It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[snoogaloo82]

Hi, W and happy thanksgiving.

In light of Lana’s admission of being in love with Shawn, would it be okay to revisit the time she spent in California with him and sort of fill in some blanks?

She was there Friday thru Tuesday if I recall. When, what day, did she first tell him/reveal to him she loved him? Was it while making love? In between sessions? Did she admit this on her own or did he have to draw it out of her?

Did she say it first? I know it’s hard to ask questions about what they talked about in bed in between sessions, but as you well know, those times can often be the most revealing and honest moments. If you asked her, would Lana dare to tell you some of what was shared between them? Knowing that if she told you the depth and details of those intimate conversations could be hard to hear, would you nonetheless ask her to share some of that with you?

When he visits in a few weeks, do you believe she will openly and willingly tell him she loves him in front of you, loud enough for you to easily hear her?

One last question…when you watch them make love together again for hours on end, and you can see clearly and plainly the level of closeness and love they have for each other, will you be able to take it? Would you leave the room if it became too much to deal with in that moment? If you did and Lana didn’t come after you to check on you, but instead continued to make love with Shawn, would you be okay with that?

I know that’s a lot to absorb. Thanks, W.

It's a ton to absorb! I hope everything works out good

[readyy2009]

I have read this form and for some reason I feel sad for W...I know you write about this great bond with Lana but for some reason I just could not see it...I know it's just me and you obviously know her and your marriage better but for some reason I am feeling kind of emotional...I understand the kink but is it worth the lack of respect? This could also be because you are such a descriptive writer but seriously I feel so bad for you

[w770]

...

Yeah, it does sound like something fun to commemorate, but it's a conversation that we likely won't have until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest seeing as we're around her family all day today and will be staying the night at her parents' place.

Update: So as I mentioned above, we had date night last night and Lana confessed that she does in fact love Shawn and that they made love multiple times in California. I had always assumed that she loved the way Shawn and Adam pounded her pussy into submission, and the way she wrapped her legs around their waists as they made her cum was her body's reaction to the sheer primal lust of it all. However, when it's me and her, the way she wraps her legs around me is more of a desire to connect on a much deeper level. It sounds cheesy but that's what it is. And so when I saw her grab Shawn's ass in California and pull him into her with her legs while he slowly thrusted into her, it really did appear that she was in love with him. And then knowing that they spent the entire weekend doing that, on top of him pounding her pussy mercilessly, it was a lot to take in, but I accept it. And on top of all of that, he knows that she's pregnant so I'm assuming that he will be gentle with her for the time that he's here next month. Lana and I talked at length about this last night and if either of us ever feels that there is a legitimate threat to the marriage, we let the other person know and we'll stop.

Since I'm trying to hold off from cumming until Shawn has had Lana, but him and I are on an almost nightly routine of getting on camera together at night, it put us in a weird spot last night. I can't really explain or fully understand my relationship with him, but we do have a sort of friendship, but with an odd sexual nature between us. He fucked that girl that he's casually seeing, but after he got home, we got on camera, and we both got naked together. Lightly stroking our cocks together with the understanding that we didn't want it to go too far as I'm trying to hold off, he teased me a bit. "You know how much your wife begged to taste my cock after I came in her? It was like she was starving for a real man..."

After we had wrapped up our call, I motioned to Lana, who was mostly asleep, to make love knowing that I would be denied, but in the denial itself was part of the game that we both understood. I started caressing her legs and fondling her breasts outside of her nighty and kissing her neck, positioning my erection onto her ass so she could feel how much I wanted it, when she reached back, stroked me for about a minute and told me, "Not until after Shawn makes love to me..."

You two are definitely a unique and special couple. I hope things go both your guys' way! You two feel like a true couple!

Thanks! We've always been told that something stood out about us as a couple. The people that ran the venue where we got married said that they've never seen a couple more in love before. Our friends have all said that we are clearly soulmates and what we have is what they want one day. The most cynical of our friends have told us that they never believed in love before seeing how we were together. There's always been something about us that's resonated with people.

