Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:13 pm

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It should be very clear by now that She needs to fuck your friend with the foot-fetish to get satisfied. Don't you want Her to be able to experience that?
Again, I struggle with the "want" word. If she wants to so much and considers what it will put me through and takes that responsibility onboard to execute it in as pain-free a way for me as she can, I will respect that.
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Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:29 am
Aren't you incredibly lucky to have found this one-in-a-million babe?
I don't think I'm able to fully appreciate it right now but I can somehow imagine looking back on this and feeling lucky. It seems to be how others talk about similar experiences in their pasts.
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Personally, I would much rather be in cuckold's shoes than the bull's shoes.
Why is that?
elina wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:29 am
You can also look at this as a friend who is helping you ensure that your beloved Girlfriend can also satisfy some of Her sexual cravings that you are not able to fulfill yourself, then She can continue to be your very Happy Girlfriend. Think of it; isn't that what a good friend should do? ;)
That idea hurts me in many different ways at once.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:26 pm

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The thing I found for me, as a wife craving to be submissive and not in control, if I actually have control in that I can stop the action at any time, it completely loses the turn on. If you want to be submissive to your wife and her lovers, you got to just let it flow wherever it leads. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's what I needed to make it work.
I think that's essentially what I've come to realise this week. That I just need to trust her with it and know that she's doing it with the best intentions for both of us. If I feel like I'm fighting for control, it's more difficult. I think I'm extremely reluctant to use the safe word or even consider it because, like you say, "it loses the turn on". I feel like the safe word concept is more for her benefit than mine, so that she can be more confident that she isn't going too far.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by BallSpanking » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:49 pm

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Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:26 pm
I think that's essentially what I've come to realise this week. That I just need to trust her with it and know that she's doing it with the best intentions for both of us. If I feel like I'm fighting for control, it's more difficult. I think I'm extremely reluctant to use the safe word or even consider it because, like you say, "it loses the turn on". I feel like the safe word concept is more for her benefit than mine, so that she can be more confident that she isn't going too far.
I think you are right. You are the one lobbying for this to happen, so you need to be completely OK with trusting her, and knowing she will do the right ting by her and by you. Trust her, if you set it up right it will happen quite organically.
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by mrs_hotwifecplsa » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:06 pm

BallSpanking wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:49 pm
anondesires wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:26 pm
I think that's essentially what I've come to realise this week. That I just need to trust her with it and know that she's doing it with the best intentions for both of us. If I feel like I'm fighting for control, it's more difficult. I think I'm extremely reluctant to use the safe word or even consider it because, like you say, "it loses the turn on". I feel like the safe word concept is more for her benefit than mine, so that she can be more confident that she isn't going too far.
I think you are right. You are the one lobbying for this to happen, so you need to be completely OK with trusting her, and knowing she will do the right ting by her and by you. Trust her, if you set it up right it will happen quite organically.
100% this. Trust her. Deep inside she knows what she wants and what she will allow. She knows how far it will go. but like BallSpanking said, it must be set up right. The set up is everything.

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Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:13 pm

Being a day out of sync is annoying, hopefully I'll catch up at some point.

Yesterday (Saturday) she told me that she had done some shopping. She had done it a week or so ago and it had turned up the day I had a bit of a mental breakdown so she didn't mention it until now. She revealed another big dildo, similar to the one we already have but brown or "bbc". She said I seemed to struggle with sucking the white one and understands why. She thought it might be easier with this one.

I was just a bit dumbstruck, didn't know what to say. I was concerned that she seemed to be on a mission to have me suck a cock for her and I once again explained to her that this wasn't part of the fantasy for me, not something I wanted to do. She said she does believe me but this is about something I can do for her. She put into context all the work she had done to understand what the fantasy was for me and how she can indulge me with it all. All I needed to do was suck a dildo for her to get a similar thrill. "Is that too much to ask?". She had a point, I suppose.

I commented on how she had called it shopping as if it was more than 1 thing. She smiled and said some of it was surprises and about being prepared. She told me she had bought some new lingerie. She pulled out some black and pink lingerie with little pink bows, it looked hot, I wanted to see her try it on. She insisted she'd already tried it on and it fit perfectly, I would have to wait for her to wear it with intent rather than spoil the surprise. My mind went off on a little tangent. The bows made it seem like she was gift-wrapping herself, "who was the gift for?" I wondered. The thought that she might have bought this sexy lingerie to give herself to my friend really fucked with my mind. The thought of him unwrapping this gift and then remembering that I hadn't got to undress her the night before really twisted knots in my stomach.

