Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[slenderfish]

I do have one thing I overlooked yesterday when I was posting.

Last week after going out for dinner SW was in a wined-up mood and when we went to bed I was really turned on by her playfulness and sexiness. I essentially "jumped her bones" as they say.

During the heat of the action I asked her for her present thoughts about Mr. S. She said it was such a disappointment, his loss, that he did not respect her enough to engage. I agreed and said it would have been nice if he had just figured out and given it a modicum of effort, that it could have been a long=term and continuing affair. She agreed and again said "his loss." I said it was all of our loss.

Then we turned to the fucking and had a good ending.

[anonymister1948]

I probably missed it, but have you all talked about that time with Mr. S and her old friend with the therapist? Is she aware that it happened?

[afagehi7]

Well at least you know she's open to a longer term repeat scenario, if that's what you want. Mr S would have been ok for this because of his distance, a close long term boyfriend, mehhh, I dunno about that

[slenderfish]

I probably missed it, but have you all talked about that time with Mr. S and her old friend with the therapist? Is she aware that it happened?

Good question. We have talked about the hotwife kink and that she "dipped her toe" and tried it, but left the details for a future time. Apparently the therapist wants to focus on foundational things.

Yesterday we had another session, but SF had a bad headache and needed to get to her Chiropractor. She asked me to use the time for my first solo session with the therapist, which I did.

The therapist, during the latter part of my session, told me that the foundational stuff we are focusing on right now is the key to unlocking SW's desire and that she (the therapist) is confident that successfully navigating this part of it will pay off later, that SW will likely be open to many things including embracing the hotwife lifestyle.

Either this is true, or she is an effective salesperson. We will find out!

[slenderfish]

Well at least you know she's open to a longer term repeat scenario, if that's what you want. Mr S would have been ok for this because of his distance, a close long term boyfriend, mehhh, I dunno about that

Yes, this is a change in that she has, in recent recounting of it, cast it in a way that was more discouraging.

[slenderfish]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

It is possible to ask SW for such dirty game where SW calls you as Mr. S and will be prepared for anal while wearing butt plug for this „date”.
Let’s manage a date in hotel room where you both come separately… and you are Mr. S the anal guy.
She may be blindfolded…

Maybe it needs to be discussed with the therapist?
Or maybe she will have a different idea.

[afagehi7]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

Wait, I thought she said she did give him her ass? Was that Mr M?

[slenderfish]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

Wait, I thought she said she did give him her ass? Was that Mr M?

So, it's now a matter of debate whether she really gave him her ass that one time. She now says she only told me it, during the heat of sex one night, to rev me up.

Therefore, I continue to carefully dance on and around the subject. Being careful not to make it "a thing" with too much energy.

[slenderfish]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

It is possible to ask SW for such dirty game where SW calls you as Mr. S and will be prepared for anal while wearing butt plug for this „date”.
Let’s manage a date in hotel room where you both come separately… and you are Mr. S the anal guy.
She may be blindfolded…

Maybe it needs to be discussed with the therapist?
Or maybe she will have a different idea.

Continuing to like all your ideas and suggestions.

[afagehi7]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

Wait, I thought she said she did give him her ass? Was that Mr M?

So, it's now a matter of debate whether she really gave him her ass that one time. She now says she only told me it, during the heat of sex one night, to rev me up.

Therefore, I continue to carefully dance on and around the subject. Being careful not to make it "a thing" with too much energy.

I'm with you here... It's ambiguous. First, the way described didn't sound like some fantasy talk... It sounded real. Fantasy talk she would have just made a sexy scene, NOT describe the premeditated process of preparation.

Would she tell you if she did? That's the question and a terrible thing that we don't know. Maybe she was just playing with you or maybe she got a little embarrassed (or something) and recanted...

I'm seriously torn on which it is.

[anonymister1948]

I probably missed it, but have you all talked about that time with Mr. S and her old friend with the therapist? Is she aware that it happened?

Good question. We have talked about the hotwife kink and that she "dipped her toe" and tried it, but left the details for a future time. Apparently the therapist wants to focus on foundational things.

Yesterday we had another session, but SF had a bad headache and needed to get to her Chiropractor. She asked me to use the time for my first solo session with the therapist, which I did.

The therapist, during the latter part of my session, told me that the foundational stuff we are focusing on right now is the key to unlocking SW's desire and that she (the therapist) is confident that successfully navigating this part of it will pay off later, that SW will likely be open to many things including embracing the hotwife lifestyle.

Either this is true, or she is an effective salesperson. We will find out!

Is all this work going to help with the Mr. B episodes? It's like this very good therapist isn't getting the whole picture. (I doubt that one day she says, "So that's why you hid your affair?" Without you ever saying a thing about it.) The therapist's methodology may not change, but I doubt that will be the case.

[slenderfish]

During that recent conversation about Mr. S and how it might have played out if it had continued in the way SW had intended, I asked her if she would have let him take her ass. She said definitely, because he's an ass guy and he asked for it every time. She said she undoubtedly would have done it for him at some point, that she was essentially already ready to do so but was just waiting for the proper time.