Hi, W and happy thanksgiving.

In light of Lana’s admission of being in love with Shawn, would it be okay to revisit the time she spent in California with him and sort of fill in some blanks?

She was there Friday thru Tuesday if I recall. When, what day, did she first tell him/reveal to him she loved him? Was it while making love? In between sessions? Did she admit this on her own or did he have to draw it out of her?

Did she say it first? I know it’s hard to ask questions about what they talked about in bed in between sessions, but as you well know, those times can often be the most revealing and honest moments. If you asked her, would Lana dare to tell you some of what was shared between them? Knowing that if she told you the depth and details of those intimate conversations could be hard to hear, would you nonetheless ask her to share some of that with you?

When he visits in a few weeks, do you believe she will openly and willingly tell him she loves him in front of you, loud enough for you to easily hear her?

One last question…when you watch them make love together again for hours on end, and you can see clearly and plainly the level of closeness and love they have for each other, will you be able to take it? Would you leave the room if it became too much to deal with in that moment? If you did and Lana didn’t come after you to check on you, but instead continued to make love with Shawn, would you be okay with that?

I know that’s a lot to absorb. Thanks, W.

Would I be okay with Lana making another trip to California? This is purely hypothetical as at this point in her pregnancy, I don't foresee Lana making any trips, especially that long of a trip any time soon. But speaking hypothetically - I'm not entirely sure honestly. It's still fairly new for me in Lana's revelation that she's in love with Shawn and that they made love several times not too long ago, so it's hard for me to say what I'd be okay with. Sorry for the non answer.

I asked her a lot of the questions you asked last night at date night. She told him that she loved him after they came together. He was inside of her still and in catching their breath, he said "Lana... I'm in love with you." "I love you too, Shawn." By the time they made love in front of me, they had already been making love for 2 full days beforehand.

In terms of how it will be when he's here and they're making love in front of me - I really don't know if I'll be able to handle it. But if it gets to a point where it's too much for me, I'll leave the room, and if it's too much after that point, Lana and I will talk about it and according to our plans, we'll break it off. But I honestly see it as an evolution of our relationship, and I really can accept that they have something special between them, just as Shawn and I have a unique relationship. It's hard to categorize and fully explain the dynamics but Lana feels that she can be in love with Shawn while also being in love with me, but always keeping me as the priority.

Hi, W and happy thanksgiving.

In light of Lana’s admission of being in love with Shawn, would it be okay to revisit the time she spent in California with him and sort of fill in some blanks?

She was there Friday thru Tuesday if I recall. When, what day, did she first tell him/reveal to him she loved him? Was it while making love? In between sessions? Did she admit this on her own or did he have to draw it out of her?

Did she say it first? I know it’s hard to ask questions about what they talked about in bed in between sessions, but as you well know, those times can often be the most revealing and honest moments. If you asked her, would Lana dare to tell you some of what was shared between them? Knowing that if she told you the depth and details of those intimate conversations could be hard to hear, would you nonetheless ask her to share some of that with you?

When he visits in a few weeks, do you believe she will openly and willingly tell him she loves him in front of you, loud enough for you to easily hear her?

One last question…when you watch them make love together again for hours on end, and you can see clearly and plainly the level of closeness and love they have for each other, will you be able to take it? Would you leave the room if it became too much to deal with in that moment? If you did and Lana didn’t come after you to check on you, but instead continued to make love with Shawn, would you be okay with that?

I know that’s a lot to absorb. Thanks, W.

It's a ton to absorb! I hope everything works out good

Thanks! I have a lot of confidence that we'll be fine ultimately.

I have read this form and for some reason I feel sad for W...I know you write about this great bond with Lana but for some reason I just could not see it...I know it's just me and you obviously know her and your marriage better but for some reason I am feeling kind of emotional...I understand the kink but is it worth the lack of respect? This could also be because you are such a descriptive writer but seriously I feel so bad for you

I never take anything said here offensively and I'm glad you felt the freedom to have the candor to say what you did in your post. But I have to ask why you feel sorry for me. I still have the love of my life and she's still carrying my baby. I just feel lucky that she feels secure enough to be as honest as she has been in admitting her love for Shawn.

