Her Plan to Dip Toe in Hotwife Water

[CuriousUK]

Here’s hoping SW pushes your buttons while you’re away Your imagination will be working overtime

[afagehi7]

Here’s hoping SW pushes your buttons while you’re away Your imagination will be working overtime

Maybe there's still a chance for his birthday present... Probably not but just the potential is exciting to consider

[slenderfish]

Here’s hoping SW pushes your buttons while you’re away Your imagination will be working overtime

Maybe there's still a chance for his birthday present... Probably not but just the potential is exciting to consider

Indeed. SW already told me she has plans on Friday night to go out with Ms. J, who has been quite an instigator herself.

SW obtained the phone number of (as SW put it) "young handsome black guy" (Mr. J) a few weeks ago when we were out with Ms. J and ended up dancing and closing the club. SW later said she'd obtained Mr. J's number "for Ms. J" but I told her my observations were that he was more interested in SW vs. Ms. J.

[Long Lurker 34]

Here’s hoping SW pushes your buttons while you’re away Your imagination will be working overtime

Maybe there's still a chance for his birthday present... Probably not but just the potential is exciting to consider

Indeed. SW already told me she has plans on Friday night to go out with Ms. J, who has been quite an instigator herself.

SW obtained the phone number of (as SW put it) "young handsome black guy" (Mr. J) a few weeks ago when we were out with Ms. J and ended up dancing and closing the club. SW later said she'd obtained Mr. J's number "for Ms. J" but I told her my observations were that he was more interested in SW vs. Ms. J.

SF - Ms J and Mr J aren't going to be the least bit confusing as the storey continues .

[TheHammer]

SF - Ms J and Mr J aren't going to be the least bit confusing as the storey continues .

Maybe just refer to them as Jessica and James, or Jill and Joe.

[slenderfish]

SF - Ms J and Mr J aren't going to be the least bit confusing as the storey continues .

Maybe just refer to them as Jessica and James, or Jill and Joe.

I'll use Mr. Jay and Ms. J.

[superb101]

Did you ever get the security cameras hooked up at your house?

[slenderfish]

Did you ever get the security cameras hooked up at your house?

Ah, I knew this would come up. I thought about it as well. It's a good point, but I can't see suddenly setting up any camera at this exact time. Too obvious.

I think SW and I are at a place in our relationship that I wouldn't need security cameras, rather, that she would be clear and honest. She probably believes there is some kind of way I'd know anyway.

So off we go.

[CuriousUK]

I’m sure you’ll keep offering SW some tempting, naughty ideas she’ll be inclined to think about and ponder while you’re away

[slenderfish]

I’m sure you’ll keep offering SW some tempting, naughty ideas she’ll be inclined to think about and ponder while you’re away

We had sex last night and I was whispering how hot she looked up dancing on the bar in her tight red dress, showing "everything" to all the men in the bar, giving hard-ons to each of them who certainly wanted to fuck her then and there. It was powerful.

[CuriousUK]

I’m sure you’ll keep offering SW some tempting, naughty ideas she’ll be inclined to think about and ponder while you’re away

We had sex last night and I was whispering how hot she looked up dancing on the bar in her tight red dress, showing "everything" to all the men in the bar, giving hard-ons to each of them who certainly wanted to fuck her then and there. It was powerful.

We salute you Sir....

[afagehi7]

I’m sure you’ll keep offering SW some tempting, naughty ideas she’ll be inclined to think about and ponder while you’re away

We had sex last night and I was whispering how hot she looked up dancing on the bar in her tight red dress, showing "everything" to all the men in the bar, giving hard-ons to each of them who certainly wanted to fuck her then and there. It was powerful.

Was it also powerful for her?

[veub]

Was it also powerful for her?

It must have been,
Personally, I can't see why SW and SF are still together. He's been nagging her for 2 years to do something that she clearly doesn't want to do and has even brought in a "therapist" to manipulate her to acceding to his wishes. Whatever she may or may not have done with Mr. B, I would think that she would be tired of this by now.
SF must be the world's greatest lover or the money is too good to give up.

[william70]

Was it also powerful for her?

It must have been,
Personally, I can't see why SW and SF are still together. He's been nagging her for 2 years to do something that she clearly doesn't want to do and has even brought in a "therapist" to manipulate her to acceding to his wishes. Whatever she may or may not have done with Mr. B, I would think that she would be tired of this by now.
SF must be the world's greatest lover or the money is too good to give up.

Agree

[Wistful]

Veub, William70-- Your sentiment cannot be shared by most of OHW, else there would be no OHW. What is the value of this carping?

[veub]

It's not carping - just an observation.

