Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:04 pm

Thursday morning I received a message from her to say she had told him that what he did was out of order and that he'd apologised. That was followed by a message from him:

Him: I'm sorry about last night. I was just fooling around and then she seemed to tell me like it wasn't a big deal...
Him: I understand now that it was a big deal to you and I respect that but I wouldn't have judged you for it before and I'm not going to judge you for it now.
Me: Don't pretend you're not grinning like a Cheshire cat
Him: Promise I'm not grinning, I was a bit shocked but it's mostly hot
Him: You can imagine that being hot if it were the other way round, right?
Me: Not sure I can imagine it
Him: Fair enough

That afternoon, I made the first post on here in a while about the failed meet at the coffee shop. Maybe that gives some perspective about how out of sync this all is currently. I thought I was catching up but I'm still 11 days behind.

I can't remember if it was the Thursday or Friday night but she brought up the subject of where it ends. I asked "where what ends?". She was referring to the 3 of us in our current dynamic. She pointed out that, assuming he doesn't get serious with another girl, this could go on indefinitely. She said she might get bored and find someone else but there'd be no reason to turn down a good fuck. She then pointed out that he'd probably be the best man at our wedding and that she'd be fucking the best man on our wedding day. She had been sat waiting to see my dick get hard as she said it and wasn't disappointed. She said "It turns you on too, eh?". We've not really mentioned a potential wedding day much but she's made the important decisions like whether to fuck the best man. FML :lol:

I don't remember anything particularly interesting happening between then and Sunday. I originally tried to write both this Sunday and the previous Sunday as 1 because I considered them to be similar but it got complicated explaining it that way. I'll skip out the similarities.

We did what has become the Sunday morning routine of cleaning the house, cooking lunch, her getting ready and then spending whatever time's left being intimate. She had put on a black lingerie set I'd seen her in a few times before, albeit not for a while. We had offered that he stay for dinner after and he'd agreed to it, so there was some potential awkwardness to look forward to after.

He arrived, we made some small talk downstairs and then we went upstairs. I sat in the same corner as the previous week, they initiated much the same. Things started to change when she was sucking his dick. He said to me (without looking around) "Don't you think [your girlfriend] looks hot sucking my dick?", she looked over at me, smiled with her eyes and put on a cute and innocent performance, maintaining eye contact the whole time. I didn't want to reply but couldn't just ignore him. I said "she does...". He said I should relax and jerk off, that it was no secret that I was turned on by all this. I said I was ok, that I didn't feel the need. She continued sucking but kept glancing over at me. She then got up, came over to me, kissed me passionately while taking out my hard dick and stroking it. She then took my hand and placed it on my dick and went back over to sucking his dick on her knees.

It was humiliating to realise he had just been stood there watching, seeing my dick for probably the first time, realising I was smaller than he was, probably thinking my dick looks like what he imagined a cuck's dick to look like. I wasn't stroking, I didn't want to give them the satisfaction but my hand was there. He asked how his dick tasted, the question was clearly aimed at me but she stopped to answer "good!", saving me the humiliation of answering.

He then did something I hadn't seen him do before, he told her to stand, he picked her up, turned her upside down and they did a sort of standing 69. I don't think he'd eaten her pussy before, I didn't see what happened on Wednesday though. I've never thought to try this position, she seemed to be enjoying it though, her face getting redder as it went on. He laid her on the bed, her head hanging off the bottom end and tried to push his dick into her throat, her face redder still and her eyes watering. It looked like he was torturing her but she would carry on sucking and stroking it between his attempts like she was into it.

I wished I could've seen what had happened on Wednesday because there seemed to be a shift in how comfortable this all was for them compared to the week before (She had taken the hidden camera but said she didn't get a chance to set it up). He would tell her what he wanted and she would do it without question. He had her sucking his balls, calling him Sir, thanking him for facefucking her, it was a bit surreal to witness given that they'd essentially just been civil to each other for years.

Once he'd finished demonstrating her subservience to him, he laid her on her back, rested his cock against her pussy lips and began admiring her feet. He seemed to take immense pleasure in being able to take her feet and wrap them around his cock, looking up, closing his eyes and letting out a gasp/sigh as he did. It was weird but interesting to watch. He didn't seem bothered about us watching him. He probably felt like he was cucking me with her feet but it felt more like he was violating them. The actual act didn't seem all that hot but the manner in which he was confidently using her for his pleasure made me feel something. His dick looked rock hard and veiny as he stroked her feet against it. Eventually he lifted and spread her legs again, went back to resting his cock against her pussy. I felt like he was going to say something or wanted to say something but he looked back and forth between her face in pleasure and her pussy which she was openly offering to him as he penetrated her deeper and deeper.

I think this had been my favourite moment both times I'd watched. That feeling that I shouldn't be allowing this but feeling helpless to stop it as his massive member stretches her and goes to places I've never been. Her facial expressions that I've never seen, not to that extreme anyway. It was like she was both shocked and winded at the same time, catching her breath at random times.

They hadn't paid any attention to me for a while, I took the opportunity to lightly stroke my cock, being mindful to be able to make it look like I wasn't if they were to look in my direction.

He began confidently fucking her and manhandling her into wherever/whatever he wanted her. There was no need to do it the way he was doing it, it was clearly to put on a show to me. She was essentially in a cyclic trance of noisy buildup to orgasm, orgasm and then silence until he stopped to let her come down. I would be happy just giving her one of those orgasms. In one of the positions, he picked her up and fucked her which was another new one, again making me suspicious of what happened on Wednesday. Does he have a sex swing at his house or something? She hadn't mentioned anything.