Update: we're at Lana's parents' place but we found some time to sneak off and have some fun. We video called Shawn, and had him watch. And what has become a part of our foreplay, she denied me her making love to her, and instead I gave her oral. I made her cum twice while she stared right into the camera for Shawn while he watched.

[3532734dreamer]

Hi w770.

Happy Thanksgiving. As always, thank you for you updates and answering so many questions. The second
to latest one (the one before the thanksgiving fun) was quite the update!

However, I have to admit that I'm not surprised. I made a post on the 22nd of September where I raised some of these points already. And I think the love cat has been out of the bag since December/January. The question is is it just a kitten or is it a tiger (more terms of intensity of desire, lust, sex and not the same as the long-term deep love you have for each other)?

Does Shawn know how Lana feels? Has she said it to him (I love you) or just said it back to him (I love you, too). Has she said it just once, a few time, or many times? Has she said it during love-making? While cuddling with him? Has she said it outside of sex? Did she say it at the airport when she left to fly home?

Even more importantly, have they actually discussed their feelings for each other? Is this perhaps where Shawn's idea of moving back so he and Lana could have a boyfriend - girlfriend relation?

I think it's great that you are on the same page (finally) with Lana, but you are at the top of that page now. She hasn't been lying, but she has a history of not coming out with the whole truth right away. And I have a sneaking feeling that she is further down that page than you. Most probably Shawn is as well. So you and Lana need to get onto the same paragraph, if not the same sentence.

I am not asking all these questions to pry. I will freely admit that I love the details. But you are in the situation and I am looking in from outside, through you. You have insight and knowledge that I don't have. But we (your fellow forum comrades) might have a better perspective on the situation, or at least have some helpful observations. Wether what I write has some accuracy or is complete BS, this is at least my goal.

So why is it important? Shawn has been talking about making love to Lana. Lana is dening you until after she has made love to Shawn. This will in all likelihood happen, in front of you, with out you there, probably both. So are you ready for that?

I think it's great the you can accept Lana's feelings. As I wrote in my first post on this forum, your story open my eyes to the fact that my SO wouldn't just have feelings for a lover/boyfriend but that I could be ok with it (she's the type that develops feelings for those she sleeps with, won't sleep with someone she doesn't like, and isn't interested in a one time thing).

But when they are together again, making love, and the cat (to continue the metaphor) makes an appearance again, will you be ready for that? How will you feel if you start catching glimpses of it if it's not what you expected? Or if it appears suddenly right in front of you? Will you be expecting the tiger if it's a tiger?

And more importantly, what will they be saying to each other when you aren't around? Will they be saying they love each other behind your back? Because I don't think that's fair to you and I don't what you to be hurt (again) by it. The cat is out of the back. You accept that. Everyone involved should know that everyone knows. But you should discuss with Lana how much/often the cat can be around. Are you ok with them saying it in front of you while they make love? In front of you in a non-sexual situation? While they are together without you? Because Lana can get carried away and the situation and quickly push up against that boundary of a legitimate threat to your marriage. Maybe leaving you hurt again, Lana feeling bad and the hole situation going from hot and arousaling to awkward or just plain sucking for everyone. Please, be on the same sentence in the same paragraph as Lana, and not just on the same page.

Hope you all have had a nice thanksgiving with family (sounds like you are having fun). I'm sure they are all excited that you and Lana will be parents. And of course, wish you all all the best.

[jamesbuldge123]

any photos of your wife from Shawn to Adam?

[parmaham55]

3532734dreamer's last submission is right on the money, and well considered. My own belief is that it is perfectly possible to love more than one person very deeply, and Lana is very capable of that. It doesn’t need to be a competition, it is just different. Love is infinite. When you have a child, you love the child. If you have a second child, love doubles not halves.

