Some questions for guys that previously thought there was no way they could ever be into this

[hubudig2]

TL;DR: Guys that previously thought there was absolutely no way they could ever be turned on by the thought of being cuckolded:
1. Why did you think (back then) that you couldn't be turned on by the idea? Was it a disgusting thought or jealousy?
2. Did you ever think about it in any detail (to know that it didn't turn you on) before you were turned on by it?
3. If a wife/gf had hinted back then that she was turned on by the idea, how do you think you would've reacted? Might you have played along with her fantasy at all?
4. What caused your first realisation that you were into it? How did it feel?
5. What percentage of guys would you guess would have the same realisation given that situation?
6. The first time you masturbated to the idea, was it a conscious choice (to think about your wife/gf being fucked) or was it an unshakeable thought?
7. Did you think the idea would pass? That it would lose it's appeal over time?
8. How long did it take from first realisation to masturbation, to accepting it was your thing?

Background:
I've chatted with a few monogamous wives that are turned on by the idea of cuckolding but are so absolutely convinced their husbands wouldn't entertain the idea that they won't even suggest it to them. I've had a couple of success stories where I've managed to convince wives/gfs to pursue the idea successfully but most will outright refuse to even try because they think it would never happen in a million years.
I understand why they think that, even when men are into it, women don't believe them, it is a counter-intuitive kink.
I'd be interested to hear more angles from guys that previously thought it was unthinkable, I believe most guys can be into this.
Thanks

[little sissy Benita]

For me it was exciting - but I also had fears of loss - the fear of being abandoned as an inferior man when a real man takes control was very high.

We have found a solution for ourselves - she lives with her African/black bf as a married couple - including pregnancy and I think it is absolutely fine if she calls him my husband and he calls her my wife.

I am now her little sissy daughter and baby - so chemically castrated - always limp and my willie is no longer measurable

little Benita

[bltn1966]

1. Me and my HW use to laugh at husbands that were cucks. I love watching my wife with another man. However, there was no way in the world I would let someone humiliate me. I would lose respect for myself.

2. Being a cuck never crossed my mind. I wanted a HW and that’s it. If anything, the thought of being a cuck turned me off.

3. As I said before me and my wife used to laugh at guys that were cucks. She said she couldn’t understand the kink. We both thought it was strange.

4. One night we found ourselves at a guys high rise condo. I absolutely didn’t like him at all and my wife knew it. To make a long story short, the guy started kissing my wife. I was about to kick his ass but my wife gave me a very mean look. The look told me not to interfere. My wife was demanding that I watch her have sex with this asshole. The kicker was when my wife was giving him a blowjob the guy shook his empty whiskey glass at me at told me to fill it up. I was ready to commit murder until my wife gave me another mean look. I felt like a loser when I refilled his glass. I truly wanted the guy to be a dud. Unfortunately yet thankfully I didn’t get my wish. For the next hour I watched the guy fuck my wife from one orgasm to another. How did it feel? I hated the guy but I love watching him fuck my wife. My wife laughed at some of the idiotic shit he said to me. He said shit like “I’m gonna make her cum so much she’s going to brain damage”. “Bro I’m sorry but I’m about to fuck the shit out of your wife”. “Bro I got that pussy purring” “your wife suck the white off of my cock”.

5. I personally think a very small percentage would want to be cucked. Hell, I was one of those guys.

[Flcuck4herand]

For me it was different. We were both bi when we married. Her completely and me very new. So after we got together we decided to find a bi couple that would swap and also be bi with us. Unfortunately that's not so easy to find. We had a mff once and then a mmf and it was good. As most know finding a single bi female is difficult. But by then my wife had swore off of being with women and we did a couple more mmf. She got really sick after that and we got out of that LS completely. Fast forward quite a few years and I got diabetes and lost the ability to stay hard long enough for penetration but she was ok with that. After a couple years of fantasy about another man I suggested we try mmf again. She agreed and we went looking. It wasn't until I was in a cuckold chat because there was no other place I could find to look and I also laughed at the cuckold guys because I've always been an alpha male. Finally my wife says you know your cuck right? I was shocked until we discussed it in great detail and I had no choice but to agree she was right. Since then I've learned to embrace it. I like knowing my place and being whatever they want me to be.

[surry]

My wife, Janet would do sex talk about me being forced to watch her have sex. She worked with this younger man - Bill. He was taller and had muscles. I did not like him at all. ( found out later he liked women and men.)
We had cookouts for her coworkers. I always had a bad feeling about him. He would order me to get him a drink or something. For example. John get me a coke. My wife would start to get it and Bill would say "No, I told John to get it." He complained about me cooking. He would tell me wife, how did I end up with her? He would hug her and touch her and look at me with a smirk. Then one day when everyone was leaving he shook my hand and pulled me in and said "I am going to fuck Janet and you are going to suck my dick." I told my wife and she just said "That's just Bill kidding. He's harmless."
I started thinking about him Fucking Janet and even taking her from me. The more I thought about it, I got mad but I jerked off to it. Then Janet told me Bill kissed her and told her she should invite him over to spend the night. Janet told me he was kidding. I admitted to her I did not like him but have been jerking off to him fucking her.
A week later she told me she told Bill what I told her. Bill wants to fuck me. He wants me to watch you suck him off. She asked do you want Bill to spend the weekend with us? I told her maybe. That evening Bill came home with my wife. I was a nervous but excited too. He wouldn't shake my hand. He said he doesn't shake hands with "Boys". My wife laughed. Then Bill kissed my wife and took off all her clothes as I watched. Bill said blunt me I could not stop him if I wanted. My wife was turned on. Janet put on a T-shirt.
I cooked them supper after I moved his over night bag to our bedroom. Bill fucked Janet and told me to watch TV. Then Janet called me into our bedroom. Janet looked well fucked. She was holding Bill's semi-hard dick. Janet told me "honey, cucks suck. Come get your reward."
We all enjoyed our new life.