As he was getting close, he backed off the pace and under his heavy breathing shouted "beg me to fill her up", I stopped stroking. She shouted back "fill me with your cum". He replied "not you, your cucked boyfriend...". I said nothing. She told me to beg him, using my name and a "please...". Again, I said nothing, not wanting to give him the satisfaction. He then said "Alright... beg me NOT to fill her up...". Suddenly if felt like I wouldn't be giving into what he wanted if I now did the first option. She was looking at me in desperation as he fucked her slowly and frustratingly. She let out a "please [my name]...". I said "please... fill her up". He then clarified "you want me to empty my balls into your girlfriend's pussy?", I reluctantly told him "yes". It was so humiliating, my heart was thumping through my chest, I couldn't help but stroke my dick, it was a rush. It clearly turned him on a lot too, he picked up the pace and was power fucking her, I think he even chuckled and said "fuck yes" under his breath. I felt so cucked but I felt so aroused. I focussed on enjoying the feeling, watching as he was about to blow his load inside her, something I had just begged him to do, it felt so wrong to have done that and yet it turned me on to think about having done so. She started cumming, it seemed to interrupt his flow, he let her cum and then started to fuck her again and told me to beg him again. "Please, fill her" I think I said, still stroking as much as I dare without getting too close myself. My words seemed to go straight to his dick and he unloaded for what seemed like a long time, gasping and grunting in a descending rhythm.

He eventually pulled out, there was a pause where it seemed like there wasn't much cum but then some glugged out. He asked if we'd like him to leave us to it and wait downstairs, she replied "yes please, if you don't mind". He left the room, I waited to hear him finish the stairs and then got on the bed between her legs. She looked so beautiful, I wanted to please her, I wanted to surprise her. It felt more like the time she had come home from sucking someone's dick, I didn't care, I was too horny. I held her thighs with my arms and went down on her. She seemed shocked but was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it. The thought of doing this with him just downstairs felt risky and humiliating but I wanted to make her happy and cum. We then made love, kissing passionately. It occurred to me that our most intimate sex was always with his semen intertwined with our lips and genitals. The thought got me close to cumming, then I remembered begging him to put his semen there and came hard. It felt amazing followed by immense shame. We embraced for a minute or two, remembering that he was downstairs. I realised I now had to talk to him as if nothing had happened, despite all that had just happened.

She got dressed into something neutral, I was going to ask her to change if she put on something sexy, I wanted/needed there to be zero sexual tension going on. I didn't tell her I needed it this way, I guess I hoped she would understand that anyway, I'd rather she did it because she understood instead of me having to ask. We went downstairs, he was watching TV, everything seemed back to normal, I didn't feel normal but on the face of it, it was normal for us. We discussed dinner options and ordered delivery. She sat close with me, he sat by himself, as was normal. Nobody mentioned the sex, there was no tension, everything was good. After he left, we talked about it, I thanked her for being how I hoped she would be. She agreed that it was necessary to feel some normality after.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by Watchinu69 » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:57 pm

Great update, thanks for sharing. Kool things went very well it sounds, everyone was happy & had a good dinner!
As things become more comfortable he will experiment & fuck your women more & more, hang on for a wild ride ✅

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:03 pm

The next day (Monday 7th July), he messaged me:

Him: I'm not sure if I was out of order asking you to say those things yesterday. I got carried away and it felt right to me at the time...
Him: Afterwards I felt a bit guilty but I didn't want to bring it up. 😬
Me: If it was the other way around, I would've done the same...
Him: Does that mean we're good?
Me: As long as it's within that context, any other time and I'd punch you in the face 😂
Him: Got it 😉
Him: It was hot though, right?
Me: I don't want to admit it
Him: Fair enough. You'd have used your safe word if I went too far?
Me: Yep or just ignored you, depends how bad it was
Him: Just a heads up, I'll probably ask [your girlfriend] over one night this week, you know she'll say yes...
Me: What's happening with your own girlfriend?
Him: I told you, we're not exclusive, or even together really. I still see her once a week but this thing with you and [your girlfriend] is next level.
Me: Is she fucking around? Do we need to be worried about STI risk?
Him: No that I'm aware of. She said she'd tell me if she saw anyone else and she's up front about this sort of thing.
Me: Just a heads up, she'll probably be telling you she saw someone else one night this week, no hard feelings?
Him: None at all, keep dreaming!

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:20 pm

Wannabe123 wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:23 pm
Reading the trajectory of events, I think Anon’s gf’s end goal is to see him take his friend’s cock in his ass
Wannabe123 wrote:
Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:03 pm
Anon, it looks like your gf and your friend are strategizing together to groom you into a sissy. At this point you are just being exploited y them without you realizing.
Neither of these things will ever happen, I can promise you that. I know I said weeks ago that nothing could ever happen with my friend or that I didn't want it to be more than a fantasy and yes, I have egg on my face for that now but these things were out of my control... sorta. She wanted both of those things, the things you're talking about aren't even on any of our radars.
anondesires wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:30 am
Why's everyone desperate for me to eat creampie? And why does everyone think I would?
I can say that it was annoying that everyone wanted it and I had no choice but to admit that it happened multiple times. I wanted to be like "fuck you all, I didn't do it" :roll:

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by coastalkid » Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:42 pm

anondesires wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:20 pm
I can say that it was annoying that everyone wanted it and I had no choice but to admit that it happened multiple times. I wanted to be like "fuck you all, I didn't do it" :roll:
This speaks volumes, literally and figuratively.
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by elina » Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:33 am

Thank you Anondesires,

This post was absolutely wonderful. It is so good to see how your are gradually coming to accept yourself the way you are. Also how you now fully realize how this wonderful Girlfriend of yours is training you to become the perfect future husband and cuck to Her. You know you cannot give Her the orgasms She craves, but are now learning to truly accept that you fully love seeing Her being satsified by others while you watch and edge yourself.
anondesires wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:04 pm
....... She continued sucking but kept glancing over at me. She then got up, came over to me, kissed me passionately while taking out my hard dick and stroking it. She then took my hand and placed it on my dick and went back over to sucking his dick on her knees.

