Maybe "In a Few Years"

[uxorious]

Thanks for the update,

Just focus on supporting your Wife now, showing Her that you love Her and wants Her to enjoy Herself.
Don't push, from what you are saying She is about to take the plunge but will do so when She feels comfortable and feels She is in control and not being requested to do this for someone else.

Sincerely
elina

Makes sense. Good suggestion. I’ve also offered to make things easy for her — I asked her to send me some links to the dresses she’s looking at so I can buy them and she can try them on (we’d return whatever she didn’t want to wear) and also offered to call to set up her mani/pedi appointment. For some reason that one makes me feel especially submissive.

[Rogueuser1]

Great thread --- can't wait to read more as the big date approaches!

[uxorious]

We're back in a standstill.

We had a really sexy Friday a couple weeks back. She wanted me to fuck her twice before work and once on her lunch break. We sexted/fantasized while she was at work about her being a sugar baby and told me fucking an older man (50-60) is a legitimate fantasy of hers. We talked dirty about her setting up a profile on a dating app but nothing has materialized there. She doesn't want to be sexually assaulted and I think is concerned about her safety with a stranger 1:1 which is why her hookup John was such a great candidate.

They hadn't texted a ton (they're messaging on Instagram) but she told him she was still looking forward to their drink and so was she. This coming Thursday 5/30 was supposed to be the big night. She was drinking last Friday night and DM'ed him that it would just be one drink and then it would be back to the room, which was a little hot for me since it was the most forward she's been with him.

He took it kind of weird, saying "what do you expect to happen" and something like "well it's been years since I've seen you, what are you looking for?" He has to know what she's looking for -- casual sex -- and wants her to say it but that turned her off. It got her complaining about how dense he is and why things didn't work out when they were hooking up a few years back. I think the guy is a moron -- it's clear her has the opportunity to fuck her again and he fumbled pretty badly. She now says there's a 0% chance they're hooking up on Thursday but we'll see if she changes her mind. More to come.

Unrelated but hot small penis humiliation (SPH) story: I was at the beach with my girlfriend and 3 of her friends (1 is very hot) and after some drinks and sunshine they got to talking about dating. One of them said that a guy asked for SPH and the hot one was like "OMG, does he have a little dick? Is it like an acorn?"

My girlfriend and I laughed but did not contribute. It was me and four women and the topic of SPH -- one of my kinks -- comes up organically in front of some ladies who have been drinking. Talk about fumbled opportunities -- I wish I spoke up and said I was into it as well. Who knows, maybe they would have asked me to show them and tease me?

I do know there's a difference between fantasy and real life and I'm not sure if I would want them to know full time. But apart from 1 of the girls they are mostly separate from most of our other friends. Like the Nike shirt says: you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

[myoralannie]

Good luck. I hope it works out well and your hottie gets the big cock her tight little body deserves. Keep us posted please.

[sandy691196]

Does anyone else have a bad feeling about how it went? Let's try and summarise:

1. The girl was looking to settle down after some action and uncertainty in life.

2. The OP pushed her subtly and not so subtly to get into his hotwife fantasy. While most people like a lot of sex and good sex, including adventures, there are many other considerations involved in people's decision making.

3. They (she) came up with this good idea of stuff happening organically at a sex club, where she has the option of probing things at her own pace. But the OP dumped that idea after one logistic failure! Never tried this route again!

4. Instead he kept pushing her into a scenario with an old FB with a large dick. This guy, for good measure lives in the OP's family town! She talked about "feeling pressurised" and not keen on sex with this guy outside the fantasy world! But our OP would have none of that and kept the pressure on!

5. They were in a critical phase of their relationship when marriage was being discussed.

6. She blew her top on a particularly stupid message from the big dick guy and said sex is off the table! But OP persists! She had very legitimate concerns about giving "gross" messages about an Open Relationship. That left the equally "demeaning" (in her book) scenario of her cheating on a BF she was about to marry.

7. Now most "normal" girls would rethink on the relationship and whether the man is worthy of respect and commitment. She would be internally freaking out about their future. In all this, our OP never once appeared to empathise with her and at least pretend to want to call it off!

