Rejected!!!

[Tank Turner]

My sister-in-law, her fiancé, my wife, and I were scheduled to do the same nude resort they did last April. My niece was born in early February. She made innocuous statements months before she gave birth that she did not intend to go. It wasn't about her body after recently giving birth. It was about a mother of a newborn who will not leave her baby for any reason. I picked up the innuendo in her innocuous sounding comments at least two months before her baby was born. I completely got it. Mothers of newborns won't leave them to do a nude resort some 700 miles south or for any reason.

The fiancé and Brad are best friends. He told Brad that his fiancée cancelled on the nude resort. Since Brad found out that the vacay had been postponed, he's conveyed innuendo to my wife. She knew exactly where he was going. My wife blew him off. A couple days ago, he texted her that he had five days off next week. Firefighters are off more than they work. Probably out of desperation, he asked he if she'd go to the Tulum, MX nude resort with him for a few days next week. He'd pick up all expenses. She was disappointed that he failed to read her cues.

She called him to tell him that we have two extremely inquisitive adolescent kids. She told him that there was no way she could disappear for three or more days without a rock solid explanation and supporting proof.

My wife had Brad wired with a couple weeks of our initial MFM extravaganza. They'll usually text each other every day. By the third day after she fucks him into oblivion, his text messages to her are overt sexual requests. We've accommodated him when we could. My wife wanted and wants it more than he did/does. But we never took unnecessary risks that could have resulted in our kids fining out that their angelic mother is a bedroom porn star.

Brad got the message. When my wife makes up her mind, especially about anything concerning our kids, it becomes a bank vault. She comforted him with her assurances that they'll have sex during his five days off, but she will not go anywhere other than local with him.

Brad is the only dude whom my wife is comfortable spending the night with him at his home. Since we got into sport fucking, she has never spent the night with anyone, and fucked only one guy without me after we hashed out the particulars.

We started out with exclusive MFM sex. I was always present. That evolved to my leaving her for him to enjoy after I got two money shots. I sleep most soundly in our bed. She sleeps soundly in Brad's bed, but they never seem to get a lot of sleep. That evolved to my wife meeting Brad for sex without me but calling me prior. Finally, that evolved to her fucking him without notifying me prior but always calling me to tell me where she was when she'd be home. She often spends the night at Brad's home depending on what our kids are doing.

Brad's 15 years younger than my wife. He has promised her that he's looking for a woman who's a lot closer to his age and loves sex as much as my wife loves it. He was burned by his deceiving last long term girlfriend. He's assured my wife that he will not be deceived again. He wants a family, yet her wants his future children's mother and his wife to enjoy exciting and non-conventional sex.

BTW, I asked my wife if she would have done the nude resort with Brad if she could've pulled it off. Her response was immediate. "Absolutely if it were OK with you." She's loved nude sunbathing since a long ago boyfriend took her to a nude beach a lot during the summer of her 19th year. She is sexually enlightened and sexually uninhibited. She's believed since childhood that nudity was normal and natural. She loves the sensation of nudity. However, that nude resort is not restricted to nudity. She fucked Brad into sexual oblivion while they were there.

I was happy to see that my wife reiterated her sexual limitations with Brad. When we can make it work or when my wife can make it work, she keeps him in sexual euphoria until we or she leaves. In a quid pro quo, he pampers and spoils her and has always assumed responsibility to assuring her safety and protecting her.

That was not the first time my wife rejected him, but it was the most significant rejection. She knew that he was 100% confident that she would go with him. According to her, he was crushed when she rejected him

Brad needs to get hustling on finding a woman closer to his age, develop a relationship with her, marry, her, and start a family.

[venus-can99]

Well with a wonderful woman like your wife as his gf I am sure he is having a hard time finding a woman of his own. Your wife is his ideal woman - porn star in the bedroom but angelic outside it, caring for others with love and firmness.

[Tank Turner]

Hi venus-can99,

Thank you so much for your greatly appreciated compliment.

Take care,

TT

[Tank Turner]

Brad knows all of my wife's sexual fantasies. She knows all of his. He knows that she has a gang bang fantasy that she hasn't experienced.

The three of us and my wife and Brad when I wasn't with them have discussed gang bangs to a considerable extent. It was obvious to my wife and I that he wants her to do a gang bang more than she wants to experience one.

In what could be interpreted as an implied compromise, my wife has agreed that we would meet Brad and his firefighting brothers at a sports bar for March Madness games. Brad's best friend, my sister-in-law's fiancé, might be there if his fiancée gives him a porch pass to attend the gathering.