It was humiliating to realise he had just been stood there watching, seeing my dick for probably the first time, realising I was smaller than he was, probably thinking my dick looks like what he imagined a cuck's dick to look like. I wasn't stroking, I didn't want to give them the satisfaction but my hand was there. He asked how his dick tasted, the question was clearly aimed at me but she stopped to answer "good!", saving me the humiliation of answering.
Your Girlfriend clearly has a little dominatrix inside of Her, but She is a very loving Dominant. She is in essence only forcing you to do the things you subconciously wants to happen, but have been to hung up in what society has trained you to think of as normal.
anondesires wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:04 pm
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I think this had been my favourite moment both times I'd watched. That feeling that I shouldn't be allowing this but feeling helpless to stop it as his massive member stretches her and goes to places I've never been. Her facial expressions that I've never seen, not to that extreme anyway. It was like she was both shocked and winded at the same time, catching her breath at random times.

They hadn't paid any attention to me for a while, I took the opportunity to lightly stroke my cock, being mindful to be able to make it look like I wasn't if they were to look in my direction.

He began confidently fucking her and manhandling her into wherever/whatever he wanted her. There was no need to do it the way he was doing it, it was clearly to put on a show to me. She was essentially in a cyclic trance of noisy buildup to orgasm, orgasm and then silence until he stopped to let her come down. I would be happy just giving her one of those orgasms. In one of the positions, he picked her up and fucked her which was another new one, again making me suspicious of what happened on Wednesday. Does he have a sex swing at his house or something? She hadn't mentioned anything.
Isn't it simply so wonderful to see your Lady getting what She needs, forcing you to watch, forcing you to accept that this is what both of you need and wants?
anondesires wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:04 pm
As he was getting close, he backed off the pace and under his heavy breathing shouted "beg me to fill her up", I stopped stroking. She shouted back "fill me with your cum". He replied "not you, your cucked boyfriend...". I said nothing. She told me to beg him, using my name and a "please...". Again, I said nothing, not wanting to give him the satisfaction. He then said "Alright... beg me NOT to fill her up...". Suddenly if felt like I wouldn't be giving into what he wanted if I now did the first option. She was looking at me in desperation as he fucked her slowly and frustratingly. She let out a "please [my name]...". I said "please... fill her up". He then clarified "you want me to empty my balls into your girlfriend's pussy?", I reluctantly told him "yes". It was so humiliating, my heart was thumping through my chest, I couldn't help but stroke my dick, it was a rush. It clearly turned him on a lot too, he picked up the pace and was power fucking her, I think he even chuckled and said "fuck yes" under his breath. I felt so cucked but I felt so aroused. I focussed on enjoying the feeling, watching as he was about to blow his load inside her, something I had just begged him to do, it felt so wrong to have done that and yet it turned me on to think about having done so. She started cumming, it seemed to interrupt his flow, he let her cum and then started to fuck her again and told me to beg him again. "Please, fill her" I think I said, still stroking as much as I dare without getting too close myself. My words seemed to go straight to his dick and he unloaded for what seemed like a long time, gasping and grunting in a descending rhythm.
Yes, She made you beg your big cocked friend to fill Her up with his cream....
anondesires wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:04 pm

..... He left the room, I waited to hear him finish the stairs and then got on the bed between her legs. She looked so beautiful, I wanted to please her, I wanted to surprise her. It felt more like the time she had come home from sucking someone's dick, I didn't care, I was too horny. I held her thighs with my arms and went down on her. She seemed shocked but was pleasantly surprised and enjoyed it. The thought of doing this with him just downstairs felt risky and humiliating but I wanted to make her happy and cum.
Maybe your horniness helped you overcome your resistance at that very moment, but isn't this something deeper? The true love of your Girlfriend coming out inside you, your need to please Her, to show Her how incredibly much you love Her, how you want to please Her and feel that you are able to actually please Her as well as Her big-cocked bull friend of yours?
anondesires wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:04 pm
We then made love, kissing passionately. It occurred to me that our most intimate sex was always with his semen intertwined with our lips and genitals. The thought got me close to cumming, then I remembered begging him to put his semen there and came hard. It felt amazing followed by immense shame. We embraced for a minute or two, remembering that he was downstairs. I realised I now had to talk to him as if nothing had happened, despite all that had just happened.
.......
Sounds like a truly life-changing experience.....
And for the better?

Sincerely
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:57 am

elina wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:33 am
how you want to please Her and feel that you are able to actually please Her as well as Her big-cocked bull friend of yours?
It does feel good to please her, especially when she's feeling euphoric from the sex with him. I guess it feels like "standing on the shoulders of giants", he puts in all the work and I get to give her that final orgasm and we can make love and share the moment/emotions.

Pleasing him though... that's a weird notion. It was weirdly hot to see the affect that my words had on him but it feels a bit wrong, I'm not sure where that goes.
elina wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:33 am
Sounds like a truly life-changing experience.....
And for the better?
It seems like all 3 of us are getting what we want/need from this arrangement. I still feel conflicted for a lot of reasons about it all and directions it could go in. Tangent... last year I hacked down a Yucca that was given to me as a teenager. Despite pruning the leaves, the actual trunks had gotten too big and unruly. I felt really bad about it and hated seeing it looking so dead for a long time. Recently I've realised that it's starting to look better than it's looked in years, there were healthy looking shoots around all of the cuts that I made that have grown all around it. I know it's a weird comparison but it feels symbolic, going through months of bad feeling and regret to realise that actually this could be better all round, I just couldn't imagine it before.

