Young married guy here

[KevKev]

I am a bit concerned. I always assumed she could keep this part of her life a secret like I do but maybe she finds it a bit overwhelming. This is very new for her and she is going in blind. I hope she can keep this thing a secret forever.

You have this board to discuss with people and process your feelings. She doesn't. She's having this new and interesting experience and can't really talk to anyone about it. She just needs to be careful about who she is discussing it with. How would you feel about going public with all of it?

[Cuckcuckgoose1]

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Folks, I also got an email making me responsible for some architectural decisions for a new project. I won't have a lot of time. I feel like the three of us settled into an comfortable rhythm. I am also actually going to take my sleep meds as I haven't had a good night's sleep in a long time. I will probably give you folks only weekly updates or if anything major happens.

Thanks a lot for being with me during this journey and guiding me through it. After reading a lot of replies here and some PMs, I realize how fortunate I am and get to experience what a few of you could only dream about.
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Danny thanks for sharing your story with us. At this point it doesn't make sense to update us every time she goes down to him if it's the same routine over and over. You don't owe us anything. Major milestones yes like anything different or maybe a new man in her life. Pictures and videos would be worth posting as well but that is up to you and Lauren. Most people here don't. Good luck with the new responsibilities and always look forward to your posts.

[wannabecUKold]

Thanks as ever, Danny.

One can feel the separation, the distance between Lauren and Adam: “A: did you miss me? L: No”. And no, she didn’t want to squirt, which requires a real closeness and involvement. So that is good, since we want her to get sex from Adam, not fall for him.

Good answer Danny re the sleeping question!

PS You could now ask Adam whose underwear the Calvin Kleins are: “Jason’s? Stepfather’s? Yours?! Oh. Bit gay for you, aren’t they, Adam?”

[jeffx]

I'd still love to see what happens if you tell them both you're taking a sleeping pill (and tell Lauren you really are, but don't) and you're going to sleep in past your normal wakeup, eg, until 10am, just to see what she does, if she actually does spend the whole night with him until her normal wakeup.

She knows you're into it, but she's still only doing what you both agreed to, it'd be interesting what she might do different if she thinks you won't know.

Or variation, tell Lauren you're not going to take it and you'll be up at your normal time, so you get up at, I dunno, 7am or whatever and walk out to make coffee and Lauren and Adam panic because she's in bed with him, luckily you just assumed she was in the bathroom or whatever.

[sandy691196]

Only Danny and Lauren know what exactly is happening in their bodies, hearts and lives.
We know through what Danny writes.
Danny knows through what Lauren tells her complemented by what he hears sometimes.

We get to guess a bit and extrapolate / interpolate certain things.

Danny has the privilege of experiencing first hand what it feels like to live with Lauren. He gets to see things that's not written here, he gets to hear things, feel things in real time. He knows best what's going on.

Then again, sometimes, distance and absence of personal stake, give more objectivity. Sometimes, own, maybe vast experiences of some readers lead to clarity in perspectives.

We did speculate in the last one week, whether Lauren is opening up and sharing with the girl gang. We, being we, inevitably imported a sexual gratification angle like girls going wild!

But the point is that Lauren did sound out the girls for perspective without in any way hinting that she and Danny were in an open relationship. But who knows what the others thought of her bringing it up!

She posed all the questions in the context of stuff happening in a committed relationship vis a vis a primary partner / SO. She asked her mom, if it was Ok for "Danny" to have put his dick in her pussy when she was asleep! Mom answered in the context of a husband sweetly waking up his darling wife with a loving prank! L didn't say it was about a fuck buddy doing that! What would mom's answer have been?
Lauren asked her pals whether in an open marriage / open love relationship, it is ok for the guy to go and finger a stripper. She equated Adam, a purported FB with a steady, committed lover?

Are these things Freudian Slips for Lauren? Does she equate Adam with Danny in her pre-conscious mind?

According to Danny, L said she doesnt see Adam in as bad a light as she did before.. but she catches on to his tricks and spots them a mile away!

Really?
Folks can you passionately kiss a sexual partner if you think s/he is a very bad person? That's what L thought about A before she became "soft" on him.. right? In the early - kissing and ass grabbing days? Later, in bed the hours of cuddling and spooning and all the loving, deep kisses.. Folks frankly can you do all that with a sexual partner who are kinda neutral about and also wary about?

