Reignite the Flame

[newUK]

It’s all sounding very promising and exciting!

I hope it develops into something for you :-)

[QuietHope]

This may sound a bit sad but I wanted to see what it felt like to publicly claim to be a cuck. I was in a bar in NYC, late, and a bit drunk, and my beautiful wife was on my phone screen saver. There was a group of young guys, 20s, beside me and we were initially talking about the NBA playoffs when one mentioned the beauty on my phone.

I then took a deep breath and told them that I was actually having a very erotic experience at that very moment. They looked at me quizzically and I claimed that at that very moment, another man was with my wife in my hotel room. After clarifying that she wasn't cheating but that I had helped arrange it, they were extremely interested. They were all pretty open minded about it-not nearly as humiliating as I expected-although who knows what they were thinking but not saying. I got a lot of "whatever gets you off bud" and "now you got a hall pass" comments. The best was when they looked at her photo and said that I should let them know next time around.

Of course, I know I was faking it. Sorry, I know its kind of pathetic. I hadn't planned it. Just a drunken whim.

[Dream Weaver]

This may sound a bit sad but I wanted to see what it felt like to publicly claim to be a cuck. I was in a bar in NYC, late, and a bit drunk, and my beautiful wife was on my phone screen saver. There was a group of young guys, 20s, beside me and we were initially talking about the NBA playoffs when one mentioned the beauty on my phone.

I then took a deep breath and told them that I was actually having a very erotic experience at that very moment. They looked at me quizzically and I claimed that at that very moment, another man was with my wife in my hotel room. After clarifying that she wasn't cheating but that I had helped arrange it, they were extremely interested. They were all pretty open minded about it-not nearly as humiliating as I expected-although who knows what they were thinking but not saying. I got a lot of "whatever gets you off bud" and "now you got a hall pass" comments. The best was when they looked at her photo and said that I should let them know next time around.

Of course, I know I was faking it. Sorry, I know its kind of pathetic. I hadn't planned it. Just a drunken whim.

Not pathetic at all. Courageous. And I think you'll find out lots of guys are way more understanding then you'd ever dream and if you run across some asshole, fuck them.

[QuietHope]

So she got asked out on a date and she accepted! (Don't get too excited for me yet)

We have a close group of couple friends (7-8 couples) and we pretty regularly get together for dinner or drinks. Most entering or nearing the empty nest stage of life. Last night at dinner, "JJ", the oldest husband (late 60s and 15+ years older than my wife), asked my wife out in front of everyone.

Its not the bombshell it might sound like. JJ is a cultured sophisticated guy and my wife is a highly educated intellectual herself. He announced he had tickets to an upcoming opera and then asked would she go with him. People did laugh and there were a few jokes like "I didn't see the key bowl when I came in" but I don't think it looked scandalous at all. JJ's wife has been pretty open that she's sick of the opera. People looked at me and I shrugged and said I don't care if she wants to go, its not my decision what she does. She looked at her calendar and said yes and that was that. Not another mention.

So...now...digging into my little cuckold wannabe twisted brain...a few nuggets..

1. I was immediately turned on and distracted the rest of the evening even though I knew very well that this really isn't going to lead to anything. I kept imagining scenarios...you know what I'm talking about

2. When we got home into bed, I couldn't help but express my excitement and she rolled her eyes. Nonetheless, we did do a little roleplay and she clearly saw how excited I was. She got pretty wet too although I can't say I know what was in her mind.

3. I think she was surprised when I was hard and talking about things like how she should do her hair and what dress to wear. She knows about my cuck desires but I don't think she realized that it extended beyond the sexual act. Honestly, I'm not sure if she liked or disliked this added wrinkle.

4. When I said something like, "I know JJ is older and not your type but lets at least role with the fantasy", she did get a little defensive of JJ saying he's charming in his way and handsome for an older man. So you know...there's a spark. Keep in mind she good friends with his wife and we have no reason to think they swing or anything like that (although we don't know that they definitely don't).

5. I need to play this very cool and given the relationships, I know this won't develop into anything, but I'm hoping for a little something. I'm thinking of encouraging her to dress up-they're going to a fancy dinner and the opera after all-and JJ is a nice guy and doesn't he deserve the pleasure of being out on the town with a younger beautiful woman? And that's fun for her too, right? I imagine his eyes on her, his hand on her back guiding her through the crowd...people thinking they're married...

