Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[afagehi7]

There seems a tendency that the women of SW set have difficulty in staying married.

I've noticed this as well. Yes and no.

The women she meets on her own, tend to be single. And in the age frame/demographic, more likely recently divorced.

Also that we live in an area that is very outdoorsy and attracts younger mindset people, professional athletes, etc.

But at the same time, some of the guys in my group have done unbelievably well financially and they are not very adept with women. So the women are attracted to the lifestyle and money, are too attractive for these men, and the precarious balance doesn't last.

Difficult to focus on being highly successful and a successful marriage at the same time. Oftentimes women don't understand what it takes for a guy to be at the top of his field and a high value man

Or seen through another lens, often times what it takes to be very successful doesn’t bode well for being a good spouse/partner. I don’t like putting the blame on women for not understanding or appreciating. A lot of successful guys just aren’t good husbands. Good earners yes, but there’s more to being a good husband than making large sums of money.

I wasn't intending to assign blame although it does read that way.

I've often wondered how MDs keep successful marriages as every MD I've personally known, worked insane hours, slept at the hospital, did rounds on Christmas, etc. Maybe the ones I've known were anomalies or on second marriages.

The dedication to one's craft overrules all else, marriage and kids included. I'm sure there are women in the same situation as women are increasingly dedicating themselves to careers

[Parsifal]

I've noticed this as well. Yes and no.

The women she meets on her own, tend to be single. And in the age frame/demographic, more likely recently divorced.

Also that we live in an area that is very outdoorsy and attracts younger mindset people, professional athletes, etc.

But at the same time, some of the guys in my group have done unbelievably well financially and they are not very adept with women. So the women are attracted to the lifestyle and money, are too attractive for these men, and the precarious balance doesn't last.

Difficult to focus on being highly successful and a successful marriage at the same time. Oftentimes women don't understand what it takes for a guy to be at the top of his field and a high value man

Or seen through another lens, often times what it takes to be very successful doesn’t bode well for being a good spouse/partner. I don’t like putting the blame on women for not understanding or appreciating. A lot of successful guys just aren’t good husbands. Good earners yes, but there’s more to being a good husband than making large sums of money.

I wasn't intending to assign blame although it does read that way.

I've often wondered how MDs keep successful marriages as every MD I've personally known, worked insane hours, slept at the hospital, did rounds on Christmas, etc. Maybe the ones I've known were anomalies or on second marriages.

The dedication to one's craft overrules all else, marriage and kids included. I'm sure there are women in the same situation as women are increasingly dedicating themselves to careers

Some careers can't be performed without acceptance of odd hours of work. The endless wars against disease, violent crime, and disasters of all other kinds, keep no regular hours. People who are high minded and mature enough to understand how total dedication to family can and must be reconciled with the dedication needed to do those jobs generally are better spouse material anyway. Spoiled, immature selfishness is only partially appeased by placating the greed factor with baubles. Too bad everyone can't have a trust fund to plug their umbilical cords into forever.

[slenderfish]

Difficult to focus on being highly successful and a successful marriage at the same time. Oftentimes women don't understand what it takes for a guy to be at the top of his field and a high value man

Or seen through another lens, often times what it takes to be very successful doesn’t bode well for being a good spouse/partner. I don’t like putting the blame on women for not understanding or appreciating. A lot of successful guys just aren’t good husbands. Good earners yes, but there’s more to being a good husband than making large sums of money.

I wasn't intending to assign blame although it does read that way.

I've often wondered how MDs keep successful marriages as every MD I've personally known, worked insane hours, slept at the hospital, did rounds on Christmas, etc. Maybe the ones I've known were anomalies or on second marriages.

The dedication to one's craft overrules all else, marriage and kids included. I'm sure there are women in the same situation as women are increasingly dedicating themselves to careers

Some careers can't be performed without acceptance of odd hours of work. The endless wars against disease, violent crime, and disasters of all other kinds, keep no regular hours. People who are high minded and mature enough to understand how total dedication to family can and must be reconciled with the dedication needed to do those jobs generally are better spouse material anyway. Spoiled, immature selfishness is only partially appeased by placating the greed factor with baubles. Too bad everyone can't have a trust fund to plug their umbilical cords into forever.

