My girlfriend and her interest in other men

[Tolliver]

He's back mid August. I'm hoping he finds a different place to live. I've been very deferential towards her wishes and needs because I do find it very hot, but if there's even a suggestion of him moving in with us I'll probably lose my cool.

I get what you're saying about my sister but it is uncomfortable having her know about this. It's not a turn on at all and I am hoping she forgets all about it.

[Jeremie11231]

I hear you about your sister - that makes sense.
Also makes sense about not wanting Big Mark to move in. Living with anyone, even as roommates, can be a really big deal.
I'm sure you can negotiate it smoothly. Might have to make some kind of other concession if it takes a lot of resistance to keep him from moving in. Or maybe it'll be something like, he stays with you two for a week or two as he secures his own apartment situation for the year.

[Tolliver]

I could probably deal with a week considering what we've already done, but 2 seems a bit much for him to be here nonstop.

[Tolliver]

Well we had an eventful weekend. Big Mark was supposed to come Friday and stay till Sunday but he cancelled last minute, saying he was busy with other things he had to do. Rie was unhappy with this, changed into a sexy outfit, and told me she was going to the grocery store. I had a good idea what it meant. I knew if she wanted me to come she would have said so, so I told her good luck, and with that she was gone. No response given to my good luck comment. She was clearly ticked off her boyfriend had cancelled.

She gets back after an hour in a better mood. She told me she went to the nearby store, as she seemed to lose interest in college kids a few weeks ago after her date with one, and met a guy who she talked to for a good while. I gently asked for the details and to my surprise she was very forthcoming. He's black, in his 50's, very friendly and flirty, works as a top level manager for some type of small business, and the two of them also traded numbers. He's clearly interested in her. It was hard not to express my enthusiasm for her new friend, as some of you who have been in this thread for a while know I'm hoping she can move on from big mark and find a different bf who isn't in our apt as much affecting day to day life.

Anyway Rie has been having me do more chores around the house lately, and her less, which I don't mind because I do like to have a clean apt and it also plays into the kink having her put me to work. After dinner she asked me if I could clean the kitchen and vacuum the house while she texted her new friend Jeff. I said yes and after getting her a wine cooler I got to work. 90 minutes later she was still texting him on the sofa. I sit down and she tells me he's very cool, flirty, and a little forward.

So we start a movie, and she basically is paying more attention to her phone. She gets up after a while and says he wants to call her, so she goes into the bedroom for some privacy and talks to him while I sit out by my lonesome watching the movie. At first I'm a little ashamed that my future wife left me to go talk to another guy in her bedroom, but shortly after I'm turned on again. A half hour later she comes back out, grabs her third wine cooler from the fridge and promptly announces to me that they have been talking on and off for a while now. I say that's great, still excited for her, and then she bashfully adds that's she thinks she's "ready to suck him off".

I drew my next breath in quick and my heart skipped a beat. I literally started to get hard and I blurted out I hope she can do that tonight. She gives me a look of "slow down" with a condescending smile to boot. She then sends a few more texts and tells me she let her coworker and friend Renee know about Jeff, and she suggested they go out to celebrate. So we pile into the car, and go to a bar I've not been to before. It's set up on the second floor of a big building that connects with a bank and leads to a downtown area that's very close to campus.

So an hour later we meet at the bar, which turns out to be the most upscale bar in town that I've seen. Me, Rie, Renee, and her husband Chris. 2 hotwives (one a hotfiance I guess ;-) ) and 2 cucks. Rie would tell me later that Renee has visited the bar regularly for years, sometimes looking to meet a new guy.

I've met Renee a few times but this is the first I've been with her socially for an extended period of time. She's very outgoing, outspoken, and assertive. She asked Rie openly about Jeff, not really mentioning explicitly that her fiance was sitting next to her, but still felt like I was outed to a bar full of customers. And if they were listening to us at all they might have known anyway. At one point she declared she had found herself admiring more than a few black guys at times and she hoped things clicked for the two of them.