If I am having a very casual fling with a woman for whom I feel nothing, I am in a hurry to disengage without giving offence, dress while keeping up the disarming talk and then get out and scram as fast as the situation allows.
With what kind of a partner would you kiss for hours, cuddle for a night? Agreed that there are various shades of "good feelings". One can feel very comfortable and cozy in the moment, with a pure FWB. A partner with whom you are Ok as a person, who looks good, is a good lay and whose smile and banter doesn't make your skin crawl.

But would you do with a pure FWB all that L does with Adam and spend the night in his/her arms? I get it if the situation doesnt allow calling it quits. But here Lauren's just gotta climb one set of stairs and get back to Danny's bed! But night after night?

Adam told Lauren - she is one cold piece since she said she didnt miss him. She clarified that she was mad on him. Meaning?

In normal conditions she would miss him? If he stays committed to her and lovingly monogamous, she would miss him? So now that he has committed to monogamy, what happens next? Where do his expectations go?

I think I have said here before that Lauren will return from her vacation with her thoughts well organised and sorted out. + here she had girls' advice and perspectives too. What she told Danny this time was from a different head space vis a vis what her real emotions were when the thing happened.

I think its too early to expect a comfortable status quo between the 3 going ahead.

More emotional tumult is ahead. Particularly if Danny follows his plan of going away for a weekend leaving the 2 love birds alone.
Lauren is a kind of person who organises her thoughts as per the "right" protocol before articulating her feelings. She doesn't even allow her own self to accept her own feelings unless they are as per "protocol".

More will follow. Let's wait.

[Watchinu69]

Thank You for clueing us all in on what the author is doing

[edgedndenied]

It seems to me that if what Lauren and Adam have is just sex then why does she stay and sleep with Adam for a couple of hours after sex. Adam sets his alarm so she can get back to Danny before he wakes up. Her sleeping with him after sex increasses the chances of Danny discovering them. Does Lauren like the cuddling, spooning the pillow talk etc. Does staying with him after sex show there are more feelings between them than Lauren wants to admit to Danny

[Gulfcpl]

Thank You for clueing us all in on what the author is doing

And thinking.

[Angela Plays]

I will not speculate on what anyone in this little triad actually is thinking, but I will state what I know.

No woman repeatedly spoons, cuddles, snuggles, and sleeps with a man she hasn’t caught some kind of “feels” for…I’ll leave it at that.

[Coolcalm]

What these folks are saying seems spot on. If it is just sex, why the kissing and spooning and sleeping with him long after sex is done? Yes we can’t know what she is feeling (I think we can easily surmise that Adam is falling quickly in love, if not already there; or at least whatever his narcissistic version of what love is) but the actions and behaviors do tell a story. When the sex is over then you go back to your husband if it really “just sex.” And again Angela is right on about “the feels.” And she should know; she is a woman-and quite a woman at that!
I see trouble ahead.

[Coolcalm]

What these folks are saying seems spot on. If it is just sex, why the kissing and spooning and sleeping with him long after sex is done? Yes we can’t know what she is feeling (I think we can easily surmise that Adam is falling quickly in love, if not already there; or at least whatever his narcissistic version of what love is) but the actions and behaviors do tell a story. When the sex is over then you go back to your husband if it really is “just sex,” especially if you’re trying not to get “caught.” And again Angela is right on about “the feels.” And she should know; she is a woman-and quite a woman at that!
I see trouble ahead.

[trecital]

No woman repeatedly spoons, cuddles, snuggles, and sleeps with a man she hasn’t caught some kind of “feels” for…I’ll leave it at that.

I don't disagree, but it needn't necessarily mean much more than some small amount of affection.
I've had sex with women in a one time situation, where we've both been happy to cuddle up afterwards for a little while, stroking hair and skin, kissing like long term lovers. And then said our goodbyes, never to see each other again.And both been happy to have had the experience.
And the same with a more regular, longer term affair, spanning years.

People are transferring their own way of thinking onto these three, and aren't able to accept that they don't necessarily react the same way as they themselves would.

Though I've only quoted Angela, my comment applies to others saying similar.

People react differently to the same situation that others are in. Thank goodness.

