr. E is not one to spill details around. He trusts me not to messing things up with Ms. W (I could ruin it for him if I spilled) and I trust him not to mess things up with SW.

Normal guys' rules. I mean, we go out most Wednesdays for guys' nights and sometimes there are shenanigans that must never get back to significant others (nothing that would get me in a divorce situation, but I can't say this is true for all the guys all the time). I'm sure there are similar shenanigans with SW when she's out on girls' nights.

Will you be inviting Ms. Cy to the little social soirée on Mr. E boat? I’m sure the Ms. Cy will be happy to play wingwoman to her group of female friends for the event. Your last few updates on Ms. Cy paints an interesting picture of her. I get the feeling that she is very selective in the guys she romances with, which is backup by your background of her. She is more than happy to be the side-piece / muse and I get the feeling that is her actual preference at the moment as a result of her recent divorce. The feeling I get that is she wants to play the muse role to married man / men for the next few years.

[Roadtripking]

Sounds like the May 5th trip would be an excellent time to upgrade your home security system. Add new high end cameras and in more places. Then you will know what SW wears to the gym and how it looks when she gets home and what she does with the outfit when she changes out of it. Plus if she ever takes another man into your bedroom, you’ll know what happens.

Trust but verify. Bonus you won’t have to ask her, you will know.

I will bet though you never find anything bad.

Imagination can very easily lead us astray.

[slenderfish]

Sounds like the May 5th trip would be an excellent time to upgrade your home security system. Add new high end cameras and in more places. Then you will know what SW wears to the gym and how it looks when she gets home and what she does with the outfit when she changes out of it. Plus if she ever takes another man into your bedroom, you’ll know what happens.

Trust but verify. Bonus you won’t have to ask her, you will know.

I will bet though you never find anything bad.

Imagination can very easily lead us astray.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, more so recently but certainly so for the past couple of months. The imagination leading us astray bit.

I found myself today in the area of Mr. G's training studio around the time and SF was over there. I kind of drove into the parking lot, the far side of it, to see if SW's car was there. She had texted me about 15 minutes prior that she was running on the treadmill but wasn't feeling as energetic as usual so was actually walking on the treadmill instead.

I didn't see her car when I was there, and wondered why.

Then I realized that the obvious explanation is the most likely. She had already completed her workout and gone home. I drove home and, sure enough, her car was in the garage and she was there eating lunch with her niece, in her workout clothes, recently returned from her workout.

Doh! Our imaginations (coupled with desire) can really run down that road! Gotta keep reminding myself of this element.

[slenderfish]

Will you be inviting Ms. Cy to the little social soirée on Mr. E boat? I’m sure the Ms. Cy will be happy to play wingwoman to her group of female friends for the event. Your last few updates on Ms. Cy paints an interesting picture of her. I get the feeling that she is very selective in the guys she romances with, which is backup by your background of her. She is more than happy to be the side-piece / muse and I get the feeling that is her actual preference at the moment as a result of her recent divorce. The feeling I get that is she wants to play the muse role to married man / men for the next few years.

Interesting perspective. I haven't given it much thought. Mr. E is out of state with Ms. W right now, on a mini-vacation. I think he may be back in time for boys' night on Wednesday. We'll start our planning at that time.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

Hi Fish,

Is mr E. atractive for SW?
How about arange a weekend with them?
So you three for a ski or something...

Did you talked with SW about double penetration?
Od course if you want participate...
I don’t know if SW is into anal but could you imagine that you are having sex and she is on top, you are looking at her face when another guy is fingering her ass as a preperation his cock.
Her moans, face expresion.
And finally a second cock which you can feel through tiny wall...

[Freemans892]

Hi Fish,

Is mr E. atractive for SW?
How about arange a weekend with them?
So you three for a ski or something...

Did you talked with SW about double penetration?
Od course if you want participate...
I don’t know if SW is into anal but could you imagine that you are having sex and she is on top, you are looking at her face when another guy is fingering her ass as a preperation his cock.
Her moans, face expresion.
And finally a second cock which you can feel through tiny wall...

I can’t image that Ms. W would enjoy this scenario. In my view, SW and Ms. W are too close of friends for this happen. It may not be a problem at the moment but if Mr. E and Ms. W are on track to start a committed relationship in July then it could become a problem then. Mind you, I did previously get the impression that Mr E and Ms W were open to playing with Fish and SW on the boat one time, so who knows.

[slenderfish]

Hi Fish,

Is mr E. atractive for SW?
How about arange a weekend with them?
So you three for a ski or something...