After 30 minutes or so the group next to us left and another group of guys sat down. I could tell the guy on the end was looking over at Renee and sort of turning his head at times, indicating her was listening to her. She was clearly aware of him as well although I didn't say anything indicating I knew. So he starts up a conversation with her. She introduced Rie and then "the two husbands. They know we like to talk to other guys and they're good with it" she said up front with a very pretty smile. It felt like she was on the prowl.

Turns out he's a student studying for an MBA in finance, was very cool and cocksure and talked to Renee and then Rie some time (at some point Chris got up to use the restroom and Rie slid over so it was Alan, Renee, Rie, Chris, and then me at the end). Rie was flirty with him some but let Renee do the lion's share of the talking.

We finished our drinks and Alan offered to take us to another bar, which the ladies accepted. So the 5 of us walked to another bar a few blocks away. It was more of a normal bar, not upscale. I thought for sure one of the other guys with him would come with, since the guy next to him did participate in our convo some, but that didn't happen.

Curious as to what might happen, we piled into a corner booth. Renee sat next to him in the middle, with Rie on the other side, us 2 cucks on the two ends. Alan kissed Renee shortly after our drinks came. She didn't hesitate to kiss back. Rie was reserved as the two made out, but did quickly smile and answer whenever he would say something to her. Chris was pretty at ease, all things considered, with his wife making out with her new friend.

At this point Rie was on her 5th drink which means she was officially drunk or going to be there very soon. Alan suggested he and Renee go somewhere quiet and she offered to have the 5 of us go back to her place, which he accepted. So we walk back to the parking deck, pile into Renee's car, Alan and two girls in the back, Chris driving and me front passenger. We get to their place about 15 minutes later. During the drive Alan and Renee still going at it but Rie also talking with both of them and in the mix. Lots of drunken talk about our kink. Renee at one point declaring that the husbands love it when they hook up with hot guys, etc. He asked them if Renee and Rie ever kissed and they laughed and locked lips for a bit, me unable to see to my chagrin, although I was already hard anyway.

So we get to Renee's condo. Her and Alan were clearly ready to go. They slip into the master bedroom and a few minutes later Renee comes out, takes Rie by the hand, leads her happily into the room, and closes the door. It's a bit muffled but we can hear them talking and laughing, and then getting busy. I'm feeling a bit awkward out in the living room with Chris, and I blurt out that I'm always a little anxious when Rie starts fooling around with another guy. He nodded and said nothing.

They come out of the room about 30 minutes later. Alan had already called an Uber and he leaves. The girls are in a good mood and Chris and I are happy that our wife/fiance are back with us. Rie and I stayed the night in the guest room. She gave me the details. The two of them gave him a blowjob together. Then he fucked Renee doggy while she ate Rie's pussy at Alan's behest. I was enthralled, immediately hoping the two of them would even remember it the next day, as they were both drunk. Then at the end he pulled out of Renee and came down Rie's throat, letting her know to move closer to him when it was almost time. Still turned on just thinking about this.

That was Friday night. I finally got around to asking if she remembered what happened today, and she said yes, but the pussy eating was more for Alan, not for the two of them, and I shouldn't get excited to see it myself any time soon.

[dinoo]

Many years before my wife became a housewife, I was sleeping with her.

Unexpectedly, she asked me if I had ever imagined fucking another woman while we were having sex.
My honest answer was no.
'Did you?' I asked her.
"Yes," she said, "more than once."
I then asked her if I had known this man.
'Yes,' she said, 'all of them.'
'Them?' I asked. 'Does that mean there are more?'
She nodded.
'You know one of them very well.'
I then asked her to name them.
'No, I don't. It's my secret. But imagining being fucked by men you know well is very arousing. Would you accept that I do it?"
"Are you asking me to be honest?"
Her: "You're always honest with me. That's what I'm assuming right now.'
"If you tell me later on, in detail, what happened and with whom, I would be very pleased."
"Very nice to know this," she said. I was already expecting this answer, but I wanted to make sure that I could be so open with you without hurting you. I promise to tell you all about it.'