The point is to have totally open detailed communication in full sync, as 35532734dreamer says so well.

If anyone on this forum can achieve that, from all that’s been said in the last year of this, then Lana and W can, and with Shawn too. It takes all three to be in sync and that was budding before he went to Cali, and can fully develop now.

And thanks, W, for allowing us to comment freely and openly and being so accepting. You are the one living this. You, Lana and Shawn. You are achieving amazing steps. Happy Thanksgiving.

[snoogaloo82]

...

Update: we're at Lana's parents' place but we found some time to sneak off and have some fun. We video called Shawn, and had him watch. And what has become a part of our foreplay, she denied me her making love to her, and instead I gave her oral. I made her cum twice while she stared right into the camera for Shawn while he watched.

What a sight that must have been! You two are amazing!!

[w770]

Hi w770.

Happy Thanksgiving. As always, thank you for you updates and answering so many questions. The second
to latest one (the one before the thanksgiving fun) was quite the update!

However, I have to admit that I'm not surprised. I made a post on the 22nd of September where I raised some of these points already. And I think the love cat has been out of the bag since December/January. The question is is it just a kitten or is it a tiger (more terms of intensity of desire, lust, sex and not the same as the long-term deep love you have for each other)?

Does Shawn know how Lana feels? Has she said it to him (I love you) or just said it back to him (I love you, too). Has she said it just once, a few time, or many times? Has she said it during love-making? While cuddling with him? Has she said it outside of sex? Did she say it at the airport when she left to fly home?

Even more importantly, have they actually discussed their feelings for each other? Is this perhaps where Shawn's idea of moving back so he and Lana could have a boyfriend - girlfriend relation?

I think it's great that you are on the same page (finally) with Lana, but you are at the top of that page now. She hasn't been lying, but she has a history of not coming out with the whole truth right away. And I have a sneaking feeling that she is further down that page than you. Most probably Shawn is as well. So you and Lana need to get onto the same paragraph, if not the same sentence.

I am not asking all these questions to pry. I will freely admit that I love the details. But you are in the situation and I am looking in from outside, through you. You have insight and knowledge that I don't have. But we (your fellow forum comrades) might have a better perspective on the situation, or at least have some helpful observations. Wether what I write has some accuracy or is complete BS, this is at least my goal.

So why is it important? Shawn has been talking about making love to Lana. Lana is dening you until after she has made love to Shawn. This will in all likelihood happen, in front of you, with out you there, probably both. So are you ready for that?

I think it's great the you can accept Lana's feelings. As I wrote in my first post on this forum, your story open my eyes to the fact that my SO wouldn't just have feelings for a lover/boyfriend but that I could be ok with it (she's the type that develops feelings for those she sleeps with, won't sleep with someone she doesn't like, and isn't interested in a one time thing).

But when they are together again, making love, and the cat (to continue the metaphor) makes an appearance again, will you be ready for that? How will you feel if you start catching glimpses of it if it's not what you expected? Or if it appears suddenly right in front of you? Will you be expecting the tiger if it's a tiger?

And more importantly, what will they be saying to each other when you aren't around? Will they be saying they love each other behind your back? Because I don't think that's fair to you and I don't what you to be hurt (again) by it. The cat is out of the back. You accept that. Everyone involved should know that everyone knows. But you should discuss with Lana how much/often the cat can be around. Are you ok with them saying it in front of you while they make love? In front of you in a non-sexual situation? While they are together without you? Because Lana can get carried away and the situation and quickly push up against that boundary of a legitimate threat to your marriage. Maybe leaving you hurt again, Lana feeling bad and the hole situation going from hot and arousaling to awkward or just plain sucking for everyone. Please, be on the same sentence in the same paragraph as Lana, and not just on the same page.

Hope you all have had a nice thanksgiving with family (sounds like you are having fun). I'm sure they are all excited that you and Lana will be parents. And of course, wish you all all the best.