Did you talked with SW about double penetration?
Od course if you want participate...
I don’t know if SW is into anal but could you imagine that you are having sex and she is on top, you are looking at her face when another guy is fingering her ass as a preperation his cock.
Her moans, face expresion.
And finally a second cock which you can feel through tiny wall...

I can’t image that Ms. W would enjoy this scenario. In my view, SW and Ms. W are too close of friends for this happen. It may not be a problem at the moment but if Mr. E and Ms. W are on track to start a committed relationship in July then it could become a problem then. Mind you, I did previously get the impression that Mr E and Ms W were open to playing with Fish and SW on the boat one time, so who knows.

I'd have to assume probably not, but after the developments on the most recent ski trip(s) I've come to realize a couple of things with respect to Mr. E:

- He is down to fuck just about anything

- Part of the reason he is so critical of Mr. B is that he is similar to Mr. B in that respect (will fuck anything)

- He is a bit more smooth vs. Mr. B (he's more naturally handsome)

- His type is the same as mine (he likes the fit blondes and is more of an ass man vs. breast man)

- He has a big cock and is proud of it

So I did briefly wonder if he could end up as SW's side piece. Never wanting to say never, I did casually mention to SW that I'd accidentally seen him naked during the trip(s) and that he's sporting a major piece of meat. She replied "too much information" but now it's out there.

[slenderfish]

Imagination can very easily lead us astray.

It turns out that my imagination was not playing tricks on me, but I just went the wrong direction with it.

In thinking back, because I'd essentially embarrassed myself to myself with the Mr. G parking lot cruise, I did realize that SW had said something very cryptic but which got my hotwife husband sense on alert. She'd said something about "an update" early Monday morning then said "never mind" and I'd assumed she was talking about her car rental efforts. But as I said, my sense was briefly on alert. I believe this culminated in my wondering more about Mr. G on that day.

But it turns out she has been in touch with Mr. M. She will tell me more about her long conversation with him.

You may remember that he was her lover (can't really call him boyfriend because he was married when they were seeing each other) at some point prior to my meeting SW. She had kept in touch with him over the years, etc. and I'd always wondered if she was cheating with him because of her secret conversations and efforts to hide them. She began seeing him from time to time on her trips "home" after we agreed she would try her hand at hotwifing, and during the Thanksgiving trip she bedded him (unexpectedly and as a gift to me). He was overwhelmed by it and avoided contact with her for months afterward. Well, they are back in full and long conversation. Not a coincidence that she is getting ready to travel back to his area in several days.

Mr. M is fully aware of her/us being in the hotwife lifestyle.

I'm curious as to the update she cryptically mentioned, and what she may say about getting together with Mr. M. Or if she is planning another surprise.

My birthday is coming up in June and she's asked me what we might plan for it. I may answer her inquiry with not a plan for my bday but a request for a bday present.

A video of her in action with whomever she may choose! Perhaps Mr. M will play along.

[afagehi7]

I can't see Mr M staying saying no to her. He's probably realizing it is the perfect situation and is ready to go for a second helping. She's irresistible

[slenderfish]

I can't see Mr M staying saying no to her. He's probably realizing it is the perfect situation and is ready to go for a second helping. She's irresistible

I agree, she is irresistible. Her challenge will be to find alone time this trip, because her two nieces are planning to hang with her in the hotel, a la "slumber party" from what I hear. But of course she'll have her own nights, it'll just take a bit more effort.

So far she hasn't mentioned anything about this, so perhaps she's uncertain and is not willing to get her hopes up for a plan that may not come together, in which case she certainly won't mention anything to me because of the uncetainty.

It's interesting to watch and observe.

[slenderfish]

More thoughts on Mr. E.

- I believe he decided last summer to buy the large boat (yacht?) after SW put it in his mind that she would love to have a guy friend with a boat. She put the idea in his mind, or at least put into motion something he was considering at some level.

- At one of the first parties on his boat, when asked by one of his lady friends how SW knows Mr. E, in front of everyone (including his almost-girlfriend Ms. W), SW said "oh we go back forever and are very tight; in fact last week he fucked me in the ass. My ass is always available to him." That left everyone speechless.

Stuff like that stays in the mind of someone like Mr. E. It certainly would mine.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

According to Mr. he would be proud to have sex with SW in front of you. I think SW would let you watch if he tell her that he want it.
I know he isn’t a person who you are looking for.
With the other it could be difficult to achieve.

If she said that he fucked her in the ass I think he can make it true.
I don’t know if SW likes anal sex but you can imagine her during that kind of sex in front of you. Just - you said so you want it
But I’m not sure if she would agree when she will see his cock.
Maybe you two should have anal sex more often as a preperation to sex with Mr. E.
It could be also a cuckold game for you and SW.

