My girlfriend and her interest in other men

[Tolliver]

Thanks. I didn't really see it as anything crazy, but maybe that's because I've gotten used to her behavior. While we were standing there my brain went on a fantasy trip to the two of them getting hot and heavy, several times. On Saturday they had a date set up but my sister had a minor emergency so Rie called it off and we helped my sis with her car. I told her she was free to keep her date but she replied that it would be more fun if I was there. So we appear to be sharing the same fantasy to some degree, which was a very nice moment.

Her new friend Don is going out of town this weekend but she's going to go to his apartment for a meet and greet that will probably not last too long. I'm wondering exactly what might take place and keeping my fingers crossed maybe something will happen. He's doing both summer school sessions so access to him should not be a huge issue, assuming their relationship takes off like I think and hope it will.

[scarfolamew]

Honestly, the ability to simply walk into a store and conjure up a future sex partner is fucking wild. Lots of really hot women are completely unable to do that, despite what many would have you believe. Rie obviously has an astounding confidence and a keen gift for reading sexual signals in others.

I love how at home you feel in this lifestyle now. Your excitement is contagious. Good luck bro

[Tolliver]

Well last night RIe and Don officially became a thing. She dressed up in another short (black) skirt and tight white top with midriff showing. She had me drive her over to his place, then let me know she was going up alone and I was to wait in the car. She was up there for close to 2 hours. About an hour and 20 mins I sent her a text to check on her and she sent back saying she blew him once and was probably going to give him another one before leaving. I told her to have fun and promptly screenshotted the text. When she got back to the car she said she had a nice time and we left. Not sure when or if she'll see him again but I have to admit it was an exciting night even though I didn't get to see any of it.

[Rogueuser1]

Nice! Can't wait to hear what happened while she was with him - hopefully he took good care of her and gave her an orgasm (or six) too.

[OldChap]

Did she give you a passionate kiss when she got back to the car?

[hwc]

loving this so far!

[Tolliver]

She didn't have sex with him. Just gave him head twice. She has a kink for giving blowjobs, as she has admitted to me once months ago. No passionate kiss but she did tell me I was a "good boy" for taking her and waiting there and that I earned some TLC of my own, which she made good on.

I asked her when she was going to see him again and she told me it probably wasn't going to happen. She went on to outline the pros and cons. Yes he's a big cummer which she likes, but he wasn't as big or assertive as you know who (Big Mark ofc) nor did he have any interest in doing anything with me in the room. She then told me with a wry smile that she does so enjoy getting fucked silly with her future husband in the room. <3

Now here's the bad news. Mark has been asking to see her, either have her drive to him or meet at a motel halfway. She is clearly into this which concerns me. She went so far to say she will readily go without me because as much as she likes putting on a show for me, she does also just need to get laid. I didn't even think about suggesting I can try satisfying her. I am at peace with the fact that I can't.

She first hinted she might take off work and just go during the week, then said she might spend the night with him Friday or Saturday night at a hotel. So now of course I'm starting to get unhappy and jealous. I loved the idea of a situation we have more control over but she is slipping back into her old ways where Mark takes too much and I feel slighted.

[ucaneffher]

So now of course I'm starting to get unhappy and jealous. I loved the idea of a situation we have more control over but she is slipping back into her old ways where Mark takes too much and I feel slighted.

Warning: Sorry for the long response
Oftentimes this comes with being a cuckold, although not always as every couple has its own dynamic and personality.

In my single lifestyle experience of 7 years that took place well over a decade ago, I learned that the cuckold becomes a bit of a secondary contributor of decisions and it could be because he wants and likes to feel her in charge or she actually may be in charge.

In our relationship before the lifestyle I was in dominant and in charge, even during the first year or so into the lifestyle I was still calling the shots and sort of "directing" her to do things. It was nice being in control even when I wasn't the one fucking her.

After reading so many stories on here about the women taking full charge and the cuckolds having no say whatsoever and having no choice but to watch their women dive entirely into their single girl roles.