[surry]

My wife, Janet would do sex talk about me being forced to watch her have sex. She worked with this younger man - Bill. He was taller and had muscles. I did not like him at all. ( found out later he liked women and men.)
We had cookouts for her coworkers. I always had a bad feeling about him. He would order me to get him a drink or something. For example. John get me a coke. My wife would start to get it and Bill would say "No, I told John to get it." He complained about me cooking. He would tell me wife, how did I end up with her? He would hug her and touch her and look at me with a smirk. Then one day when everyone was leaving he shook my hand and pulled me in and said "I am going to fuck Janet and you are going to suck my dick." I told my wife and she just said "That's just Bill kidding. He's harmless."
I started thinking about him Fucking Janet and even taking her from me. The more I thought about it, I got mad but I jerked off to it. Then Janet told me Bill kissed her and told her she should invite him over to spend the night. Janet told me he was kidding. I admitted to her I did not like him but have been jerking off to him fucking her.
A week later she told me she told Bill what I told her. Bill wants to fuck me. He wants me to watch you suck him off. She asked do you want Bill to spend the weekend with us? I told her maybe. That evening Bill came home with my wife. I was a nervous but excited too. He wouldn't shake my hand. He said he doesn't shake hands with "Boys". My wife laughed. Then Bill kissed my wife and took off all her clothes as I watched. Bill said blunt me I could not stop him if I wanted. My wife was turned on. Janet put on a T-shirt.
I cooked them supper after I moved his over night bag to our bedroom. Bill fucked Janet and told me to watch TV. Then Janet called me into our bedroom. Janet looked well fucked. She was holding Bill's semi-hard dick. Janet told me "honey, cucks suck. Come get your reward."
We all enjoyed our new life.

[hubudig2]

To make a long story short,

I think I've read your long[er] version before, here viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73067&p=1494294#p1493944, I enjoyed it then too.

3. As I said before me and my wife used to laugh at guys that were cucks. She said she couldn’t understand the kink. We both thought it was strange.

4. One night we found ourselves at a guys high rise condo. I absolutely didn’t like him at all and my wife knew it. To make a long story short, the guy started kissing my wife. I was about to kick his ass but my wife gave me a very mean look. The look told me not to interfere. My wife was demanding that I watch her have sex with this asshole. The kicker was when my wife was giving him a blowjob the guy shook his empty whiskey glass at me at told me to fill it up. I was ready to commit murder until my wife gave me another mean look. I felt like a loser when I refilled his glass. I truly wanted the guy to be a dud. Unfortunately yet thankfully I didn’t get my wish. For the next hour I watched the guy fuck my wife from one orgasm to another. How did it feel? I hated the guy but I love watching him fuck my wife. My wife laughed at some of the idiotic shit he said to me. He said shit like “I’m gonna make her cum so much she’s going to brain damage”. “Bro I’m sorry but I’m about to fuck the shit out of your wife”. “Bro I got that pussy purring” “your wife suck the white off of my cock”.

Would you say that was a behaviour change in your wife?
Had she ever been like that with you before?
Given that you both thought humiliation was strange, why do you think she behaved like that? Just came naturally?
Did that experience change how you [both] felt about cuckolding?
How did you go forward from there?

5. I personally think a very small percentage would want to be cucked. Hell, I was one of those guys.

I think if a wife gave her husband an ultimatum like that, it probably wouldn't be a small percentage that would go through with it and I think that experience would change how most of them felt about it. I'm probably just optimistic but I guess we'll never really know.

[safado]

1. Machismo, aversion to humiliation, romantic ideas about "one and only" faithful wife, and not wanting the possibility to raise another man's spawn. I was once shocked and a bit angered by a handsome older guy (a French army colonel) blatantly flirting with my ex-wife, and she responding to him and ignoring me as we sat at the bar of the hotel we were staying in. In retrospect there was some latent turn-on, but it was years later until the idea became conscious

2. I thought about it when I fucked a few cheating wives in one-night stands and considered the unknowing cuck husbands

3. After I had been married for awhile, yes I would have gone along with it, as I had begun to understand the latent slut my ex-wife was. Of course if my current wife proposed it, I would agree.

4. Ex wife caught me cheating when I was in my mid-40s. After she started talking to me again, she would tell me about men who were flirting or even blatantly propositioning her at work. She was trying to make me jealous and possessive, but it turned me on. I encouraged her to flirt back and tell me what happened. Her being from a traditional culture (Indian Muslim) was a part of the turn-on. Then I discovered this site and others and the game was on. I told her she could fuck any man she wanted as long as she told me about it after. After five years of talking about it, she finally fucked another man.

5. Every man is unique, but I think a high proportion.

6. Unshakable thought once it cohered in my mind

7. It has and it hasn't. Once the ex started fucking other men when I was away on business, it ebbed a bit. When she started cheating - fucking her ex without my immediate knowledge and talking about divorce, it went away. But I still relive her hotwifing days and would like my current wife to fuck other men.

8. It became a fixed fetish pretty quickly once it started (#4). I'm still a wannabe with my second wife.

[hubudig2]

Thanks for the replies.

After she started talking to me again, she would tell me about men who were flirting or even blatantly propositioning her at work. She was trying to make me jealous and possessive, but it turned me on. I encouraged her to flirt back and tell me what happened.

Was this a gradual process?
I imagine the first time you would've felt similar to the time with the French army colonel? Or was this immediately different?
Was it more erotic because she was blatantly trying to get back at you and rub your face in it? Almost unintentionally dominating you?
What happened to the machismo and other deterrents? Does that crumble away once your dick knows what it wants?

[safado]

Thanks for the replies.