We run in a group of people not too unlike ourselves; self-made and know the importance and value of hard work. A couple of the guys have been spectacularly successful. One has remained down to earth in most respects; he does have is own jet but pilots it himself and readily invites friends (like me/us) to travel with him. I have an open invitation during the winter, each Friday to jump on board and head to the ski slopes with him. But he does seem to treat his women as disposable, to a degree, although his current woman seems to be here for the long term. Then next guy has under-developed social skills and sensitivity; perhaps that's why he's so successful in the business he's in. But it is a handicap with women and friends.

I've been successful enough, but for some reason do like to be extra busy and take on a very heavy workload. It's something I have to manage, and I do communicate with SW about it. As an example, I wanted to pay for the home improvements without taking on debt or using up savings, so I took on additional projects to cover the construction costs as they are incurred. SW was supportive in concept, but my reduced availability has taken its toll and she has become more impatient with my time (or lack of it) for her. We are at the end of the project and it's now the final push, but it's become an issue in our relationship and I do expect it will resolve over the next few weeks as the improvement project resolves. The financial element and plan has worked out. But I have not had time since July to pursue my avocations such as cycling, etc.

[Long Lurker 34]

Des
Re: Cycling - perfect timing to install the snow tires on the bike.

[CarstonMathers]

Des
Re: Cycling - perfect timing to install the snow tires on the bike.

For me, winter is the time to pull out the dirt jumper to work on bunny hops and also take it to the skatepark for practicing fly-outs and drop-ins. The skateparks get quieter in the winter, so it's easier to take a dirt jumper there. Also a good season for my road and gravel bikes which get neglected all year in favor of my mountain bikes. I'm putting together a new DH but the frame is taking FOREVER.

What's snow?

[slenderfish]

Update Mr. S.

Last night while having sex, SW told me that she "hates" Mr. S and that he has been texting her from time to time to try and start a conversation, etc. She said she has been totally ignoring his texts.

This could be two things; either a) she does dislike him and is over it, or b) she is acknowledging the texts to me in preparation for finally replying to him.

She did push me yesterday (on Cyber Monday) to respond to a discounting offer from the hotel she prefers, when she visits her home town. That's the one where she had most of her hotwife efforts. So I did purchase the equivalent of two or three nights' credit.

[afagehi7]

Update Mr. S.

Last night while having sex, SW told me that she "hates" Mr. S and that he has been texting her from time to time to try and start a conversation, etc. She said she has been totally ignoring his texts.

This could be two things; either a) she does dislike him and is over it, or b) she is acknowledging the texts to me in preparation for finally replying to him.

She did push me yesterday (on Cyber Monday) to respond to a discounting offer from the hotel she prefers, when she visits her home town. That's the one where she had most of her hotwife efforts. So I did purchase the equivalent of two or three nights' credit.

Interesting development. She's at least considering opening the communication again.

[slenderfish]

Interesting development. She's at least considering opening the communication again.

Yes, something is percolating in her psyche.

[CuriousUK]

She appears to be cunningly manoeuvring the pieces into place, she plays this game so alluring well

[afagehi7]

Interesting development. She's at least considering opening the communication again.

Yes, something is percolating in her psyche.

You can only hope she's getting the desire for strange cock... Well he's not strange but you hope that's what it is but he's just the candidate...

[slenderfish]

SW has been pestering me to follow up and contact that new guy, let's call him Mr. J. The one who reminds me of LeBron James, whom she initially met at the first wine event in late October/early November and we deliberately attended another event a couple of weeks later after he'd mentioned it. That is, after he mentioned it, SW told me she really wanted to go to this second (and unrelated) wine tasting event, hoping to a) drink some wine and b) run into this guy and his girlfriend.