Wait, I thought she said she did give him her ass? Was that Mr M?

So, it's now a matter of debate whether she really gave him her ass that one time. She now says she only told me it, during the heat of sex one night, to rev me up.

Therefore, I continue to carefully dance on and around the subject. Being careful not to make it "a thing" with too much energy.

I'm with you here... It's ambiguous. First, the way described didn't sound like some fantasy talk... It sounded real. Fantasy talk she would have just made a sexy scene, NOT describe the premeditated process of preparation.

Would she tell you if she did? That's the question and a terrible thing that we don't know. Maybe she was just playing with you or maybe she got a little embarrassed (or something) and recanted...

I'm seriously torn on which it is.

I'm also seriously uncertain. She said i the not-too-distant past that she doesn't believe I could handle the truth in reference to Mr. S. That was kind of what prompted me to carefully inquire, and voila she told me she did it.

But yes, she has apparently recanted and now plays coy.

In looking back at that time, the long weekend of Thanksgiving 2020, she was really pushing the envelope and not only had her times with Mr. S, but also seduced Mr. M. Also, on reflection, the fact that she holds such disdain for Mr. S even at this point, may be extra energized by the fact she gave him her ass and yet he still didn't pursue her as she'd expected.

[slenderfish]

I probably missed it, but have you all talked about that time with Mr. S and her old friend with the therapist? Is she aware that it happened?

Good question. We have talked about the hotwife kink and that she "dipped her toe" and tried it, but left the details for a future time. Apparently the therapist wants to focus on foundational things.

Yesterday we had another session, but SF had a bad headache and needed to get to her Chiropractor. She asked me to use the time for my first solo session with the therapist, which I did.

The therapist, during the latter part of my session, told me that the foundational stuff we are focusing on right now is the key to unlocking SW's desire and that she (the therapist) is confident that successfully navigating this part of it will pay off later, that SW will likely be open to many things including embracing the hotwife lifestyle.

Either this is true, or she is an effective salesperson. We will find out!

Is all this work going to help with the Mr. B episodes? It's like this very good therapist isn't getting the whole picture. (I doubt that one day she says, "So that's why you hid your affair?" Without you ever saying a thing about it.) The therapist's methodology may not change, but I doubt that will be the case.

Well, I must be honest and it's a practical issue thus far. At $250 per hour the time is relatively scarce and we haven't even got to that yet. Focusing on the groundwork that will allow SW to better embrace her (and my) sexuality, to better trust, etc. Not presently getting bogged down with complaints from the past.

Or as the line in Monty Python put it, "Let's bicker and argue about who killed who" at this point.

[slenderfish]

I think I mentioned that Mr. E has officially declared Season 2 of Above Deck. Got his boat out a couple of weeks ago and hosted a friend's (girl) birthday party, for about 35 people. His girlfriend (whom SW does not prefer because she was too sexy and too forward with SW last 4th of July party) was not in attendance. But neither was SW. I had a nice time and everyone inquired about SW, asking when they would see her next.

The next yacht party in the season is on the 17th, St. Patrick's Day. SW is fired up to attend. Last year's was off the charts, and she really endeared herself to the group at that one. She has been organizing her party outfit.

[Mr Mrs Cream]

Well, I must be honest and it's a practical issue thus far. At $250 per hour the time is relatively scarce and we haven't even got to that yet. Focusing on the groundwork that will allow SW to better embrace her (and my) sexuality, to better trust, etc. Not presently getting bogged down with complaints from the past.

Or as the line in Monty Python put it, "Let's bicker and argue about who killed who" at this point.

I think it is the best way to let SW be more confident as hotwife.
Maybe one day she try to be slut wife so she will agree for a sex with a couple or two man.
Have you ever thought about her with another woman or with two men?
And she let you see her how she will have DP with two men and swallow both men cum.
And then she will tell you all the details how does it feel (from the holes perpective) to have two men at once and how do they cum taste.

No I can see a change in her confidence so she told you that she agreed for anal sex with Mr. S.
You may mention during session that imprtant for you is to make SW becomes more open to telling about her experiences. So you are courius about her anal experience and she will tell you (or record an audio story) all the details during e.g. handjob.

[slenderfish]

No I can see a change in her confidence so she told you that she agreed for anal sex with Mr. S.
You may mention during session that imprtant for you is to make SW becomes more open to telling about her experiences. So you are courius about her anal experience and she will tell you (or record an audio story) all the details during e.g. handjob.

I do have the recordings of he retelling the story; these are the phone messages she provided immediately after her encounters with Mr. M and then Mr. S in late 2020. These are gold to me!

[slenderfish]

So SW met up with two girlfriends (Ms. W and Ms. S) yesterday for an afternoon of girl time and pink wine. I got a call around 5:00 that they had met up with some guy friends of Ms. W, at an Irish pub just down from our house. Yesterday was full of St. Patrick's Day celebrations. SW asked me to join them, now that it became a mixed group.