I asked if she bought anything else. She thought about it and said the rest would be better as surprises or if or when they became relevant. That sounded scary. She added that if I was ever having trouble controlling myself to let her know (with a devilish grin). I said "you've bought a chastity cage, haven't you?". She laughed equally devilish and admitted she might have. I asked to see it, I'd never seen one or understood how they worked. She said it was only a cheap one, given that neither of us were into the idea. She said she couldn't believe how expensive they were.

She presented me with a bag of clear plastic parts, like it was some sort of puzzle to figure out. We went about trying to figure out how it went together and hypothesising about how it would go on. Eventually I found myself demonstrating with my dick and balls how I thought it went together. I then had to figure out which size ring and which length of lock pin. I tried them all and compared, finally settling on a configuration that seemed snug enough but not painful. The padlock had been hanging open each time to hold it in place. As I inspected the tightness, she took it upon herself to lock the padlock. This padlock looked like it came out of a christmas cracker, like a flat screwdriver would open it but suddenly the intent of her action carried feeling.

I pointed out that I just wanted to see how it fit and how it worked. She agreed that's what we were doing. I said we had figured it out now, I described how it felt very snug and weird and said she could unlock it now. She said we hadn't figured out how it worked yet. She reached into her underwear and started touching herself. She gave me a tease show and speech about how it felt good to touch herself, how we could both pleasure her right now but nobody could pleasure me. She told me her pussy was free and vulnerable to be fucked by any guy except me. My hands found themselves trying to find a way of touching myself but it was futile. I admitted it was frustrating, having no outlet for my arousal. She said I would learn to channel my frustration into pleasuring her, I could see how that would be true.

She spread her legs and I went down on her. Usually I might be touching myself as I go down on her and/or be hoping for her to touch me or be thinking about when she might. It became apparent that nothing would be touching me, I was restricted to the restrained feeling I had and the focus was on her. Honestly, it wasn't a bad experience but after a while I was thinking we were done with it, time to take it off.

She said we weren't done yet. She suctioned her new dildo to the nearest door at around standing cock height. She beckoned me over, invited me to make out with her, both kneeling in front of it, my dick still locked away. She started to suck on the dildo. Seeing her suck a black dick stirred some thoughts in me, so much cuckolding porn is bbc focussed after all. I knew she had had black dick before and that was in the back of my mind too.

I told her I could go find a screwdriver to take the lock off. She pointed out I didn't even need to do that, I could just use the safe word but I hadn't. She pointed out that my threat to find a screwdriver was like me pleading. Thinking about it as I write it, it was kind of symbolic that I was looking for an exit or a way to cheat my fate, there seemed to be a pattern of me looking for exits instead of just dealing with or accepting things.

She went back to sucking and touching herself, she knew it was turning me on to watch her. She came back to make out with me again. She drew me closer to the head of it as we kissed until it was pushing into the side of our kissing, eventually pushing our lips apart and we were touching tongues around the head of it. The kissing and tonguing had kind of made me forget what we were symbolically doing (kneeling in front of a man and kissing/tonguing his dick). I tried to not think of it that way and went back to enjoying the moment between me and her. I don't think I need to go into all of the details but she enjoyed it and made herself cum.

She then told me to lay on the floor, she straddled my face in a way so that I could see her suck it from below. I tried to touch myself, again realising that I couldn't. There was a lot going on, it's difficult to explain other than it was a really erotic experience. I made her cum, she unlocked me, thanked me for indulging her fantasy and we had sex.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by mrs_hotwifecplsa » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:35 pm

anondesires wrote:
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She came back to make out with me again. She drew me closer to the head of it as we kissed until it was pushing into the side of our kissing, eventually pushing our lips apart and we were touching tongues around the head of it. The kissing and tonguing had kind of made me forget what we were symbolically doing (kneeling in front of a man and kissing/tonguing his dick). I tried to not think of it that way and went back to enjoying the moment between me and her. I don't think I need to go into all of the details but she enjoyed it and made herself cum.
That is my favorite way to kiss my husband.. with a Bull's cock between our lips! She is taking you to a very good place.. she wants to share the experience with you. Relax and enjoy it. She will become a different person before your eyes, and you will love her even more.

