In Plain Sight

[Long Lurker 34]

I honestly think that the plain sight option is the least risky option when considering an ongoing relationship. The logic is that the more lies you’re telling, the higher the risk of getting caught in one of them. For example, say a couple was trying to hide things and told me that the wife was in a new book club to explain her absences. You would have to craft an entirely believable story about how she found out about the book club, background stories for all the fake members of the book club, what books they are reading, why those books were selected, where they are meeting, when they are meeting, and why others can’t join the book club if they are interested, etc., etc., etc. That’s a lot to get right and keep straight.

Compare that to, “Hey this is my friend X and we met at Y. We like to hangout some sometimes.” That’s a hell of a lot simpler. The only lie is one of omission (“Oh by the way, I also like to watch him have sex with my wife.”).

My recommendation, if you go with the plain sight option, is to emphasize the friendship between the husband and the other guy. That will generally make the story more believable/relatable and less likely to raise suspicions. You can increase the believability by having the two of them hangout from time to time without the wife around. The good news is that I think that is something good for cucks and bulls to do anyway.

I’m a personal trainer and my couples and I have used that as our background story. One or both of them hired me to do one-on-one workout sessions, either at my home gym or theirs. We’ll just say that we became friends because of that and that’s why we are spending time together socially.

Again, it is simple and believable. The only lie is that we aren’t mentioning that I am sleeping with the wife.

Well said, and the bolded part was exactly our perspective as well. We already hang out with him semi-regularly, so introducing him to others is a deliberate risk mitigation step. We're not going to introduce every guy who fucks my wife a few times to our extended social circle. But this particular guy has become a legitimate friend of ours in his own right, who also happens to have an ongoing sexual relationship with my wife. At this point it would raise more suspicions not to have introduced him. "Hey, who's that one guy who hangs out at their house but nobody else has ever met?"

If a neighbor notices his truck in our driveway, or if a friend or family member stops by our house and the three of us are on the patio having a beer, people will be less likely to get suspicious. If we hadn't already introduced him they might get the wrong (well...right ) idea.

ILMW - Having common interests, (aside from ones wife) I should think, would be quite helpful to provide lots of excuses as to why he might be at your place so frequently.

[iloanmywife]

ILMW - Having common interests, (aside from ones wife) I should think, would be quite helpful to provide lots of excuses as to why he might be at your place so frequently.

I agree completely. It makes the sex better as well, since there's a stronger mutual connection. It's easy to transition from hanging out to sex and back to hanging out, to the point where there's really no line between the two. Like watching a movie at his place and I look over and she's going down on him, or having wine in our kitchen and he pulls her yoga pants down and slips in as we're still talking. It feels organic, which makes it sexy. And to your point, having mutual interests gives us plausible deniability why we're together. That's a major reason we've turned down offers from otherwise interesting potential men. If we have nothing in common then we wouldn't be able to explain why we're together.

[noreaster]

We’ve had 3 different situations that I can think of that kind of fall into this area.

The first was a relative of mine so him being around wasn’t unusual whether or not I was there. There were times the two of them would go for a motorcycle ride on his motorcycle or she’d ride with him somewhere or even if he stopped by the house to visit and I may not be home. It this particular situation and at that time he wasn’t aware I knew it was going on either.

The second only happened once when another guy visited our family at an overnight camping out fundraiser. He wasn’t really formally introduced and didn’t interact with everyone but did do some laps with my wife around the track. We just said he was a friend of hers but it only happened once.

The other time was with a well known professional in a small town next to ours. They only got together a few times before he faded away. I believe his fading away was due to not being able to come up with a good reason for us to be suddenly hanging around with him if anyone saw us all together or saw us or our car at his house. We really had nothing in common with him other than the sex they had. It was a concern of ours, or mine anyway, more than his I think.

[Long Lurker 34]

ILMW - Having common interests, (aside from ones wife) I should think, would be quite helpful to provide lots of excuses as to why he might be at your place so frequently.