[afagehi7]

Was it also powerful for her?

It must have been,
Personally, I can't see why SW and SF are still together. He's been nagging her for 2 years to do something that she clearly doesn't want to do and has even brought in a "therapist" to manipulate her to acceding to his wishes. Whatever she may or may not have done with Mr. B, I would think that she would be tired of this by now.
SF must be the world's greatest lover or the money is too good to give up.

Agree

I disagree, I think she wants to do hotwife but she doesn't know how she wants to do it. She needs the right guy/bull who knows how to work her, sexually and otherwise. She needs attention and for him to fawn over her but in a very particular and specific way.

[william70]

Was it also powerful for her?

It must have been,
Personally, I can't see why SW and SF are still together. He's been nagging her for 2 years to do something that she clearly doesn't want to do and has even brought in a "therapist" to manipulate her to acceding to his wishes. Whatever she may or may not have done with Mr. B, I would think that she would be tired of this by now.
SF must be the world's greatest lover or the money is too good to give up.

Agree

I disagree, I think she wants to do hotwife but she doesn't know how she wants to do it. She needs the right guy/bull who knows how to work her, sexually and otherwise. She needs attention and for him to fawn over her but in a very particular and specific way.

IMHO I think there so many issues involved between these two that I doubt it will ever happen. You maybe right about the bull, but she will put such high standards that no man will ever come close to what she wants.

[johnstevens555]

Some threads on this site could described as crowdsourced manipulation. Members seem get together spending days deciding how what to say or how to react to push her over the line. In my humble opinion, based on what he posts, slenderfish doesn’t seem to attempt to manipulate his wife. He just frequently reminds her of what he wants and gives her space to do whatever the hell she wants to do however the hell she wants to do it.

[FLHD_GottaHottie]

Some threads on this site could described as crowdsourced manipulation.

[Triggershy]

It took me 8 years to get my wife to become a Hotwife and once she tried it she hasn’t looked back.

We would fantasize about it and she would always have the best orgasms. Her body would say one thing and then she finally pulled the trigger and three years later she is fucking every hot stud from 28-38.

Mr. Fish don’t ever give up!! I know you won’t I’m sure your whole life you’ve been told this or that and now look at you rich successful and a life all these guys would die for. I love ever picture and mostly I love your stories every morning I look for your well written and very entertaining life. All the best.

[Jbjhamilton99]

We had sex last night and I was whispering how hot she looked up dancing on the bar in her tight red dress, showing "everything" to all the men in the bar, giving hard-ons to each of them who certainly wanted to fuck her then and there. It was powerful.

THIS is what it’s about!

[anonymister1948]

It took me 8 years to get my wife to become a Hotwife and once she tried it she hasn’t looked back.

We would fantasize about it and she would always have the best orgasms. Her body would say one thing and then she finally pulled the trigger and three years later she is fucking every hot stud from 28-38.

Mr. Fish don’t ever give up!! I know you won’t I’m sure your whole life you’ve been told this or that and now look at you rich successful and a life all these guys would die for. I love ever picture and mostly I love your stories every morning I look for your well written and very entertaining life. All the best.

Except that SW HAS tried it. Subsequent conversations between them have shown she wants these other sexual romps all to herself and was angry at one point for having to divulge much of anything.

I think, given all we've seen over the past two years, she would much rather cheat and not tell SF anything. That was her MO before they were married and the night with Mr. B is just another example. As long as she has the license to cheat, she will.

[slenderfish]

Some threads on this site could described as crowdsourced manipulation. Members seem get together spending days deciding how what to say or how to react to push her over the line. In my humble opinion, based on what he posts, slenderfish doesn’t seem to attempt to manipulate his wife. He just frequently reminds her of what he wants and gives her space to do whatever the hell she wants to do however the hell she wants to do it.

HI guys. I think this one sums it up the best.

There is a lot of rah rah on this site, but it's to be expected. It's very useful in that so many of us have this desire but also have to temper it and try to achieve balance so as to not have it overwhelm the marriage.

My experience is unique, in that SW has this penchant for being flirtatious and (apparently) holds herself to different standards versus what she expects from me and others, but not for herself.

I came from a very religious background, and SW came from a background with essentially no parenting. We both bring our shit to the marriage.

I am able to get along with just about anyone, and have a lot of close friends and many other friends. Men and women. SW keeps a few close friends and these only last a few years; inevitably, she "breaks up" with them for one reason or another, based on something they did or said. Same with her and her employers over the years. I suppose this is the root reason why she does not prefer to have a job. I'm very comfortable in my skin, but unfortunately SW has a certain discomfort that she covers with her efforts at looking perfect.