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Unread post by elina » Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:07 am

Thank you Anondesires for updating.

Whatever book your Girlfriend got hold of to learn how to cuckold Her man, she for sure seems to be a fast learner.
Maybe you should be a good boy now and buy Her flowers.
Tell how much you love Her.

Looking forward to hear what happened on Sunday,

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Unread post by leander99 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:25 am

Anon, you need to stop fighting her, and just go with it.
You do know what will happen. Just surrender. Protesting will not change anything.

Resisting only turns her on. Which is most likely why she is progressing so fast.
The more you fight, the deeper she will go.
So just give in, and she will probably slow down a bit. If you are lucky.

Or not, but that is irrelevant, she is going to get what she wants either way.

You already know that.

NB: you should also tell her to investigate "FLR relationships".
But let her google this herself, and stay away. Just tell her and give her space to let her do her magic.
Let her figure it out.

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Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:46 am

mrs_hotwifecplsa wrote:
Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:35 pm
That is my favorite way to kiss my husband.. with a Bull's cock between our lips! She is taking you to a very good place.. she wants to share the experience with you. Relax and enjoy it. She will become a different person before your eyes, and you will love her even more.
It turns me on that you make him do that but then I remember that she wants to make me do that too and suddenly it doesn't seem like the same thing! The kissing was actually enjoyable, I loved how into it she was. We agreed that it was probably the best making out we've done in a long time. There was also an element of togetherness about it. When I'd done it before, it felt like I was doing something for her, in isolation, I felt alone with my thoughts. This felt like we were doing something together, albeit something she enjoys but I get some enjoyment from her enjoyment of it (sharing the experience with me, as you say). Figuring out the chastity also felt like that, like a mini teambuilding exercise :lol:

I don't think I mind so much doing it on a dildo just for her to get turned on by, it seems harmless enough and an easy way to turn her on a lot. She says the dildo is enough for her but I can't help feel that this may lead to her expecting the real thing. A part of me feels like she's getting me used to this in training for the real thing and that is where most of my resistance to it comes from. How did you get into doing this? Did you build him up to it? Was he against the idea at the start? Or maybe, put another way, if you were her, do you think you'd be wanting/expecting/training me to do it for real some day but be playing it down right now?

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Unread post by Watchinu69 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:22 am

Dudes, get over it - it's a plastic toy that turns on your women in your bedroom... If you don't want to suck a real dick- like every straight man out there- then don't do it- tell her once and for all and move on already ...the constant whining about what you don't want is nauseating...you have a women that's a sexual being in nature, Just enjoy what you have and make her happy already

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Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:47 am

So on Friday night, we had had that conversation, circling around between various options of finding a regular guy for her and discussing pros/cons of each. She pointed out that I didn't use the safe word on the concept of coming clean to my friend and then we had sex which had kind of finished the conversation. I had felt like the conversation would resume at some point, continuing weighing up the options. On Saturday, when the conversation resumed, there was no mention of other options. She was like a dog with a bone, I wanted to bring up considering other options but the moment never came without feeling like I would be stealing her thunder.

He was coming over Sunday afternoon. Saturday and Sunday morning were discussions about how this could work. There were suggestions (from both of us in turn) that we could maybe trick him or play games. They seemed like easier ways to deal with the awkwardness but there would be an inevitable second phase where we would have to come clean anyway. We would always come back to this idea we had days ago about a "circle of trust". All 3 of us having secret desires that we could indulge each other with, it made sense, in theory, but the idea of it actually happening was unimaginably gut wrenching. There was a lot of talk of different ways of putting it to him but always me stressing how much I didn't want this. She had stopped pointing out that I was pleading and not safe wording but we both looked at each other and knew. The safe word felt like something I'd save until it was imminent. Until then, maybe there was another option, maybe I could reason with her, maybe she wouldn't go through with it.