[Gearup]

I still would like to see what happens if Danny goes away for a weekend (friday afternoon to sunday morning) and leaves Lauren with Adam. That will be truly interesting.

[sandy691196]

(I think we can easily surmise that Adam is falling quickly in love, if not already there; or at least whatever his narcissistic version of what love is) but the actions and behaviors do tell a story. When the sex is over then you go back to your husband if it really is “just sex,” especially if you’re trying not to get “caught.” And again Angela is right on about “the feels.” And she should know; she is a woman-and quite a woman at that!
I see trouble ahead.

Why Adam alone? I suggest Lauren has fallen harder for Adam than Adam has for her.

Adam, afterall, ain't above a little nookie on the side, as proven with the stripper.
He feels victory with this Lauren conquest. But he has conquered girls before. Though this maybe the sweetest prize of them all. A married, educated, good looking blonde nerd.. Who he thought was in a perfect marriage with his smarter brother.

But Lauren? He is her first real Alpha man. Her first real good sex. Amazing sex. Followed by loving, post orgasmic romantic cuddles. She has never felt anything like this before.

From her POV, Adam has gone the mile for her, within the boundaries of his nature.
He bought her cute gifts, expensive for him. He listens to whatever she says. Literally eats out of her hands.

He gave up tinder. He promised to give up the occasional stripper..

Tell me why can't she be much more in love with him than he is with her?
Have you ever heard Lauren initiating sex with Danny ever since Adam became her primary sexual partner with bareback deep fucks?
Danny is in the comfortable friend zone.. good boy cuck zone (as she must have read about when she researched cuck marriages)..

I will reiterate, based on Danny's narratives on Lauren's strange reactions in her earlier attempts at LS / cheating.. she is given to kid herself about her real feelings.

Here too, she is kidding herself on her love and possessiveness for Adam. And she is kidding Danny.
She tells him the "events" (thereby squaring with her conscience).. but not her feelings. She doesn't confront or face her own feelings.

If Adam emotionally pleads with her to give up PIV sex with Danny.. she will lovingly agree if she can spin some yarn for Danny.
Lauren doesn't need Danny sexually anymore. It's a chore for her..

[Luigical1931]

I will not speculate on what anyone in this little triad actually is thinking, but I will state what I know.

No woman repeatedly spoons, cuddles, snuggles, and sleeps with a man she hasn’t caught some kind of “feels” for…I’ll leave it at that.

I’m going to quote this, as I feel like it needs more attention.

It might go against everything I seem to say (and a lot of it is genuinely being fascinated by whole situation and wanting to find out more).

But tread carefully. We know that we don’t know every single detail, those details could make the situation seem a bit safer (is that the right word?). But defo be careful.

What I would say is you know the situation. Just know that there’s other ways to explore this journey once this part is over (which you’ve done unsuccessfully so far, but Lauren may be a lot more open minded now, despite you thinking she’s vanilla)

I know I said we should wait for Danny to ask for our advice on a previous comment, so kind of going against what I said there, but feel it needs to be said.

I will likely contradict myself on a further post, but that’s purely due to the intensity of the situation.

[Jujube]

I’m not at all worried about Lauren and her feelings vis a vis Adam. She’s got to have good vibes and feelings to fuck him in the first place. To me, the cuddling, spooning etc is a natural glide down from intense sex, and I personally can’t have intense sex unless I feel strongly for the woman. Relax everyone, as Lauren says, she can see Adam’s shtick a mile away!

[Laney26]

I will not speculate on what anyone in this little triad actually is thinking, but I will state what I know.

No woman repeatedly spoons, cuddles, snuggles, and sleeps with a man she hasn’t caught some kind of “feels” for…I’ll leave it at that.

Really because I do it all the time, often by request of men I fuck. Before last year I was hit it and quit it with causal partners, my main fwb didn't like this. I tried begrudgingly for him and now understand how nice of an off ramp spooning or napping together can be with a fwb, that I don't have an emotional/romantic interest or connection with. It's essentially aftercare. Maybe she does or she doesn't have "feels" but making this blanket statement that appears to be predicted on stereotypical gender tropes is reductive and uninformed.

[sandy691196]

I will not speculate on what anyone in this little triad actually is thinking, but I will state what I know.