Thank you for the really well thought out and detailed post. I'll try and give it the respect it deserves:

As far as your question about in what circumstances they've told each other they love each other, Lana told me that it's only been in the context of during and right after they've made love, and it's always him saying it first to her. They've also had talks about their feelings while cuddling in bed where he's asked about it turning into something more, how I factor into it, and how it's his first time being in love. She's made it very clear to him that I'm the love of her life and her soulmate, and no matter how she feels for him, nothing will ever change that fact, so if their relationship and love evolves, it will without a doubt have to have me as a part of it. She told me that he wasn't upset by this and in fact, very understanding. He's changed greatly in a year and his emotional development is really impressive.

After reading your concerns, I checked Lana's phone (it's fine, we have an open phone policy between us) and looked at the chat between her and Shawn and I have no doubts that she's being completely honest and open with me about what she claims her relationship is like with Shawn.

In regards to the question about how I'll feel if and when they make love and tell each other their feelings in front of me - as of this moment, I feel like I will be able to handle it, but that could be me being naive as I have been so many times in the last year. I mentioned this to Lana and that it's the biggest thing I'm trying to handle right now. It was one thing to watch her on all fours screaming out how much better he fucks than me. It's entirely something else seeing him slowly and passionately thrust in and out of her while they stare into each other's eyes, her hands clasped together behind his neck and her legs pulling him tightly. She's been incredibly sensitive to my feelings and we've agreed that outside of saying it to him during and right after making love, she will not tell him that she loves him in any other context without clearing it with me first. And I still have full stop powers and can use it whenever I see fit.

3532734dreamer's last submission is right on the money, and well considered. My own belief is that it is perfectly possible to love more than one person very deeply, and Lana is very capable of that. It doesn’t need to be a competition, it is just different. Love is infinite. When you have a child, you love the child. If you have a second child, love doubles not halves.

The point is to have totally open detailed communication in full sync, as 35532734dreamer says so well.

If anyone on this forum can achieve that, from all that’s been said in the last year of this, then Lana and W can, and with Shawn too. It takes all three to be in sync and that was budding before he went to Cali, and can fully develop now.

And thanks, W, for allowing us to comment freely and openly and being so accepting. You are the one living this. You, Lana and Shawn. You are achieving amazing steps. Happy Thanksgiving.

35532734dreamer and you, along with a lot of other posters have been very accurate in your warnings and telling me to always be vigilant in looking for red flags and to constantly check my blind spots. I understand that Lana has had some instances of not revealing full truths until later, but I've never found any secret communication between her and other guys, nothing where she's outright lied to me in a way that I've considered to be important (taking Adam's bare cock probably being the biggest, pun intended, and even that wasn't something that I found to be something we couldn't easily get past).

Ultimately, I feel like she really understands this kink now, whereas before we ever met Shawn, she would just always tell me it was just a weird little fetish that I was into whenever I asked her to at least role play scenarios where I was a different guy and she was cheating on me.

I really do feel more confident than worried about our future exploration into this lifestyle and I'm very grateful to have people constantly checking my blind spots.

any photos of your wife from Shawn to Adam?

No, no photos or any communication with Adam. Shawn does know about Adam and doesn't seem bothered by him or the fact that he took her ass.

...

Update: we're at Lana's parents' place but we found some time to sneak off and have some fun. We video called Shawn, and had him watch. And what has become a part of our foreplay, she denied me her making love to her, and instead I gave her oral. I made her cum twice while she stared right into the camera for Shawn while he watched.

What a sight that must have been! You two are amazing!!

Yeah he was having Thanksgiving dinner with some friend's family's house at the time so he had to sneak off to the bathroom to watch, .

Update: I tend to wake up earlier than everyone, usually for the gym, but especially whenever we stay with her parents as my back usually hates sleeping on the bed they have in their spare bedroom. So I'm fully awake now with a raging hard on, wanting really badly to either wake Lana up and make love or at least jerk off, neither of which will be happening. It just dawned on me that although Shawn comes here in 3 weeks, that I might be denied Lana's pussy until after he leaves, which means I might not be able to cum for 6 weeks. I really don't know if that's possible...