I agree completely. It makes the sex better as well, since there's a stronger mutual connection. It's easy to transition from hanging out to sex and back to hanging out, to the point where there's really no line between the two. Like watching a movie at his place and I look over and she's going down on him, or having wine in our kitchen and he pulls her yoga pants down and slips in as we're still talking. It feels organic, which makes it sexy. And to your point, having mutual interests gives us plausible deniability why we're together. That's a major reason we've turned down offers from otherwise interesting potential men. If we have nothing in common then we wouldn't be able to explain why we're together.

ILMW - It sort of surprises me to some degree when I read other threads where there is a long term situation (or at least with some), that there isn't more of the "mutual interests" scenario used. In some ways a very good cover.

[SubSnuggler]

ILMW - Having common interests, (aside from ones wife) I should think, would be quite helpful to provide lots of excuses as to why he might be at your place so frequently.

Like watching a movie at his place and I look over and she's going down on him, or having wine in our kitchen and he pulls her yoga pants down and slips in as we're still talking. It feels organic, which makes it sexy.

Wow, both of those situations sound sexy as hell. We do hotel take-overs and hotel meets, so my Wife has never had 'innocent activities' turn sexual. A situation like that would blow my cuck mind (in a good way).

[Long Lurker 34]

ILMW - Having common interests, (aside from ones wife) I should think, would be quite helpful to provide lots of excuses as to why he might be at your place so frequently.

Like watching a movie at his place and I look over and she's going down on him, or having wine in our kitchen and he pulls her yoga pants down and slips in as we're still talking. It feels organic, which makes it sexy.

Wow, both of those situations sound sexy as hell. We do hotel take-overs and hotel meets, so my Wife has never had 'innocent activities' turn sexual. A situation like that would blow my cuck mind (in a good way).

SS - The innocent activities scenario implies a long term BF/FWB type situation. Is this something you and your wife would be up for? And would probably mean way less of swinging activities.

[SubSnuggler]

ILMW - Having common interests, (aside from ones wife) I should think, would be quite helpful to provide lots of excuses as to why he might be at your place so frequently.

Like watching a movie at his place and I look over and she's going down on him, or having wine in our kitchen and he pulls her yoga pants down and slips in as we're still talking. It feels organic, which makes it sexy.

Wow, both of those situations sound sexy as hell. We do hotel take-overs and hotel meets, so my Wife has never had 'innocent activities' turn sexual. A situation like that would blow my cuck mind (in a good way).

SS - The innocent activities scenario implies a long term BF/FWB type situation. Is this something you and your wife would be up for? And would probably mean way less of swinging activities.

Definitely not. My Wife is a Dominatrix. Boys are just toys for her amusement... men are frivolities, nothing more. She doesn't have any issue with recurring bulls, she has two, but as far as deeper relationships she couldn't be less interested.

[Long Lurker 34]

Like watching a movie at his place and I look over and she's going down on him, or having wine in our kitchen and he pulls her yoga pants down and slips in as we're still talking. It feels organic, which makes it sexy.

Wow, both of those situations sound sexy as hell. We do hotel take-overs and hotel meets, so my Wife has never had 'innocent activities' turn sexual. A situation like that would blow my cuck mind (in a good way).

SS - The innocent activities scenario implies a long term BF/FWB type situation. Is this something you and your wife would be up for? And would probably mean way less of swinging activities.

Definitely not. My Wife is a Dominatrix. Boys are just toys for her amusement... men are frivolities, nothing more. She doesn't have any issue with recurring bulls, she has two, but as far as deeper relationships she couldn't be less interested.

SS - In that case perhaps she would be interested in developing her own (you aside) reoccurring subs squad.

[funkyfitter]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

[SubSnuggler]

Wow, both of those situations sound sexy as hell. We do hotel take-overs and hotel meets, so my Wife has never had 'innocent activities' turn sexual. A situation like that would blow my cuck mind (in a good way).

