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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:22 am

mundyman wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:51 am
“ Thank you. I really stressed the importance of her being safe with him before she unblocked him and resumed communication, and at a certain point, I have to trust that she'll take the necessary steps to be safe. She kept trying to convince me that I had him figured wrong, and that he's actually a nice guy, but as all guys know, there are those guys that will be the sweetest person in the world just to get into a woman's pants. ”

Oh boy, you are in trouble. If Lana’s past history in this lifestyle has proven anything it’s that when in the moment and she is cock drunk and in a sexual fog, most if not all of her guardrails disappear and she is capable of making some horrible, and potentially dangerous decisions.
With the cheating aspect now added to this journey, and no guarantee of sharing all details of her communicating with, and what she does when shes with Adam, and her proven reluctance to share difficult aspects of the things she does with her lovers, I wonder if you’ll ever get all the details of what she’s been doing with Adam.
You’ve pretty much given her the ok to go as deep as she wants with Adam without the requirement of sharing any of it with you.
My guess is you’ll eventually get more information from the messages and videos Adam sends you then you will from her.
The fact that she’s already telling you that you have Adam figured out wrong, and that he’s not as bad as you think would really have me worried. This would indicate to me that she is infatuated with him and whatever spell he’s weaving she is totally under his influence. And as I stated above she has proven to make not really wise decisions at these times.
I would really make sure she keeps you in the loop as to her location at all times.
“Welcome to my web, said the spider to the fly”
Like will you know the address she is staying at with him?
If they go out to dinner and clubs will you know those addresses?
You are trusting this guy with the thing you value most, your wife and your marriage.
As Ronald Reagan said, “trust, but verify.”
Good luck and I hope this whole week and weekend bring you two closer together, in a good way, and pushes both of your buttons.
We have a few things set up for when and if there's a safety issue such as a text of "!!!!!" meaning the game is paused/over, I can then track her instantly with the app we have on our phones and I can send the police there at a moment's notice. We also have several friends in the city and they can be anywhere in the Lower East Village in a matter of minutes.
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:04 am
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Wed May 31, 2023 7:16 pm
Great suggestions by everyone. I always appreciate and am grateful for everyone who offers input and guidance. I haven't sent him anything yet but there's always time to do so before this weekend.

Just as planned, we went about our normal night - dog walks, dinner, TV, and then we decided to walk the beach again as we both like way the moon looks when it reflects off the ocean. After we both showered and got into bed, I made my move to get intimate when she apologized and said it was a long day, and maybe we can get a little amorous after our date night tomorrow. To my surprise, she didn't get up right away and run to the office, but rather we stayed in bed cuddling for about a half hour. She must've assumed that I was sleeping, because she didn't say anything as she got up out of bed.

She's been in the office for about 45 minutes now and I've been stroking myself the entire time. At some point, she moved her toy from her night stand to one of the drawers in her desk, and she's currently on the couch of the office with Adam on FaceTime

Some highlights of what I've seen and heard:

- Him laughing about how I tried to sleep with her again and her denying me
- Him directing her to remove her clothes, slowly
- Her telling him that she wants to see him take off his shirt, then underwear, and then her moaning as he stroked his cock
- I watched her get on all fours on the couch and slowly fuck herself with her toy
- Then he told her to suck on the toy after she came on it
- He then said something that surprised me. As she was blowing the toy, he said "Do it like you did to me in your car." I had no idea that fucked in the car, so this is something I'm going to have to ask her about in time
- She played with her pussy while watching him jerk off, as she told him how she can't wait to spread her legs for him again
- He told her how much of a bad girl she is and how he wants her to tell me that her pussy is his
- They both laughed at how small my dick is and how I can't satisfy her