After she started talking to me again, she would tell me about men who were flirting or even blatantly propositioning her at work. She was trying to make me jealous and possessive, but it turned me on. I encouraged her to flirt back and tell me what happened.

Was this a gradual process?
I imagine the first time you would've felt similar to the time with the French army colonel? Or was this immediately different?
Was it more erotic because she was blatantly trying to get back at you and rub your face in it? Almost unintentionally dominating you?
What happened to the machismo and other deterrents? Does that crumble away once your dick knows what it wants?

It was immediately different. This was eight years after the French colonel incident, and I was on the defensive because of my affairs. The marriage in retrospect had a lot of dominance struggles, since I married young and hadn't had many long term relationships or lived with a woman before, I wasn't aware that not all women were like that, and she was 5 years older. Trying to dominate me was a part of her nature.

The explosion of online porn and discussion forums like this inspired ideas and removed deterrents. We had been married for more than 20 years at this point. The "oneitis" had diminished. Maybe I felt I "deserved" the humiliation because of my affairs and this also removed any machismo. She was past fertile age, so no risk there.

The road to her actually fucking other men included discussion about female domination. I sent her stories and essays including that theme, and from the anonymous accounts we had on the old Yahoo messenger and chatrooms, I introduced her to a self-described "dom" who I encountered in a cuckold chatroom. He chatted with her separately and from the hints she dropped to me, he explained to her how she could control me and ensure my faithfulness while I was working away from home by fucking other men. When she stated fucking other men (only two, with one long-term lover) when I was away and sent me emails about it, she often expressed the dom mistress role:

My little slave:
I have a story to tell. After dressing up the way you saw me in the pics that I sent you, I looked at myself one more time and said to myself, “Baby, you look good to kill. Let’s go have some fun.” So I powdered my nose one more time, sprayed more of the Opium, your favorite perfume, and set out to have a wonderful time with the guy who adores me and is in love with me. I knew he was excited about seeing me, he tells me so all the time. He is like a kid who had just been given a big bowl of his favorite ice-cream. I was actually looking forward to it too considering how boring my life is – work, home, cooking, cleaning and just vegetating in front of the tv unless something interesting comes up such as seeing P. That is interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL . . . .

Well, my dear slave. We of course knew we didn't have much time. But he suggested that we finish our drinks and take a short break. Then he started to massage me. I had told him my back was hurting and he remembered. He gave me a great one. But when it came to turning me over, i could feel his hard on my back. This man can get hard. He holding it on my behind and rubbing it against my back. Then he moved me so i was kneeling and he penetrated me from behind. His one hand on my boobs, pressing my nipples while he was going in with long, slow strokes. I was so lubricated and he could get in quite easily. It felt so good, I didn't want it to end. Of course since i had already come before, i had the stamina to hold off coming but i could still feel the little orgasms that i couldn't stop. Then, he turned me over and asked me if i wanted to be on top of him. I did. I think i have more control being on top. I can move to get the right stimulation when i am on top. I rode him for a long, long time. As i moved, he was kissing and sucking my tits hungrily. His fingers gently touching my ass and slightly rubbing the slit. I was out of control. I wanted to go on and on and on. Finally, after almost an hour, we came. He let out quite a loud sound of relief. He was in heaven. We lay on the bed for a long time. . . .

[theothercuck]

TL;DR: Guys that previously thought there was absolutely no way they could ever be turned on by the thought of being cuckolded:
1. Why did you think (back then) that you couldn't be turned on by the idea? Was it a disgusting thought or jealousy?
2. Did you ever think about it in any detail (to know that it didn't turn you on) before you were turned on by it?
3. If a wife/gf had hinted back then that she was turned on by the idea, how do you think you would've reacted? Might you have played along with her fantasy at all?
4. What caused your first realisation that you were into it? How did it feel?
5. What percentage of guys would you guess would have the same realisation given that situation?
6. The first time you masturbated to the idea, was it a conscious choice (to think about your wife/gf being fucked) or was it an unshakeable thought?
7. Did you think the idea would pass? That it would lose it's appeal over time?
8. How long did it take from first realisation to masturbation, to accepting it was your thing?

Background:
I've chatted with a few monogamous wives that are turned on by the idea of cuckolding but are so absolutely convinced their husbands wouldn't entertain the idea that they won't even suggest it to them. I've had a couple of success stories where I've managed to convince wives/gfs to pursue the idea successfully but most will outright refuse to even try because they think it would never happen in a million years.
I understand why they think that, even when men are into it, women don't believe them, it is a counter-intuitive kink.
I'd be interested to hear more angles from guys that previously thought it was unthinkable, I believe most guys can be into this.
Thanks

1. My ex-wife did a few kisses for a short film, when we dated in college. It was a nauseating thought to me that filled me with resentment and jealousy. I was mostly envious that I didn't get to do this and she did.
2. I wound up Googling stage kisses and read up on them constantly, this thought totally occupied my every free moment.
3. I would have broken up with her on the spot.
4. I didn't come around all at once. It was a process that went from 2006-2009. I was revolted by the kiss, and the hand that went on her bum, but every so often during that period, when I thought about it, I became erect. I mostly ignored it.
5. It's about 50/50. My ex-wife became a burlesque dancer, male dancers place their hands on the female dancers' breasts often and about half the girls say it improves rather than hinders their sex lives with their partners. CNN ran an article about this and said it was up to 57% of men are aroused by it.
6. I would often masturbate to the feel of my gf's ass, and the image of another man's hands on it kept popping into my mind. I didn't pay much attention to it. My constant Googling of the concept of a sex scene with a married woman led me to a website on cuckolding. There was a response to the accusation that this makes us gay that read, "Nah, it's not about what's between another man's legs. It's about what's going between your wife's legs". I immediate put my computer down, and masturbated to the thought of her friend, a man with exceptionally large penis, having sex with my then gf.
7. I didn't confront the feeling all at once. I was still nauseated by her doing things like skinny dipping with guys, or playing sexy truth or dare at a summer camp she worked with. But the closer she got with her work husband, the more I fantasized about her doing the deed with him.
8. The first time I masturbated to it intentionally to offering to stay monogamous to my wife, and not hold her to the same restriction, was about a year.