Brad told my wife that he would arrange a gang bang for her with three of his firefighting brothers. She told him to hold that thought while she considered his offer. He promised her that he would not say a word to his brother firefighters until she decided (if she were to decide) to do a gang bang.

My wife told me that we're going. I asked her whether she decided to accept Brad's offer. She hasn't. She's interested and intrigued by the firefighters Brad planned to invite to her initial gang bang if she decides to be initiated. The problem is she did not ask him whether they'll be at the sports bar. That could have been Brad's intent. Maybe he wants her to choose three firefighters from a group of them.

Since my wife's sister began dating her fiancé, she has grown to like and respect firefighters. She wasn't initially impressed with her sister's date, then boyfriend, then fiancé, and soon-to-be husband until she got to know him. Now she considers him as a family member. They often bicker like brother and sister will, but they have genuine sibling love for each other.

My wife stayed with her sister for a week while her fiancé was assigned to assist Los Angeles City Fire Department fighting uncontained infernos. Firefighters from throughout California and other states were assigned to assist LAFD. She knew in theory that her fiancé's profession was dangerous. Watching live televised fire broadcasts transitioned theory to fact.

My wife is enamored of intelligent men who'd willingly risk their lives to save others. Before she got to know her sister's fiancé, she never gave a thought about firefighters. Brad's profession is one of the reasons my wife admires and respects him. And he has always treated her with highest honor and respect, even while he had her bent over furniture and fucking her like a fire engine racing toward a fire and slapping her ass to get her to pick up speed. My wife expects to be dominated while receiving hard, rough, ass slapping, hair pulling, neck grabbing, dirty talking fucking.

[Tank Turner]

Preliminary info indicates that we're doing a March Madness sports bar on Monday.

Last night, my wife was a sexual tigress, and I was her prey except I preyed on her. She was all over dirty talking wild gang bang sex. I'm lucky that she has a vivid imagination.

After we fucked ourselves into exhaustion, she told me she's not committed to doing a gang bang, but she is extremely committed to meeting Brad's colleagues. We might have met them before at parties we attended with her sister and her fiancé,

[zorro]

Love hearing the arrangement and practices your wife, Brad, and you have together. It is wonderful when a woman is able to be spontaeously sexual with whomever she desires but also keeps her husband immediately informed so there is no question of deception.

My wife also has the freedom to have spontaneous sex with our long-term FB as a 1-1 but she has preferred having MFMs. From what she says, she likes having 2 men and 2 cocks at the same moment to charm and entertain her. When it comes to just one cock, mine is the only one she wants 1-1.

Please keep us informed about how much she learns about firemen doing it well with their hoses.

[SheLikesWhenIWatch]

Oh, heck! My wife gets wet for firefighters the moment they even look in her general direction at the nearby grocery store!

The local firefighters occasionally go shopping for food there. They park their massive truck right outside the door in the emergency lane, and about eight of them head in to buy a bunch of shit for the firehouse kitchen. They’re always wearing a t-shirt and their big, heavy bell-bottomed pants held up with suspenders….radios draped over their shoulders….muscular and well-toned bodies clearly evident under their t-shirts.

She has chidingly confided in me:
She loves how strong they look. She figures if they can pick her up, throw her over their shoulders, and carry her down a 60-foot ladder, they would certainly have no problem picking her naked body up and passing her around from brother to brother to be set down on their hard dicks!

It completely defies professionalism, but she wants to believe the firehouse bunk room has, at least once, become some girl’s gangbang dream-come-true. She wants to be next…..for young and old……She wants to be their rag-doll fucktoy for the evening.

I laugh, of course, because they probably have NO idea how they affect the women (and men?) they casually brush by as they pick out their dozen apples. I tell her to stop looking at those firefighter calendars every year! They give her ideas! “They’re just dudes doing their job,” I say. “They probably go home after their rotation to all of the mundane shit we ALL deal with….wives, kids, bills, chores.”

It’s her fantasy, I guess. No harm in fantasizing!

But this fellow wonders if a fantasy like hers has ever actually happened in real life! (Please don’t hijack Tank’s thread, here. It was just meant to provoke some thought I had about the way my wife views firefighters the way Tank’s wife does. She gets all twitterpated when they’re around!)

[Tank Turner]

Good morning, zorro,

Psychologists have attempted to compartmentalize promiscuous women using biased research methodologies resulting in invalid data. At best, their conclusions were guesses sans intellectualism. Their conclusions could be attributed to voodoo, not scientific methodology.

Promiscuity is subjective. Nowhere have I read credible and valid theories on promiscuity. There is no psychiatric definition of promiscuity.