Ms. S is the same Ms. S from New Year's Eve, the one who flirted with me and whom I drove home late late. Ms. W is the same Ms. W whom Mr. E was dating a year ago, and is almost a twin of SW. Same height, shape, size, fashion sense, they exchange clothes, etc. They hammed it up a bit when I asked to take some pictures of them. Just beautiful! Mr. E broke up with Ms. W last April/May and this is why SW really does not like Mr. E's new girlfriend, because she is so smitten with Ms. W and feels that Mr. E screwed her over. Also that Mr. E's new girlfriend totally hit on and made passes at SW last July, before she became Mr. E's girlfriend.

Though we will be attending Mr. E's St Patrick's Day party on his boat, on Thursday, and his new girlfriend will be there as a co-host. SW has been warming up to her a little bit, at least enough to agree to attend the party.

I got cleaned up, dressed properly, and walked over to where they were hanging out. I deliberately took a bit of extra time, so that SW would be there and likely chatted up by single guys. When I arrived, she was indeed being chatted up by a new guy Mr. T and, of course, when I arrived he dialed down his vigor. Mr. T departed with one of the other girls in the larger group after about an hour, supposedly to get her into an Uber back to her husband whom they all know well. About two hours later, her husband called looking for her. She made it home but those two hours remained a mystery.

Ms. S had another social commitment and left the group around 7 p.m. I gave her the normal hug and told her it was so nice to see her, it'd been some time for me. She made a suggestive comment but I left it alone.

SW and I later dropped SW's car at the house and then proceeded to have a night of drinking and kind of bar hopping with Ms. W and a couple of guys. Ran into friends here and there. SW is sleeping it off this morning.

Once we got home last night, late, and while SW was reflecting on her day, I noted that we really do need to get the lap dancing and pole dancing back into our house. She laughed and said that she welcomes it, but that Ms. M is now married, pregnant, and lives two time zones away. I said that SW will have to take the mantle of the responsibility and lead the effort. She said it sounds like fun!

[Long Lurker 34]

SF

"new guy Mr. T".

With Mohawk and gold chains I hope.

[slenderfish]

SF

"new guy Mr. T".

With Mohawk and gold chains I hope.

I thought about that when I noted this guy's name. He's not really a new guy in the sense that I don't see him as any continuing figure.

[slenderfish]

But Mr. G continues to be an ongoing figure.

SW has been dealing with some muscle and tension headaches, neck-aches, etc. Tonight we were out to dinner and she got a text from Mr. G indicating he'd like her to come around just a bit earlier tomorrow.

She then told me she'd been taking me up on my suggestion to have him spend time massaging her sore muscles, etc. That he is quite good with her neck and shoulders.

[afagehi7]

But Mr. G continues to be an ongoing figure.

SW has been dealing with some muscle and tension headaches, neck-aches, etc. Tonight we were out to dinner and she got a text from Mr. G indicating he'd like her to come around just a bit earlier tomorrow.

She then told me she'd been taking me up on my suggestion to have him spend time massaging her sore muscles, etc. That he is quite good with her neck and shoulders.

If he wasn't married, they'd be fucking. I respect his willpower because I would have already bedded her

[setv4]

But Mr. G continues to be an ongoing figure.

SW has been dealing with some muscle and tension headaches, neck-aches, etc. Tonight we were out to dinner and she got a text from Mr. G indicating he'd like her to come around just a bit earlier tomorrow.

She then told me she'd been taking me up on my suggestion to have him spend time massaging her sore muscles, etc. That he is quite good with her neck and shoulders.

If he wasn't married, they'd be fucking. I respect his willpower because I would have already bedded her

It may just be a matter of Time or Timing, but it seems that there are some pretty good odds that the two of them surcome to their 'needs' and fuck...
...as long as his Wife doesn't find out, lol

[slenderfish]

If he wasn't married, they'd be fucking. I respect his willpower because I would have already bedded her

It may just be a matter of Time or Timing, but it seems that there are some pretty good odds that the two of them surcome to their 'needs' and fuck...
...as long as his Wife doesn't find out, lol

I agree. I remind all of us it's clear Mr. G prefers the all-American blonde look, and fitness. His wife is mostly that, but she is about a 6, compared to SW's 10 in both categories.

SW wears tight and fashionable spandex, clearly no underwear, nipples protruding, tight derriere.

He is a powerful man physically, and apparently also got the will power.

[BallSpanking]

I have been keeping up with your thread, SF, and have to say that the couples therapy seems to be having a positive effect.
Yes, SW is still SW, high strung and skittish, but she seems more relaxed and accepting of her own sexuality, and can even refer to it in casual conversation with you, and appears to be much more at ease.

The physical barrier has been broken between her and Mr T, that is a good thing. Maybe it will now progress to full body massages and more.
As long as she is leading the way, she should be happy.