Eventually after 1 year into the lifestyle and having an already very promiscuous 20 year old girlfriend, I decided to sit her down and have the conversation and giving her all of the power and choice. I wanted to be like those cuckolds on here who would share stories of them holding on for dear life while their women called the shots entirely (similar to how Rie has from the very beginning- I like Rie's style a lot)

I started by telling her that I was giving her the freedom , power and choice to do whatever she wanted outside of our relationship. It didn't matter how far she went and how hard she pushed me to my limit. If I ever got jealous or crabby, to just console me but don't stop and keep pushing as long as she is comfortable and enjoying it. She was intrigued but doubtful and brought up scenarios of the times where she did push my limits in the past and how I would react angry or crabby and I told her that I didn't want her to stop and just keep moving forward. Told her that the goal was for me to adapt to her and I would eventually get over the jealousy of seeing my GF choosing the lifestyle and her other men over me.

She tested the waters a few times and I clearly failed but she was quick to point out my reactions and told me "See! you expect me to be in charge but you're still directing and getting jealous!" She did it several times to make me aware and eventually I learned to shut up and accept it. It sucked but it was becoming sexier each time that she made me feel powerless when picking another man and leaving me behind.

That was the beginning of my transition from stag into full blown cuckold. I finally was like one of the guys here who had a girlfriend with a overly active sexual appetite and was now carrying herself like a totally single and available girl with a cuckold boyfriend who had no say other than to see his gf getting picked up left and right and going away entire weekends at her discretion.

7 years in the lifestyle, 1 year old being a stag sharing his GF and 6 years of holding on for dear life as a cuckold whose girlfriend now lived to be with other men. In those 6 years she moved out to live with another man, would go on vacation with lovers, had two full time full blown relationships, cut me off and went sexually exclusive with her boyfriend, hell even got off birth control and didn't use protection while she was with him, she even went as far as demoting me to secret lover while she went fully public and dated him openly.

That conversation proved that she was only suppressing being in charge because once I told her to let go and enjoy, she turned me into the biggest cuck for 6 entire years. I had zero control and had to mold myself to her life with other men. I don't think this is what you want but it seems like you still find it a thrill so I'd say don't fight it. I'm hoping my current GF turns into a Rie and has me gripping for life while she is making me accept her choices to be with others just like Rie would make you accept her going to stay next door or bringing him over for dinner and making you accept that he was there to fuck her.

[Dream Weaver]

So now of course I'm starting to get unhappy and jealous. I loved the idea of a situation we have more control over but she is slipping back into her old ways where Mark takes too much and I feel slighted.

Warning: Sorry for the long response
Oftentimes this comes with being a cuckold, although not always as every couple has its own dynamic and personality.

In my single lifestyle experience of 7 years that took place well over a decade ago, I learned that the cuckold becomes a bit of a secondary contributor of decisions and it could be because he wants and likes to feel her in charge or she actually may be in charge.

In ….

I think more and more I’m realizing that stags enjoy being puppet masters.

[scarfolamew]

ucaneffher, what happened at the end of six years? Does the letting-go fantasy extend to losing her for real?

[nutjob]

I think more and more I’m realizing that stags enjoy being puppet masters.

Not to diminish cuckolding in any way, but some people just aren’t wired to enjoy denial, submission, and humiliation. That doesn’t make them puppet masters, it just makes them people who get off on being a part of their partner’s sexuality instead of people who get off on being separate from it.

[ucaneffher]

ucaneffher, what happened at the end of six years? Does the letting-go fantasy extend to losing her for real?

From year 3 until year 6 it was watching her publicly date him while I became her secret. She was completely his. For me it became more than I could handle even though I wanted her to not hold back. I got to a point where I asked her to ease off a bit or to leave him but she kept asking for time and telling me that I wanted it this. She told me that she liked where things were and wanted us to continue as is- her being his and me getting the scraps and left over free time when he was no available to her.