For advise for women wanting to do this to their man, I would recommend doing what my ex did. Start slow. Make a comment about a cute waiter to see how he reacts. If you're from an area of the world that doesn't practice social kissing, give a good-looking guy a cheek kiss. If you're from a part of the world that does social kissing, plant your next one with a good-looking guy on his lips. Slap a male friend on his butt, and invite him to do the same. Gauge his reaction to that. See what his thoughts are on you taking your top off at the beach. Wear a short dress and position yourself so that his friends see your panties. Pose nude in an art studio. Take on a stage performance that involves a kiss. Openly talk about a large penis you admire in front of your man. Change your computer background to a hot guy. Don't do all of this at once, just find something you think you can get away with and go for it. Then add a little more and he'll want to pull back. Pull back for him. Prioritize him. Let him know he's #1 in your life. Then push forward a little more. Let these thoughts slowly gestate. If he opens up about it, be firm with your boundaries that he's not to do the same with another woman, even if this turns him on. Be a little selfish. Talk more about an attractive penis you saw one time, even if it was on a movie. Select a movie to watch with boobs in it, pause it and ask him about her boobs, then find a movie with an attractive penis and pause it, tell him you like his penis and describe what you admire about it. See how much further you can push him. Little by little you'll get there, and have lots of fun along the way.

[hubudig2]

1. My ex-wife did a few kisses for a short film, when we dated in college. It was a nauseating thought to me that filled me with resentment and jealousy. I was mostly envious that I didn't get to do this and she did.

I can kinda relate to this, my wife has had parts on stage that required her to kiss. I thought about it for a while before having to refuse and they had to write those parts out.
It felt petty of me but I didn't want to feel disgusted with her.

2. I wound up Googling stage kisses and read up on them constantly, this thought totally occupied my every free moment.

What were you trying to find out exactly?
Would you say that you both equally did and didn't want to find out that women got turned on by stage kissing or something?

3. I would have broken up with her on the spot.

This is why some women are scared to let on that they fantasize about it.
Do you think you would say the same if you had been together for 5, 10 or more years?

6. I would often masturbate to the feel of my gf's ass, and the image of another man's hands on it kept popping into my mind. I didn't pay much attention to it. My constant Googling of the concept of a sex scene with a married woman led me to a website on cuckolding. There was a response to the accusation that this makes us gay that read, "Nah, it's not about what's between another man's legs. It's about what's going between your wife's legs". I immediate put my computer down, and masturbated to the thought of her friend, a man with exceptionally large penis, having sex with my then gf.

Why were you googling a sex scene with a married woman?
Was this a hypothetical situation where your ex-wife might be required to act in a sex scene?
Does that moment thinking about her well equipped friend seem like a turning point?

7. I didn't confront the feeling all at once. I was still nauseated by her doing things like skinny dipping with guys, or playing sexy truth or dare at a summer camp she worked with. But the closer she got with her work husband, the more I fantasized about her doing the deed with him.

When did the skinny dipping and truth or dare happen in relation to the other events?
Was that more nauseating than the stage kissing?
What dares did she have to do? Were you interested to find out what dares she did?

For advise for women wanting to do this to their man, I would recommend doing what my ex did. Start slow. Make a comment about a cute waiter to see how he reacts. If you're from an area of the world that doesn't practice social kissing, give a good-looking guy a cheek kiss. If you're from a part of the world that does social kissing, plant your next one with a good-looking guy on his lips. Slap a male friend on his butt, and invite him to do the same. Gauge his reaction to that. See what his thoughts are on you taking your top off at the beach. Wear a short dress and position yourself so that his friends see your panties. Pose nude in an art studio. Take on a stage performance that involves a kiss. Openly talk about a large penis you admire in front of your man. Change your computer background to a hot guy. Don't do all of this at once, just find something you think you can get away with and go for it. Then add a little more and he'll want to pull back. Pull back for him. Prioritize him. Let him know he's #1 in your life. Then push forward a little more. Let these thoughts slowly gestate. If he opens up about it, be firm with your boundaries that he's not to do the same with another woman, even if this turns him on. Be a little selfish. Talk more about an attractive penis you saw one time, even if it was on a movie. Select a movie to watch with boobs in it, pause it and ask him about her boobs, then find a movie with an attractive penis and pause it, tell him you like his penis and describe what you admire about it. See how much further you can push him. Little by little you'll get there, and have lots of fun along the way.

I've guided women through similar steps before, I really enjoy it but other people point out that its immoral.
I can see why they think that and I do ponder the morality of it all a lot.

[hornedhubby]

IMO, the suggestions from othercuck are not immoral or manipulative.

But they are a lot more subtle and sophisticated than typical. Gets kudos from me for that.

More frequently, of course, It's the guy trying to encourage the wife. In which case, none of this would work. LOL.

[hubudig2]

Yeah, I've always found it easier to guide a woman through persuading her husband than helping a guy persuade his wife.
I think men are simpler to train in that regard, they follow their dicks, if they associate something with sexual pleasure, they'll get more and more into it.
Women have other emotions/considerations that need to be nurtured/respected, especially when it's part of a relationship.
It's one thing for me to have an understanding of that psychology but trying to help someone else manipulate that with a woman I don't know is a bigger challenge.
I wasn't accusing theothercuck of being immoral, I agree that his advice is sound.
I was more pre-empting that someone might point out that I'm being immoral.
I try to draw the line at whether I think someones intentions are good as to whether I help them or not.

