Cuckold Hierarchy

[caged_cuck12]

Hello everyone,

I am just curious to understand whether a cuckold hierarchy exists from perspectives of all those involved in the lifestyle. For instance, is a cuck who isn't caged and is allowed to watch and participate considered a level above a cuck who is locked and is limited to cleanups.

A variety of cuckold kinks exist, and it is highly likely that relationship dynamics vary basis how hotwives and bulls perceive cuckolds, so an unspoken hierarchy must exist eh ?

Cheers!

[trecital]

so an unspoken hierarchy must exist eh ?

If it's "unspoken" then how do you know it exists?

[sml_peterBR]

What would be the purpose of this hiearchy? How would people know the dynamic of other couples / cucks?

[emca753]

Hello everyone,

I am just curious to understand whether a cuckold hierarchy exists from perspectives of all those involved in the lifestyle. For instance, is a cuck who isn't caged and is allowed to watch and participate considered a level above a cuck who is locked and is limited to cleanups.

A variety of cuckold kinks exist, and it is highly likely that relationship dynamics vary basis how hotwives and bulls perceive cuckolds, so an unspoken hierarchy must exist eh ?

Cheers!

To me there are unknowing cuckolds, unwilling cuckolds tolerant cuckolds and willing cuckolds

[hubudig2]

(I am massively generalising here, no offense is intended, I know this doesn't fit everyone)
I see it more like a slippery slope of shame and being in-denial.
I think people look at people further down the slope and feel some justification about their situation because they're not as far down the slope as those others and feel like they never will be. Where they are is a reasonable limit, any further would be shameful.
Meanwhile, thoughts about the things people further down the slope do eat away at them and tempt them further down the slope. It might start only when they are peak horny, like involuntary fantasies as they are about to cum. They'll brush it off and try not to dwell on it. Eventually those involuntary fantasies become more regular, it feels especially good to indulge in thinking about them and they become semi-voluntary fantasies.
At some point the denial reaches a breaking point, they give in and accept they've slipped further, they feel shame but with it comes great pleasure.

To give examples, there are guys that are turned on by the thought of their wives with other men. They may have wrestled with that notion or maybe not but they come to the conclusion that they might like to try an mfm threesome or swinging. They'll find a way to justify that it's just extra pleasure for them, they're not missing out on anything and their wife will enjoy it equally. They've probably heard about hotwifing but consider that to be the wife having her cake and eating it, they don't see that they should miss out on participating.
At some point they may find themselves mesmerised by watching their wife getting fucked, their focus will eventually shift to that until they are essentially hotwifing. At this point they justify it that they're still equal to (not submissive to) their wife, they just enjoy seeing the pleasure she gets from other guys. When they hear about cuckolding, they might dismiss it as men who have bi tendencies and claim they don't enjoy humiliation but they see humiliation as being verbal degradation.
Their hotwifing might lead to enjoying sloppy seconds but that's ok because they don't think of it as another man's cum, it's just their wife's extra warm and wet pussy. They might choose more and more dominant men with bigger cocks, this isn't humiliation, it's just because they enjoy seeing how much more pleasure their wife gets from it. They might get the urge to take part in fucklicking, but again, it's not humiliation or submission, they're just getting closer to the action.
The wife might start to take control of who she sees but this is just hot to see her so keen to enjoy his fantasy. She might choose to see guys that aren't interested in having her husband around. Feeling left out they might like to prepare the wife for her dates, this isn't submissive, this is just sharing the experience with her. When she returns, they'll want to hear all about her lover's prowess, how big his cock was, how long he lasted, how hard he fucked her, how many times he filled her with cum. This isn't humiliation, he just enjoys sharing her experience. These stories might be told while she strokes his cock but over time 69 might become more satisfying until the point where she comes home and jumps straight on his face while she tells him all about it but its ok because she showered, absolutely no cum survives the shower.
Sometimes the thought of her being full of cum enters his mind while he's going down on her and makes it hotter, if she's stroking his cock when he thinks about it he'll shoot his load but he would never eat a creampie for real, that'd be bi/gross.
One day she comes home unshowered, they lay on the bed and she reveals some details of her encounter before she heads to the shower but he gets horny, she can sense that he's tempted to go down on her unshowered, the idea turns her on too, she squats over his face jokingly, he protests but she now can't resist the urge and forces her pussy against his mouth, she grabs his head and he instinctively licks her pussy, she cums hard, forcing cum into his mouth. This was just a moment of weakness, there probably wasn't any actual cum, that was probably all absorbed on the journey home. She wasn't humiliating him or asserting dominance, it was just some fooling around.
One day after watching a hung stud empty his balls into his wife, she beckons him over, he finds himself going over to her, he looks at her, legs spread, freshly fucked pussy, cum seeping out of her, she doesn't have to say anything, he knows what to do.