They're both still going. He hasn't cum yet but she has given herself about 3 orgasms. This is very intense watching her be his slut like this.
Wow!
I hope she appreciates the gift you’ve given her to be able to do this with other people.
She really is a little slut and whore.
Was this part of her personality at all present when you met her and through the beginnings of your relationship and up through the start of her affair with Shawn.
She really seems to have jumped into the deep end of the pool rather quickly and easily.
She was really promiscuous in college and shortly after college, but when we met, she basically did a 180, and toned it down quite a bit, as she really took to being a "good wife" seriously, which in turn really led to her being more conservative sexually. But after Shawn, she really opened up and I feel as if I'm seeing the person she was back in college, which, as she'll freely admit, was a giant slut.
StandingO1984 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:09 am
At one point a day or so ago you were considering putting a listening device in her purse but didn’t think Amazon could deliver it in time. Is there a tech gadget store in your area where you could pick one up today? Your access to her office trysts has been very hot. Imagine what you might hear this weekend!
I really should have thought of that. I could definitely try and find some time today and drive out to a tech store nearby.
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:13 am
I’m sorry to flood this thread with posts right now. This is my last one, for now.
OMG, I sound like someone making promises I probably won’t keep.
Your response to Adam’s texts:
“I can’t believe this is my Lana. She doesn’t like giving me blowjobs and never swallows my cum. She only likes sex in missionary and doesn’t let me go near her butt hole. In fact she wouldn’t speak to me for several days after I brought up Anal sex. She is actually quite vanilla and never wears lingerie, in fact she hates it, doesn’t like kinky sex, and often likes sex with the lights off as she is uncomfortable with people possibly seeing her having sex. So I find it hard to believe that is actually her.”
I like this response a lot as it gives a lot of space for him to get an ego boost. I think I'll use if I choose to respond to him, thanks!
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:14 am
w770 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:54 am
Date night tonight with Lana. I'm considering putting the game on pause just to make it clear that she needs to be safe no matter what she does this weekend.
One hard vote here for the pause tonight. This guy is a total asshole. From his behavior towards you, I would say he is most definitely has narcissistic tendencies. When he finally figures out he was played by both of you, for your pleasure, I predict things will get very ugly, very quickly. Any videos need to be a HARD NO from Lana. We all know that will not stop him from taking them, but hopefully they will continue to limit any face recognition, and his ability to smear both of your personal and professional reputations in the future.

Mr GILF
I understand what you're saying and if I pause the game tonight, I will definitely tell Lana that videos with her face should be an absolute priority for her to consider having him delete.

Update: Basically a non-update. She's been working the entirety of the morning so far, and I think maybe he went to work, as I don't see them on FaceTime at the moment.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by slenderfish » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:30 am

I had experience with the "cheating wife" approach. The takeaway from that is as noted above, it excludes you from any genuine participation and creates a wall that the hotwife can hide behind once the NRE takes over. I only think this approach is useful as a last resort, especially if the wife is otherwise unwilling to proceed under any other scenario.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by w770 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:35 am

slenderfish wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:30 am
I had experience with the "cheating wife" approach. The takeaway from that is as noted above, it excludes you from any genuine participation and creates a wall that the hotwife can hide behind once the NRE takes over. I only think this approach is useful as a last resort, especially if the wife is otherwise unwilling to proceed under any other scenario.
Right. It is the one part of this that makes it so much different from Shawn. With Shawn, Lana would show me his texts as soon as they came in, we would discuss our feelings at every opportunity, and make decisions together. With Adam, I'm really having to trust that Lana will make the best decisions for her and us as a couple. It's really terrifying, but I think I want to at least let this play out until the weekend is over.

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by TheHammer » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:07 am

Careful with the recording device in her purse, it is illegal (felony) to record conversations in New York without consent since you aren’t part of the conversation.

Plus the invasion of privacy, what is this weekend was mainly about her friends and getting her hair done with a stop at Adams mixed in.

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Unread post by w770 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:12 am

TheHammer wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:07 am
Careful with the recording device in her purse, it is illegal (felony) to record conversations in New York without consent since you aren’t part of the conversation.

Plus the invasion of privacy, what is this weekend was mainly about her friends and getting her hair done with a stop at Adams mixed in.
Wow, okay thanks for looking out. I'm going to be monitoring Lana's friend social media as she tends to post regularly about everything she does, so I'll have some insight as to how their day/evening is going.

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Unread post by mundyman » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:29 am

Talk about ‘Hot Girl Summer’!!!!