I think when it was just the 2 of us, going through this journey of discovery, it felt more like it was just our relationship at stake, which was difficult but people do abandon relationships for various reasons. Now that my friend is involved, it feels much more difficult to abandon should I need to. If I broke up with her, he would probably still be there when I start another relationship, he can't unknow what he now knows. He'd probably be thinking about fucking every future girlfriend I have. That both scares me and turns me on, I'm not sure I considered it enough before we got into this. The seed that she planted the other week about how he'll probably be my best man and fuck my future wife on our wedding day hasn't left my mind.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by elina » Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:43 am

anondesires wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 2:57 am
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elina wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 12:33 am
Sounds like a truly life-changing experience.....
And for the better?
It seems like all 3 of us are getting what we want/need from this arrangement. I still feel conflicted for a lot of reasons about it all and directions it could go in. Tangent... last year I hacked down a Yucca that was given to me as a teenager. Despite pruning the leaves, the actual trunks had gotten too big and unruly. I felt really bad about it and hated seeing it looking so dead for a long time. Recently I've realised that it's starting to look better than it's looked in years, there were healthy looking shoots around all of the cuts that I made that have grown all around it. I know it's a weird comparison but it feels symbolic, going through months of bad feeling and regret to realise that actually this could be better all round, I just couldn't imagine it before.

I think when it was just the 2 of us, going through this journey of discovery, it felt more like it was just our relationship at stake, which was difficult but people do abandon relationships for various reasons. Now that my friend is involved, it feels much more difficult to abandon should I need to. If I broke up with her, he would probably still be there when I start another relationship, he can't unknow what he now knows. He'd probably be thinking about fucking every future girlfriend I have. That both scares me and turns me on, I'm not sure I considered it enough before we got into this. The seed that she planted the other week about how he'll probably be my best man and fuck my future wife on our wedding day hasn't left my mind.
Dear Anondesires,

Thank you for responding to my reflections.

Everything you say seems so true and resonates with me.

In particular the statement that I highlighted above.

However, to the very romantic and submissive elina longing for my Wife to enslave me, the wonderful part of that statement is that your Girlfriend is in Her mind planning your future wedding to Her!!! Doesn't that resonate strongly with you?

She is also discussing with you how this might end if She decides She wants to switch from your friend to another bull. You are the constant factor in Her life. Your friend is an expandable fucktoy to Her and She is mostly concerned about how the ending could impact your friendship.

At the risk of repeating myself, finding a Lady like your Girlfriend who is both incredibly attractive, clearly very smart, able to take the lead and get what She wants, but at the same time all of the time making sure She is progressing in a way that while pushing your boundaries are not pushing so far that you actually do use the safeword.... To me it is evident that you are the one that She wants.

I think the chances that you will ever be able to hook another Girl even close to this one is negligible.
So the romantic in elina thinks mayb you should soon now go down on your knees and tell Her you realize how deeply you love Her and that your highest desire is to spend your life with Her..... ;) But off course, up to you

Sincerely
elina

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:09 am

elina wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 4:43 am
So the romantic in elina thinks mayb you should soon now go down on your knees and tell Her you realize how deeply you love Her and that your highest desire is to spend your life with Her..... ;) But off course, up to you
I'm still taking this day by day to see if it's right for me and/or us. I'm nowhere close to considering committing to it for life.:lol: I feel committed to her but I still can't be sure that this dynamic is what we need, what will keep us together and strong. Until I can be confident in that, it wouldn't make much sense to propose. Like I said before, I wouldn't want to go through a divorce with her...

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:05 am

That Monday night while we were kissing on the sofa with her sat on top of me, she casually drops it in that she's going to his house after work on Wednesday again. She didn't ask this time, didn't check I was ok with it, I just got told. I hated that it was hotter to me this way and she probably knew it. I wondered if she'd deliberately done it that way, knowing I'd find it hotter, whether she was prioritising the needs of her pussy or whether it felt like a privilege for her to please his dick. I wanted to ask but sometimes it's hotter to not know these things, I'd learned to like taunting myself with these thoughts.

I did however ask her if they get up to anything different at his than what I'd seen at ours. She didn't think so, she said it was just sex the same as I'd watched her do with him. I commented on how he went down on her last time, she said he did at his too and then seemed to stop abruptly like she'd remembered something bad. I asked what she was going to say. She asked me not to be mad at her but he'd asked her how he could be sure he wasn't eating my creampie.
Me: And...
Her: I told him we don't have sex for a day or two before meeting him
Me: Shit...
Her: I'm sorry! I didn't realise the implications...
Me: That he knows he's effectively denied me 8 days of my own girlfriend's pussy?
Her: Well nobody's physically denying you...
Me: Even better! He thinks I've denied myself to keep you nice and fresh for him? :lol:
Me: I bet he loved that?
Her: It seemed to make him harder...
Me: How do you know that?
Her: I was kinda sucking him at the time...
Me: Fuck...
Me: Can we trick him into eating a creampie?
Her: No!
Me: What?! It's fine to make me do it but holy unethical to make him do it?
Her: I never tricked you into it! You knew what you were doing!
Me: So if I fuck you Wednesday morning, what would you do?
Her: I guess tell him and see what he wants to do...
Me: Tempting...
Her: Is it though? Would it actually turn you on to make him eat a creampie? Or are you just trying to get even because your pride hurts?
Me: I don't know
Her: Well then, calm down, I bet he's not even mentioned it to you

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by venus-can99 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:20 am

Anon - this lovely woman is a keeper IMO. She knows what she wants and as elina said a light dominatrix.
I thought your comparison to pruning the yucca tree was very much on point.
Maybe next time he comes to your apartment she will make you wear the cage so you dont masturbate seeing them

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by elina » Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:30 am

venus-can99 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:20 am
Anon - this lovely woman is a keeper IMO. She knows what she wants and as elina said a light dominatrix.
I thought your comparison to pruning the yucca tree was very much on point.
Maybe next time he comes to your apartment she will make you wear the cage so you dont masturbate seeing them
Or even better;

Maybe Anon you should demonstrate your acceptance of the situation by asking your Girlfriend to cage you to demonstrate your commitment to Her. If She were to keep you chaste all the time you are not allowed to put your spermies into Her pussy, both of you would know that you accept this. You can still cuddle Her, kiss Her, lick Her pussy....