She looked like she was dressed for the beach when he came over but, in fairness, she had been wearing the same thing all day, just a bikini and a short thin dress. She was extremely bubbly, happy and flirty the whole time he was there. She was taking every opportunity to tease both of us with her body and him with her bare feet. He seemed to deflect most of her attempts to flirt but I did witness him slap her ass when they were both in the kitchen. There was a lot of tension. Every time she spoke, I worried that she was going to bring the subject up, but she didn't. The thought looping through my head was to remember to use the safe word, followed by thoughts of how weird and awkward I would look for blurting out the safe word. I then considered that that meant I was more worried about blurting out a word than getting cucked. Those thoughts wrestled it out throughout the afternoon.

At one point, she left to go to the toilet and he commented on how lucky I was and "the things [he] would do...". I laughed but considered that he had no idea that there was nothing stopping him from doing those things, it was only him that was stopping it, he just had to let his foot off of the brake. I changed the subject a little and asked about his dates. He said he had seen the same girl for the last 3 weekends. I asked if things were getting serious between them, he wasn't sure. He said they were both still on the app they found each other on but neither of them had met anyone else in that time. I asked if she felt like relationship material, he wasn't sure and wasn't overthinking it. He said she was a nice girl, that the sex was good, he was enjoying it so far and thinks she is too. I wondered if she was part of the reason he seemed to deflect the flirting more than usual.

Ultimately, I was relieved after he left that nothing had happened, I had been so tense the whole time. She was disappointed, in herself mostly. She said she wanted to bring it up but couldn't bring herself to. She said she knew how much was at stake and she got scared. I relayed the conversation about the girl he was seeing and she got even more disappointed. I felt bad for her but realised I felt bad for her having not done something that I didn't want but we both felt a little disappointed nonetheless.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by viking53 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 4:37 am

Before all this started, how much had you and your GF discussed the future - getting married, starting a family? If you had started making those sort of plans, I think you need to bring them into your ongoing discussions now as well as it will give you a much more stable base to discuss what you want and how to integrate your cuckold fantasies and her sexual needs.

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Unread post by King_Mr » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:32 am

I honestly think the ‘circle of trust’ is the best way forward still. Be honest with your friend, and find out if he would be interested and what he’d want out of it. Try to find ways to get rid of the shame, and be proud that you’re taking control of your desires.

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Unread post by elina » Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:58 am

Dear Anondesires.

Sometimes, things does not work as expected.

Have you discussed with your Girlfriend what made Her hold back?
Did She because She was afraid She would push you beyond your limits?

Deep down, are you both happy nothing happened and a little sad for your Girlfriend at the same time?

Maybe you need to allow Her to see your friend on Her own, at least the first time?

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Unread post by wannabecUKold » Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:25 am

Thank you as ever for the update.
I think the usual way of getting over nerves like this is dutch courage for everyone: cocktails would be appropriate.

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Unread post by David52 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:00 pm

I read this thread through this morning and have been thinking about since. First, thank you for your razor sharp insight, honesty and clear writing. It is so rare.

First, please don’t beat yourself up. Any guy would be berserk and unsettled about what has happened to you in the past couple of months. There is no way to process something that for most of us took years. You need to figure out if you want to spend the rest of your life with this woman, or at least keep going. That said, I can understand how she has taken the game and run with it. You suspected she would. What I don’t understand is why she is so insistent on your friend as your third. It seems she has plenty of other options and you have made it clear he is a “no”.

I think it may be time for you to have a man to man with him. But, don’t go around your GF. Work out with her what you can share and not share with him. Have a couple of drinks, let him talk and listen. If you need to kick off the elephant, how about something like: “I really want to make this relationship work for the long term. But, we have recently talked about opening it up. It’s fun to think about but do I really want this for the long haul.”

He seems to value your friendship and may have some things he wants to tell you. Good luck and thanks for bringing us along.

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Unread post by MatureCouple » Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:22 pm

How about having a man-to-man talk with your friend about what has been going on between him and her? I'm sure she's already prepped him for this talk. Let him know that you want to clear the air. You're not going to assign blame, you just want the truth. You may tell him that you have a good idea of what went on, but want to hear it from him. If you think he is being totally honest with you, and you're okay with what he's told you, then move on to the talk suggested by @David52. Maybe you both can bare your feelings.

You may want to divide your "talk" into two sessions, so you can have time to process the information from the first session. If you're not angry or upset about what transpired between your friend and gf, let him know. If he values you and your friendship, he will be more apt to communicate if you both are being honest and open.