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Unread post by eventfire » Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:38 am

This is just my 2 cents, but the lying really seems bothersome. She's getting comfortable with leaving out key details and keeping you as uninformed as possible. Is she actually thinking that she is getting away with something without you knowing? Doesn't that sound dishonest to you? Unchecked, Lana is going to leave you in the dust if she sees no boundaries. I mean the genie is out of the bottle at this point, but I would reiterate or even insist that this is an activity for you both, not a solo journey. This behavior is already affecting her professional productivity (I'd be pissed if I was paying someone to have phone sex and masturbate during the day) You have far more patience than I ever would, that's for sure. Hopefully this guy has no ill intentions other than fucking Lana. Just watch your 6.

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Unread post by edgedndenied » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:01 am

I would predict you will recieve videos this weekend of Lana and Adam fucking and sucking. He will further rub your knose in the affair. I do not believe Lana will ask Adam to delete prior videos when she is facetimeng and sexting him. He has those as new videos. Also can Lana deny him taping her if he puts pressure on her to tape. Also she seems addicted to being videotaped and being an exhibitionist. I think you need to tell her about Adams taunting messages to you ASAP to see her reaction. That may tell you a lot. You gave her permission to cheat as much as she wants withou telling you for months. You need to both be on the same page or things could go south fast.

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Unread post by w770 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:20 am

eventfire wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:38 am
This is just my 2 cents, but the lying really seems bothersome. She's getting comfortable with leaving out key details and keeping you as uninformed as possible. Is she actually thinking that she is getting away with something without you knowing? Doesn't that sound dishonest to you? Unchecked, Lana is going to leave you in the dust if she sees no boundaries. I mean the genie is out of the bottle at this point, but I would reiterate or even insist that this is an activity for you both, not a solo journey. This behavior is already affecting her professional productivity (I'd be pissed if I was paying someone to have phone sex and masturbate during the day) You have far more patience than I ever would, that's for sure. Hopefully this guy has no ill intentions other than fucking Lana. Just watch your 6.
I wouldn't say that she feels comfortable with the lying as she was really torn up and in tears when the details came to light with Adam taking her pussy bare. I'm hoping to get some insight tonight when I plan to put things on pause over dinner and talk things over.
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:01 am
I would predict you will recieve videos this weekend of Lana and Adam fucking and sucking. He will further rub your knose in the affair. I do not believe Lana will ask Adam to delete prior videos when she is facetimeng and sexting him. He has those as new videos. Also can Lana deny him taping her if he puts pressure on her to tape. Also she seems addicted to being videotaped and being an exhibitionist. I think you need to tell her about Adams taunting messages to you ASAP to see her reaction. That may tell you a lot. You gave her permission to cheat as much as she wants withou telling you for months. You need to both be on the same page or things could go south fast.
I'm not sure about that, as he revealing of what they were up to this weekend would likely lead to a shutting down of future meetups. But again, I'll have to see where we stand tonight over dinner and maybe upon reading the conversation between them, I can get a better idea of where his mind is.

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Unread post by edgedndenied » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:27 am

The big question is does Lana know and/or approve of his messaging and taunting you. The other thought is are Lana and Adam are playing rolls to maximize there pleasure and your cuckoldness

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Unread post by Mattmattiass » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:36 am

w770 wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:20 am
eventfire wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:38 am
This is just my 2 cents, but the lying really seems bothersome. She's getting comfortable with leaving out key details and keeping you as uninformed as possible. Is she actually thinking that she is getting away with something without you knowing? Doesn't that sound dishonest to you? Unchecked, Lana is going to leave you in the dust if she sees no boundaries. I mean the genie is out of the bottle at this point, but I would reiterate or even insist that this is an activity for you both, not a solo journey. This behavior is already affecting her professional productivity (I'd be pissed if I was paying someone to have phone sex and masturbate during the day) You have far more patience than I ever would, that's for sure. Hopefully this guy has no ill intentions other than fucking Lana. Just watch your 6.
I wouldn't say that she feels comfortable with the lying as she was really torn up and in tears when the details came to light with Adam taking her pussy bare. I'm hoping to get some insight tonight when I plan to put things on pause over dinner and talk things over.
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Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:01 am
I would predict you will recieve videos this weekend of Lana and Adam fucking and sucking. He will further rub your knose in the affair. I do not believe Lana will ask Adam to delete prior videos when she is facetimeng and sexting him. He has those as new videos. Also can Lana deny him taping her if he puts pressure on her to tape. Also she seems addicted to being videotaped and being an exhibitionist. I think you need to tell her about Adams taunting messages to you ASAP to see her reaction. That may tell you a lot. You gave her permission to cheat as much as she wants withou telling you for months. You need to both be on the same page or things could go south fast.
I'm not sure about that, as he revealing of what they were up to this weekend would likely lead to a shutting down of future meetups. But again, I'll have to see where we stand tonight over dinner and maybe upon reading the conversation between them, I can get a better idea of where his mind is.
I think taking a pause is a good idea if only for a few hours. Just to see where things are. She’s done and planned so much already this week that it makes sense. Get some pussy while you’re at it.

