Able to make wife orgasm? Influenced cuckold desires?

[Gmor]

Im curious how many posters are able (or unable) to make their wife orgasm during intercourse. And if you aren’t able to has this influenced your cuckold fantasies?

When I refer to orgasm in this context I am referring to a vaginal orgasm. For my wife (and also in my previous relationship) these two women very clearly let me know that there was a significant difference in the intensity of their orgasms when they were from PIV vs other methods. My wife for example has described a vaginal orgasm as a ‘full’ or ‘real’ orgasm whereas a clitoral orgasm while still ‘pleasant’ and nice enough as foreplay, by itself leaves her unfulfilled sexually. Of course I know this isnt the same for all women so the question may not be relevant for everyone?

Im still just a Wannabe but in both these two relationships I have been unsuccessful making these women climax during sex (but prior partners could) and this caused us issues both in the bedroom as well as spurring on my cuckold fantasies.

Im curious to know if others have struggled to satisfy their partners and how this has influenced their fantasies. I don’t think my wife will ever become a hotwife but she knows about my fantasies and is willing to tell me ‘stories’ in 3rd person but where it is very clearly real stories about her past with prior boyfriends who were able to drive her crazy in bed and make her orgasm. While this is a far cry from many online experiences here who have real hotwifes it still drives me crazy and is a lot of fun.

[5t3f]

Hey. It definitely influenced that I cannot. Not too often at least. She s only ever been with me and I m 9cm.

This is a huge thing in my shoulder, and pushed me deeper and deeper into cuckold fantazies.

Now I even fantazies her fucking other man as I do it, but I cannot bring myself to tell her. And I don t think I could actually handle it for real.

But I imagined her fucking so many people, my brothers, her boss, my friends, strangers. So many dirty scenarios.

Her getting drunk and fucked at a party, someone recording her and post her online, and that's how I find out. This is one of the most turn on scenarios. See her with some strangers, and they tease her that they see she s not fucked good at home.

[money_for_nothin23]

Every woman is different. Some women can only orgasm with clit stimulation. Some can do clit stimulation with just a tongue. Others require the intensity of a vibrator. Some can get off with PIV and no direct clit stimulation. Some require both clit stimulation and PIV for that full feeling. Some can orgasm with nipple stimulation only and nothing touching their clit or pussy. And there are more variations than all that. The best thing to do is let her guide you.....which will require humility, sensitivity, and listening. For most women I have been around, 90% of her orgasm happens in her brain before you even touch her! And by the way, just as you get it figured out, she changes a bit and you are expected to keep up with whatever it is she didn't tell you or you are just the shit!

[Bobs52]

I don’t think that necessarily led to this kink, but I’ve never been able to make my wife (or any woman for that matter) orgasm through intercourse. She maintained for many years that she couldn’t orgasm that way.

Several years ago after she had been aware of my fantasy and her explicit permission to fuck other men for some time, she finally acted on it at an out of town high school reunion which I did not attend. So this is her first time acting on her hall pass and she happens to hit the jackpot! While the guy was fucking her from behind, he reached around and started massaging her clit. She had an explosive second orgasm (the guy had gotten her off digitally once already). I asked her if she knew how lucky she was to have this happen her first time out.

While she seems to understand that it’s somewhat rare to have a first time random experience turn out so well, she maintains that technically it wasn’t an orgasm through intercourse alone as the guy was also massaging her clit. I told her “honey, you came with a guy’s dick in you! Regardless of the additional effort, you came through intercourse!”

Not sure why she was splitting hairs with this. Possibly to spare my feelings, which was completely unnecessary as I was absolutely thrilled for her!

[CuriousHusband91941]

Sex has actually be really good with my wife. She’s not into oral sex at all unfortunately, so my giving her O’s during PIV is the only way.
I still imagine what her facial expressions would be if another man was in my place and I was watching, laying next to them, holding her hand. She knows of my desires, so I ask her about enjoying good sex and cock inside her. I tell her she deserves this, deserves good cock. I sincerely tell her to get a boyfriend so she can get laid more often without holding back.
What really fuels these desires is also her enjoying oral sex with her boyfriend in all the ways she never allows or does with me. That “She never does that to me” or “allows me to do that” scenarios. Also a few times I have asked her, post giving her a couple O’s, if I can cum, and she has said no a few times. Being denied is super cucky and she knows I love it.

[athlete915]

I think this is a fascinating question/topic. In my experience, the recognition of the husbands of their own sexual shortcomings or at least understanding that there are more sexually capable men out there is a significant turning point, which can occur both before and after joining the lifestyle. If they care about their wife's pleasure and recognize their own inability to maximize her pleasure, there's a certain logic that points to letting her receive pleasure from a third party.

Thanks again for creating the thread.

[BBCfan]

Athlete915 surmised the logic I came to eventually with my wife.

She actually said she rarely O'ed during intercourse. I was surprised and we developed a position where she could ride in a way my head was rubbing her Gspot area and she could experience intense sleep inducing orgasms.

At times though I can barely reach the "right" spot, if I'm not rigid consistently for awhile then it can be challenging for her.

Knowing how a few of her former "studs" could easily hit the spot for her became more arousing to consider than anything else.

To see her or have her tell me about an earth shattering experience in her O-position on a massive dick she used to love fucking is the ultimate compersion fantasy for me.

[leggysman]

the recognition of the husbands of their own sexual shortcomings or at least understanding that there are more sexually capable men out there

We have the opposite problem. While we have a relatively small sample size so far, and there of course has to be someone(s) better out there, we haven't found him yet. I wish she would! I want to see my girl hungry for more of someone, excitedly looking forward to their next date, etc etc.

