Still a chance with conservative wife...maybe.

[AZguy425]

Hello all! I've been lurking for the past couple of months and have loved reading the progressions and angsts of many of you. It is definitely a world of success and failure! I have had successes in past relationships, but in my current and lasting relationship with my wife I have a lot of room for hope, but also some clear signals that I may be stuck here in the Wannabe section for a while! I thought I would share with you all and get your thoughts!

I'm 51m and my wife is 44f. Her name is Kristen. I met her 10 years ago and I was single while she was married. She was in a unique marriage that was failing and her husband had not touched her or fucked her for almost two years. She looks 10 years younger than she is, light brown shoulder length hair, 5'6, 130lbs, perky boobs that she things are too small, fantastic legs, exercises regularly....so it was not a physical issue that prevented her from getting laid with her husband. She is pretty conservative but two years without sex had been too much. She had even picked up a stranger at a bar and followed him to his house where she fully intended to go inside and get fucked finally but hesitated and left before getting to his house. The thought of an untouched pussy for two years was too much for me to pass up at the time and I seduced her and fucked her. Then I fucked her again and within days she had initiated a divorce and we slowly built a relationship which grew and stayed strong.

I've had a kink for wanting women I dated to be sexual and able to be seduced by others. I guess I would say I like them to give in to temptation now and again. I've never been into many of the aspects of a traditional cuck or hotwife relationship and don't get complaints from them for performance in bed. I also don't want them to have a traditional relationship with a bull that is a long-term thing. I've been in an open marriage and I've had girlfriends who were very susceptible to temptation which they found met with my approval. But my relationship with Kristen is different and she's given me signs that it is possible, but many that it isn't over the years and it is hard to tell what to make of it! I'll kind of try and catalog those here without getting too wordy:

1. When we first got together I was leery about the "rebound" aspect and wanted a more concrete relationship with her so I subtly suggested that if she wanted to play around a little I understood that. She never did and I never straight up told her at that time I actually wanted her to or that I wanted to see it.

2. I told her early that I was interested in a MFM threesome with us taking turns on her. She was open-minded in listening to it and did not say no, but eventually a year or so later said that she would do almost anything I wanted her to do, but that she did not think she could let me watch her get fucked by another guy.

3. Several years back she went on a week-long work trip out of state. One night she did not text me until late in the evening and said that she had been talking to the chair of the professional board she had just been elected to in her field. Her last night there a female coworker and her went out and she ended up dancing with a guy trying to pick her up. She said she enjoyed flirting and could tell his cock was getting hard when they were dancing. When she told me this she said she had to stop drinking because that could "lead to bad decisions". I told her that was too bad because I liked her making bad decisions and she responded with, "Well, I didn't know that was an option!"

4. During sex since, I try not to bring up other guys except occasionally because I want her to make her own decision, but when I have she has admitted that if she had kept drinking things might have gone farther on her work trip with the guy at the bar. In one instance, I suggested she had lots of opportunities because she was up with her colleague a few nights before and she got this weird look on her face like she had done something or she was on the verge of saying something. This could be projection or in the heat of passion too. In a third instance while I was fucking her I asked her if she fantasized about fucking a stranger and she blurted out "YES" and then quickly said, I mean "no". When I talk about her doing this she gets extremely wet and more vocal that with our typical sex.

5. At a couple of points not during sex when we are dirty talking she has suggested that maybe the best route would be to "hire" a guy so there is no connection. She also suggested I should find a guy vaguely. She has said at my request that she will be open to getting picked up when out of town on a work trip or somewhere away from our area if the circumstances were right.

6. A couple of weeks ago while making out, I asked her if her if my fantasy to have her fuck another man bothered her and she said that she liked that I had fantasies, but that she would feel uncomfortable if I were there. I told her I was fine with her doing it away and on the spur of the moment. She reiterated that she didn't mind my fantasy but that it would "never happen".

So that's it! A lot of clues that it could happen. A lot of clues that it will never happen. And a few vague clues that it may have happened once already! My guess is I will be in this forum for the foreseeable future!

[Colliercuck]

Thankyou for sharing, great start, and it’s great that you can share and be honest
Seems like she’s open to it, and that seed usually grows….especially when they know it’s available to them.
Curious, how did you seduce her??? I would love for a guy to seduce my wife.
She had known about my cuckold desires and panty wearing for over 25 years, and has always said she would never do it.
She would tease me about boyfriends, size and not making her cum.
Then she had an 8 month long affair, and she told me that it only ended because he moved away

[AZguy425]

As you can imagine, after two years it didn't take much to seduce her. I met her in our work field and as we talked I basically said her pussy after two years with no sex was tempting. That was pretty much it! I'm sure if I hadn't stumbled into her it wouldn't have been too much longer and a stranger in a pub would've pounded her out in the back seat of his car. The desperation was real.

[parklife]

2. I told her early that I was interested in a MFM threesome with us taking turns on her. She was open-minded in listening to it and did not say no, but eventually a year or so later said that she would do almost anything I wanted her to do, but that she did not think she could let me watch her get fucked by another guy.

So that's it! A lot of clues that it could happen. A lot of clues that it will never happen. And a few vague clues that it may have happened once already! My guess is I will be in this forum for the foreseeable future!

So… my take is that you fall into the “wife is open and willing but needs the right situation to come along”. So it’s about her finding herself in the possible right situation often enough that there is a possibility the right guy comes along.

I left #2 there because to me it’s an obvious re-intro into the conversation although you may not even need it based on some of the later points. I could easily see a conversation some night and n the couch or in the bedroom: “remember when we talked about that MFM fantasy I had but you don’t think you could ever have me watch you with another guy? What if watching isn’t part of the deal?” And away you go…

But all in all, sounds like she just needs right time, right place, right guy. You can help with right place.. that’s really about finding places to meet potential guys that could me the right fit…. the gym, at an activity she enjoys doing (running, boating, dancing, even shopping), sounds like she travels a bit for work. It always amazing me the guys that want to encourage their wives to be a hotwife but never do anything other than sit in their homes. How is she supposed to meet anyone even interesting like that? Many women have zero interest in using apps or websites.

[AZguy425]

We get out plenty and there's plenty of opportunity to meet someone for her. She is in a semi public mind of job and several rungs up the ladder at that, so she's much more comfortable with the idea of a one time thing on a trip or away from the general area we live in. So there's opportunity, it just isn't frequent. My main role is think is to do all i can to make her feel she has that freedom when those chances come up.

[hornedhubby]

I'd suggest you wait for her next trip and be as invitational and encouraging as possible as she prepares for it. Help her with selecting her clothes, give her some condoms for her luggage, talk about what might happen. Have fun with it and don't push.