I was clueless about my wife's intelligence until about a month after we began booty calling each other. She has a very high IQ that she does not reveal. She thinks IQ tests are subjective and not valid predictors. Eugenicists believe intelligence is genetic. They've summarily eliminated environment, physical health, and other attributes of intelligence.

My wife is naturally curious about anything the piques her interest. She read about feminism including America's Puritan Era, Victorian Era, Seneca Falls Declaration, Women's Suffrage Association, Abolitionist Movement and liberating black women from slavery and patriarchy, the 19th Amendment (women's right to vote), the Lost Generation authors who were realistic about sex, Helen Gurley Brown, and many other historical works about the evolution of feminism before she graduated from high school.

My wife avoids definitive categories. So do I. She does not consider herself to be a feminist. She's a pragmatist and realist. She contrasted what she read about feminist movements with eras in which they occurred. Feminism has been taken out of context and exploited for political expediency. It cannot be separated from the realities of eras. She doesn't believe sexism was causal of women's stunted progression. Prior to modern conveniences, dichotomy between husband and wife was necessary for survival. Men worked all day to produce food. If they were fortunate, they'd have excess to sell. Women were responsible for domestic routines. There were no gas ovens, washing machines, microwave ovens, vacuum cleaners, an other modern conveniences that we take for granted. Women worked as hard within homes as their husbands did tilling fields and ranching. Taking care of a home and children left no free time for wives.

There was no indoor plumbing. husbands and wives were lucky to bathe once a week. Perfume was invented to mask feminine body order. Women did not being shaving their legs until the Roaring 20s. Razor blade manufacturers realized that they excluded 50% of their potential market for razor blades. The created a marketing plan (propaganda) to induce women to begin shaving their legs. Its success motivated razor blade manufactures to induce women to expand shaving to include their armpits. That identical marketing strategy has been applied to convince women to apply razors to their bushes. They convinced men and women that all body hair, which is 100% normal and natural and our bodies' first defense against pathogens, was unsightly and must be removed. Americans have always been susceptible to creatively and artfully applied propaganda.

Feminism cannot be isolated as causal of women's social advancement. Modern technology liberated women from traditional domestic roles thus enabling them to pursue education. Before gas stoves, ovens, indoor plumbing, refrigerators, washing machines, and dryers were invented, women had no time to pursue life beyond their homes. Because of modern technology, women exceed 50% of medical school students. They've excelled in mathematics and sciences. Women comprise a substantial percentage of NASA scientists.

My wife's major was not history. She had and still has natural curiosity about historical progression of humanity.

My wife knows that if there was a sexual revolution, it occurred millennia before the 20th century. Greek and Roman women were equal participants in orgies and bacchanalia parties. Roman bathhouses were shared equally by men and women. Women courtesans of Absolutism were desired, admired, and respected. Women were sexually liberated long before the sexual revolution. From memory along, the Egyptians created the first efficacious pregnancy termination medicine.

My wife's sexual enlightenment that has been unfairly criticized as promiscuous is the outcome of her knowledge, reason, logic, and critical thinking skills. She had knowingly and voluntarily engaged in sex as she desired, not in conformity of subjective societal norms imposed upon her.

Psychologists have unconscionably commingled all promiscuous women as suffering from negative experiences during their formative years. According to psychologists (ever to be confused with the medical discipline of psychiatry), promiscuity is a symptom of a problem. But for omniscient psychologists, women who love sex would not know that they suffer from problems.

Psychology eliminated the obvious category of women who love sex, know of sex's therapeutic benefits, and refuse to comport their sexuality to biased, unscientific assumptions. Yes, it's true, women love sex as much as men if not more.

There is no medical diagnosis of nymphomania, a noun used pejoratively to impugn women's character. Promiscuity is subjective, not scientific.

I refer to the first month of my relationship as our booty calling phase. Maybe a week into that phase, she resolutely explained to me that sex was as normal and natural as any other human function. She loved sex. Orgasms have known therapeutic benefits. If she wanted to have sex, she would without constraints imposed upon her.

My wife had a lot of sexual partners during college and before I met her, exclusive of a few drunken college party sexual forays (Who hasn't engaged in drunken college party sex?), she's been cautious and discriminate about dudes she fucked. She attributed avoiding contracting an STD to caution and discrimination.