Years later, we decided to visit a club.
My wife chose a naturist theme night, where single men were very welcome.
That evening, our sex life changed completely.
Much to our delight.

[Tolliver]

Well I have been pretty high on the hog for the last few weeks after the incident with Rie and Renee at the bar(s). We tried going again twice after that but nothing developed. Mark and Rie have been at odds for a while. We finally made another 2 hour trip to meet him halfway last week and the two of them had a repeat performance from the first time at the bar and hotel where we stayed. He is even more possessive of her than before somehow, and she seems not to mind.

He asked her if she has been with anyone else and she said no, he is the only one to be inside of her for quite some time (months and months), but she did confess about Jeff, her new friend that she visits regularly and gives blowjobs to. Apparently he has just been having her suck him off slowly and for extended periods of time rather than sex. Not sure why. Side note I have yet to meet him but I'm a big fan because he has no interest in coming to our place. I'm hoping she eventually drops Mark for him but that's not happening any time soon. He'll be back in town in a few weeks.

As far as Jeff, he texts or calls when he wants her over, and she'll put on some workout clothes under the pretense that she's going to the park to jog, but instead goes to his place and services him with her mouth for an hour at least. I have asked about pics but there's nothing. All I get so far are words to recap.

[edgedndenied]

Do you still have sex with Rie? How about PIV sex

[Jeremie11231]

Apparently he has just been having her suck him off slowly and for extended periods of time rather than sex. Not sure why.
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As far as Jeff, he texts or calls when he wants her over, and she'll put on some workout clothes under the pretense that she's going to the park to jog, but instead goes to his place and services him with her mouth for an hour at least. I have asked about pics but there's nothing. All I get so far are words to recap.

Omg, that is hot...

Maybe Jeff is attached and isn't really supposed to be with other women, but doesn't want to talk about it, and is able to convince himself that getting blowjobs isn't cheating. What does Rie say about it? Does she say she wishes she could have PiV sex with him?
I think it's so interesting, though -- it's easy to assume that the main motivation is to feel the sensations of a big cock from PiV sex. But Rie seems to want even just to give another guy oral. Makes me think so much of it is just needing to be with a very different kind of guy, with BDE.

Your description above of going out on a "pretense" -- does that mean she doesn't tell you about it until after the fact?

Knowing how much she likes to do things in front of you, I would think she would want to bring you some time.

And yes, I am also curious if she has any PiV sex with you these days, or if she is still keeping it to teasing handjobs for you?

[Tolliver]

Mark is the only one to have full on sex with her for months. She and I fool around regularly but she has told me multiple times that her pussy belongs to him although I sometimes can lick and touch.

I asked her a few weeks ago if she was going to have sex with Jeff and she told me with an earnest voice he prefers her to give him head, and she enjoys sucking him (I strongly suspect he does have BDE based on what she has told me).

She will tell me about her encounters with Jeff. She's over there regularly a few days a week. He typically sits on the sofa and she will give him head for extended periods of time. I will get hard when she starts telling me about sucking his black cock slowly and deliberately, licking his balls, etc. And she will giggle at how excited I get. Not really sure why he hasn't tried harder to fuck her. I suspect she would probably let him. My fantasy is that he does fuck her and she falls in love with him and out of love with Mark, but that seems unlikely given how good he is to her in bed.

The plan is for him to stay with us for the weekend in a few weeks, and she and him will reconnect before he moves into his apartment across town, which should give us a little extra breathing room.

[Jeremie11231]

Wow, that is so, so, so hot. That she goes over to Jeff's several times a week.
And he must know she has a fiance she lives with?
I wonder if she's swallowing his cum, too.

Maybe she is not having full sex with Jeff because she doesn't want to have to admit that to Big Mark?

It seems like she has a really deep bond with Big Mark. Do they share any common interests or go out and do other activities together? Or is it mostly a sexual connection without other aspects to it?

My impression is that Mark isn't completely well-suited to non-monogamy and might have a hard time wrapping his head and heart around not being her one and only. He's young, so that would make sense.