[theothercuck]

1. My ex-wife did a few kisses for a short film, when we dated in college. It was a nauseating thought to me that filled me with resentment and jealousy. I was mostly envious that I didn't get to do this and she did.

I can kinda relate to this, my wife has had parts on stage that required her to kiss. I thought about it for a while before having to refuse and they had to write those parts out.
It felt petty of me but I didn't want to feel disgusted with her.

Part of me wished I had done that.

2. I wound up Googling stage kisses and read up on them constantly, this thought totally occupied my every free moment.

What were you trying to find out exactly?
Would you say that you both equally did and didn't want to find out that women got turned on by stage kissing or something?

You got it. We fought over whether or not she enjoyed the filming, and I think part of me wanted to feel nauseated, it can be chemically addictive. Part of me wanted confirmation that my suspicions were right. So I Googled various actresses confessing to enjoying it. After we got married, she admitted she was extremely aroused.

3. I would have broken up with her on the spot.

This is why some women are scared to let on that they fantasize about it.
Do you think you would say the same if you had been together for 5, 10 or more years?

I think being together for a longer period of time gave me the security to go through with it.

6. I would often masturbate to the feel of my gf's ass, and the image of another man's hands on it kept popping into my mind. I didn't pay much attention to it. My constant Googling of the concept of a sex scene with a married woman led me to a website on cuckolding. There was a response to the accusation that this makes us gay that read, "Nah, it's not about what's between another man's legs. It's about what's going between your wife's legs". I immediate put my computer down, and masturbated to the thought of her friend, a man with exceptionally large penis, having sex with my then gf.

Why were you googling a sex scene with a married woman?
Was this a hypothetical situation where your ex-wife might be required to act in a sex scene?
Does that moment thinking about her well equipped friend seem like a turning point?

It was turning point in that I realized I had a fetish for it. I mostly just kept it to myself. I was googling sex scenes because I was curious just how far I would have to go, and put myself in that mentality and questioning whether or not I could accept a situation where another man was paid to sexually enjoy my gf's body for artistic purposes while all of my friends would watch and approve of him doing this. Could I potentially be in a situation where my wife experiences high levels of sexual pleasure with another man while still expecting me to stay totally monogamous. As a burlesque dancer I've seen her make out with other man, and even touch their penises, and if I so much as pecked a female friend on the lips I would have to buy her flowers to apologize.

There was something that infatuated me about the concept of an artistic veneer that allowed for this form of public cuckolding. As soon as she got on stage, traditional monogamy gets suspended, and our friends view it as beautiful, and congratulate her for her performances, and fully expect me to compliment the man that danced with her.

7. I didn't confront the feeling all at once. I was still nauseated by her doing things like skinny dipping with guys, or playing sexy truth or dare at a summer camp she worked with. But the closer she got with her work husband, the more I fantasized about her doing the deed with him.

When did the skinny dipping and truth or dare happen in relation to the other events?
Was that more nauseating than the stage kissing?
What dares did she have to do? Were you interested to find out what dares she did?

The skinny dipping and truth or dare happened just before she cucked me, about a year after I first masturbated to the thought of it. I was in a transitional phase, where I was still fuming mad at the jealousy and not entirely grappling with my arousal over it. I hadn't yet accepted that I'm willing to stay monogamous to a non-monogamous spouse.

Most of the dares were pretty tame, like slap someone's butt. One lucky guy was dared to take her dress off with his teeth, and another had to choose a woman in a committed relationship and take her panties off.

For advise for women wanting to do this to their man, I would recommend doing what my ex did. Start slow. Make a comment about a cute waiter to see how he reacts. If you're from an area of the world that doesn't practice social kissing, give a good-looking guy a cheek kiss. If you're from a part of the world that does social kissing, plant your next one with a good-looking guy on his lips. Slap a male friend on his butt, and invite him to do the same. Gauge his reaction to that. See what his thoughts are on you taking your top off at the beach. Wear a short dress and position yourself so that his friends see your panties. Pose nude in an art studio. Take on a stage performance that involves a kiss. Openly talk about a large penis you admire in front of your man. Change your computer background to a hot guy. Don't do all of this at once, just find something you think you can get away with and go for it. Then add a little more and he'll want to pull back. Pull back for him. Prioritize him. Let him know he's #1 in your life. Then push forward a little more. Let these thoughts slowly gestate. If he opens up about it, be firm with your boundaries that he's not to do the same with another woman, even if this turns him on. Be a little selfish. Talk more about an attractive penis you saw one time, even if it was on a movie. Select a movie to watch with boobs in it, pause it and ask him about her boobs, then find a movie with an attractive penis and pause it, tell him you like his penis and describe what you admire about it. See how much further you can push him. Little by little you'll get there, and have lots of fun along the way.

I've guided women through similar steps before, I really enjoy it but other people point out that its immoral.
I can see why they think that and I do ponder the morality of it all a lot.

I can see where they're coming from, but ultimately if the husband is consenting to it I don't think it's immoral. It might not make them the wife of the year, to intentionally make their husbands jealous, but you still need to find out if he has a fetish for it, and like I said, it's close to half of men that do.

[hubudig2]

There was something that infatuated me about the concept of an artistic veneer that allowed for this form of public cuckolding. As soon as she got on stage, traditional monogamy gets suspended, and our friends view it as beautiful, and congratulate her for her performances, and fully expect me to compliment the man that danced with her.