6. Would it be too much if I suggested she give him a solid good night kiss as a thank you?

7. Part of me wonders if about the chances of JJ being on these boards and recognizing the situation...if so...you know I couldn't publicly say it to you or her...but make your move buddy...make your move...

I don't think a "normal" person would be giving this 2 thoughts and she doesn't seem to be thinking about it at all...but I wonder if JJ is...and I'm ridiculously turned on...

[Dream Weaver]

So she got asked out on a date and she accepted! (Don't get too excited for me yet)

We have a close group of couple friends (7-8 couples) and we pretty regularly get together for dinner or drinks. Most entering or nearing the empty nest stage of life. Last night at dinner, "JJ", the oldest husband (late 60s and 15+ years older than my wife), asked my wife out in front of everyone.

Its not the bombshell it might sound like. JJ is a cultured sophisticated guy and my wife is a highly educated intellectual herself. He announced he had tickets to an upcoming opera and then asked would she go with him. People did laugh and there were a few jokes like "I didn't see the key bowl when I came in" but I don't think it looked scandalous at all. JJ's wife has been pretty open that she's sick of the opera. People looked at me and I shrugged and said I don't care if she wants to go, its not my decision what she does. She looked at her calendar and said yes and that was that. Not another mention.

So...now...digging into my little cuckold wannabe twisted brain...a few nuggets..

1. I was immediately turned on and distracted the rest of the evening even though I knew very well that this really isn't going to lead to anything. I kept imagining scenarios...you know what I'm talking about

2. When we got home into bed, I couldn't help but express my excitement and she rolled her eyes. Nonetheless, we did do a little roleplay and she clearly saw how excited I was. She got pretty wet too although I can't say I know what was in her mind.

3. I think she was surprised when I was hard and talking about things like how she should do her hair and what dress to wear. She knows about my cuck desires but I don't think she realized that it extended beyond the sexual act. Honestly, I'm not sure if she liked or disliked this added wrinkle.

4. When I said something like, "I know JJ is older and not your type but lets at least role with the fantasy", she did get a little defensive of JJ saying he's charming in his way and handsome for an older man. So you know...there's a spark. Keep in mind she good friends with his wife and we have no reason to think they swing or anything like that (although we don't know that they definitely don't).

5. I need to play this very cool and given the relationships, I know this won't develop into anything, but I'm hoping for a little something. I'm thinking of encouraging her to dress up-they're going to a fancy dinner and the opera after all-and JJ is a nice guy and doesn't he deserve the pleasure of being out on the town with a younger beautiful woman? And that's fun for her too, right? I imagine his eyes on her, his hand on her back guiding her through the crowd...people thinking they're married...

6. Would it be too much if I suggested she give him a solid good night kiss as a thank you?

7. Part of me wonders if about the chances of JJ being on these boards and recognizing the situation...if so...you know I couldn't publicly say it to you or her...but make your move buddy...make your move...

I don't think a "normal" person would be giving this 2 thoughts and she doesn't seem to be thinking about it at all...but I wonder if JJ is...and I'm ridiculously turned on...

You and I and every other guy knows he wouldn't have invited her if he didn't like her "like that". That being said, it gets her used to the idea of going out with somebody else which is nice!

[QuietHope]

You and I and every other guy knows he wouldn't have invited her if he didn't like her "like that". That being said, it gets her used to the idea of going out with somebody else which is nice!

You are totally right. He's a straight guy and she's beautiful. He could have invited anyone else or even me. But he wanted her.

Also, its occurred to me that how he did it was sly and likely premeditated (go JJ!). He asked it loudly and in front of everyone. If I had been the kind of guy to object, I'd have looked like an a-hole. Even his wife wasn't in a position to protest. Furthermore, I think my wife wanted to show a little independence, too. That she wasn't "obedient housewife" who needed her husband's approval.

What kills me is that I know she will downplay the evening. She say it was fun, talk about the dinner and performance and maybe a little about the conversation with JJ. What I will want to know is..did he touch her...where...how often..how was he looking at her...did he tell people she's his date or girlfriend...the details of the goodnight hug...or kiss

[vb23456]

When is her date?

[QuietHope]

When is her date?