Now people, its for you to guess what happened on 5/ 30 and June..and to the relationship!

[uxorious]

I think I let this thread go because I didn't really vibe with the previous poster's unfair and inaccurate armchair psychoanalysis but if I let my haters get to me I would have stopped long ago. We are doing great, we are since engaged and living together. She has told a total of two friends that know -- including one who is also very hot and gets a lot of male attention when they go out. I think she will be a good wingman and encourage it to happen. I'll continue posting updates when something real materializes...

[nutjob]

I think I let this thread go because I didn't really vibe with the previous poster's unfair and inaccurate armchair psychoanalysis but if I let my haters get to me I would have stopped long ago. We are doing great, we are since engaged and living together. She has told a total of two friends that know -- including one who is also very hot and gets a lot of male attention when they go out. I think she will be a good wingman and encourage it to happen. I'll continue posting updates when something real materializes...

Congratulations on your engagement! Have you set a date yet? Is she the type of person who, the moment you were engaged, started to plan the wedding?

[uxorious]

Thank you! We haven't started planning yet -- we really do need to lock in the date because many venues by us are booked out a year in advance. Targeting next Spring!

[3532734dreamer]

Hi uxorious.

Thanks for updating us. And congrats on getting engaged!

Very hot that two of her friends know. But I'm confused, what do they know? And what happened at the wedding?

[venus-can99]

Congrats on your engagement and best wishes for your wedding in advance

[playwifeplease]

Hi uxorious.

Thanks for updating us. And congrats on getting engaged!

Very hot that two of her friends know. But I'm confused, what do they know? And what happened at the wedding?

Me too Dreamer, after reading the whole thread from start to finish today, I was also confused about the wedding and whether anything had come of it?

On a +ve note, it's pretty hot to know here two friends wil be around to 'assist' on possible new scenarios in the future.

Also, from my cuck perspective, I think it's even hotter, now that Uxorious and his lovely lady are now engaged. Having my fiancée fucked by some bigger dicked dude would be way hot!

[marriedky]

Would love to hear anymore progress or non-progress. Been talking to my wife for years about sharing her and I’d love to hear others experiences that worked or didn’t work or still a work in progress

[uxorious]

Hi uxorious.

Thanks for updating us. And congrats on getting engaged!

Very hot that two of her friends know. But I'm confused, what do they know? And what happened at the wedding?

Her two friends are each slutty in different ways. The one is blunt and single -- apparently she has said "do you want to come over and fuck?" to a single guy she was talking to. The other is slutty for cheating on her husband multiple times with multiple different men.

The wedding we attended was a non-starter. She had reached out to an old flame (a hung military man who fucked her really well) to set up a date the night before but we were supposed to meet with my family the next morning but it kind of fizzled out. She sent him a message about hooking up on IG and he was confused as she had a boyfriend. Dude asked too many questions and lost his shot. She didn't want to mess with it after that.

[uxorious]

So this is an interesting development. I recently got in an accident (which it sounds like I will fully recover from) and am now pretty limited in my mobility. She has been enormously helpful in assisting me with every aspect of life. This morning I was masturbating when she came home and she asked what I was doing. I told her I hate to say this but I was imagining her fucking someone while I'm recovering. She put her hands together and let me cum in her hands which did not take very long. She told me she could see having a girls' night soon, out with one of her friends that knows.

She has been a saint with helping me. From cooking meals to doing all the cleaning to even helping me with mundane tasks like putting my clothes on after a shower or bringing me food and water. I am sensing her need for a release. It honestly feels like this is closer to happening now than ever before.

[3532734dreamer]

Holy shit, hope you are ok!
Though it kind of sounds like it could take a while for you to fully recover. You are fortunate to have your wife there help and take care of you. Would only be fair for her to get something in return...
Wish you well on your recovery!

[uxorious]

Thanks -- relatively minor injury but it has me taking it slow, not putting weight on a foot, waiting to see a specialist...

A few days after the accident I was fantasizing about not being able to fuck her with my boot on and I got really turned on thinking she might find that.