Ok, this got out of hand, it wasn't my intention to write all that, it was supposed to just be a couple of examples. I don't half write some shit sometimes and it annoys me that I changed from "they" to "he" at some point ah, whatever, I'll leave it in.

Anyway... I think this applies to most forms of submission.
I'm sure people will remember girls back when they were virgins claim that they would never suck a cock or never sleep with a guy they weren't in a relationship with or sleep with a guy on a first date etc. Any girl that would do those things is a slut. Most end up slipping down the slope and it's enjoyable for everyone involved.
My wife was one of those that claimed she would never suck a cock, she didn't with her previous 6 boyfriends and claimed she never would and would never want to, "it's gross and animalistic, girls don't actually enjoy it, they just do it to please the guy".
Watching her give into that newly experienced urge with me and swallowing before heading back to her boyfriend was one of my hottest moments.

[surry]

(I am massively generalising here, no offense is intended, I know this doesn't fit everyone)
I see it more like a slippery slope of shame and being in-denial.
I think people look at people further down the slope and feel some justification about their situation because they're not as far down the slope as those others and feel like they never will be. Where they are is a reasonable limit, any further would be shameful.
Meanwhile, thoughts about the things people further down the slope do eat away at them and tempt them further down the slope. It might start only when they are peak horny, like involuntary fantasies as they are about to cum. They'll brush it off and try not to dwell on it. Eventually those involuntary fantasies become more regular, it feels especially good to indulge in thinking about them and they become semi-voluntary fantasies.
At some point the denial reaches a breaking point, they give in and accept they've slipped further, they feel shame but with it comes great pleasure.

To give examples, there are guys that are turned on by the thought of their wives with other men. They may have wrestled with that notion or maybe not but they come to the conclusion that they might like to try an mfm threesome or swinging. They'll find a way to justify that it's just extra pleasure for them, they're not missing out on anything and their wife will enjoy it equally. They've probably heard about hotwifing but consider that to be the wife having her cake and eating it, they don't see that they should miss out on participating.
At some point they may find themselves mesmerised by watching their wife getting fucked, their focus will eventually shift to that until they are essentially hotwifing. At this point they justify it that they're still equal to (not submissive to) their wife, they just enjoy seeing the pleasure she gets from other guys. When they hear about cuckolding, they might dismiss it as men who have bi tendencies and claim they don't enjoy humiliation but they see humiliation as being verbal degradation.
Their hotwifing might lead to enjoying sloppy seconds but that's ok because they don't think of it as another man's cum, it's just their wife's extra warm and wet pussy. They might choose more and more dominant men with bigger cocks, this isn't humiliation, it's just because they enjoy seeing how much more pleasure their wife gets from it. They might get the urge to take part in fucklicking, but again, it's not humiliation or submission, they're just getting closer to the action.
The wife might start to take control of who she sees but this is just hot to see her so keen to enjoy his fantasy. She might choose to see guys that aren't interested in having her husband around. Feeling left out they might like to prepare the wife for her dates, this isn't submissive, this is just sharing the experience with her. When she returns, they'll want to hear all about her lover's prowess, how big his cock was, how long he lasted, how hard he fucked her, how many times he filled her with cum. This isn't humiliation, he just enjoys sharing her experience. These stories might be told while she strokes his cock but over time 69 might become more satisfying until the point where she comes home and jumps straight on his face while she tells him all about it but its ok because she showered, absolutely no cum survives the shower.
Sometimes the thought of her being full of cum enters his mind while he's going down on her and makes it hotter, if she's stroking his cock when he thinks about it he'll shoot his load but he would never eat a creampie for real, that'd be bi/gross.
One day she comes home unshowered, they lay on the bed and she reveals some details of her encounter before she heads to the shower but he gets horny, she can sense that he's tempted to go down on her unshowered, the idea turns her on too, she squats over his face jokingly, he protests but she now can't resist the urge and forces her pussy against his mouth, she grabs his head and he instinctively licks her pussy, she cums hard, forcing cum into his mouth. This was just a moment of weakness, there probably wasn't any actual cum, that was probably all absorbed on the journey home. She wasn't humiliating him or asserting dominance, it was just some fooling around.
One day after watching a hung stud empty his balls into his wife, she beckons him over, he finds himself going over to her, he looks at her, legs spread, freshly fucked pussy, cum seeping out of her, she doesn't have to say anything, he knows what to do.

