Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Gulfcpl » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:18 am

Any term referring to anyone that does not have the permission of the one referred to, in my opinion, shouldn’t be used. It’s the same as referring to a lady as a slut or whatever. Unless one refers to themselves as this or that, I don’t think it should be used. Personally I don’t care for the term bull. If a guy wants to be known as that, that’s up to him. I won’t use the term.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Wifesharing » Thu Dec 14, 2023 10:25 am

I really don't care either way i find label kind of silly. There are times the term is just the easiest way to describe something.

I find a person saying I am a "Stag" not being okay with a term like "bull" to be strange maybe i am over thinking it

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by bowlerlb » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:49 pm

I see the term "Bull" as say a one off pickup type connection. I have always seen myself as her Lover, or Pleasure giver, or if you wish Fuck Buddy (Friend with Benefits).

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Dutchpride7 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:08 am

isinlarsa wrote:
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I've been on both sides of the hotwife/cuckold equation, and I've never liked "bull" from either perspective.
I'm a Bull & cringe because I can't stand saying it myself. I think it is so hinkey to say Bull,and Its definately not a word that exemplifies the work or deeds done. I'd think "Stud" would be better.
The word came out of the cuckold lifestyle,and that I don't mind. I do mind and don't care for the humiliating & degrading part of that lifestyle at all. And have nothing to do with. To each there own.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by trecital » Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:19 am

I suppose 'stag' is slightly better than 'bull', in that it doesn't so easily invoke an image of a great lumbering rather unintelligent beast (apologies to the bovine variety.....they aren't that stupid).

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Bryce 69 » Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm

I am a Vixen and love the term Bull

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by NewtonBlade » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:02 am

We don’t use the term in daily conversation unless it's about one of our bovines, but the word has a special place in our relationship.

My wife and I met on a blind date. Both divorced, two kids each with our previous spouses, and she had one by a lover a few years before we met. Knowing my farm background she brazenly said that she'd been bred by two bulls. I pretty much fell in love right then and there.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by SheLikesWhenIWatch » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:30 am

While I have, on a few horny occasions, used the term “bull,” I find the imagery and connotations it carries to be a bit inappropriate. With “bull,” I get a very distinct connotation that goes along with “breeding,” like some handler simply brought a massive animal in to impregnate my wife.

My wife has spent YEARS cultivating the relationships she has had with the two regular BOYFRIENDS who have been privileged enough to fuck her from time-to-time (in addition to me). They have reached that level of intimacy that allows them to actually be inside of her…to spill their seed into her body.

That’s not something “bullish.” It’s actually quite beautiful and exhilarating to witness. Her boyfriends and I share a special “bond of intimacy” being the only ones who have ever enjoyed her in a way that no others have.

She rather enjoys feeling us spill our seed into her as well, and there have been occasions where she has enjoyed multiple seeds simultaneously, which heightens our combined intimacy, of course.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Cappy » Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:07 am

You know…for as long as we been in the lifestyle. We have never referred to them as bulls. I think it’s because we are friends first… so we always refer to them by there name. I think it’s just who you hang around with that determines how you act and talk.. although I do think of my man as a …..Bull

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by 4herpleasure89 » Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:55 pm

There is a huge misunderstanding about the metaphor “bull”. It has a much longer history, in many cultures than “cuckold” which has a long history. Stag has little to none.
I posted an article on my hotties thread that explains that history and why the term has continuing significance. In my opinion, the reason why some object to it is they do not understand its origin or they have never experienced a real “bull” (not the barnyard variety). A “third” is not necessarily a bull. Once you’ve experienced a good bull you may realize why the term has continuing significance.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by 4herpleasure89 » Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:55 pm

There is a huge misunderstanding about the metaphor “bull”. It has a much longer history, in many cultures than “cuckold” which has a long history. Stag has little to none.
I posted an article on my hotties thread that explains that history and why the term has continuing significance. In my opinion, the reason why some object to it is they do not understand its origin or they have never experienced a real “bull” (not the barnyard variety). A “third” is not necessarily a bull. Once you’ve experienced a good bull you may realize why the term has continuing significance.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by SheLikesWhenIWatch » Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:30 pm

4herpleasure89 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:55 pm
There is a huge misunderstanding about the metaphor “bull”. It has a much longer history, in many cultures than “cuckold” which has a long history. Stag has little to none.
I posted an article on my hotties thread that explains that history and why the term has continuing significance. In my opinion, the reason why some object to it is they do not understand its origin or they have never experienced a real “bull” (not the barnyard variety). A “third” is not necessarily a bull. Once you’ve experienced a good bull you may realize why the term has continuing significance.
I’ve spent an hour and a half reading through the first 50 pages of your Hotties thread looking for your article on the history and significance of “bull” as a metaphor for a man who fucks another man’s wife. I’ll pick up on page 51 tomorrow, I suppose.

It’s a good read!

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Wifewithothers » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:12 pm

Mostly because there are so many guys running around calling themselves bulls and think it means being obnoxious.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Hungdaddynyc » Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:28 am

It doesn’t matter. I think of myself as a lover for women who need something extra. Like hotwife/vixen and cuckold/stag they are there to convey an understanding of a dynamic. I don’t expect the terms to have fine grained understanding.

The problem I see here is many men use the term without being interested in the kink.
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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by leggysman » Sat Nov 16, 2024 7:50 pm

Wifewithothers wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:12 pm
Mostly because there are so many guys running around calling themselves bulls and think it means being obnoxious.
^^^ yep, exactly. Avoid.