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Unread post by edgedndenied » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:43 am

Taking a pause may be wise however Lana has not done anything you have not told her she can do. You are the one who said she can secretly cheat and not tell you. You do not want to scare her into giving up the lifestyle. But for safety the question comes down to what are Adams motives especially taunting you

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Unread post by jasmineb87 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 8:47 am

I’d argue that a ‘pause’ as you put it goes away from the cheating wife narrative. You just need to check she is safe, and that ‘if’ she were to see Adam again she’s going to ask him to delete videos and not make any more.

Honestly I think it’s beneficial that you stay away from breaking character now, but I also think your “months away from the truth” idea is less than ideal. I’d probably go with no longer than a week.

Ideally, a big reconnection on Monday

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Unread post by proudhusb217 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:06 am

I also think you should show her Adam's recent messages. His tone is kind of ugly, and she needs to be able to decide for herself if it's off-putting. You wouldn't have to pause the game to show her.

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Unread post by edgedndenied » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:25 am

I agree with proudhusb217 you can use the Adam messages as a way broach what is happening and see what she says. Then you can watch her go to her office and facetime Adam and see what she says to him. May give you very good insight into there relationship. You may not want to ruin this weekend. This weekend playing out and her coming home and reconnecting or NOT reconnectiong with you will speak volumes about where her head is at.

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Unread post by tojanman » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:30 am

It might "break the narrative" to have a pause, but if either W or Lana are feeling uncomfortable or need a moment of reaffirmation, then a pause is exactly what they should do. At the end of the day, this is just play and marriage trumps play every time.

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Unread post by TheHammer » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:38 am

You could just show her the message and ask how you should respond and gauge her reaction. If he is truly in the dark and thinking she is cheating without your knowledge and just being an ass, then her reaction will show..and probably shut things down with him.

If she says something like, don’t worry, I’ll handle or tells you how you should respond, then it’s still game on and you don’t need a full pause of the game tonight.

I still believe this all is part of the game with her telling him that you wanted to be cucked and then him acting like a bull.

Food for thought, what if Lana wants you to be a cuck and Adam to be the bull with everything out in the open between the three of you, how would you react?

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Unread post by parmaham55 » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:41 am

Wow, this thread really brings out the emotions and angst.
Hopefully to catch you before your date night...
I concur with many opinions that a discussion with Lana before the weekend is essential. You don't know for sure that she knows about Adam's messages to you this week. She may be surprised, even horrified rather than excited.
In a way, if she knows about them, then that's good, as you are involved in the game by the two of them = a good cuckold game for you and Lana.
But, it seems that she is completely ignoring your angst and feelings this week. That worries me. She has left you behind completely, and is now living in the world of Adam, without involving you in any way in the anticipation and teasing of the weekend. This doesn't feel like a 'cheating game', but rather simply like 'cheating' on you without any thought of you at all. Someone previously in the thread described this as selfish, and it does look a bit like that.
With Shawn, you were totally involved in the buildup and within minutes or hours afterwards, the feel of penetrating her pussy hot with his cum for example. This time is different, and she has lied along the way - the lack of condoms, the sex in the car - what else?
Lana is not relying on your support at all. She's flying solo. That's not really fair.
Just my thoughts.