That was thrilling to just read. A week from Tuesday. A weeknight which does put a cap on how late it can go.

[leggysman]

I hope it turns out to be a titillating night for everyone.

Who knows - given a bit of a spark, and a wife who knows she has a hall pass? Either way, the journey to a being a hotwife requires a sequence of steps. This sounds like a step. Her seeing you excited by the date is probably good encouragement

[QuietHope]

I hope it turns out to be a titillating night for everyone.

Who knows - given a bit of a spark, and a wife who knows she has a hall pass? Either way, the journey to a being a hotwife requires a sequence of steps. This sounds like a step. Her seeing you excited by the date is probably good encouragement

So, our sexual activity has taken a step up these last 48 hours-she must clearly sense that I'm turned on. Is it good that she knows how turned on I am or would it be better to not touch her and have her build up that sexual energy?

I haven't actually mentioned anything since the first night. I don't want to press and have her get angry. I was thinking that the night before the date, I would joke a little, ask what she's wearing, mention that I'm sure JJ would enjoy her being dressed up and he's taking her to a fancy restaurant. Should I say something about giving him a good night kiss...or blow job lol.

[leggysman]

I think it depends; is she the sort of person who, the more sex she gets, the more she wants?

Leggysandy and I are both like that. We're both more likely to be horny the day after we've had sex. If we don't follow through (small children, argh) for ~3 days then we both cool off a bit. It takes until about day 7 then before we're both feeling withdrawal symptoms. So, it's best for us if we're doing it at least every other day.

I think it's very good for her to know that you're turned on by it

Joking about it is a delicate line to walk, isn't it? Sometimes it's well-received, and sometimes it comes across as pestering. I guess you're the one who's best able to judge how Sophia will react to a given joke, at a particular time. I found I had to pick my moments - but then, when I did it right, it tended to help move things in a good direction.

Given all you've said, I think it's probably best not to assume anything physical will happen on this date. You never know, but it's better to be pleasantly surprised, than disappointed! If the date goes well, and it they're both feeling it, then the date could sow the seed for something to happen later. Or maybe it could cause her to ponder going on dates with some other fellow(s) she might have been fancying. You never know!

Good luck

[QuietHope]

Given all you've said, I think it's probably best not to assume anything physical will happen on this date. You never know, but it's better to be pleasantly surprised, than disappointed! If the date goes well, and it they're both feeling it, then the date could sow the seed for something to happen later. Or maybe it could cause her to ponder going on dates with some other fellow(s) she might have been fancying. You never know!

Good luck

Yes, I think its best to let her know I'm hot for what's happening and to keep her mind in a sexual place-more sex please!

I'll be careful about the jokes-totally something i would f up.

And I would love it if they started to see each other every so often, if they became friends. Normalize it so she can have other male friends.

Thank you for the thoughts. I'm going around it in my head.

[QuietHope]

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

[leggysman]

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

Well then, the smart move would be some surprise pussy licking while the opera track plays. Sexy innuendos about her date at your discretion

[Coolcalm]

What about the Aaron texting situation? Those texts were so hot. Did she have any other sessions you could share? What about when he’s home for the holidays?
But damn your wife is so sexy and this spite burn is so erotic!

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

[QuietHope]

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

Well then, the smart move would be some surprise pussy licking while the opera track plays. Sexy innuendos about her date at your discretion

Oh..I like that

[QuietHope]

What about the Aaron texting situation? Those texts were so hot. Did she have any other sessions you could share? What about when he’s home for the holidays?
But damn your wife is so sexy and this spite burn is so erotic!

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

Aaron has been in Italy for the seester...not sure when he gets home...maybe for teh summer? I will find out

[Coolcalm]

And the sexting sessions?

What about the Aaron texting situation? Those texts were so hot. Did she have any other sessions you could share? What about when he’s home for the holidays?
But damn your wife is so sexy and this spite burn is so erotic!

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

Aaron has been in Italy for the seester...not sure when he gets home...maybe for teh summer? I will find out

[leggysman]

Oh...as I was typing, she turned on the soundtrack of the opera they're going to! Which is a normal thing to do. But now the passion of that music is filling my home. I feel like I'm in a movie set.