[lovethis]

You know your wife and she knows you. Of course a hotwife must have feelings for her boyfriend but by the sounds of it your communication and trust for each other is spot on. You are a cuckold and Shawn knows how to push your buttons. He knows his place and accepts it. If he was madly in love with Lana then nothing would have stopped him from moving to your location as he contemplated. Sure they have feelings of love for each other. Yes you will feel some insecurities but can you ever stop the hunger you crave. And now can Lana ever stop as well. You and Shawn have a bond. You have spoken to him about certain limits before Lana went to Cali. Has he respected those concerns you raised.

[snoogaloo82]

Yeah he was having Thanksgiving dinner with some friend's family's house at the time so he had to sneak off to the bathroom to watch, .

Update: I tend to wake up earlier than everyone, usually for the gym, but especially whenever we stay with her parents as my back usually hates sleeping on the bed they have in their spare bedroom. So I'm fully awake now with a raging hard on, wanting really badly to either wake Lana up and make love or at least jerk off, neither of which will be happening. It just dawned on me that although Shawn comes here in 3 weeks, that I might be denied Lana's pussy until after he leaves, which means I might not be able to cum for 6 weeks. I really don't know if that's possible...

hang in there. with will power you will be able to do without for a long time!
i know because it's been over 6 weeks since i last masturbated lol

[w770]

You know your wife and she knows you. Of course a hotwife must have feelings for her boyfriend but by the sounds of it your communication and trust for each other is spot on. You are a cuckold and Shawn knows how to push your buttons. He knows his place and accepts it. If he was madly in love with Lana then nothing would have stopped him from moving to your location as he contemplated. Sure they have feelings of love for each other. Yes you will feel some insecurities but can you ever stop the hunger you crave. And now can Lana ever stop as well. You and Shawn have a bond. You have spoken to him about certain limits before Lana went to Cali. Has he respected those concerns you raised.

Thank you. Your post made me feel more at ease. I think it's normal for a woman especially to develop feelings with someone she sleeps with. And Lana definitely has something about her that gets guys to fall for her rather quickly. I'm pretty glad that if she had to fall in love with anyone in the past year, it's Shawn and not Adam.

Update: Remember Cara? Lana's friend that wanted to explore the lifestyle but her husband was against it? Well they're officially separated. Not yet divorced but it's pretty clear that's where things are headed. Lana and I are tossing around the idea of having her as a part of the fun when Shawn comes. She knows of all of the updates as her and Lana speak every day, so we're trying to feel out the hypothetical, and whether there are consequences that we're failing to anticipate.

[snoogaloo82]

You know your wife and she knows you. Of course a hotwife must have feelings for her boyfriend but by the sounds of it your communication and trust for each other is spot on. You are a cuckold and Shawn knows how to push your buttons. He knows his place and accepts it. If he was madly in love with Lana then nothing would have stopped him from moving to your location as he contemplated. Sure they have feelings of love for each other. Yes you will feel some insecurities but can you ever stop the hunger you crave. And now can Lana ever stop as well. You and Shawn have a bond. You have spoken to him about certain limits before Lana went to Cali. Has he respected those concerns you raised.

Thank you. Your post made me feel more at ease. I think it's normal for a woman especially to develop feelings with someone she sleeps with. And Lana definitely has something about her that gets guys to fall for her rather quickly. I'm pretty glad that if she had to fall in love with anyone in the past year, it's Shawn and not Adam.

Update: Remember Cara? Lana's friend that wanted to explore the lifestyle but her husband was against it? Well they're officially separated. Not yet divorced but it's pretty clear that's where things are headed. Lana and I are tossing around the idea of having her as a part of the fun when Shawn comes. She knows of all of the updates as her and Lana speak every day, so we're trying to feel out the hypothetical, and whether there are consequences that we're failing to anticipate.