No woman repeatedly spoons, cuddles, snuggles, and sleeps with a man she hasn’t caught some kind of “feels” for…I’ll leave it at that.

Really because I do it all the time, often by request of men I fuck. Before last year I was hit it and quit it with causal partners, my main fwb didn't like this. I tried begrudgingly for him and now understand how nice of an off ramp spooning or napping together can be with a fwb, that I don't have an emotional/romantic interest or connection with. It's essentially aftercare. Maybe she does or she doesn't have "feels" but making this blanket statement that appears to be predicted on stereotypical gender tropes is reductive and uninformed.

Context:

The supposed "FWB" in this case is a tacky, potentially violent and unpredictable loser.
Those were his qualifications for being specifically selected, so that the thing can be kept limited to sex.

Are you saying that the FWB you cuddle and kiss with, is a guy you dislike as a person, as a human being? Do you do your post sex cuddling 4 times a week, all night, inspite of the easy option of going back to your hubby a floor above?

Do you too have a very insignificant sex life with your hubby and has your FWB replaced your SO as your primary sexual partner on life?

Do you too get to the verge of tears if your FWB fingers some random chick somewhere? Is he that kinda "FWB"?

Thanks.

[Watchinu69]

Thank You for clueing us all in on what the author is doing

And thinking.

Right- it's like he lives in Danny's head & telling him how to live his life.. Lifetime TV shot down his screen play...

[Jujube]

Some people just need to be muted. Belligerent rejoinders to statements being made have no place in any of these fora.

[Watchinu69]

Some people just need to be muted. Belligerent rejoinders to statements being made have no place in any of these fora.

Nobody has been belligerent but you, people are allowed to have opinions in an open forum - stop trying to sabotage things 🫵

[Luigical1931]

Just wanted to add to the comments about them cuddling etc. (again, as it was on my mind after I posted last night).

Danny had mentioned about Lauren reading about cuckolding etc. I do wonder if part of the cuddling, connection etc. is Lauren deliberately playing into the cuckold part, building that angst?

I wonder if it’s something they’ve discussed?

[The Owl]

For what it's worth, Lauren's deal with Danny was that she would have sex with Adam ON HER TERMS.

Any woman who enjoys having orgasmic sex with a well-endowed man enjoys the afterglow - post orgasmic bliss - which typically involves some cuddling.

The only reason she would depart Adam's bed quickly after sex is if Lauren wanted Danny to perform clean up duty with his tongue. That doesn't seem to be part of their ritual. Likewise, Lauren knows that Danny is fully aware of what she is doing - and that he may have his ear plastered to the wall - so there is no rush to return to their bed to avoid detection by the "sleeping" Danny.

In closing, it's hard to imagine that Adam believes that Danny is completely unaware of the late night trysts in Adam's room.

[joel68]

Owl,

You may be correct. Adam may not be that astute about a lot of things, but he has to have some suspicions about Dan waking up in the middle of the night and finding that Lauren is not next to him. He probably has no idea that Dan is in the room next door with his ear plastered to the wall so he can listen to him fuck his hot young wife and at the same time loving it as well.

I would not try to tell Dan and Lauren what to do as it's their show, but maybe they could discuss a plan to let Adam know that she is not actually "cheating" on Dan when she has Adam fuck her. There have been a lot of suggestions on here as how to accomplish this without letting Adam know that Dan is a cuck and jacks off to them fucking. But they are the ones who should decide when and how to do this.

I do believe that if Adam has suspicions, he really doesn't give a shit as he is regularly having a young, blonde, hottie come to his room to fuck. She comes on to him and he doesn't have to chase after her. Maybe he thinks that fucking her regularly is better than bringing up any suspicions. Possibly he thinks why rock the boat?

Who knows what they will do and what will happen. A lot of possibilities as they haven't been fucking all that long. Stay tuned. Maybe Dan will return to address some of what has been said here since the last time they fucked.

[cpmici+]

I think Adam has intuited something, but he doesn't want to talk about it so he can continue to live in Dan's house and fuck his wife. Besides, the other morning, after giving Laurem numerous orgasms during the night, before leaving the house, he asked him for the first time if he had slept well the previous night and when Dan answered that everything was ok, he patted him on the shoulder and left