Ok, this got out of hand, it wasn't my intention to write all that, it was supposed to just be a couple of examples. I don't half write some shit sometimes and it annoys me that I changed from "they" to "he" at some point ah, whatever, I'll leave it in.

Anyway... I think this applies to most forms of submission.
I'm sure people will remember girls back when they were virgins claim that they would never suck a cock or never sleep with a guy they weren't in a relationship with or sleep with a guy on a first date etc. Any girl that would do those things is a slut. Most end up slipping down the slope and it's enjoyable for everyone involved.
My wife was one of those that claimed she would never suck a cock, she didn't with her previous 6 boyfriends and claimed she never would and would never want to, "it's gross and animalistic, girls don't actually enjoy it, they just do it to please the guy".
Watching her give into that newly experienced urge with me and swallowing before heading back to her boyfriend was one of my hottest moments.

Well written. We all have different levels we will go to. My wife is shy and a church lady. But get her turned on she will do most anything. I then feel guilty afterwards. Reading Female Led Marriage books, they have different levels a couple can do. How much control each couple work out together.
My wife and my best friend would kiss in front of me. They never touched under the clothes. My wife was kissing him goodbye and I walked up behind her and pressed against her and started rubbing her ass. She got turned on being between to men. I reached around and cupped her tits then opened her blouse up. I pulled her bra up. My wife was so turned on she loved it. Before this she would say "We are just kissing." After this my BF and her would fuck.

[Johor]

The saddest of all are the wannabee cuck with monogamous wives.

[trecital]

I see it more like a slippery slope of shame and being in-denial.
I think people look at people further down the slope and feel some justification about their situation because they're not as far down the slope as those others and feel like they never will be.

I don't want to comment on the rest of what you said (I don't particularly agree or disagree), but I would just question your imagery of cucks going down a slippery slope.

I'd rather imagine it as 'ascending a small mountain', where the excitement and arousal are at a higher level.

[little sissy Benita]

Every cuckold relationship/marriage is different

little Benita

[FeralCat]

I know that when my wife has me caged during her rendezvous her boyfriends look at me with more confidence in themselves and their status as the uncontested Alpha in the relationship. And that usually comes out with their attitude towards her. That's when I hear things like "Who owns your pussy?" or "Who's your daddy?" and the like. Plus she's more likely to be treated a little more roughly like spanked a bit or held down as she's 'helplessly' being pounded.

When she uncages me before they arrive, they usually see me more as an equal and generally expect a threesum. She loves both outcomes.

[canadianwittol]

I attended a party a couple of summers ago which has been described elsewhere on this forum; in attendance were 8 cuckolds with their wives. The party was in a large mansion arranged for the event and the wives and bulls mingled in one room while the cuckolds were left to converse in the other.