I can't wait to read what happens! Definitely keep us updated!! lol

[KevDi69]

Thanks for all the updates. Looks like a fun 6 weeks ahead!
The discussions about them saying ‘I love you’ is interesting. I’m sure they do. There’s a difference between loving someone and being ‘in love’ with someone. It sounds like he may be in love but she ‘loves’ him and is ‘in love’ with you.

[snoogaloo82]

Thanks for all the updates. Looks like a fun 6 weeks ahead!
The discussions about them saying ‘I love you’ is interesting. I’m sure they do. There’s a difference between loving someone and being ‘in love’ with someone. It sounds like he may be in love but she ‘loves’ him and is ‘in love’ with you.

that's probably true

[w770]

Thanks for all the updates. Looks like a fun 6 weeks ahead!
The discussions about them saying ‘I love you’ is interesting. I’m sure they do. There’s a difference between loving someone and being ‘in love’ with someone. It sounds like he may be in love but she ‘loves’ him and is ‘in love’ with you.

A part of me thinks you're right. Because if she was "in love" with Shawn, I feel like she would spend more time talking with him, message him cutesy things, wanting to know all about him, basically the things you do when you're in love.

The only thing that gives me pause and makes me think that she's very much "in love" is how her body moved and reacted to him while they had me watch as they made love. They were face to face the entire time, his chest up against hers, staring into each other's eyes when they weren't kissing, the way she arched her back when they came together, how tightly she pulled him in with her legs, how she grabbed his ass with her hands as he was cumming, it all signaled to me that she was very much in love. After he had regained his strength and was about to pull out of her and roll over, she stopped him and told him to stay inside of her and spent the next few minutes kissing. And to think, they had spent an entire weekend doing that multiple times all over his apartment, on top of every surface, in the shower, in his bed, etc. Who knows. Maybe it's infatuation.

You know your wife and she knows you. Of course a hotwife must have feelings for her boyfriend but by the sounds of it your communication and trust for each other is spot on. You are a cuckold and Shawn knows how to push your buttons. He knows his place and accepts it. If he was madly in love with Lana then nothing would have stopped him from moving to your location as he contemplated. Sure they have feelings of love for each other. Yes you will feel some insecurities but can you ever stop the hunger you crave. And now can Lana ever stop as well. You and Shawn have a bond. You have spoken to him about certain limits before Lana went to Cali. Has he respected those concerns you raised.

Thank you. Your post made me feel more at ease. I think it's normal for a woman especially to develop feelings with someone she sleeps with. And Lana definitely has something about her that gets guys to fall for her rather quickly. I'm pretty glad that if she had to fall in love with anyone in the past year, it's Shawn and not Adam.

Update: Remember Cara? Lana's friend that wanted to explore the lifestyle but her husband was against it? Well they're officially separated. Not yet divorced but it's pretty clear that's where things are headed. Lana and I are tossing around the idea of having her as a part of the fun when Shawn comes. She knows of all of the updates as her and Lana speak every day, so we're trying to feel out the hypothetical, and whether there are consequences that we're failing to anticipate.

I can't wait to read what happens! Definitely keep us updated!! lol

Cara has already said that Shawn is, in her words "crazy hot." Lana also shared pictures of Eric to which Cara responded with, "OMG Lana .... I can't believe you had them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!!". She clearly wants some level of participation in the next few weeks.

[snoogaloo82]

Cara has already said that Shawn is, in her words "crazy hot." Lana also shared pictures of Eric to which Cara responded with, "OMG Lana .... I can't believe you had them BOTH AT THE SAME TIME!!!". She clearly wants some level of participation in the next few weeks.

both at the same time is my dream come true!
i can't wait to hear how the participation goes.
maybe she'll get a participation medal! lol

[tojanman]

Time to describe Caras celebrity look alike!

[parmaham55]

If Lana can bring herself to share Shawn with one of her best friends, then that a sure sign that her love for him is not threatening to you. Lana is not showing any signs of jealousy over Shawn so far. Any sense of possessiveness on her part would perhaps be a sign of something deeper.