Well then, the smart move would be some surprise pussy licking while the opera track plays. Sexy innuendos about her date at your discretion

Oh..I like that

While I'm thinking about the subject, for anyone who hasn't done this much:

A guerilla pussy licking campaign is most effective (and enjoyable) when she knows that these sneak attacks are no-strings; that it's not just foreplay; that you don't have any expectations of more sex - it's just pussy licking, because you want to. For her.

When you surprise her like this, it's much easier to get her into it - and her panties on the floor - if she knows that when she taps out, you'll let her get on with whatever she was doing. She'll love this quickie, bonus sexytime.

I mean, you'd enjoy that too, right? Who wouldn't?

[QuietHope]

No update other than to say my fever remains high...although I absolutely know that nothing is going to happen on this date next week.

After sex last night-third day in a row, above our typical pace-I said "I know its just a friendly thing but I can't help it-the idea of you going on a date, no matter what the circumstance, is huge turn on." She didn't really say anything but she wasn't upset. I don't know if she's being coy or she's just letting me enjoy my imaginings.

At dinner tonight, I also commented on the opera music she had on yesterday saying that it is really passionate and then she mentioned that JJ texted her and they set up time and plans for him to pick her up and told what restaurant they are going to. She insisted on paying for their dinner which he accepted.

I am going to wait until the weekend before I ask her what she's going to wear. I was thinking I should say that while I know JJ has no intentions, he's bound to enjoy the idea of being with a younger beautiful woman and so it'd be nice of her to play the part. People will think she's his wife and why not let him enjoy that fantasy? Does that sound benign?

Also, unfortunately, I am going to be away on business that night, for the whole week. But maybe that's for the best, too. I won't be pressuring her. I was thinking that when she drops me off at the airport, I should kiss her and make a joke about her giving him a goodnight kiss. Again, maybe too much?

On the other hand, I am also trying to think about the long game. Maybe best to be as hands off as possible and just hope they have fun together. Maybe they can date regularly if they become friends? Or maybe she'll just get accustomed to the idea of going on a date with another guy so it won't be much of a leap to do it with someone more promising? I have a habit of pushing for too much too soon so maybe this route is better.

I feel like a teenager over analyzing everything.

[BallSpanking]

You being away that week gives Sophia an opportunity for intimacy, extending to the next morning if she wants it, and ideal HW scenario, even if this is just in her fantasy ...
I think the premise of a married woman going on a date with a handsome, well off, educated, older man, turns her on.
Planting a seed re. her behaving like his wife, acting close and affectionate in public, is something she would/could enjoy ...
And if she is aware you encourage her to be 'his wife' in private, could make for a nice smooth segue, allowing her to ease into the role.
Make up a naturally evolving story of closeness, including dinner and opera, ending between the sheets.
If you get her to cum to that concept, it could result in her date 'planting his seed'.

[leggysman]

On the other hand, I am also trying to think about the long game. Maybe best to be as hands off as possible and just hope they have fun together.

IMO you should listen to this instinct. She knows you're excited, and your sex life is demonstrating that to her.

Anything more could seem like pushiness. I'd say, definitely do not ask her about what she's going to wear (my wife hates that, for example, even when she's literally going straight to a hotel to fuck someone). Joking about a kiss is probably going too far. Maybe in parting, a kiss and a cheeky "I really hope you have lots of fun on your date" and a wink. She'll know what you mean. Beyond that, I think you have to let her be in control of whatever happens - without any pressure.

[kokomo21]

I agree with leggy man, less is more, give her space, let her imagination do the playing

[Tryn]

Maybe ask her if she’s open to playing a bit of a game with you while you’re away. A game where you and she play that it’s a real date. She could dress the part, maybe no bra or panties or a sexy dress and heels. Specifically the game is she texts you facts and fiction without you knowing which is which. Point being you won’t know if she’s being naughty and sexual with JJ or not while you’re away, but you get to live in the fantasy that she is. Then when you get home you have to say what you think the facts and fiction were and she tells you if you’re right or wrong. It will help to put her mind into that mode of thinking on her date and you two can have fun together with it!

[QuietHope]

You guys are awesome!

I was sold on the the idea of being very hands off but Tryn's idea is pretty fantastic and still very low key. I could suggest it and worst case, she could just reject it and I could shrug it off. If she does it, it might even put it into her mind to do something daring just to be able to say a truth and fool me, haha.