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Unread post by BoBatty » Thu Jun 01, 2023 9:55 am

I have read this entire thread and I respect W and his thought process. When Lana broke it off with Adam, he threatened to publicly expose you and Lana. From what W said, all of the videos did not show Lana's face. However, now W has proof Lana is using FaceTime to have sex with Adam.

When / if this goes bad, don't you think Adam may revert to being a blackmailing Ass and could he not have Audio and Video with Lana's face exposed?

Also, waiting more than Monday to have her "fill you in" will undoubtedly cause her to forget or change things When you were with Shawn it was a team effort. You both planned, she met him with or without you, you could reclaim her

I truly want this weekend to happen but you need to check in with Lana to make sure this is a "game" and not something more.

I think telling her something, about the texts from Adam or something else and then seeing how she reacts with you and later with Adam would be her public and private response and you can go from there.

Again, thank you for allowing us to vicariously live a portion of your life. We are on your side, if only to make sure this continues and we can experience it with you but we all want you and Lana to continue more than any sexy detail if it messes up your relationship.

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Unread post by shawnm » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:03 am

I agree with all above points. At any cost, do not tell her about your listening to them via the old mobile in her office. Post the date night, you may learn quite a lot what is the real picture. Agreed that cheating pass is given to her, but is shutting you off pass also given to her? On the side, assuming they meet this weekend, there is a high possibility of anal between them and if you pause it now, that may not happen yet. I think the more she gets used to playing and moving ahead solo, your relevance in this team will reduce and that will affect your relationship.

As to your point about her crying and feeling bad and all, have always noticed that when she is caught lying, that's her weapon. While she was blatantly doing it, it didn't affect her in the least.

I am just worried that your awesome team should not get affected at all and your relationship should grow stronger. You need to find out whether she is truly disrespecting you as a cuck or its a role.

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Unread post by shawnm » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:35 am

BTW after she came back from office at night after her anal play with adam, did you fake being asleep and she simply went to sleep or was there any interactions between you.

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Unread post by Mattmattiass » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:45 am

shawnm wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:35 am
BTW after she came back from office at night after her anal play with adam, did you fake being asleep and she simply went to sleep or was there any interactions between you.
Good question. Guessing it was just goodnight stuff, but I would love to know.
I feel bad asking, you do provide a lot already.

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Unread post by shawnm » Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:54 am

Mattmattiass wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:45 am
shawnm wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:35 am
BTW after she came back from office at night after her anal play with adam, did you fake being asleep and she simply went to sleep or was there any interactions between you.
Good question. Guessing it was just goodnight stuff, but I would love to know.
I feel bad asking, you do provide a lot already.
Don't feel bad. W LOVES sharing both his wife and details ;)

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Unread post by TheHammer » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:13 am

shawnm wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:54 am
Don't feel bad. W LOVES sharing both his wife and details ;)
The amount of details and frequency W is sharing with us is absolutely amazing. Tip of the hat to you W! :up: :up:

Take note of the color of her roots and the ends of her hair tonight so you can see if she even got her hair cut and/or colored when she returns. Or just take a pic for reference.

Seems likely Adams cock will be deep in her ass in the next 72 hours!

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Re: It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

Unread post by MonaLisaOverdrive » Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:34 am

edgedndenied wrote:
Thu Jun 01, 2023 5:21 am
Why not tell Lana about the messages and videos adam has sent you. If she was a cheating wife and the affair partner was sending this to the husband the husband would deffinitly confront his wife to find out what is going on and is the affair still ongoing. She may be waiting for you to tell her. If she is not aware of his contact with you she may get a different vibe about Adam. Ultimitly what is Adams end game
I have a different view on this. Adam sent the videos after he was spurned by Lana, then after Adam and Lana reconnected the messages stopped for a couple of days, then they started again. I suspect that Lana and Adam decided together to keep sending them as it would look strange if they suddenly stopped, plus the content "I miss your wifes pussy." seem to indicate that Adam is still the spurned lover.

The messages and videos are coming so that w770 doesn't suspect a sudden change in pattern of behaviour from Adam and lead him to wonder why, they are to lul him into believing Lana is still reconciling her marriage. I believe the cheeky slut Lana is behind them and she is using Adam as her puppet in this game, if I am right then she is a very clever girl and is playing this game perfectly.

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