I am sure your Girlfriend would truly appreciate it.....

Sincerely
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by sucker00 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:32 am

The seed that she planted the other week about how he'll probably be my best man and fuck my future wife on our wedding day hasn't left my mind.
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Anon, this struck a chord with me when I read your account where your GF told you this. It seems to me, that your GF has either done a deep dive into researching the cuckolding kink, or she was already into it before you realized it. The more you write, the more I think your GF didn't have to do much research, being that she was already keenly aware of this kink and by the sounds of, turned on by it every bit as much as you are. She really seems to be taking the wheel on this bus ride the two of you are on.

Back to the wedding comment, I can't help but think that there's more to the fantasy she told you about the wedding night...as in she probably also likes the idea of you being in chastity and denied sex with her on your wedding night. This scenario often goes hand in hand with the wedding night bull fantasy. Has any of this crossed your mind?

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by allways » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:05 am

Anon I know you know how lucky you both are. Your feelings and connection for your ages is exceptional. I was a swinger before I met and married a good catholic girl who knew nothing about my past when I was 32 and she was 29. She could not handle the idea of me playing with another woman. Eventually it was me after 10 years of marriage that encouraged her to cuckold me. It lasted 25 years. He was happily married but was sex starved. He once commented to me how lucky I was to have a partner who enjoyed sex after years of marriage. Having your bride who consumates her marriage with you by having him first is every cuckolds dream come true..... However different strokes for different folks.

What is important is communication that you both are good at. When you have kids your focus will change but having a reliable long term fuck buddy just adds to the spice of the marriage.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:08 am

sucker00 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:32 am
she probably also likes the idea of you being in chastity and denied sex with her
elina wrote:
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asking your Girlfriend to cage you to demonstrate your commitment to Her
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Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:20 am
Maybe next time he comes to your apartment she will make you wear the cage so you dont masturbate seeing them
I don't think denial has ever been a turn-on for her (or me). She still seems to like it when I get the urge to overpower and dominate her and I think she likes that there's always that option available. I guess she's a true switch, she gets off on it as long as [at least] one of us is getting dominated.
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It seems to me, that your GF has either done a deep dive into researching the cuckolding kink, or she was already into it before you realized it.
She claims to have known nothing (or very little) about it before she started researching. I think it's fair to say she fell in love with the concept. She'd had two previous relationships where she attempted to have her cake and eat it but it didn't work out right. Now she had discovered a well documented way and plenty of "manuals" on how to make it happen. She has however described how she liked her ex being more dominant in reaction to getting "cucked" but it makes me feel the opposite, I can't help how I feel I guess, she seems to enjoy it anyway but I can't help feel she'd like me to take her back and own her afterwards.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by sucker00 » Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:08 am

anondesires wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:08 am
sucker00 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:32 am
sucker00 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:32 am
It seems to me, that your GF has either done a deep dive into researching the cuckolding kink, or she was already into it before you realized it.
She claims to have known nothing (or very little) about it before she started researching. I think it's fair to say she fell in love with the concept. She'd had two previous relationships where she attempted to have her cake and eat it but it didn't work out right. Now she had discovered a well documented way and plenty of "manuals" on how to make it happen. She has however described how she liked her ex being more dominant in reaction to getting "cucked" but it makes me feel the opposite, I can't help how I feel I guess, she seems to enjoy it anyway but I can't help feel she'd like me to take her back and own her afterwards.
If you try to take the dominant route after she has a session with your friend, you'll find out very quickly whether or not that's what she wants.
When my wife was having her fling, I tried to fuck her the way she described her lover fucking her and it upset her... needless to say, I didn't try to take on that persona again in the bedroom. Women in these kinds of affairs seem to like each of her men to love her a certain kind of way, because each man fills a specific emotional need... at least that was my assessment of it.

Side note, sorry that I keep jacking up the quotes for these responses. I try to edit it down to just what I'm specifically responding to, and am not knowledgeable enough to know what command lines I can keep and delete.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by wannabecUKold » Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:07 am

sucker00 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:08 am

anondesires wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:08 am
sucker00 wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 6:32 am
It seems to me, that your GF has either done a deep dive into researching the cuckolding kink, or she was already into it before you realized it.
She claims to have known nothing (or very little) about it before she started researching. I think it's fair to say she fell in love with the concept. She'd had two previous relationships where she attempted to have her cake and eat it but it didn't work out right. Now she had discovered a well documented way and plenty of "manuals" on how to make it happen. She has however described how she liked her ex being more dominant in reaction to getting "cucked" but it makes me feel the opposite, I can't help how I feel I guess, she seems to enjoy it anyway but I can't help feel she'd like me to take her back and own her afterwards.
If you try to take the dominant route after she has a session with your friend, you'll find out very quickly whether or not that's what she wants.
When my wife was having her fling, I tried to fuck her the way she described her lover fucking her and it upset her... needless to say, I didn't try to take on that persona again in the bedroom. Women in these kinds of affairs seem to like each of her men to love her a certain kind of way, because each man fills a specific emotional need... at least that was my assessment of it.
Sucker00: I think this is what you wanted.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:32 pm

Wednesday 9th July...
It started much the same as the previous Wednesday. I didn't work as late, I figured I could handle it now. I got home, the house was empty. Probably 10 minutes after I got home I get a message from my friend. It was a picture of my girlfriend in her underwear, heels still on, more makeup than when she had left. She was posing for the photo, it was nice that they were thinking of me. The message said, "if it were the other way around, you'd give her what she wanted, right?". I asked what she wanted. There was a long pause.