I am curious if he seems to like fucking her in front of you. And what you're doing while they are having sex. Does she ask you to get naked or touch yourself in front of them? Do they request any submissive behavior from you?

I really admire your courage and flexibility in adapting to so much and accepting so much change in a relatively short amount of time. Rie has got you into such an incredibly submissive and vulnerable cuck position and she must be so thrilled to have your patient commitment to her even as she humbles you so much.

So, you are not allowed to have PiV sex with her, but does she ever suck you? Or give you handjobs? Or does she just have you touch yourself in front of her?

[Tolliver]

He for sure knows she has a live in fiance. She has told me she swallows for him religiously, and even if she didn't I could almost put money on it. That is an interesting idea about how she doesn't have full on sex with Jeff due to Mark. Hadn't thought of that. They will go out to eat sometimes, and all three of us have watched movies and had many dinners tonight at home, but this is always followed by sex between the two of them.

Mark has fucked her way more times than I have, which is all part of the cuckolding package which has become a great turn-on for me. In fact, he's literally never had to use a condom with her. The very first time she went over there he rocked her world and then emptied his balls into her. He's her "stud" and sometimes her "man". I'm either her cuck or once in a while she calls me princess or sometimes even her "panty wearing princess" when she's had 3-4 wine coolers.

Mark has fucked her probably well over 50 times by my rough count. She has told me multiple times when he was coming over that she loves having sex with him but also some days she just wants his cum inside of her, preferably down her throat and in her pussy at the same time. She's joked several times that she didn't sleep well on a certain night because she didn't have Big Mark's cum in her.

She has encouraged me to jerk off while she and Mark get busy. I've tried a few times but have never finished. I have had some amazing orgasms while watching video of them though.

[ShyBiGuy954]

I'm either her cuck or once in a while she calls me princess or sometimes even her "panty wearing princess" when she's had 3-4 wine coolers.

Does Rie keep you in panties now??
I remember a few mos ago you mentioned she was hinting at it, but I never heard a follow-up.

[Jeremie11231]

Yeah, I was going to ask the same thing -- if you had tried on panties for Rie. That would be really intense. And hot.
Also curious if the topic of chastity devices has come up now that all this time has passed. Or even just restricting you from orgasming.

It sounds like Big Mark has seen your cock, then. How has that felt? You mentioned a long time ago he is "bigger", but I don't think you ever got into much more detail than that.

[Tolliver]

Well no I don't do panties. She has convinced me to wear small boxers though which she jokingly calls panties on a regular basis. So I guess we kind of met halfway on that one.

[Jeremie11231]

What color are the small boxers?
That is so hot that she wants you in something along those lines.

[Tolliver]

They're all different colors. Quite comfortable and I might add, with nylon and have more stretchability than cotton boxers. Should have made the switch long ago.

[Jeremie11231]

Is this the weekend Big Mark is coming back for the big reconnect?

[Tolliver]

He arrived this past Tuesday. He and Rie have been carrying on like a couple since he got here. Kissing in the parking lot for everyone to see, whether it's all three of us or just the two of them and me looking on from up here. She and I agreed I wouldn't say anything about her other boyfriend Jeff, which I am happy to do. I would prefer if she and Mark break up and Jeff is her primary sex partner.

She tells me Mark has matured over the summer and is going to be more low key. Although to me he seems very possessive still. He does have his place set up but will be staying with us for a while so Rie and he can see how compatible they are. Honestly they seem very compatible to me and have for some time.

The two of them are already joking about him getting her pregnant on wedding night. It's kind of hot to talk about but thinking about it happening for real is a bit of an anxiety experience if people find out. He has been lifting weights and has bulked up some and she loves it. They have been getting busy every day. Yesterday I heard the sounds of them fucking and walked over to the open door. I saw him giving it to her doggystyle, she on the bed and he standing at the edge, and was completely captivated by it. I couldn't help but whip out my phone and record them, which she would jokingly chastise me as a "little perv" later that night after a few drinks.

