Baby steps... hundreds of baby steps. Want to finally cross that line...

[foolforboobs]

My wife and I have been together for 25+ years and the thought of watching her fuck another man (or woman) has been at the pinnacle of my sexual to-do list for about 15 of those years, with sheer clothing being my second most favorite idea.

My wife is curvy (black men love her) and naturally beautiful, but extremely shy sexually.

Over the years, I've introduced her to public sex often, with hundreds of examples, culminating with very public sex in a winery's orchard. To large dildos, with her biggest being about 9 inches long and 6.25 dia. inches in girth. To squirting, she squirts like a fountain. I get to dabble with fucking her ass from time to time as well, but not often as I like due to my size (6.75 inches long x 5.5 dia. girth).

Regardless, we've talked (and role played) about her fucking another man and she's turned on by it, but a bit scared of it. I think it's going to take a tropical vacation, which she has agreed to a sheer bathing suit and see thru knit cover all for said vacation.

For those who have shy wives, how've you finally crested the hill?

[patw3268]

My wife is a firm no for religious reasons. I observed most men try to push the issue and 90% of them fail. Have you asked her what she really thinks and not interpreted her. I think the best line a man can uses is “I can see why you think that” and then let her keep talking. Resist the urge to interrupt.

[foolforboobs]

My wife is a firm no for religious reasons. I observed most men try to push the issue and 90% of them fail. Have you asked her what she really thinks and not interpreted her. I think the best line a man can uses is “I can see why you think that” and then let her keep talking. Resist the urge to interrupt.

Our conversation about it hasn't ever been outside of the bedroom, in the heat of the moment. I suppose a more level-headed conversation is due then.

[patw3268]

Yeah. Resist the urge to interject your opinion. Validate her feelings. “I can see how you would think that” is the best response.

[foolforboobs]

We have a very private summer vacation upcoming with some promise. We are renting a private cabin with outdoor hot tub and big open windows.

In our in-depth chats about it, we are setting some expectations:

• Cabin property attire only includes lingerie, sheer bathing suits and nudity

• I get to purchase and choose her attire for the four day trip (no panties, sundresses and slutty eveningwear incoming)

• I have to keep her wet at all times

• I have to perform oral (my specialty) whenever she asks

On our sexy time talk, she has confessed that she has dreamt of being seduced by an athletic black man and that he fucked her in a public pool in her dream...

I think things are looking up...

[Regit]

From my perspective you’re making big steps, but I can understand it doesn’t feel that way to you.
I made the mistake to tell a big part of my desires to her during roleplay, but that scared her off. In my mind this lifestyle has been brewing for years, but for her it was new and overwelming. I just got lost in the heat of the moment. Maybe if I had been aproaching it from her angle we’ve made some babysteps ourself.

[funfortwo]

Sounds like you are on the right track, move slowly and have lots of communication. Try some "role playing" while using her dildos. Ask her if she would like it if it was a handsome, well hung lover? While driving to your cabin retreat, listen to some hotwifing/cuckolding podcasts. They're available on apple podcast btw. While listening, pause them occasionally, and take time to discuss various aspects associated with the LS. Listen to her and communicate her feelings. We used this path to have my wife talk about her feelings, hesitations and concerns. But, my wife discovered that we're not alone in this dynamic and that there are a lot of other women that have walked this path before us. It took some time, but my wife has had a regular BF for the past 2 years. Good luck and enjoy the ride.

[foolforboobs]

Sounds like you are on the right track, move slowly and have lots of communication. Try some "role playing" while using her dildos. Ask her if she would like it if it was a handsome, well hung lover? While driving to your cabin retreat, listen to some hotwifing/cuckolding podcasts. They're available on apple podcast btw. While listening, pause them occasionally, and take time to discuss various aspects associated with the LS. Listen to her and communicate her feelings. We used this path to have my wife talk about her feelings, hesitations and concerns. But, my wife discovered that we're not alone in this dynamic and that there are a lot of other women that have walked this path before us. It took some time, but my wife has had a regular BF for the past 2 years. Good luck and enjoy the ride.

Both my wife and I have low tolerance for cringe, and every hotwiring podcast I've heard are heavily cringe and are more porn-like rather than real expectations. Unless you have other suggestions outside of what I'm seeing in my searches, I appreciate your advice.

Luckily, my wife and I also have really honest conversations and are really considerate of one another's input. So I think that's a big plus.

[foolforboobs]

Ha! She totally embarrassed herself today with a slip of the tongue...

We were playing a board with family and she let straight made an allusion to BBC without thinking. She finally understood what she said, turned to me and was beet red. Luckily, I think all but my SIL didn't understand what she meant and I'm kinda okay with that.