I remember seeing your post a while back about a married actress that performed a blowjob scene in a movie and how you found it hot.
I didn't know anything else about you at the time but I remember thinking that you must've had a very specific introduction to cuckolding, a seed of an experience that grew into this fantasy that this epitomised.
It really makes sense now that those kisses in college were that seed.
I imagine you felt like you'd been exploited by this societal norm that it was ok to "cheat" if its in the name of [performing] art, that somehow it doesn't count as cheating, it doesn't mean anything and their partner should not only be ok with it but be supportive too.
I guess deep down you felt like if the roles were reversed and you got to kiss another girl in the name of art, you would've got some enjoyment from it so surely she did too.
That feeling of being helpless to some societal exploit made you question how deep this exploit runs, what else you might be expected to be supportive of. You followed it to its logical conclusion that an actress might partake in a sex scene and prepared yourself mentally for that outcome, turning yourself onto the idea in the process.
Sorry if you find it annoying to be analysed like that, I find it interesting.

I can kinda relate to this, my wife has had parts on stage that required her to kiss. I thought about it for a while before having to refuse and they had to write those parts out.
It felt petty of me but I didn't want to feel disgusted with her.

Part of me wished I had done that.

Wished? Past tense? So no regrets now?

I can see where they're coming from, but ultimately if the husband is consenting to it I don't think it's immoral.

If (hypothetically) your ex had set out to turn you on to being a willing cuckold all along, would you say that was fair game? Would you say that you made your choices and say that it's not like you were forced into anything?

[theothercuck]

There was something that infatuated me about the concept of an artistic veneer that allowed for this form of public cuckolding. As soon as she got on stage, traditional monogamy gets suspended, and our friends view it as beautiful, and congratulate her for her performances, and fully expect me to compliment the man that danced with her.

I remember seeing your post a while back about a married actress that performed a blowjob scene in a movie and how you found it hot.
I didn't know anything else about you at the time but I remember thinking that you must've had a very specific introduction to cuckolding, a seed of an experience that grew into this fantasy that this epitomised.
It really makes sense now that those kisses in college were that seed.
I imagine you felt like you'd been exploited by this societal norm that it was ok to "cheat" if its in the name of [performing] art, that somehow it doesn't count as cheating, it doesn't mean anything and their partner should not only be ok with it but be supportive too.
I guess deep down you felt like if the roles were reversed and you got to kiss another girl in the name of art, you would've got some enjoyment from it so surely she did too.
That feeling of being helpless to some societal exploit made you question how deep this exploit runs, what else you might be expected to be supportive of. You followed it to its logical conclusion that an actress might partake in a sex scene and prepared yourself mentally for that outcome, turning yourself onto the idea in the process.
Sorry if you find it annoying to be analysed like that, I find it interesting.

No, I don't find it annoying at all. I rather enjoy analyzing Kerry Fox's husband (she's the actress that performed the blow job, which he watched and wrote about as a journalist). The public nature of his cuckolding allows us to do it and invites us to do so. It's over two decades later and it still defines him.

I can kinda relate to this, my wife has had parts on stage that required her to kiss. I thought about it for a while before having to refuse and they had to write those parts out.
It felt petty of me but I didn't want to feel disgusted with her.

Part of me wished I had done that.

Wished? Past tense? So no regrets now?

Prior to becoming aroused I had regrets about it, after becoming aroused I like to think about it.

I can see where they're coming from, but ultimately if the husband is consenting to it I don't think it's immoral.

If (hypothetically) your ex had set out to turn you on to being a willing cuckold all along, would you say that was fair game? Would you say that you made your choices and say that it's not like you were forced into anything?

I think we all have an endgame and work toward it. If her endgame was to enter into a half open marriage (open for her, and not for me), and she succeeded at it, just not telling me, I think that's moral. We all have our fantasies and it would be counterproductive to announce them from the start.

[theothercuck]

There was something that infatuated me about the concept of an artistic veneer that allowed for this form of public cuckolding. As soon as she got on stage, traditional monogamy gets suspended, and our friends view it as beautiful, and congratulate her for her performances, and fully expect me to compliment the man that danced with her.

I remember seeing your post a while back about a married actress that performed a blowjob scene in a movie and how you found it hot.
I didn't know anything else about you at the time but I remember thinking that you must've had a very specific introduction to cuckolding, a seed of an experience that grew into this fantasy that this epitomised.
It really makes sense now that those kisses in college were that seed.
I imagine you felt like you'd been exploited by this societal norm that it was ok to "cheat" if its in the name of [performing] art, that somehow it doesn't count as cheating, it doesn't mean anything and their partner should not only be ok with it but be supportive too.
I guess deep down you felt like if the roles were reversed and you got to kiss another girl in the name of art, you would've got some enjoyment from it so surely she did too.
That feeling of being helpless to some societal exploit made you question how deep this exploit runs, what else you might be expected to be supportive of. You followed it to its logical conclusion that an actress might partake in a sex scene and prepared yourself mentally for that outcome, turning yourself onto the idea in the process.
Sorry if you find it annoying to be analysed like that, I find it interesting.

No, I don't find it annoying at all. I rather enjoy analyzing Kerry Fox's husband (she's the actress that performed the blow job, which he watched and wrote about as a journalist). The public nature of his cuckolding allows us to do it and invites us to do so. It's over two decades later and it still defines him. For the rest of his life he will be discussed and analyzed as a cuckold.

I can kinda relate to this, my wife has had parts on stage that required her to kiss. I thought about it for a while before having to refuse and they had to write those parts out.
It felt petty of me but I didn't want to feel disgusted with her.

Part of me wished I had done that.

Wished? Past tense? So no regrets now?

Prior to becoming aroused I had regrets about it, after becoming aroused I like to think about it.

I can see where they're coming from, but ultimately if the husband is consenting to it I don't think it's immoral.

If (hypothetically) your ex had set out to turn you on to being a willing cuckold all along, would you say that was fair game? Would you say that you made your choices and say that it's not like you were forced into anything?

I think we all have an endgame and work toward it. If her endgame was to enter into a half open marriage (open for her, and not for me), and she succeeded at it, just not telling me, I think that's moral. We all have our fantasies and it would be counterproductive to announce them from the start.