And even when you try to correct them about your dynamic, they're so enamored of their 'identity' as 'bull', and the husband's as 'cuck', they don't even hear you, and just keep behaving like the obnoxious caveman they think they're supposed to be.
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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Luv2SucknSwallowFEM » Wed Nov 20, 2024 5:33 pm

I hate it.
n fact I won't respond to any message I receive from someone who refers to themselves as a Bull.
The term essentially means you assume you are replacing my husband and your re going BULLY your way into the position. Nobody replaces my husband, I just have his permission to fuck other men & I love to fuck other men. I find it offensive that anyone could have a state of mind that essentially means "I am going to push out your mate and breed you", because that's essentially what it means. If that's your kink, great... enjoy, but I don't accept it in our dynamic.
I will also NEVER play with a man who calls himself a DOM. If you need to call yourself a Dom you have already failed in the role. Domination is an action, not an identity - Master is an identity, Alpha Male is a state of being to identify oneself. Dom is simply turning a verb into a noun in an attempt to extrapolate some identity for abusive intentions.
How are you a Dom if you don't have anyone submitting to you? How are you a Dom when someone says "NO" to your command... you have literally been stripped of your Dominance. The term Dom should be changed to dictator... and what happens to Dictators when those they attempt to rule rebel against them? - they are stripped of power.
I hear Dom from a man and I immediate think weakness & insecurity. I have yet to meet a Dom who passes my "litmus" test for true Dominance. Like a 10" cock - they don't exist. I instantly begin at a state of little respect for any Man who struts around calling themselves a Dom with the mindset that they are going to give orders with the expectation that the person must simply obey. If a dynamic exists between two people where one is in a Dominant position & the other is in a submissive position, that's fine... that's their thing, but it ends there. Most let that power go to their head and try to apply it to others around them... that is abuse of power. Usually an abuser to claim the position to manipulate, intimidate and abuse others. What I have found in the lifestyle is that most so called "Doms" simply don't realize they are actually a Top. if you are only taking control in the bedroom you are not a Dom - YOU ARE A TOP!!!

Just because you do dominating things doesn't make you a Dom.
And being invited in to fuck another mans wife doesn't make you a Bull.
Perhaps Citizen Dildo would be a better term.
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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by discreetlys husband » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:55 am

What she said.

I am more of a servant/submissive with my wife. But I don’t need to announce it. We have found roles and situations that work for us. But I don’t think anyone would guess this is our jam.


I am just genuinely that way and I am confident in who I am. So with she and I, I just do and it feels right for me to do and it feels right for her to acknowledge. It’s not needed to broadcast.

I have always disliked the Bull term, it has no place in our relationship. If it works for others, I’m happy for them.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by little sissy Benita » Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:22 am

I am not a stag - i am a total cuckold and a sissy baby.
But i don´t like words like bull or slut - it is disrespectful in my opinion. A HW should be shown great respect and that's why I think mistress or mommy is more appropriate - the lover should be addressed as mister or daddy.Whether I like a lover/daddy or not is actually unimportant, because he has to please her (mommy) and I have to comply - but that's just my opinion

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by isinlarsa » Sat Nov 30, 2024 9:43 am

For some reason, my wife prefers the term stud, even though that still has an animal connotation. I myself like to refer to her men as her paramours.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Bbw_cuck_watcher » Tue Dec 10, 2024 9:11 am

We feel exactly the same and have never referred to anyone as a bull. We seem to have a different type of relationship as far as cucking goes, than most. But it’s always just been her playmates. But I understand some couples are into the humiliation side of it, and nothing wrong with that. We don’t kink shame. For us, and especially me (the husband) it’s all about her pleasure. It’s me deciding to share the most important thing in the world to fully enhance, and fulfill HER as much as possible. Her playmate is just an instrument we use to make her fulfilled, the same way a toy would be (except they have many more uses). When I eat the creampie, I’m removed what you deposited in my queen, and when I suck her sweet juices off of him, I’m collecting back so it stays with us.

I worship her from head to toe, and do anything in my power to make sure she’s satisfied in every way she can be. There’s nothing humiliating about that, or anything I do. It’s all about her. She has put her body through hell having babies, and all the other stuff I’ve dragged her down with me over the decades of our relationship. So now I worship her until my last breath!

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by loving_hubby » Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:01 am

Wife hates this term. In any situation as it implies she's the cow.
Stimulate the mind and the body will follow...
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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by armyguyot1 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:27 am

Welcome to the forum loving_hubby.

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by trecital » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:38 am

loving_hubby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:01 am
Wife hates this term. In any situation as it implies she's the cow.
Nothing wrong with a cow.
Cows give us cream, butter, milk and all sorts of other delicious dairy products.
What's not to like?

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by loving_hubby » Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:39 am

trecital wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:38 am
loving_hubby wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:01 am
Wife hates this term. In any situation as it implies she's the cow.
Nothing wrong with a cow.
Cows give us cream, butter, milk and all sorts of other delicious dairy products.
What's not to like?
Like in all things, to each their own. ;)
Stimulate the mind and the body will follow...
Stag/Vixen thread viewtopic.php?t=74731#p1531749
Hotties thread viewtopic.php?f=9&t=74738

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Re: Am I the only stag who hates the term, bull.

Unread post by Mr Kook » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:50 am

I'm 58 and have been in "the game" since age 24, I suspect well before any of these identifiers were created. Since meeting my cuter half ~12yrs ago we've been dabbling with variations of MFM, Stag & Vixen, Hall Pass (for both), and mild cuck adventures. She never uses the term Bull, the only use I have for it is as a keyword tag on Literotica or other sites. YMMV
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