[Long Lurker 34]

Thanks -- relatively minor injury but it has me taking it slow, not putting weight on a foot, waiting to see a specialist...

A few days after the accident I was fantasizing about not being able to fuck her with my boot on and I got really turned on thinking she might find that.

U
- Hence the earlier reference to "idle hands" activity. Tisk, tisk.

[uxorious]

Approximately 6 months ago I got a female sex therapist as an outlet to chat through some of these things. She is pro- non-monogamy and "alternative" sex so she didn't even blink when I told her about the cuckold stuff. It has been moderately helpful to chat through this specifically and some non-sexual things going on with my life (a work transition, family stuff, etc.).

I told her for the first time that I was obsessed with big dick. I've never had a gay sexual experience but I did have some comparative moments growing up with me (average/small) and some of my peers (bigger, fuller, filling out boxer briefs, big, loose scrotums that seemed to fall out of shorts, etc).

The therapist asked if I wanted to seek one out to suck one or fuck one -- I said no, that I want him to fuck my fiancee. I realize I do not want to be the best sexual partner my fiancee has ever had -- I want her to find one and to keep me on the side. I want to be the emotional, financial and familial support while she has her lover for raw (I mean here passionate, not unprotected) sex with a well-hung lover. (I know that's nothing new here.)

It's been interesting to admit this out loud to someone. It was a slight turn on to admit it to a woman but I've kind of gotten past that. I did tell her that I did have a male therapist in the past and I touched on some of the feelings of sexual adequacy and he totally didn't get it -- he said anatomy is different for everyone and it's not that big of a deal. I guess in my fantasy, I want it to be a big deal and the difference between me and my fiancee's future lover.

[wannabecUKold]

Thanks
Will you go back to the therapist? Report back if you do, please.

[elina]

I can fully understand that it is a lot easier to share these feelings with a Female Therapist who is open to the cuckold lifestyle.

As wannabecUKold asked: Did you continue with this therapist?
And also, have you considered soliciting Her help to get the message across to your Fiancee?

Sincerely
elina

[ucaneffher]

The therapist asked if I wanted to seek one out to suck one or fuck one -- I said no, that I want him to fuck my fiancee. I realize I do not want to be the best sexual partner my fiancee has ever had -- I want her to find one and to keep me on the side. I want to be the emotional, financial and familial support while she has her lover for raw (I mean here passionate, not unprotected) sex with a well-hung lover. (I know that's nothing new here.)

You have very much worded things in a way that describe how I've been feeling lately. I find myself thinking of this and feeling open to accept becoming her emotional, financial, and familial support while being very limited to sex with the exception of my birthday and our anniversary.

The difference of my thinking to yours is that while I would want her to have a boyfriend who can be her primary sex partner 99% of the time, I am also accepting her falling in love and being emotionally connected with him. Let's face it, he's going to be her go-to full time sex partner, it's inevitable that she will fall in love and vice versa.

In my head the perfect scenario is that he lives with us, they share a bedroom full time, he is her primary sex partner and emotional partner full time. I get to sleep with her once-twice per week, still cuddle, still have sex that is not penetrative, still have our romantic dates, still be very much in love. I just have to wait my turn to penetrate her on my two special days while he claims her nonstop in front of me our home without limits.

I'd love to have a therapist to talk to about this stuff... Did you just Google cuckold therapist or how did you find her?

[Rogueuser1]

I am glad to see you back and posting - I wish you a speedy recovery and that you and your fiance continue to communicate!

[Dream Weaver]

Here's the vibe I'm getting. I say this with a 29 year marriage where she did do it for me and the went cold on the idea again. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out different ways to make it happen again.

My main "red flag" I see in how you go about it: You are trying to "convince" her. Some wives might do it just to get the spouse off their back, but most won't. And then you push harder and they resent it.

Possible Solutions (Because I'm a guy and I love solutions) but take it with a grain of salt because yeah, my wife gave it "the old college try" for 13 years then basically shut it down. I'm also assuming A BUNCH. I might be completely off. But I see the trajectory and your attempts.

1. Take a break from the fantasy. She needs to reset so it's not a trigger for basically a dry pussy. My brutally honest take.