We had sex on the evening of our first date. It would have been obvious to the blind and sexually naïve that she was extremely sexually experienced and loved sex. Most normal and healthy women love sex. I was a long way beyond sexually naïve. I was enamored of her sexual confidence. Since I saw my first porn film when I was in middle school, I've been enamored of women with sexual confidence. I used to brag to my friends that I would marry a porn star. I met a woman in my wife who had sexual confidence that I found alluring and desirable. It was obvious to both of us that we were completely sexually compatible.

We have always discussed sex openly, honestly, and without judgments. Since we became exclusive, we had sex with only each other.

My wife and I easily can differentiate sex for physical euphoria and sex as an expression of love and bonding. Most women have difficulty distinguishing between the two.

About a month after our first date, we became committed and exclusive. She told me in essence that as her boyfriend, I was obligated to have sex with her every day. She told me that she needed sex every day as opposed to wanting it. About two months later, after she knew that she could trust me, she told me about her endocrine system abnormality that caused her adrenal gland to release excess testosterone into her system causing her libido to be stratospheric. She told me that since puberty, which was when onset of symptoms of abnormality appeared, she'd frequently experience episodes of uncontrollable desire for sex. Her physician believes her endocrine system abnormality will correct itself at menopause.

I think my wife hit her sexual prime at puberty and has been enjoying it since.

By my mid-30s, our libidos were going in opposite directions. I was still able to fuck at least three times a day. Three times was warm-up for her. After she orgasms, she has a compelling desire for her pussy to be penetrated by a large, hard cock and to be fucked like a porn star. It became undeniably obvious that I could not satisfy her incalculable libido.

Since the first time we had sex, we've dirty talked each other, which was unusual for both of us. For an undefined reason, it came naturally to us. We dirty talked more often about unconventional sex. She became unbelievably turned on when I told her to suck an illusory cock while I was banging her like a freight train doggie. It wasn't long before we knew without vocally acknowledging it that group sex wasn't merely dirty talk.

My wife and I are more in love with each other than we've ever been. We completely trust each other. We agreed when we became exclusive that we'd never lie to each other. Lying to spouses is the first indicator of a marriage unraveling. There is not a modicum of doubt in my mind that if my wife were to do a girls night out, got drunk, and fucked the bartender on the bar, she would tell me about it. I can resolve drunken indiscretions. Sober lying is never resolve and always remembered.

If you don't know my wife, it would be easy to misinterpret her as a complex woman. After learning about her basis of knowledge, her elevated intelligence, and her natural curiosity, her personality makes sense.

We all have varying criteria for determining desirable lifelong partner, best friend, soulmate, and spouse. Based my my experience, I would much rather marry a woman who is thoroughly sexually experienced and has had as many sexual partners as necessary for her to know what's most important to her in a man who's her best friend, soulmate, and spouse.

[Tank Turner]

Hi SheLikesItWhenIWatch,

Amen, brother.

I had no clue that firefighters had almost rock star status among women until my sister-in-law began dating one. He and Brad have told me about total debauchery involving women who feel it for firefighters. They know that women know that firefighters are among California's highest paid public employees. It's not uncommon for many firefighters in the Bay Area and the Great Los Angeles Region to earn 400 a year. Some earn over 500k a year. Their salaries do not include public safety benefits.

I've been exposed to the history of fire fighting. It was once a strictly blue collar career. As our country progressed, fire departments were assigned broader social responsibilities. Fire department paramedic crews respond to live endangering circumstances. They are educated far beyond basic EMT certification. I knew none of that shit until Brad and the fiancé got me squared away. Fire departments are responsible for hazardous materials disposal. They have to know forensic science to determine cause of fires (arson).

A college degree is not required to be hired as a fire fighter. Brad and the fiancé are university graduates. They told me that it would be next to impossible to be hired as a fire fighter without a college degree. Fire departments recruit people with hard sciences degrees, especially chemistry, physics, math, and engineering, all of which are required disciplines for doing that job.

Fire fighting attracts people with masculine characteristics. Many were college athletes. Physical fitness is necessary for the job, so most firefighters are studs. Excellent physical condition could be the difference between living and dying.

My wife and her sister have always had it for masculine men. My wife admires and respects firefighters after Brad and the fiancé told them about unpublicized rescues of trapped people that firefighters consider routine. They're expected to risk their lives to save others. My wife gets aroused listening to their stories about firefighters knowingly and willingly risking their lives to save trapped people. My wife loves wearing only Brad's fire department uniform shirt with nothing on under it.

They educated me about electric vehicles. They have told me with absolute confidence that electric vehicles are not green. Lithium ion batteries often leak toxins and carcinogenic chemicals that require fire department haz mat response. Fire departments cannot extinguish lithium ion blazes. Lithium ion does not require oxygen to burn; hence, fire departments are unable to extinguish EV fires. They told me that all they can do is cordon off areas while lithium ion consumes itself.