SS - The innocent activities scenario implies a long term BF/FWB type situation. Is this something you and your wife would be up for? And would probably mean way less of swinging activities.

Definitely not. My Wife is a Dominatrix. Boys are just toys for her amusement... men are frivolities, nothing more. She doesn't have any issue with recurring bulls, she has two, but as far as deeper relationships she couldn't be less interested.

SS - In that case perhaps she would be interested in developing her own (you aside) reoccurring subs squad.

If you can cook well, do domestic tasks, are willing to endure permanent chastity, and know to say please and yes ma'am, she would think about it. She takes ownership and control seriously. Honestly she would prefer a girl sub more, but she's not picky.

[Smallcock74]

My wife prefers long term partners. She had been seeing one particular guy for about a year. It was inevitable that one day our secret life would collide with our everyday life. It was a Sunday afternoon and we were having dinner with family at our house. My wife's boyfriend turned up just as we were finishing. We introduced him as a friend of mine who had come over to watch the game. As my wife was making coffee in the kitchen he put his hand up her skirt whilst at the same time having a conversation with my brother in law through the serving hatch. It made me instantly hard and it was me that was unable to return to the dining room a for a little while longer.

[elina]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

I admire Your Wife and envy you.
Did you cover how this went in any other thread?

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

[Little96Jon]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

I admire Your Wife and envy you.
Did you cover how this went in any other thread?

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

How degrading for you.

[funkyfitter]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

I admire Your Wife and envy you.
Did you cover how this went in any other thread?

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

[funkyfitter]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

I admire Your Wife and envy you.
Did you cover how this went in any other thread?

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

How degrading for you.

That's the first time that she went with anyone else to an actual event where we knew people.

[venus-can99]

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

Would be great to hear the story - including how your hw and Dan got started

[elina]

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

Would be great to hear the story - including how your hw and Dan got started

[AZPainter]

I have told my story in a couple of threads in this cuckold section of my wife was pretty promiscuous when I met her and it continued after we were dating and eventually married. I believed her "playing the field" ended while we dated and were married. I did find out about a year into our marriage and we came to an agreement as I realized it was very doubtful she would stop since she was around most the men she was playing with and honestly and to my surprise excited me and made me hard learning about what and who she was doing.. I've told this story several times about finding out so I won't go into it again here.

It worked out and we both enjoyed it. Eventually she would sometimes bring a guy home after work to spend the night or sometimes just a convenient place to play. We had very different circles of friends. As an artist my friends were nearly all in the art business some way, artists, gallery people, clients and collectors. Hers were nightclub workers like herself and a few regular customers in the club she worked at. She was a working "manager" for scheduling shifts for cocktail waitress's, and bar tender. The owner of he club owned several clubs in our city. My friends were primarily day people and hers were night people. Any mixing was simply a friend of mine going to the club she worked at and that was usually with a group of their friends. Interaction between my wife and my friends was negligible.

My studio was in our home but somewhat removed from the main part of the house, like down a hallway and a separate room a visitor would be using. I did have a separate entrance that clients or friends would use to see me while working during the day. It was still attached to the house though.

Her friends knew I was aware that she was fucking others but none of mine did pretty quickly after my wife and I made our agreement. This was a bit humiliating for me at times, but was never a problem with clients coming to my studio, until one day. A client called and asked if his work I had done for him was finished and could he stop by and pick it up. I said sure, no problem. He arrived about a half hour later. He and his wife and business partner, who I did not know, were looking at the art work I had hanging in a part of my studio. We were all talking about art and the business partner was interested in buying one of my paintings I had on display. About this time my wife and her current playmate walked in from the house. He was fully dressed but my wife was wearing only a muumuu, and her hair was a mess and it was fairly obvious she was nude under it in the right light and the movement of the muumuu. The guy with her had spent the night before and just wanted to see my work. They excused themselves and retreated quickly. A VERY awkward moment to say the least! I had no idea how to explain this and my clients were without words as well. My client asked for his art work he was picking up and the sale of the painting went south as they were all suddenly ready to leave.