We're all three going out tonight to our favorite bar. My concern is they will be more demonstrative and if one or more of my friends show up, some of whom have met her, and find her carrying on with Mark, it could be awkward, so I will have to keep an eye out.

[ash_hotgf]

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[Jeremie11231]

Wow.
I’m so interested in the whole thing of leaving the door open — does it seem like an intentional invitation for you to pass by and peak? Or does it seem more like they don’t even think about closing the door anymore than if they lived alone — just feeling no need? Or maybe they just like the feeling of power to fuck whenever and wherever they want, regardless of you?


Also, how was the night out at the bar? Did you run into anyone you know? I know I’ve said it before, but I do think the process of being outed is usually inevitable, however slow and painfully awkward it may be.

[scarfolamew]

She tells me Mark has matured over the summer and is going to be more low key. Although to me he seems very possessive still. He does have his place set up but will be staying with us for a while so Rie and he can see how compatible they are. Honestly they seem very compatible to me and have for some time.

Woah dude, intense update. Is Rie teasing you that Big Mark should be her husband instead of you? Is that what she means by "compatible"?

[Tolliver]

Wow.
I’m so interested in the whole thing of leaving the door open — does it seem like an intentional invitation for you to pass by and peak? Or does it seem more like they don’t even think about closing the door anymore than if they lived alone — just feeling no need? Or maybe they just like the feeling of power to fuck whenever and wherever they want, regardless of you?


Also, how was the night out at the bar? Did you run into anyone you know? I know I’ve said it before, but I do think the process of being outed is usually inevitable, however slow and painfully awkward it may be.

As far as the door I know she likes me to see her with him. I'm guessing she is the one who initiates the "open door policy" but I haven't asked. The bar was fun. They were not on best behavior, frequently kissing (she's now calling him her "stallion"). No friends showed up but the bartenders know me and Rie pretty well, know we're engaged, and now know that she and Big Mark are an item. I got some weird smiles from one of the girls. Obviously they know I'm a cuck.

[Tolliver]

She tells me Mark has matured over the summer and is going to be more low key. Although to me he seems very possessive still. He does have his place set up but will be staying with us for a while so Rie and he can see how compatible they are. Honestly they seem very compatible to me and have for some time.

Woah dude, intense update. Is Rie teasing you that Big Mark should be her husband instead of you? Is that what she means by "compatible"?

I took it to mean she wants to see how the newer more laid back version of him will be with her. She keeps telling me he will eventually find a girl his age and settle down but in the meantime she wants to be his girl while she can. He has his own apt set up now but stays the night here some too. Yesterday he told me, with her in the room, that she's his girl and I'm not to ask or initiate sex with her. I then asked her if she was okay with that, and she calmly did this thing where she tells me to hurry up and do what she wants, which in this case was clearly to agree to his terms, which I did. Then he took her into the bedroom and fucked her.

[Long Lurker 34]

Well no I don't do panties. She has convinced me to wear small boxers though which she jokingly calls panties on a regular basis. So I guess we kind of met halfway on that one.

T
- You know, women's 'boy shorts' are very much like boxers. Just sayin'.

[Long Lurker 34]

She tells me Mark has matured over the summer and is going to be more low key. Although to me he seems very possessive still. He does have his place set up but will be staying with us for a while so Rie and he can see how compatible they are. Honestly they seem very compatible to me and have for some time.

Woah dude, intense update. Is Rie teasing you that Big Mark should be her husband instead of you? Is that what she means by "compatible"?

I took it to mean she wants to see how the newer more laid back version of him will be with her. She keeps telling me he will eventually find a girl his age and settle down but in the meantime she wants to be his girl while she can. He has his own apt set up now but stays the night here some too. Yesterday he told me, with her in the room, that she's his girl and I'm not to ask or initiate sex with her. I then asked her if she was okay with that, and she calmly did this thing where she tells me to hurry up and do what she wants, which in this case was clearly to agree to his terms, which I did. Then he took her into the bedroom and fucked her.

T
- Do you think your HGF will, at some point, start staying overnight at his place?