Lithium ion burns at 1200 degrees, hot enough to melt steel. There's usually only deformed steel caused by it melting into a pile remaining after EV fires. Firefighters cannot extract people trapped inside EV fires because they burn at temperatures far higher than their protective equipment can withstand. Smoke from EV fires is contaminated with toxins and carcinogens.

Brad told us about a recent lithium ion battery plant fire south of San Francisco. If you were to do a 'net search of, "Monterey County, CA lithium ion battery fire," you should find it. Firefighters were unable to extinguish it. They sealed off the area and waited until it consumed its fuel. Toxins and carcinogens within smoke from the fire forced evacuations from homes in the nearby are. EPA and Air Quality Control responded to make sure air was safe to breathe after the fire consumed its fuel. I think he said that farm animals located miles away were discovered dead. It was believed that they inhaled smoke from the fire which killed them.

Firefighters don't drive EVs for a reason. Brad convinced us to exclude an EV from our next car purchase.

Brad speculated that because lithium ion is not green energy and because of known dangers they pose to communities, they'll be legislated out of use and existence.

After getting to know Brad and the fiancé, I know why women are attracted to firefighters.

[Tank Turner]

I get it. I understand it. I even agree with it. But it's getting old.

I just got back from my sister-in-law's home. Her fiancé took 6 weeks off to help her with their newborn. He's back to work. He's working tonight. My wife made dinner. I could hear the baby. Mothers call it "fussing." I call it babies doing what babies do. My wife got her niece and held her while she ate dinner, if you call a few bites dinner. She told me she was going to spend the night at her sister's home to help her sister take care of the baby.

She has been good about coming home after spending the day at her sister's home. But I can't rely on her coming home because she's committed to helping her sister. I get that. I'm good with that. It's frustrating to cancel plans at the last minute because of "fussing."

My wife must have read my face. She rested her hand on my arm, looked at me, and said, "I can come home for an hour or so." That was her way of saying that if I wanted fuck her into a euphoric coma, she'd be able to get away for about an hour. I told he that I was good.

I'll be in suspended animation for about another 4 months. From memory of our kids, at around 6 months they sleep through the night. My luck will be her niece will delay it an additional 6 months.

Ending positively, she confirmed that we're doing March Madness with Brad and his colleagues on Monday. My sister-in-law won't give her fiancé a porch pass to attend if the baby is "fussy."

What the hell does "fussy" mean?

[Tank Turner]

Before my wife left this morning to take our kids to school, she reminded me about meeting Brad and his colleagues this evening. She said she'd be home early from her sister's home to get ready. I hope she wears her sexy, mid-thigh skirt. It was designed for risky public fucking.

If she's committed either way, she hasn't revealed it.

She's an extrovert and naturally gregarious. She loves meeting new people, not necessarily for sex. She's naturally curious. She loves learning about other people's professions.

She's back to drinking wine. When it gets hotter, she'll get back on margaritas. We have concurred that sex is better when sober. She has no sexual inhibitions. She doesn't need alcohol to help her do what she wants to do. She flirts more readily after a few glasses of wine. Her flirting does not always lead to sex.

[Tank Turner]

I just got off the phone with my wife. I told her that March Madness was over. Sweet Sixteen doesn't start until Thursday. She didn't have a clue. She told me that she wasn't going to watch sports. She was going to BS with Brad and his colleagues.

Dodgers v Angels will begin their freeway preseason games this evening, and there will be NBA games on, so we'll have something to watch and talk about besides sex.

As far as she knew, she'll be the only woman attending. She basks in masculine attention. If she's the only woman there, she'll get more masculine attention that she'll be able to handle.

It's warm in Southern California which will give her a reason to wear a sexy skirt or shorts.

The fiancé was home. He was sleeping. He has tonight off, which is not a guarantee that he'll be at the sports bar. If my sister-in-law wants him to stay home to help her with their newborn, he will.

I don't expect debauchery will happen tonight. She has yet to indicate it will happen. Brad has been working on her. He doesn't know her as thoroughly as I do. When she makes up her mind to do or not do anything, she won't change it.

She said she'll be home around 3 or 4 to get ready for this evening. She said we're eating dinner at the sports bar. One or both of us will have to return home by 9:00 pm to make sure our kids are ready for school tomorrow. I'll probably be responsible for that. I could pull that off and be back at the bar in a half-hour.

We'll probably take Uber just in case we decide to drink more than we should.