Overall, I was deeply impressed with the other cuckolds I met: an airline pilot, an engineer, a very highly placed (backroom) political figure, and the others all of fairly comparable pedigree. It was an impressive group of men. At the party, everyone stripped down to underwear upon entering the lobby of the home, which served as a sort of anteroom to the rest of the party. Our wives had carefully selected very sexy lingerie and the bulls for the most part wore what were obviously very nice boxer shorts.

Of the 8 cuckolds sat the table, 3 of us wore women's panties. A number wore chastity devices. Some were just wearing regular men's boxers as well.

In this environment you would have thought that we might be segregated out on the above distinctions, but this was not the case. In fact, over the course of the evening in which everything was discussed from current affairs to history to travel, cuckolds comfortable and without any sense of shame compared notes on how long they had been in chastity, for those to whom that was applicable, and which stores and brands of women's underwear were most comfortable for those of us to whom that applied. A number of my fellow cuckolds genuinely complimented me on my panties.

So for whatever it is worth, in my (admittedly, limited) experience with other cuckolds I found the group dynamic, while ripe for a sense of "hierarchy" to prevail, to in fact be entirely egalitarian and non judgemental. Thats a small sample size on which to base, but my experience thus far has been extremely positive. I think it's something we're really all in together, acknowledging that there are different "flavours" of the cuckolding lifestyle.

[funkyfitter]

My wife determined our hierarchy.
We have a deep love for one another, but in sexual matters, it's her, whoever she's with, then me.

[wulfenus]

Good stuff !

I see it more like a slippery slope of shame and being in-denial.
I think people look at people further down the slope and feel some justification about their situation because they're not as far down the slope as those others and feel like they never will be. Where they are is a reasonable limit, any further would be shameful.

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[wulfenus]

I always say i'm cuckold-lite haha, humilititon is too strong a word, i think but really that is what it is, i feel there are different levels. i try to say humbling etc. i also don't want to be thought of as being say, bad at sex, just that the other guy is better, maybe just that one time, but it happened.

my fantasie of it all is my wife/gf is somewhat reluctant, seduced, talked into it, makes a naughty decision on a hot day, i love that aspect, but then thoroughly enjoys the event.

[Johor]

I am at the bottom of the hierarchy. A cuck wannabe with a monogamous wife. Pity me!

[hubudig2]

I see it more like a slippery slope of shame and being in-denial.
I think people look at people further down the slope and feel some justification about their situation because they're not as far down the slope as those others and feel like they never will be.

I don't want to comment on the rest of what you said (I don't particularly agree or disagree), but I would just question your imagery of cucks going down a slippery slope.

I'd rather imagine it as 'ascending a small mountain', where the excitement and arousal are at a higher level.

Good point, it depends on your frame of reference but that makes for a really complicated analogy
It's like the opposite of the grass being greener on the other side, instead wherever you sit seems greenest.
You pity those on the side you came from because you've been there and know it's more thrilling where you currently are but you also pity those on the other side and can't comprehend why they would've gone there.
And then the grass is also slippery and on a hill... lol forget it...

I can honestly believe that being a cuckold is more enjoyable, like 99% of everyone I talk to attest to it.
Yet no matter how enjoyable it could possibly be, no part of me wants it and that always seems fascinating to me.

[elina]

My wife determined our hierarchy.
We have a deep love for one another, but in sexual matters, it's her, whoever she's with, then me.

That would be my ideal situation as well,
in particular my Wife assuming Her proper place in our marriage and demanding my complete submission to Her.

Sincerely
elina

[Anthony57]

My wife is in total charge in our marriage full stop.
She makes all the decisions.
I just do as told.
I have to say it has been that way for a long time and i would not have it any other way.

[Cdncuck]

I've been a cuckold for over 30 years. I know other cuckolds. I've never heard anyone mention this particular topic. It likely doesn't exist because it would require some sort of organization to make the rules.