At that point, I wasn't ready for that type of arrangement and decided to break it off. Years later as I reflected on it, I regretted it and realized that I would've been happy being her cuckold on the side while he was her primary man. If he and I would've gotten along, that would've been a feasible scenario for me but since we hated each other, I know there was no possibility of me formally surrendering her to him and continuing as the cuckold on the side.

Looking at it from a 2025 perspective, I am still open to try that arrangement again but with better structure/communication as well as with a man more compatible with the lifestyle and who I actually get along with. In theory I liked and enjoyed watching her date and transition into becoming his but due to him and I not getting along, it made it rough.

If my current GF started dating, I'd want her boyfriend and I to get along and become good friends just in case their relationship evolves, I won't feel so weird letting him take over my role as her man. If he and I are good friends, I'd likely be happy to see him take over and become her main man while I accept my role and become her cuck/secondary man.

Not sure that this counts as losing her for real but I've often thought about that scenario above. Living in poly household where my wife and her boyfriend are the main couple and I'm mostly a spectator but still get time with my wife to keep our intimacy and connection but ultimately the 3 of us know that she is his and we all like it that way.

[Jeremie11231]

Hi Mark - I hope you guys are okay - any update? Did Rie end up going to visit Big Mark?

[Tolliver]

She did. We drove a few hours West and met him at a hotel. The two of them had a great time. Mark really has a way with her and she loves getting down and dirty with him. They got busy soon after meeting. She was extremely happy to see him (little bit jealous here) then we went to a nearby restaurant and sat at the bar for dinner. The two of them were kissing and even petting when the bartender stepped away. No need to worry about anyone knowing us out there. Then we went back to the hotel and they had an extended sex session that went on for hours with a few short breaks. Then bed, then in the morning they got busy again and we went our separate ways. I was present for everything although at some points during the night the lights were completely out, which I also thought was hot.

[Long Lurker 34]

ucaneffher, what happened at the end of six years? Does the letting-go fantasy extend to losing her for real?

From year 3 until year 6 it was watching her publicly date him while I became her secret. She was completely his. For me it became more than I could handle even though I wanted her to not hold back. I got to a point where I asked her to ease off a bit or to leave him but she kept asking for time and telling me that I wanted it this. She told me that she liked where things were and wanted us to continue as is- her being his and me getting the scraps and left over free time when he was no available to her.

At that point, I wasn't ready for that type of arrangement and decided to break it off. Years later as I reflected on it, I regretted it and realized that I would've been happy being her cuckold on the side while he was her primary man. If he and I would've gotten along, that would've been a feasible scenario for me but since we hated each other, I know there was no possibility of me formally surrendering her to him and continuing as the cuckold on the side.

Looking at it from a 2025 perspective, I am still open to try that arrangement again but with better structure/communication as well as with a man more compatible with the lifestyle and who I actually get along with. In theory I liked and enjoyed watching her date and transition into becoming his but due to him and I not getting along, it made it rough.

If my current GF started dating, I'd want her boyfriend and I to get along and become good friends just in case their relationship evolves, I won't feel so weird letting him take over my role as her man. If he and I are good friends, I'd likely be happy to see him take over and become her main man while I accept my role and become her cuck/secondary man.

Not sure that this counts as losing her for real but I've often thought about that scenario above. Living in poly household where my wife and her boyfriend are the main couple and I'm mostly a spectator but still get time with my wife to keep our intimacy and connection but ultimately the 3 of us know that she is his and we all like it that way.

UC
- When you think about it a complete 180 from the norm of the BF/Hubby being the cuck, but the (you that is) side piece being so.

[Tolliver]

Last night my sister came to visit unexpectedly. She lives about an hour away and came to our city to visit some friends from college. Unfortunately, her car died again, she had the starter rebuilt a while back and now it won't start again, so she got it towed to a local garage, I drove her to her dinner and night out with friends, and then picked her up and she stayed the night here with the goal of having the car fixed this coming week and she rented a car today to get her through until it's done. Sorry for the long sentence.