From that point on I have no idea if my clients and wife talked about this although I am sure they most likely did to some others as we had mutual friends. As for my wife and me a new issue was added to our agreement. Never bring a play partner into the studio without letting me know before hand. Definitely an unexpected and awkward moment.

[isinlarsa]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

I admire Your Wife and envy you.
Did you cover how this went in any other thread?

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

Well, it's gotten interest now. Did she take Dan to the wedding? How did she explain him being her plus one instead of you, her husband?

[funkyfitter]

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

Would be great to hear the story - including how your hw and Dan got started

Sorry that it took so long g to get back here but I couldn't remember what thread thus was in and I couldn't get to my posts because the server was too jammed up.

[funkyfitter]

My wife received an invitation to her old bosses daughters wedding because he always liked her and they've stayed in touch. I've met him a couple of times but it's been awhile since I've seen him. When I got home from work on Saturday the invitation was in the mail. It was addressed to her so I put it on the kitchen table and didn't think much of it. It looked like an invitation or a thank you card type of envelope and figured I'd find out when she opened it.She was at her sister's and didn't get home until later that night. When she saw it she said, "I'll bet that's an invitation to the wedding because that's Tom's daughters address on the return." I had no idea what wedding she was talking about because she didn't even know she would be invited. When she opened it, I asked when it was. She told me when, tacked it to the board and wrote wedding on May 17th and circled it on the calander. The next day we visited a friend in the hospital and went out to dinner with his wife and daughter.

When we got home she threw in a load of laundry and told me to pour her a glass of wine. I poured the wine and handed it to her when she walked into the kitchen. She tooka sip and stood there looking at me for a moment before saying,
"You know I've been thinking about this wedding."
"Oh yeah. What about it ?"
"I've been thinking about it and I'm going to ask Dan to come with me."
I felt my body sag and the blood drain from my face. Dan is her 42yo boyfriend from Jersey that she's been fucking for almost two years !
It's going to be a whole other level now.

I admire Your Wife and envy you.
Did you cover how this went in any other thread?

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

Well, it's gotten interest now. Did she take Dan to the wedding? How did she explain him being her plus one instead of you, her husband?

Sorry but I just got back because I couldn't remember what thread this was on and the server was always too busy for me to look back on my posts.

[Long Lurker 34]

No, I didn't. It didn't get any interest until you came along.

Would be great to hear the story - including how your hw and Dan got started

Sorry that it took so long g to get back here but I couldn't remember what thread thus was in and I couldn't get to my posts because the server was too jammed up.

FF
- Still would like to learn how this played out if you are still interested to tell it.

[funkyfitter]

I'm definitely interested in telling but have limited time right now. Just got on real quick and was floored that I found the thread. I'll get back to you later.

[venus-can99]

I'm definitely interested in telling but have limited time right now. Just got on real quick and was floored that I found the thread. I'll get back to you later.

No worries - let us know how things are playing out. Glad to see you back

[Wifesharing]

the In plain sight has worked for us through out our marriage. We basically just have freinds around and give simple explinations if asked. It works out well to have people over for dinner and social functions, worked great with the kids so at night if a guy was over playing darts or pool with the Wife and me, as long as the interactions were not to overt it was not seen as unusual for a man to be over hanging out for the evening.

This worked for Family and friends as well, No all people we invite over are fucking my wife but some are and the key is there is no difference in the interactions. It is just normal if people come over there may be other people they do not know yet. Now when going out I am sure if she is seen out with a guy alone it might spark questions but no one ever asks us and it is not like we would share with them anyway, just out with a friend weather that friend is male or female. She always keeps PDA way down when in a location others might be. Her having Friends both Male or female is common enough to others I don't think anyone thinks much of it. I have been told that it is refreshing to see a Husband that is secure enough that his wife having a meal with a guy does not bother him. If they only knew