2. Concentrate on doing what you normally know is successful for nice sex sessions. If you don't want her to feel good, I honestly think you don't love her. She's not a toy to be manipulated. Again, sorry if too "forward".

3. You have already told her what you want. She knows. You can stop telling her. Seriously. But like most people, it's not like she wakes up and there's some potential candidate wanting into her pants that she finds interesting. Life has to happen.

3a. Assuming you want to "jumpstart" the process and get her to get a dating account or do some swinging lifestyle event... well goodluck with that. She's saying no. I think point 3 is the more likely scenerio for success.

4. Get off porn. If you can't get it up around her without her saying some bullshit scenario fantasy you have, you have a problem. Your dick needs to get hard around your wife or she will find you pointless. Then your sex life will be truly miserable. You aren't deep in cuck heaven where she has her lover and can happily ignore you and it's an some awesome treat. You aren't even at stage 1. Bad sex is simply bad for all involved.

My biggest regret was pushing too hard after she actually did it. I couldn't help myself. I had a friend "in the lifestyle" who warned me I was making a huge mistake. I rolled the dice thinking I'd get a quick repeat success. Nope.

My 2nd biggest regret was pushing her away when she didn't give me what I wanted. I got upset and turned it into a "not dead, but on life support" bedroom. It took years to correct that, and then we got back to something that was more traditional and lately I've taken some advice from some people here and it's gotten even better (dirty talk success) because I simply "shut the fuck up" and when she said positives things, I said "Thank you" and variants of "that was awesome". And no more. No pushing. Positive, sincere appreciation for cuck dirty talk, even when it's just a little nugget. Somebody told me that she will enjoy turning me on, the control of doing that. Sometimes she asks me questions, prodding me to fill in blanks. I barely fill in the blanks. I show contrition for being a big mouth controlling asshole in the past, by being a man of few words, happy to contribute only when asked.

Sure, it took a long time, but when she was finally getting back into a sexytime mood where I was taking care of her needs, she started melting a little bit. I'm the happiest I've been in years.

Anyway, good luck! My thoughts/advice applied to my situation, but I think you might recognize some of this might apply to you.

And seriously, you might think "how is anything going to happen if I don't bring this up?" You would be surprised, but it won't happen overnight. You already laid the groundwork, you hear the phrase "planted the seed" for a reason. You don't water it with a firehouse. Sometimes you don't water it at all, it's fine. Some normies out there might be like "dude, you told her to cheat on you? Are you fucking crazy? She probably will!" Yeah, they are right and your time will come. You already made that bed!

[js117]

Here's the vibe I'm getting. I say this with a 29 year marriage where she did do it for me and the went cold on the idea again...

I'm not sure how uxorious feels about it, but I appreciate the way you shared your experience. I find your points helpful and insightful to my own situation. Thank you for sharing!

[Dream Weaver]

Here's the vibe I'm getting. I say this with a 29 year marriage where she did do it for me and the went cold on the idea again...

I'm not sure how uxorious feels about it, but I appreciate the way you shared your experience. I find your points helpful and insightful to my own situation. Thank you for sharing!

Glad to help! I realize it's really hard to not 'project' when giving advice. I really only know my situation and a few friends who may or may not have given me "the whole story". And like many here, I totally relate when somebody is having a tough, frustrating time of it - it's easy to feel lost and unappreciated. I really needed that independent voice telling me to do the things I thought were stupid or unimportant. They told me this kink can be like trying to pet a cat. So easy to scare the cat away, you have to be really careful, but it can be done. Some guys insist they want to be submissive, but they want to talk talk talk and dictate what she says and wants which is basically not submissive at all, only controlling. You must truly be submissive (but don't forget to reward her behavior and talk that you like with appropriate thankfulness and appreciation).

I think it really, really helps when your wife loves you and wants to make it work. But no matter who it is, most of the time her fantasy is not his fantasy. Those who's wives are into it pretty quick are really lucky. It's not normal. That doesn't mean it can't happen, but it really means you have to tread carefully and with respect. You can easily do damage and go back two steps. But it's also repairable, usually.