Anyway Rie and I went out to dinner ourselves last night. Maybe around 8, I get a text from sis saying "Is Rie still seeing her friend from next door?" I about crapped my pants. I had forgot about that incident around late last year, and immediately wondered what RIe had told her. I responded immediately, a little anxious, saying he was just teaching her about Excel and other computer related things, and she came back right away basically telling me she's not dumb enough to believe that. I wanted to confront Rie and see what she said, but I was worried I might get upset in the process of the convo and decided not to in the restaurant.

Not knowing how to respond I very anxiously put my phone down and tried to enjoy dinner despite my hands shaking a little. We actually had a really nice time up until then and Rie was fully focused on me with good convo and lots of laughing. She even flirted with me some.

There was no way I wanted to undo all that was an argument, but at the same time I knew sis was already done with dinner and with friends at a bar, and had maybe an hour or two to resolve this to some extent before I had to pick her up. I absolutely didn't want to leaves things like they were for an awkward convo in the car.

So a short while later I confessed that Rie was a bit of a flirt, which she already knew, and at that time (before we got engaged) I was okay with her spending time with other guys, if it was work related. She just texted back saying I was a dork for thinking she'd believe that, saying a lot of couples have open marriages now, and what was really going on.

I clearly wasn't going to tell her everything but confessed that yes, we were living together at the time but weren't too serious yet, so I allowed her to see the guy next door, thinking she'd get it all out of her system before we potentially got serious. Again she called me a dork and told me that wasn't a good idea, that I was a terrible liar and that she would just drop it until I was ready to tell her.

Problem avoided, or so I thought, since we do text a lot but may only see each other 10 or so times a year, and that this would die down and be forgotten in time.

Rie and I went home, she gave me an amazing bj and some time later sis texted for a ride. I picked her up and to my relief she didn't mention the topic about Rie. We hung out in the living for a while before all going to bed. I resolved to drop a hint to Rie later next week to see what she said, thinking the matter was probably dealt with as best as it could.

Now for the plot twist. Sis leaves for home this morning in her rental, again no further word of the hazardous topic from last night. Well I get a text about an hour ago from sis saying she spoke with Rie late last night in the kitchen and confirmed with her that she did have a boyfriend on the side and that it was out in the open, but after that Rie danced around the issue, not saying too much. She said it was all okay, that again open relationships are not uncommon, that she likes Rie and as long as I'm happy she's happy, and that Rie didn't volunteer anything else and only spoke to her because she used what I told her to elicit info.

So long story short my sis now knows at the very least my fiance has a bf on the side. I guess I also know that my sister is way smarter than me, as is my fiance probably.

Now my next task is to talk to Rie, let her know that sis played me, let her know I'm not angry at all but please keep outgoing info to a minimum. Ald also need to figure out what her plans are for bringing Big Mark back into our lives, which I suspect is coming. Just hoping for the best.

[subtoall]

It's a shame your sister is so nosy. In order to be prepared for such conversations, here's a reply you can use for next time: "Like all relationships, what does or does not go on in our relationship is a private matter between Rie and me. I trust you to also avoid participating in any gossip about us. Thank you for understanding."

Boundaries protect relationships.

[edgedndenied]

Maybe Rie will want Mark to move in with you guys

[ShyBiGuy954]

So Rei is not content with just cucking you in private, she's being blatant about it, making it obvious to your inner circle on contacts.

[Tolliver]

She definitely will want Big Mark back, but him living with us is a non starter. He has a whole circle of friends who sometimes visit him, party, etc. That is not going to work in our apt. Whatever happens I hope it's a happy balance where he's not here too much, but I also don't want to push back too hard and see her run off with him and leaving me by my lonesome either.