I've posted about this previously. I sent her ahead to meet up with two other girlfriends and then arrived about 90 minutes later, and spent time talking with Mr. J, etc. His girlfriend is very sporty and attractive, and they pressed us to get together sometime. He gave me his card and I sat on it for a week or so, and then SW started the pestering.

So I did reach out yesterday.

[CuriousUK]

SW has been pestering me to follow up and contact that new guy, let's call him Mr. J. The one who reminds me of LeBron James, whom she initially met at the first wine event in late October/early November and we deliberately attended another event a couple of weeks later after he'd mentioned it. That is, after he mentioned it, SW told me she really wanted to go to this second (and unrelated) wine tasting event, hoping to a) drink some wine and b) run into this guy and his girlfriend.

I've posted about this previously. I sent her ahead to meet up with two other girlfriends and then arrived about 90 minutes later, and spent time talking with Mr. J, etc. His girlfriend is very sporty and attractive, and they pressed us to get together sometime. He gave me his card and I sat on it for a week or so, and then SW started the pestering.

So I did reach out yesterday.

intriguing, looking forward to how this may develop

[Mark K]

Oh very interesting. Playing out a remote (at this time) possibility, do you think SW would ever consider being a unicorn for them, or might you guys even dip your toe in the wife swapping water, if that was an option?

[slenderfish]

I've been overwhelmed with work (my newest project that I took on in early summer 2021) is really firing up. Also with the house. I was trying to do the paint myself (with the assistance of my kids) and they were good sports, each of them coming up here and spending half a day with the prep work) but after one coat I realized (upon SW's angry insistence) that we really needed to hire it out. So that's done, and my effort on the house is now down to little things like putting covers on the outlets and switches, setting up the home theater, etc.

This is why I kind of went inactive here for a bit.

My spare time, when I have it, will now shift to biking and skiing. First ski trip of the season for me this upcoming Fri-Sun!

[slenderfish]

Oh very interesting. Playing out a remote (at this time) possibility, do you think SW would ever consider being a unicorn for them, or might you guys even dip your toe in the wife swapping water, if that was an option?

The guy is tall, clearly black, and a professional (he works for a law firm in a high-rise in the city center). She is a bit younger, very fit, even more of a gym rat as compared to SW. Seems she had (or has?) some high-profile personal training clients or something like that. She is of color, and has a lighter complexion compared to him. Both super friendly and energetic.

As for your questions, I'd be game for either or both.

Not sure how it will play out. We'll find out!

[slenderfish]

I'm forming my next "analysis and impressions" update. Kind of working through my hotwifing thoughts and impressions in my head, over the past couple of weeks. I feel it coming together within the next few days.

[CuriousUK]

Looking forward to your thoughts

[BallSpanking]

Penny for your thoughts, Fish ...

[slenderfish]

Not quite there on the thoughts, but a quick update for chewing in the meantime.

I'm back to my business trips two or three days each week, two time zones away from where we live. This week a quick trip; departed 7:00 a.m. Wednesday and return 7:00 p.m. Thursday (tonight).

So last night she met a girlfriend at a wine place we love to frequent, in a more happening part of town about 25 min drive away from home. It's a place for the "pretty" people. I did speak to her a bit as she was getting ready to go out, which was just after dinner for me. I asked her to send me an image of her all dolled up, like I do from time to time, but she never provides. Sometimes when she's out, she will be in a pic with her friend and then send to me.

I stayed up late doing work but got distracted thinking about her being out, etc. I watched No Time to Die online and fell asleep around 1:00 a.m. local time, 11:00 p.m. for SW, but hadn't heard or seen anything from her. I figured she was having a nice time, etc. and went off to slumber imagining all sorts of naughty things she night be doing.

I woke up and rushed around to make it to the office in advance of a high-level meeting I was hosting at 9:30 a.m. Was rushing down the elevator of the hotel and looked at my phone to check whether I had time for a bite to eat, and noticed a new text message from SW.