Next came a short clip of her sucking him from his pov. I was familiar with this sight except his dick was much bigger, it was more satisfying to watch. I sat watching it on loop and jerking off. I wondered if she was thinking about me. There was nothing for a while and then another video clip of him fucking her doggy and her being really noisy with a message, "she's getting what she wanted...", followed by "don't worry, I'll give you what you want too...". I then watched this one on loop, feeling cucked and defeated, it was a feeling I now enjoyed and craved. There was another pause and then another clip of her freshly creampied pussy and her saying "see you soon baby, love you" with a devilish grin. He then messaged, "she was very grateful..." followed by "I know you are too... don't mention it...". I didn't say anything.

I didn't loop the creampie video but I went back to watch it a 2nd, 3rd, probably 4th time. Each time I realised I "wanted" to go down on her and would stop watching only to crave that feeling of feeling wrong for wanting it. I looked forward to her coming home, it seemed to take so much longer than I expected.

She walked in the front door, I didn't get up, I stayed sat on the sofa. She walked in and stood in front of me, heels still on. She looked like she was in a playful and dominant mood, she had a serious aura about her. She pulled down her underwear, they fell around her heels, she stepped out of them and kicked them away, they were laced with cum. She said "well... what are you waiting for, don't you want your present?". I can't remember if she gestured somehow but I knew what she meant. I kneeled before her, lifted up her dress and without really looking as it was difficult to see from that angle I started to eat her pussy. She was so tall in her heels, she looked and acted so powerful, I couldn't help but want to worship her pussy. She condescendingly called me a "good boy" and to be honest, it didn't feel bad. She told me she worked hard to get this present for me and asked "aren't you going to thank me?". I said "thank you" and carried on eating her. She was getting off on it. She said "I want you to call me Miss... thank me for fucking your best friend and making you my cuck...", I replied "thank you Miss", it felt weird now but still hot and I went along with it, she seemed to be getting a kick out of it. She walked over to the chair, sat back in it, spread her legs over the arms of it and told me to worship her pussy, make her cum. I went to work and had her cumming soon after. It looked and sounded like a good orgasm. Afterwards she snapped out of character, kissed me, told me she loved me and invited me upstairs to make love.

As we lay in bed after, she asked me how I felt about her being like that. I said it was a little strange but it was interesting and hot. She said she didn't expect to enjoy the power trip as much as she did, the idea and feeling came to her on the drive over and she decided to run with it. It obviously wasn't the first time she had played dominant but it was another level. I got the impression she had been inspired by how my friend was dominating her.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by coastalkid » Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:37 pm

A couple of things stand out in my processing of your retelling.

One is that your best friend seems to have to ride a line between truly wanting to humiliate you and not wanting to ruin your friendship. Every time you throw it back at him with, "How would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot?" He clearly realizes the depth of his actions and behaviors and appears to imagine how difficult it would be to handle what is getting dished out to you. I get the impression that if he didn't know you he would be inundating you with humiliation with no limit. He seems to take joy in a dominant role.

The second thing is that for some reason your wife divulges things you've told her that you don't want anyone else to know. It's happened more than once. You'd think that she would be sensitive to your wishes in this regard. In your posts you've mentioned that she has claimed she "didn't know" or she thought it was "no big deal". She can only claim ignorance for so long. At some point she has to admit that her "looseness" with sharing knowledge of your behaviors and actions are intentional. If you were to say to her, "Hey, look honey! I know you didn't mean to let this or that slip and I get that it was a mistake. Please don't do that anymore.", what would she tell you in response?

In regard to the "research" your gf has done, do you have any notion or idea as to how much she's "researched"? There's a wide, wide multitude of indignities to be delved into, far, far worse than cleaning up a creampie in private. Does she know what your non-starters are? Will she see your non-starters as barriers to be broken? Have you had any discussion with her about the key issues you are either uninterested in or are revolted by? I would think in the knowledge of her cavalier handling of your personal secrets that she may make other assumptions.
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by hornedhubby » Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:49 pm

She certainly has the cucktress gene. I don't think it took too much research to stir her imagination. And she's running with it.

Is she your best choice as a life partner? Only you can answer that one. You know now that it would be a wild adventure. Marriage won't slow her down, and it might fully unleash her dominant streak.

Are you up for that?

Your relationship with your best friend puzzles me. Are you more like his sidekick? This is not an unusual male friendship dynamic. It sure sounds like it.

I've seen it a lot in life and would not say it is the ideal model for best friendship.

Best luck.
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by elina » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:16 am

anondesires wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:32 pm
Wednesday 9th July...
.....
She walked in the front door, I didn't get up, I stayed sat on the sofa. She walked in and stood in front of me, heels still on. She looked like she was in a playful and dominant mood, she had a serious aura about her. She pulled down her underwear, they fell around her heels, she stepped out of them and kicked them away, they were laced with cum. She said "well... what are you waiting for, don't you want your present?". I can't remember if she gestured somehow but I knew what she meant. I kneeled before her, lifted up her dress and without really looking as it was difficult to see from that angle I started to eat her pussy. She was so tall in her heels, she looked and acted so powerful, I couldn't help but want to worship her pussy. She condescendingly called me a "good boy" and to be honest, it didn't feel bad. She told me she worked hard to get this present for me and asked "aren't you going to thank me?". I said "thank you" and carried on eating her. She was getting off on it. She said "I want you to call me Miss... thank me for fucking your best friend and making you my cuck...", I replied "thank you Miss", it felt weird now but still hot and I went along with it, she seemed to be getting a kick out of it. She walked over to the chair, sat back in it, spread her legs over the arms of it and told me to worship her pussy, make her cum. I went to work and had her cumming soon after. It looked and sounded like a good orgasm. Afterwards she snapped out of character, kissed me, told me she loved me and invited me upstairs to make love.