[Tap]

IMHO, her running off with him and leaving you by your lonesome would be a great outcome for you. Then you would have the your place free for the girl you will meet who will actually love you. It's a great outlook for you to know that the world is full of beautiful girls who would never do or say anything to make you unhappy.

[ucaneffher]

IMHO, her running off with him and leaving you by your lonesome would be a great outcome for you. Then you would have the your place free for the girl you will meet who will actually love you. It's a great outlook for you to know that the world is full of beautiful girls who would never do or say anything to make you unhappy.

Sometimes us cucks just want that one girl who will push our boundaries and do crazy things that make her happy. We all have different likes and preferences, he might complain about a few things but he clearly likes his buttons pushed by her..

For example, I absolutely hated it when the girlfriend and I had weekend plans with our group of friends to hit up the bars and clubs together but then she would cancel because instead she went to see her lover or boyfriend and I'd end up going solo with our friends.

More commonly , she'd spend her weekends away with other men and would not come home to go out with us so I'd end up alone with our group at the clubs while my GF was at some guy's house most likely lounging around topless in her thong and on her 3rd round of sex of the night.

I hated going out and not having my sexy gf there to dance with me but as a cuckold I would not have had it any other way. This was the way our relationship dynamic was for roughly 5 years and it made me happy knowing that she was happy having extended sex with other men instead most weekends if not every weekend. I hated that my GF was virtually off limits and gone most weekends but it made realized and accept that I am a cuckold. Her happiness brought me happiness and at the same time I loved that it trained me to be accepting of her decisions.

What works for you might not be for everyone and vice versa.

[4incheslong]

The more promiscuous the girl the more likely it comes out into the open. Buckle up.

[ucaneffher]

The more promiscuous the girl the more likely it comes out into the open. Buckle up.

That is the biggest fact! In my case my gf was very promiscuous and in no time without effort, almost all of her girlfriends and guy friends knew that she was seeing many different men outside of our relationship. Her sisters also knew but to be fair they were the ones that were rooting for her to be promiscuous like them. The rest of her family found out about 4 years into the lifestyle when she was done sleeping around and ready to settle for one man - they met her boyfriend and knew she was with the both of us.

Definitely buckle up and don't get caught off guard like I did when I found out that almost everyone knew that my GF was dating and sleeping around.

[Jeremie11231]

So long story short my sis now knows at the very least my fiance has a bf on the side. I guess I also know that my sister is way smarter than me, as is my fiance probably.

Now my next task is to talk to Rie, let her know that sis played me, let her know I'm not angry at all but please keep outgoing info to a minimum. Ald also need to figure out what her plans are for bringing Big Mark back into our lives, which I suspect is coming. Just hoping for the best.

When is Big Mark supposed to come back from the summer break? August?

It sounds like your sister knows you well enough to know that you would be likely to accept this arrangement. As Rie could sense, all the way back when she tested it out by hooking up with guys at those two concerts. Seems like your sister just wants you to open up more about it with her because 1) she probably finds it juicy to know about, and 2) she wants to make sure you are okay, and 3) she might feel even a little proud of you for having the courage it has taken.

But anyway, this exposure is the type of thing no one predicts or expects when they accept their girlfriend cucking them, but it really is inevitable. And what a jolt you had. Also back with her coworker and the mail / building admin person when you realized they knew, too. Those moents really make you have to own the truth when you're not expecting to.

Rie probably takes some pride in people knowing (and if you think about it, it's not really fair to expect her to keep it totally secret, even if that were possible). Not all women have the power or ability to take full control the way she has, and get their boyfriend (and now fiance) to accept all these things almost no man would accept. How could she not take pride in that? And I imagine she also likes seeing you own the truth in front of other people. Like when she introduced you to those guys at the grocery store. She probably likes testing out your acceptance. (Again, same going all the way back to those nights at the concerts.) She's always been a few steps ahead of you in recognizing just how much you'll come to accept. Probably she will slowly get you used to being outed more, and that process might be helpful to you, too.