[hubudig2]

Fast forward quite a few years and I got diabetes and lost the ability to stay hard long enough for penetration but she was ok with that. After a couple years of fantasy about another man I suggested we try mmf again. She agreed and we went looking. It wasn't until I was in a cuckold chat because there was no other place I could find to look and I also laughed at the cuckold guys because I've always been an alpha male. Finally my wife says you know your cuck right? I was shocked until we discussed it in great detail and I had no choice but to agree she was right. Since then I've learned to embrace it. I like knowing my place and being whatever they want me to be.

I've chatted with many guys that were heading towards cuckolding for all sorts of reasons but I don't recall talking to anyone coming to terms with it for medical reasons before. I'm not sure why that is, maybe guys in that situation don't feel the need to consult with someone other than their wife about it? I'm sure all kinds of related conversations are had about it as a couple and so there isn't that secrecy that comes with getting into it from other angles.
theothercuck quoted that 57% of men are aroused by the idea and I've got no reason to disagree with that. I think if you conducted a study, forcing a random sample of men to watch their wives fuck other men, probably 57% of them would be aroused despite other emotions.
Yet, I think the percentage of men that are capable of being aroused by it is much higher and the medical/disability angle is what leads me to think that.
I wouldn't put myself in that 57% that would get aroused, my mind won't even allow me to think about my wife with another man in an erotic way, it's like there's some mental block, my mind swaps out my wife for another woman or the man for me, I'm not sure if anyone understands what I mean.
However, watching my wife on her knees with her lips stretched around my cock, worshipping it like it gives her more pleasure than it does me is the most satisfying thing I can think of seeing. It's something that I regularly NEED to see and I'm grateful that I can have her submit to me like that and that my cock is big enough to satisfy her but also my desire to see her with it. Watching POV blowjob porn is unsatisfying when their cocks are smaller than my own but my wife couldn't handle anything bigger so it's not a consideration.
I've considered what might happen if I were to become unable to self-satisfy that need anymore for medical reasons or similar. If I'm honest with myself, I think that my "need" to see that might outweigh my repulsion for the idea of her with another man. It's not something I can or want to imagine but more of a logical conclusion and it does scare me.

It's interesting that you didn't consider that you would be a cuck in the proposed "mmf" for the first couple of years. Why do you think that was?
How did it feel to accept that?
How did your wife feel about it?
Did your sexual dynamic with your wife change as a result?

[isinlarsa]

It never occurred to me that I would be turned on by other men fucking my wife. My conversion came in stages. The first stage was when my wife proposed that we swap with a couple we were friends with. Although I was shocked by her proposal, my dick spoke for me, and said that I would love to fuck the other wife.

Having done that for a while, I discovered that it was exciting to hear her talk about how she was fucked. Also, she was always into oral sex, and she got me to go down on her after she had been fucked.

The next step was when she started an affair with a co-worker. Shortly after it started, she confessed it to me. Rather than being angry I found I was turned on. I realized I was aroused that other men were enjoying my wife's body. That's when we agreed she could continue to be fucked by him.

[Flcuck4herand]

Fast forward quite a few years and I got diabetes and lost the ability to stay hard long enough for penetration but she was ok with that. After a couple years of fantasy about another man I suggested we try mmf again. She agreed and we went looking. It wasn't until I was in a cuckold chat because there was no other place I could find to look and I also laughed at the cuckold guys because I've always been an alpha male. Finally my wife says you know your cuck right? I was shocked until we discussed it in great detail and I had no choice but to agree she was right. Since then I've learned to embrace it. I like knowing my place and being whatever they want me to be.

I've chatted with many guys that were heading towards cuckolding for all sorts of reasons but I don't recall talking to anyone coming to terms with it for medical reasons before. I'm not sure why that is, maybe guys in that situation don't feel the need to consult with someone other than their wife about it? I'm sure all kinds of related conversations are had about it as a couple and so there isn't that secrecy that comes with getting into it from other angles.
theothercuck quoted that 57% of men are aroused by the idea and I've got no reason to disagree with that. I think if you conducted a study, forcing a random sample of men to watch their wives fuck other men, probably 57% of them would be aroused despite other emotions.
Yet, I think the percentage of men that are capable of being aroused by it is much higher and the medical/disability angle is what leads me to think that.
I wouldn't put myself in that 57% that would get aroused, my mind won't even allow me to think about my wife with another man in an erotic way, it's like there's some mental block, my mind swaps out my wife for another woman or the man for me, I'm not sure if anyone understands what I mean.
However, watching my wife on her knees with her lips stretched around my cock, worshipping it like it gives her more pleasure than it does me is the most satisfying thing I can think of seeing. It's something that I regularly NEED to see and I'm grateful that I can have her submit to me like that and that my cock is big enough to satisfy her but also my desire to see her with it. Watching POV blowjob porn is unsatisfying when their cocks are smaller than my own but my wife couldn't handle anything bigger so it's not a consideration.
I've considered what might happen if I were to become unable to self-satisfy that need anymore for medical reasons or similar. If I'm honest with myself, I think that my "need" to see that might outweigh my repulsion for the idea of her with another man. It's not something I can or want to imagine but more of a logical conclusion and it does scare me.

It's interesting that you didn't consider that you would be a cuck in the proposed "mmf" for the first couple of years. Why do you think that was?
How did it feel to accept that?
How did your wife feel about it?
Did your sexual dynamic with your wife change as a result?