As we lay in bed after, she asked me how I felt about her being like that. I said it was a little strange but it was interesting and hot. She said she didn't expect to enjoy the power trip as much as she did, the idea and feeling came to her on the drive over and she decided to run with it. It obviously wasn't the first time she had played dominant but it was another level. I got the impression she had been inspired by how my friend was dominating her.
Thank you Anondesires,

I really appreciate you continue to share...

In one of your earlier posts you told us that you had fantasies of cuckolding and female dominance in your younger years, but that you just supressed them and did not want to act on them.

Then when your current girlfriend revealed Her very active sex life before She met you, it stimulated your cuckold fantasies and started the path to where the two of you are today. Did you also tell you Girlfriend about fantasizing of Female Domination as well? Or have you kept that hidden from Her?

Some years ago, there was a webpage called femalesuperiority.com run by a Formidable Dominant Lady called Elise Sutton. The website is gone now, you can still find Elise Sutton's books on Amazon and maybe other sources. She was advocating "Loving female dominance" and actually arguing that submissive males where the best males, simply because they truly wanted to place the Woman first, and focus on pleasing Her first before allowing themselves pleasure.

One of Her key insights that She elucidated was the feedback loop where when a slightly dominant Lady feels Her beloved male becoming more submissive to Her, focusing on Her needs, this feeds Her desires to become more dominant. Similarly, a submissive male who experiences the Lady he loves becoming more demanding to him in a loving ways, it stimulates his desires to submit to Her and to focus on Her pleasure.

The way you describe what is now transpiring between you and your Girlfriend seems to me to be very similar.

Does this make sense to you?

Sincerely
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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:28 am

coastalkid wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:37 pm
One is that your best friend seems to have to ride a line between truly wanting to humiliate you and not wanting to ruin your friendship. Every time you throw it back at him with, "How would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot?" He clearly realizes the depth of his actions and behaviors and appears to imagine how difficult it would be to handle what is getting dished out to you. I get the impression that if he didn't know you he would be inundating you with humiliation with no limit. He seems to take joy in a dominant role.
For the first week or two, it felt like a natural extension of our regular dynamic. It was something we would joke about, poke each other about and it'd be fair/even banter. I agree that if I was someone else, he would have no problems dishing out the humiliation, I'd probably be interested to see that. It feels like he's walking a fine line between doing what he instinctively wants to do while trying to respect me. I think in the last week or 2, we've started to get into unfamiliar territory and I'm confused about where it goes and how it affects us.
coastalkid wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:37 pm
The second thing is that for some reason your wife divulges things you've told her that you don't want anyone else to know. It's happened more than once. You'd think that she would be sensitive to your wishes in this regard. In your posts you've mentioned that she has claimed she "didn't know" or she thought it was "no big deal". She can only claim ignorance for so long. At some point she has to admit that her "looseness" with sharing knowledge of your behaviors and actions are intentional. If you were to say to her, "Hey, look honey! I know you didn't mean to let this or that slip and I get that it was a mistake. Please don't do that anymore.", what would she tell you in response?
I can see her side of it, I can see his side too I guess. I guess this stuff would've come out eventually anyway. I was annoyed about it but I realised that nothing bad really came of it. I think you have to consider that they're in the heat of the moment, not considering everything before they speak. When she divulged that we don't have sex before they do, she just wanted to convince him it was fine to go down on her, not only that time, but every time. If I was to come down hard on her for it, she would probably just clam up with him for fear of accidently saying anything that might upset me, I'm not sure it would be good overall. She's always seemed genuinely sorry about it, I fully believe that if she had realised the effect of what she was telling him, she wouldn't have said it. They had a conversation about fantasies on the Wednesday I just wrote about, I'll probably write that up but she seemed to be more careful about it.
coastalkid wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:37 pm
In regard to the "research" your gf has done, do you have any notion or idea as to how much she's "researched"?
It started off with books. I think she read a lot of different "guides" and stuff. I've seen her google specific questions and thoughts she's had, I've seen Quora and reddit on her phone, I wonder if anything she's googled has brought her to this forum.
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Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:37 pm
There's a wide, wide multitude of indignities to be delved into, far, far worse than cleaning up a creampie in private. Does she know what your non-starters are?
We've had conversations about all the different things she's read about and whether either of us like those ideas since way back. After I first admitted to being into the idea, we had a run through of the common ones and I wrote about it here. She knows the common things and areas that are non-starters for me, we haven't mentioned every possible avenue but she seems to have a good grasp of it and we seem to agree on most of them.
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Will she see your non-starters as barriers to be broken?
If she wants it to happen, it seems that way. I think everything she has wanted to happen (except me sucking a cock) has happened and she's seemingly had fun making them happen. It's hard to say whether those things were non-starters now though. If I consider where I was at when I first posted here, I remember saying that I didn't even want her to know and anything with my friend was an absolute no. Was it a non-starter though? It turned me on.
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Mon Jul 14, 2025 3:37 pm
Have you had any discussion with her about the key issues you are either uninterested in or are revolted by?
I've said I'm not interested in a few different things and then we've tried them anyway. I don't regret them (even the pegging), they were an experience, you can't always know for sure you don't like something unless you try it. We have the safe word for anything that would be revolting to me.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:41 am

hornedhubby wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:49 pm
Is she your best choice as a life partner? Only you can answer that one. You know now that it would be a wild adventure. Marriage won't slow her down, and it might fully unleash her dominant streak.