And people are drawn to her. Men and women alike. So she brings them in, and together we decide whether they will be friends, etc.

Together, we have a nice balance with friends and life. We are not financially rich but do live a very comfortable lifestyle. We do have truly financially rich people in our (my) circle of friends. I make good money but work my ass off for it, took many risks along the way, and it has pretty much been working out. Nowhere near where we need to be to even consider retirement. But still many years from that concern.

Back to the hotwifing subject.

Our experience seems to fall in the middle of what I've read on here over the years. Some here are never able to experience what it is like to be hotwife husband, in that they have hope and desire but their satisfaction must come from the path of others. Some have genuine hotwives and are in the lifestyle. And then there are those in the middle, who are finding their way. SW and I are in that middle. I think the difference in our story is that rather that being stuck before the starting point, we did start and have hit a major pause. And I'm not wanting to push it hard with SW because of my respect for her and our marriage. So I push very subtly, perhaps not even appropriate to use the word "push" in this case. As a result, it seems like there is no action or movement.

And therefore I am relegated to grasping at straws, hoping the smallest things are signs she may jump back into the water, etc.

But at the same time, just because she is not presently bedding another man (or men), she is still a hotwife because (a) she did sleep with two different men in her efforts to give it a try and (b) she knows my desire and plays much closer to the flame these days.

And also, she knowingly pushes my buttons more and more these days. She dresses sexier, feels more free to talk to men, to get their phone numbers, to dance with them in a sexy way. She is very close to Mr. G. In some ways, she is having an affair with him. Perhaps not physical, but she talks to him about so many things that she does not with me. Looks up to him. Takes his advice over mine in many cases. Dresses sexier in workout outfits for him, compared to when she and I are working out together. She is crestfallen when he is out of town or has to cancel their training sessions. She subtly competes with his wife. She has been in a funk the past few days because in their most recent session, he was talking about the birthday party and asked SW about one of the female guests, noting that he was especially taken by her beauty. This guest is the long-time partner of one of my best friends, with whom SW became best friends and it lasted for years, but they had a falling out in 2019. This is the one about whom SW "gave me the birthday gift" in that she forced herself to normalize enough that we are now able to be social with this woman and her man, who is one of my best friends. This is the one with whom SW is the most competitive. So Mr. G's comments about her were like daggers to SW's ears and heart. SW shares all this Mr. G stuff with me.

This is all within the hotwifing wheelhouse. And I embrace it.

So we are in our version of the hotwife lifestyle. This string is our journey.

And your comments are excellent and useful.

[slenderfish]

It took me 8 years to get my wife to become a Hotwife and once she tried it she hasn’t looked back.

We would fantasize about it and she would always have the best orgasms. Her body would say one thing and then she finally pulled the trigger and three years later she is fucking every hot stud from 28-38.

Mr. Fish don’t ever give up!! I know you won’t I’m sure your whole life you’ve been told this or that and now look at you rich successful and a life all these guys would die for. I love ever picture and mostly I love your stories every morning I look for your well written and very entertaining life. All the best.

Except that SW HAS tried it. Subsequent conversations between them have shown she wants these other sexual romps all to herself and was angry at one point for having to divulge much of anything.

I think, given all we've seen over the past two years, she would much rather cheat and not tell SF anything. That was her MO before they were married and the night with Mr. B is just another example. As long as she has the license to cheat, she will.

I think the biggest driver for her remains the aversion to being seen as a slut, by me, by others, and by herself. She releases some of this when she's out and has had a glass (or two) of wine. But then after the fact, say, the next day, she feels some shame and resists acknowledging. Even to the point of denying and/or obfuscating (e.g. "I wasn't dancing grinding on that guy" or "I didn't get his number for me, but for my girlfriend" etc.). Same with the actual hotwife encounters, she enjoyed at the time and was proud of herself, but when mentioning this to even the therapist, she dumbs it all down and tends to makes it look otherwise. Of course, the therapist is smart enough to see past it, to see her style, etc.

She wants to be seen as "the good girl" especially to her girlfriends.

This is consistent with the predilection to cheat. If it's secret, and nobody knows, then it is just hers and she can enjoy being a bad girl without concern of others.

And yet she does not have a license to cheat. She has a license to be a hotwife. She can pursue a guy, but knows I expect to be in the loop, otherwise it is cheating. This was clear as result of the Mr. B situation, and has been a continuing conversation. She knows it. We did come close to breaking up after Mr. B. She realized her error and woke up to the reality that if she is to play, she will need to do so as a hotwife. And so she did.

I will divorce her if she does carry on a full cheating affair. My best 10 years financially are just ahead. I am not willing to share all that with a cheating wife.