Lots to answer there but I was always more sub in the bedroom and she more domme. When we first met we were both bi and wanted to be with a bi couple that we could swap or whatever. That was extremely hard to find and we wound up having a mff and a couple mmf then left the LS for 20 years. Our bedroom fantasy evolved into her being fucked as I helped and then got me fucked as well. In retrospect the fantasy was actually as a cuck. To accept that I'm a cuck was a shock at first but then became natural. Now understand ours is not like many other relationships in here. My wife doesn't date. We only play together and our 3rd has to be a bi top. The way she felt about it? I'd say she embraced it rather quickly.
Our dynamic only changed in that I would always have access to her pussy with my mouth and hands but only other men can put their cock inside her. I am very Alpha outside of the bedroom and was like you at one time that I was the guy period. I can't make you understand why I or any cuck can get to this point except to say it's very erotic and I want her pleasure over mine.

[hubudig2]

I am very Alpha outside of the bedroom and was like you at one time that I was the guy period. I can't make you understand why I or any cuck can get to this point except to say it's very erotic and I want her pleasure over mine.

I can actually believe that cuckolds may get more "pleasure" being cuckolded than they did from the regular sex they had before they got into it.
I've chatted with so many people with all different backstories, guys that were bulls before, guys that fucked so many beautiful women when they were younger but they always gloss over that and want to reminisce about the times their wives were dirty sluts and rubbed their faces in it.
I can't personally "feel" what that kind of arousal is like but I feel like I have an understanding of it.

It seems like the "transition period" can be harsh but after that, providing the wife is willing, it sounds like a rollercoaster ride.
I always assume it to be similar to how I used to find olives disgusting There was a bar I used to go to that would put out bowls of olives and I would eat them because I was hungry, they were free and they were put right in front of me but I hated the little slimy salt balls. After a couple of weeks of eating them every night, I still hated them but I started to "like" the horrible sensation they gave me until eventually I loved them. They still taste like little slimy salt balls but I've learned to like that.

Anyway... to go back to the question of whether it's morally wrong to push a guy through that process, it would seem like if the wife is prepared to satisfy his new kink, you could argue she would be doing him and their relationship a favour?

[albs19922]

I’m a “wannabe” here, still working up the courage to perhaps bring up the fantasy with my fiancee. I think it’s interesting the approach you’re taking because if she brought it up first that would be wonderful.
1. I first heard of cuckolding about 9 years ago. I wasn’t disgusted, I just thought it was odd and didn’t give it much thought at all.
2. Not exactly. I didn’t think about cuckolding much at all. That said, I did fantasize about her with others although not necessarily in cuckolding scenarios- more hotwifing, which I am also interested in but I didn’t know what it was.
3. If she hinted back then I would have played with the fantasy. Now I definitely would.
4. Came across main stream articles like on CNN, and started to research more. I realized it described what I was actually into in my fantasies.
5. No idea, but probably higher than what any survey would show given it is still taboo.
6. Bit of both. The thought is unshakeable, but I definitely make a conscious choice to think about it.
7. No
8. I’ve fantasized and read up on cuckolding and hotwifing both for about 5 or 6 years now. I’ve known it was my thing since I started to understand it better.

[hubudig2]

I think it’s interesting the approach you’re taking because if she brought it up first that would be wonderful.

It's frustrating because there are plenty of married women that want it, for good reasons too (there are plenty more that have more selfish reasons). Most of them just can't believe that any guy could genuinely be into it and especially not their husband.

Sometimes when I've spoken to couples about general sex/kink, the wife has confessed secret extramarital desires and/or experiences to me (in confidence) and I feel that if I just pasted that conversation to the husband, he would (without realising) be stroking his dick by the end of it. Sure, his heart would be racing and he might feel a bit nauseous but those thoughts would eat away at him until he found himself wanting it.
I don't betray that trust though.

When I've done surveys of married women (not on this forum or anywhere sex related) about 50% of them said they would fuck other guys if their husband was ok with it. I'm sure it's easier for them to say that when they don't think it would happen though.

1. I first heard of cuckolding about 9 years ago. I wasn’t disgusted, I just thought it was odd and didn’t give it much thought at all.
2. Not exactly. I didn’t think about cuckolding much at all. That said, I did fantasize about her with others although not necessarily in cuckolding scenarios- more hotwifing, which I am also interested in but I didn’t know what it was.

So would you say that you never thought you could be into cuckolding specifically? But hotwifing has always been a fantasy?

still working up the courage to perhaps bring up the fantasy with my fiancee

I hope that goes well for you. I'm happy to chat if you need anything.

[emca753]

TL;DR: Guys that previously thought there was absolutely no way they could ever be turned on by the thought of being cuckolded:
1. Why did you think (back then) that you couldn't be turned on by the idea? Was it a disgusting thought or jealousy?
2. Did you ever think about it in any detail (to know that it didn't turn you on) before you were turned on by it?
3. If a wife/gf had hinted back then that she was turned on by the idea, how do you think you would've reacted? Might you have played along with her fantasy at all?
4. What caused your first realisation that you were into it? How did it feel?
5. What percentage of guys would you guess would have the same realisation given that situation?
6. The first time you masturbated to the idea, was it a conscious choice (to think about your wife/gf being fucked) or was it an unshakeable thought?
7. Did you think the idea would pass? That it would lose it's appeal over time?
8. How long did it take from first realisation to masturbation, to accepting it was your thing?

Background:
I've chatted with a few monogamous wives that are turned on by the idea of cuckolding but are so absolutely convinced their husbands wouldn't entertain the idea that they won't even suggest it to them. I've had a couple of success stories where I've managed to convince wives/gfs to pursue the idea successfully but most will outright refuse to even try because they think it would never happen in a million years.
I understand why they think that, even when men are into it, women don't believe them, it is a counter-intuitive kink.
I'd be interested to hear more angles from guys that previously thought it was unthinkable, I believe most guys can be into this.
Thanks

Sonja was getting chatted up by the boy next door who rode a Suzuji and as his visits became more frequent I started thinking about them together; my first masturbatory experience over this was when she bought a helmet