Lana doesn’t even need to ask you to be faithful fully to her, that’s a given, and deep. When/If she seeks that in Shawn too, perhaps that’s another level to seek, stepping into true poly relationship.

For example, she may enjoy the high of having Cara at a hot, sexy party with her and Shawn and Eric, but what if Shawn then hooks up with Cara later, one-on-one. How would Lana cope with that?

[parmaham55]

Time to describe Caras celebrity look alike!

I think if you look back in the thread or do a search, then you'll find that W has mentioned Elizabeth Turner as a possible?

[parmaham55]

Oh, wait, yes... I see what you mean. Cara. Yes, that'd be good to know.

[veub]

I never take anything said here offensively and I'm glad you felt the freedom to have the candor to say what you did in your post. But I have to ask why you feel sorry for me. I still have the love of my life and she's still carrying my baby. I just feel lucky that she feels secure enough to be as honest as she has been in admitting her love for Shawn.

This is also not meant to be offensive, but it would drive me crazy if I didn't know for sure.
Have to done any testing to establish that it is your baby? Whatever your feelings would be if it's not, I would want to know.

[snoogaloo82]

I never take anything said here offensively and I'm glad you felt the freedom to have the candor to say what you did in your post. But I have to ask why you feel sorry for me. I still have the love of my life and she's still carrying my baby. I just feel lucky that she feels secure enough to be as honest as she has been in admitting her love for Shawn.

This is also not meant to be offensive, but it would drive me crazy if I didn't know for sure.
Have to done any testing to establish that it is your baby? Whatever your feelings would be if it's not, I would want to know.

i would want to know, too!

[shawnm]

W, if Cara joins in a foursome with Lana, Shawn and Eric, do you think you would be allowed to cleanup Cara as well?

[snoogaloo82]

W, if Cara joins in a foursome with Lana, Shawn and Eric, do you think you would be allowed to cleanup Cara as well?

that's a great question. i'm curious to find out.

[w770]

If Lana can bring herself to share Shawn with one of her best friends, then that a sure sign that her love for him is not threatening to you. Lana is not showing any signs of jealousy over Shawn so far. Any sense of possessiveness on her part would perhaps be a sign of something deeper.

Lana doesn’t even need to ask you to be faithful fully to her, that’s a given, and deep. When/If she seeks that in Shawn too, perhaps that’s another level to seek, stepping into true poly relationship.

For example, she may enjoy the high of having Cara at a hot, sexy party with her and Shawn and Eric, but what if Shawn then hooks up with Cara later, one-on-one. How would Lana cope with that?

It's a good question and I feel like one that can only be answered only after Lana sees hypothetically Shawn and Cara together. She's been jealous of me noticing other beautiful women before, so it might speak to her level of love for Shawn if she doesn't get jealous of Shawn with other women.

Oh, wait, yes... I see what you mean. Cara. Yes, that'd be good to know.

Time to describe Caras celebrity look alike!

It's funny what separation/divorce will do. Since it became official, Cara has colored her hair a lighter brown and styled it somewhat differently. When Lana showed me a picture, I swear I thought it was a picture of this one model, Helen Owen. She's objectively a very good looking woman, but maybe it's just chemistry, but I've never been attracted to her. Lana let Shawn know the situation and sent pictures of Cara to him and he responded with "wow... Birds of a feather... You both are drop dead gorgeous."

Lana also let him know of Cara's martial situation and he said "looks like I'll be fucking two married women soon."

At this point, I really hope Cara and Cory don't get back together because I don't think he'll be able to handle getting back with Cara and hearing that she was with Shawn and maybe Shawn and Eric with Lana while they were separated.

W, if Cara joins in a foursome with Lana, Shawn and Eric, do you think you would be allowed to cleanup Cara as well?

Hmm.. I'm not sure actually. Cara has made comments in the past about finding me attractive, and like I said above, she is very objectively attractive, but I've never felt that way towards her. But when you factor in the "heat of the moment" decision making, it's hard to say.