Upon looking at it, I was shocked and surprised that it was her doing a selfie of herself in lingerie, kind of teasing/modeling it for me. Looking fabulous! It was time stamped 4:10 a.m. my time (2:10 a.m. her time). She has never even worn lingerie before, to my knowledge, and of course never taken sexy selfies and sent to me.

Whatever in the world had her a) awake at 2:10 a.m. and dressed in lingerie and b) in spirits to take the images and send? The imagination runs and runs!

[afagehi7]

Not quite there on the thoughts, but a quick update for chewing in the meantime.

I'm back to my business trips two or three days each week, two time zones away from where we live. This week a quick trip; departed 7:00 a.m. Wednesday and return 7:00 p.m. Thursday (tonight).

So last night she met a girlfriend at a wine place we love to frequent, in a more happening part of town about 25 min drive away from home. It's a place for the "pretty" people. I did speak to her a bit as she was getting ready to go out, which was just after dinner for me. I asked her to send me an image of her all dolled up, like I do from time to time, but she never provides. Sometimes when she's out, she will be in a pic with her friend and then send to me.

I stayed up late doing work but got distracted thinking about her being out, etc. I watched No Time to Die online and fell asleep around 1:00 a.m. local time, 11:00 p.m. for SW, but hadn't heard or seen anything from her. I figured she was having a nice time, etc. and went off to slumber imagining all sorts of naughty things she night be doing.

I woke up and rushed around to make it to the office in advance of a high-level meeting I was hosting at 9:30 a.m. Was rushing down the elevator of the hotel and looked at my phone to check whether I had time for a bite to eat, and noticed a new text message from SW.

Upon looking at it, I was shocked and surprised that it was her doing a selfie of herself in lingerie, kind of teasing/modeling it for me. Looking fabulous! It was time stamped 4:10 a.m. my time (2:10 a.m. her time). She has never even worn lingerie before, to my knowledge, and of course never taken sexy selfies and sent to me.

Whatever in the world had her a) awake at 2:10 a.m. and dressed in lingerie and b) in spirits to take the images and send? The imagination runs and runs!

Maybe the lingerie was for Mr M (or was it S that's trying to get back in the game?)

[R_H_NC]

Mr. B slinking around again ?

Just kidding...........

[il2sw]

She has never even worn lingerie before, to my knowledge, and of course never taken sexy selfies and sent to me.

Maybe, or better, hopefully she sent the sexy selfie to another man first. My wife has sent me sexy selfies that after some time I’ve learned that I was not the first man to see them.

Perhaps you can try opening the door for her to tell you by saying something along the lines of how lucky you are to receive such a hot picture and how many other men would love to receive a pic like that from her.

[BallSpanking]

She has never even worn lingerie before, to my knowledge, and of course never taken sexy selfies and sent to me.

Maybe she meant it for someone else ...

[slenderfish]

She has never even worn lingerie before, to my knowledge, and of course never taken sexy selfies and sent to me.

Maybe, or better, hopefully she sent the sexy selfie to another man first. My wife has sent me sexy selfies that after some time I’ve learned that I was not the first man to see them.

Perhaps you can try opening the door for her to tell you by saying something along the lines of how lucky you are to receive such a hot picture and how many other men would love to receive a pic like that from her.

I did consider that she was doing it for someone else and that I got a copy. That's really hot! I'll find out.

[afagehi7]

She has never even worn lingerie before, to my knowledge, and of course never taken sexy selfies and sent to me.

Maybe, or better, hopefully she sent the sexy selfie to another man first. My wife has sent me sexy selfies that after some time I’ve learned that I was not the first man to see them.

Perhaps you can try opening the door for her to tell you by saying something along the lines of how lucky you are to receive such a hot picture and how many other men would love to receive a pic like that from her.

I did consider that she was doing it for someone else and that I got a copy. That's really hot! I'll find out.

I think it's definitely for someone else... Question is who?

Even if she didn't send them to someone else, she was likely thinking about it and testing it out on you to see a male response