Are you up for that?
I'm taking it day by day, it's far too early to say I think. I know that we're very well suited in most aspects of life. I think sexually, it remains to be explored how compatible we are.
hornedhubby wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:49 pm
Your relationship with your best friend puzzles me. Are you more like his sidekick? This is not an unusual male friendship dynamic. It sure sounds like it.

I've seen it a lot in life and would not say it is the ideal model for best friendship.
I'm not his sidekick at all. I guess it comes across that way from reading about the sexual dynamic? I think I said before but whenever we've gone out looking to meet women, he follows my lead. We're fairly balanced with mutual respect and I think that is making the sexual dynamic difficult. I'm not really sure how to proceed with that.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by anondesires » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:18 am

elina wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:16 am
In one of your earlier posts you told us that you had fantasies of cuckolding and female dominance in your younger years, but that you just supressed them and did not want to act on them.
I wouldn't say fantasies, I liked watching those genres of porn, I found the way the women acted to be hot but I couldn't really place it in terms of what I wanted. I didn't feel like I wanted to be dominated or cucked by any girl I knew or dated.
elina wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:16 am
Then when your current girlfriend revealed Her very active sex life before She met you, it stimulated your cuckold fantasies and started the path to where the two of you are today. Did you also tell you Girlfriend about fantasizing of Female Domination as well? Or have you kept that hidden from Her?
She knows that I've watched and got off to female domination porn and she knows I have a submissive side. I don't think we have any secrets anymore.
elina wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:16 am
Some years ago, there was a webpage called femalesuperiority.com run by a Formidable Dominant Lady called Elise Sutton. The website is gone now, you can still find Elise Sutton's books on Amazon and maybe other sources. She was advocating "Loving female dominance" and actually arguing that submissive males where the best males, simply because they truly wanted to place the Woman first, and focus on pleasing Her first before allowing themselves pleasure.

One of Her key insights that She elucidated was the feedback loop where when a slightly dominant Lady feels Her beloved male becoming more submissive to Her, focusing on Her needs, this feeds Her desires to become more dominant. Similarly, a submissive male who experiences the Lady he loves becoming more demanding to him in a loving ways, it stimulates his desires to submit to Her and to focus on Her pleasure.

The way you describe what is now transpiring between you and your Girlfriend seems to me to be very similar.

Does this make sense to you?
Her most recent relationship before me was an open relationship where it was almost purely sexual. I was able to lure her away from him just by building a connection with her. That is what she had been craving since her first relationship which broke down because of her exploring sexually with other guys. She's always known she likes to be dominated, I think before recently, she considered the other way around to be the opposite of what she enjoys. I think through reading and exploring cuckolding, she has realised there is some erotic pleasure to be experienced in being dominant herself. I don't think she wants me to be submissive but I think she has realised she enjoys it sometimes. I think it's very much linked to our connection and relationship, I can't imagine her getting anything from dominating someone she didn't have that with. I know at least from my perspective, it adds something to when I dominate her, that I'm "stripping her of her dominance", maybe she gets a similar feeling with me, we've not specifically discussed that one.

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Re: Recently started getting fantasies. How to cope with it?

Unread post by ppisbest5 » Tue Jul 15, 2025 2:22 am

anondesires wrote:
Tue Jul 15, 2025 1:41 am
hornedhubby wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:49 pm
Is she your best choice as a life partner? Only you can answer that one. You know now that it would be a wild adventure. Marriage won't slow her down, and it might fully unleash her dominant streak.

Are you up for that?
I'm taking it day by day, it's far too early to say I think. I know that we're very well suited in most aspects of life. I think sexually, it remains to be explored how compatible we are.
hornedhubby wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 5:49 pm
Your relationship with your best friend puzzles me. Are you more like his sidekick? This is not an unusual male friendship dynamic. It sure sounds like it.

I've seen it a lot in life and would not say it is the ideal model for best friendship.
I'm not his sidekick at all. I guess it comes across that way from reading about the sexual dynamic? I think I said before but whenever we've gone out looking to meet women, he follows my lead. We're fairly balanced with mutual respect and I think that is making the sexual dynamic difficult. I'm not really sure how to proceed with that.

Since there's already a lot of people egging you on and telling you how this is the best thing in the world for you, I'm gonna keep being in the opposite camp keep telling you to be cautious since this could all be just as disastrous as wonderful.

I know we only know very little about your girlfriend, pretty much just what you tell us, but it still feels to me that she's just doing all this as an exciting sexual experiment and seeing how was she's willing to take you (or break you).

Like you said how she planted the seed of your friend fucking your future girlfriends/wife , that sounds pretty hot but not at ALL like a good idea or realistically healthy. I think you're doing the right thing about taking this one thing at a time and not seriously committing for life right now.

You've twice mentioned now that you wouldn't want to fight her in a divorce cause she's very cunning as as we've seen, manipulative. I would also like to bring back the whole practically cheating on you and then blackmailing your friend thing where she basically kept lying to you and releasing the truth very little by little up untill you were bound and being fucked/pegged in the ass. I don't know how you got past that but to me personally those lies and manipulation would be an instant deal breaker since I value honestly over pretty much everything. (that incident pretty much solidified my opinion of your girlfriend as not a keeper. I hope you're not offended by this)

Either way, I just wanna say that if I had a partner who I would want to spend the rest of my life with I would hope that I don't have to think about fighting her in a divorce in the future before we're even married or engaged.

Hope you keep having fun and things stay positive but yeah just keep doing what you're doing by taking it one day at a time 👍🏻

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