[solstice]

SW said "oh we go back forever and are very tight; in fact last week he fucked me in the ass. My ass is always available to him."

That would be an outrageous statement if it came from the most shameless of HW, never mind the most guarded of ladies that I assumed SW to be.
Was a considerable quantity of the amber nectar consumed by your dear wife?

[slenderfish]

According to Mr. he would be proud to have sex with SW in front of you. I think SW would let you watch if he tell her that he want it.
I know he isn’t a person who you are looking for.
With the other it could be difficult to achieve.

If she said that he fucked her in the ass I think he can make it true.
I don’t know if SW likes anal sex but you can imagine her during that kind of sex in front of you. Just - you said so you want it
But I’m not sure if she would agree when she will see his cock.
Maybe you two should have anal sex more often as a preperation to sex with Mr. E.
It could be also a cuckold game for you and SW.

I could easily fantasize going down this road. As for actually doing it, If anyone could pull this off, it would be Mr. E.

[slenderfish]

SW said "oh we go back forever and are very tight; in fact last week he fucked me in the ass. My ass is always available to him."

That would be an outrageous statement if it came from the most shameless of HW, never mind the most guarded of ladies that I assumed SW to be.
Was a considerable quantity of the amber nectar consumed by your dear wife?

Yes she'd had many glasses of red wine. So everyone forgives this outburst but it certainly hangs in the air and our memories.

[slenderfish]

Latest Mr. B.

I'm getting the feeling there is a bit more hotwife energy coming from SW of late. Over the past several weeks, a very subtle query has peeked out from time to time, from SW. She just asks, from time to time (and again, not often but by now enough that it finally caught more of my attention) asking if I'd been in touch with Mr. B.

Each time, I've told her that if she wants to be in touch with him, she should call him or otherwise reach out.

On Monday she said she had made a dinner reservation for this upcoming Sat night and would I invite Mr. B along? I said she should contact him privately, so that he doesn't confuse the invitation as a business matter. She went quiet. She then asked again yesterday, and I gave her the same reply.

So she did reach out to him and invited. I had noted that she should probably anticipate and provide that he may bring a date, but she said there is no room in the reservation for that, and she doesn't want so have some random girl in the group.

He contacted me separately to ask who will be in the group, and did not yet confirm with SW. I said SW has invited "the girls" and these are the same girls that she had at the house last August when Mr. B was invited by SW on the sly.

In this separate text between Mr. B and me, I wrote the following:

Me: SW was asking about you I said she should set something up and reach out

Mr. B: I always enjoy our time together

Me: Yep

Not sure if there is innuendo here, but I do know Mr. B and that's how he rolls.

I'm considering offering up that he should assert with SW that if the night runs late, he will stay over as in the past (e.g. implying the second guest room but not stating it).

Any thoughts or suggestions from my OHW friends?

[superb101]

Who all is invited out for this dinner Sat night?

[Mr Mrs Cream]

SW said "oh we go back forever and are very tight; in fact last week he fucked me in the ass. My ass is always available to him."

That would be an outrageous statement if it came from the most shameless of HW, never mind the most guarded of ladies that I assumed SW to be.
Was a considerable quantity of the amber nectar consumed by your dear wife?

Yes she'd had many glasses of red wine. So everyone forgives this outburst but it certainly hangs in the air and our memories.

Let say: life will fulfill her words...

[Tryn]

How about opening up the possibility of him staying the night if it gets late or a wild alcohol laden pole dancing night breaks out, keeping it light and slightly humorous, instead of trying to get SW to invite. It’s the invite that matters most. Or include a statement of how much you like the pole dancing nights and he should try to get that to happen. Horndogs are always up for setting up a good potential environment for action. You could possibly include a light hearted statement that SW seems to get a charge out of dancing for him and you enjoy the benefits from it. If you include that statement, then try to arrange for them to have some private time around the pole, perhaps after everyone is gone and you find an excuse to be away (tired, cleanup, walk the dog, whatever). Hopefully I gave you something useful. Make the video camera captures the full scene!!

[afagehi7]

SW said "oh we go back forever and are very tight; in fact last week he fucked me in the ass. My ass is always available to him."

Yes she'd had many glasses of red wine. So everyone forgives this outburst but it certainly hangs in the air and our memories.

There's some truth in jest. I'm not saying that she did something with him but she's certainly thought and maybe even fantasized about it. That's super hot...her getting hot thinking about your friend fucking her ass. Delicious.