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Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:52 pm

viking53 wrote:
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Before all this started, how much had you and your GF discussed the future - getting married, starting a family? If you had started making those sort of plans, I think you need to bring them into your ongoing discussions now as well as it will give you a much more stable base to discuss what you want and how to integrate your cuckold fantasies and her sexual needs.
We haven't really discussed marriage and kids much other than that we both want them. We're not financially ready for those things yet. Now doesn't seem like the time (to me at least) to discuss those things. Wouldn't waiting until we figure this out and decide if it's what we want first be better?

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Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:00 pm

elina wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:58 am
Have you discussed with your Girlfriend what made Her hold back?
She was scared of fucking things up.
elina wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:58 am
Did She because She was afraid She would push you beyond your limits?
That's part of it. She wasn't confident she could do it without someone getting hurt.
elina wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:58 am
Deep down, are you both happy nothing happened and a little sad for your Girlfriend at the same time?
Basically, yes.
elina wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:58 am
Maybe you need to allow Her to see your friend on Her own, at least the first time?
That's already happened a few times and he's always been reluctant because of the guilt of going behind my back.

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Unread post by David52 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:09 pm

Ouch. When and how did you learn they are fucking?

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Unread post by David52 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:10 pm

Ouch. When and how did you learn they are fucking?

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Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:19 pm

David52 wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:00 pm
I read this thread through this morning and have been thinking about since. First, thank you for your razor sharp insight, honesty and clear writing. It is so rare.
Thanks for taking the time to read it all.
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What I don’t understand is why she is so insistent on your friend as your third. It seems she has plenty of other options and you have made it clear he is a “no”.
There are lots of reasons that make him the perfect option. We see him regularly. He's single. He seems to be qualified for the job. She finds him attractive enough physically but not attractive enough to get feelings for him. She's comfortable with him. We can trust him. He's the primary target of my fantasy. However, if something goes wrong, there'll be a lot of fallout and for me it would be so much more difficult to deal with than it being a stranger.
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I think it may be time for you to have a man to man with him. But, don’t go around your GF. Work out with her what you can share and not share with him. Have a couple of drinks, let him talk and listen. If you need to kick off the elephant, how about something like: “I really want to make this relationship work for the long term. But, we have recently talked about opening it up. It’s fun to think about but do I really want this for the long haul.”
We've been discussing these sorts of options. They're all difficult to consider though.
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Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:10 pm
Ouch. When and how did you learn they are fucking?
They haven't/aren't. If you're referring to where I said "That's already happened a few times and he's always been reluctant because of the guilt of going behind my back." I meant they've been alone together before with her teasing him, like last week when we tried to record something but nothing much happened.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:26 pm

MatureCouple wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:22 pm
How about having a man-to-man talk with your friend about what has been going on between him and her?
I'm not sure any good could come of that. He would go on the defensive and maybe blame her, then things would be a whole lot more awkward.
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I'm sure she's already prepped him for this talk.
Why do you think that?
MatureCouple wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:22 pm
You may want to divide your "talk" into two sessions, so you can have time to process the information from the first session. If you're not angry or upset about what transpired between your friend and gf, let him know. If he values you and your friendship, he will be more apt to communicate if you both are being honest and open.
You're assuming that his version will be different to what she's told me?

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Unread post by mrs_hotwifecplsa » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:32 pm

anondesires wrote:
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Part of me wants to break up with her, move away and reset myself, find a girl that doesn't need more than I can offer. Is that normal? But then my head decides that if I'm breaking up with her, I should experience my friend fucking her first and pretend that I broke up with her for cheating. I hate this.
Completely normal feelings. If you really love her, and she really love you, you both can get through this. Once you both accept that you can't satisfy her in the way she needs, but you still really love each other and instead of worrying about what you can't change, you find a way to give her what she needs.. and have FUN doing it. It becomes a game that you both play.. the other guy is just a toy for her pleasure. Setting up the endless situations to play is a lot of fun, and seeing how she looks at you with pure love in her eyes because YOU were the one who understood what she truly needed instead of judging and rejecting her will amaze you.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by mrs_hotwifecplsa » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:35 pm

Sounds like a great first date to me. Everyone getting used to the idea of being together. Not every meeting needs to lead to sex. The build up is half the fun. Never be pushy is the important thing. If she wants to lead it, let it happen. More will come, trust me!

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