We have very naughty pillow talk about other guys, which revs up our sex life, but ... up until now she says she hasn't enjoyed the actual sex with any of them as much as she enjoys with me. She doesn't get as wet, they don't perform as well, they have occasional boner issues, their bodies aren't as nice, they don't hold her interest, etc, etc.

Her first guy came close, before he got a bit needy, but it might have just been the novelty. She did enjoy his big, thick cock, but she said it seemed like he was always 'edging' -- having to pause all the time. [ I have excellent control - I come only when I choose to - and when I do I can get there in ~30s. ]

While on the one hand, it's personally pleasing to hear her say these things, we both want her to find that guy. I'm good at sex. We need someone a cut above.

Sounds like you fellows out there need to upgrade your pussy-licking skills, BTW.

[athlete915]

[/quote]We have the opposite problem. While we have a relatively small sample size so far, and there of course has to be someone(s) better out there, we haven't found him yet. I wish she would! I want to see my girl hungry for more of someone, excitedly looking forward to their next date, etc etc.

[/quote]

While many guys love the idea of sleeping with a married woman, and a fair percentage of them would at least try with the husband watching, many couples still struggle to find guys who meet their desired traits. When you think about it, it makes sense. There are obvious things like looks and fitness. There is also size, stamina, and general sexual ability. It keeps going, though. The guys need to be able to perform with a husband watching. They need to understand the unique dynamic of being with a couple, especially their role in the relationship (i.e., NOT a replacement for the husband).
Don't forget discretion, charm, and even a bit of intelligence.

Those guys certainly exist, but couples will often need to wade through a lot of frogs before they find a prince (or wheat and chaff... or whatever is your favorite analogy).

I hope you two find the right guy eventually.

[parklife]

My wife doesn’t orgasm from PIV alone with me nor the men she has played with. She needs direct clit stimulation to orgasm regardless of the size/skill of any lovers. For that reason, she loves oral and also loved a vibrating cock ring we used to use a lot. It allowed her to have direct vibrating on her it and left her hands free to just enjoy.

She’s actually the first girl I haven’t been able to give an orgasm to thru intercourse alone and it did bother me for a while until I understood it wasn’t me (first time dealing with it and all) I don’t believe it had any part in my desires.

[Gmor]

Thanks for all the responses. I find all the postings very interesting.

I admit that its likely just a coincidence that in the two main relationships of my life both women desired/required a well endowed man to orgasm. Although in both cases at first they would downplay the benefits of size to not crush my confidence.

For example, when she first cheated my ex-girlfriend would admit to he was huge and the sex was outstanding, but would never explicitly say he was ‘better’ in bed. She would describe it as ‘very different’, or it ‘he felt a lot different’, but not that he was better. It was only much later that she admitted that when she said ‘different’ she really meant ‘better’. Although this should have been obvious to me all along as he could make her climax multiple times per session whereas I never could even once. Today all I need to do is think back to all the times she would say things like the sex with him ‘was a lot different’ knowing that what she really meant was the sex with him was ‘a lot better’ and I become aroused.

My wife too, would openly admit that she enjoyed her ex’s size she would say that this was only part of the reason the sex with him was so satisfying and not necessarily the main reason. This was early in our relationship when she was still confident that she could ‘teach’ me to satisfy her and that our sex would eventually become adequate. She was wrong and it didn’t.

All this taken together has very much contributed to my cuckold fantasies. Because it excites me so much ive been able to draw out certain facts and details out from these women over time and this only adds to my excitement knowing, that for these women at least, the sex and orgasms were significantly better with these men and its this that they fantasize about when they masturbate or I preform oral.

[ursamajor69]

The only time I've been able to make my wife cum by intercourse alone was when she was in the early phases of an intense relationship with an online boyfriend. She would orgasm hard as we both fantasized about him shooting his load inside her - note that we were using the withdrawal method at the time and I was not allowed to cum in her pussy. I have never been able to make her cum by fucking her ever since. I imagine that the only time my wife will ever be able to orgasm vaginally ever again is if she is taken by another guy.

So yeah, this has definitely influenced my cuckold desires.

[Gmor]

The only time I've been able to make my wife cum by intercourse alone was when she was in the early phases of an intense relationship with an online boyfriend. She would orgasm hard as we both fantasized about him shooting his load inside her - note that we were using the withdrawal method at the time and I was not allowed to cum in her pussy. I have never been able to make her cum by fucking her ever since. I imagine that the only time my wife will ever be able to orgasm vaginally ever again is if she is taken by another guy.

So yeah, this has definitely influenced my cuckold desires.

A similar thing occurred with an ex-girlfriend (not my wife). We originally had an active sex life where I could occasionally give her orgasms. These weren't anything exceptional orgasms by any means and there may have been hands etc involved some of the time (?) but she would climax occasionally and we both enjoyed our sex life. She then cheated on me and, although we reconciled her curiosity and desire to try different things changed dramatically. Apparently the man she cheated with had a normal penis in terms of thickness but it was pretty long, which previously had not been something she had thought she would be interested in, but her infidelity changed this.

She ended up suggesting we try an 'open relationship' which i somewhat hesitantly agreed to. She then had a couple of affairs/relationships with men who were able to satisfy her curiosity of being with extremely well endowed man (im smaller than average). The sex she was able to get from these men surpassed even highest expectations and she later shared with me how intense and satisfying it was, specially the orgasms. The down side was that after she began having regular sex with these other far larger men i was never again able to make her climax. As you can imagine this became a huge issue for us as she wanted to have increasing amounts of sex with men who could satisfy her and less to none with me which she found frustrating and boring. She ultimately ended our relationship, albeit not based soley on this issue but it was part of it.