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[HusbandX]

An observer for some time, I am neither a cuckold, nor is my wife a hotwife, and almost certainly, neither of us will ever be. We don't play, don't socialize, and neither of us have any associations of any kind, other than each other. I travel with work extensively, all internationally, and am gone much of the time. We may be the world's two most boring people.

Aspects of cuckolding, hotwifing, cheating, and so forth intrigue me, and I've experimented with those subjects in writing. My wife and I text in good humor about it, from time to time, mostly suggestions about the Amazon guy, etc. A lot of consideration and reflection on the topic has led me to expand my thinking about not only the subject, but to re-evaluate how I see myself, human dynamics, and the world in general. I think my journey in this is to seek understanding, with less judgement.

Many years ago, when the movie "Always" was released, the notion of one man forced to watch his wife/girlfriend carry on with another, really bothered me. It's a theme I ran up against with my first real girlfriend, and later, my first wife, and it's a subject to which I held a life-long zero-tolerance policy. At the same time, I've always held that one person does not own another; I don't own my wife, not is it my place to dictate her choices. My evolution has been one of arriving at a place where unconditional acceptance of her choices, whatever they may be, is embraced. I would never encourage my wife to seek an affair, physical, or otherwise, but it's taken a lifetime to come to this point, at which I both wouldn't interfere, and would support her choices.

I've nothing to contribute here as a cuckold, or participant, or any insight into the lifestyle, experiences, etc; I'm a casual observer reading for content, and thus, little more than a fly on the wall.

[Arveland]

In any relationship, we cannot be sure whether the other person can be faithful forever or not. Everything is relative and forces you to accept or share with the couple to understand or let go.

[armyguyot1]

Welcome to the forum Arveland.

[Swanilla]

Never say 'never.' My wife and I went from "Fuck no. Never gonna happen" to full swap in just a few days. LOL

[Shiphead]

Do you want to share how your adventure?

[HusbandX]

Never say 'never.' My wife and I went from "Fuck no. Never gonna happen" to full swap in just a few days. LOL

I don't really do never, but then I never thought I'd come home from an emergency trip to Mexico to find my first wife, and kids, gone in a blinding blizzard, only to have them turn up on a remote indian reservation living with her half-brother...who left his wife and six kids to be with her. Not even Jerry Springer could make that stuff up...or my ex-girlfriend's beau who found himself staring down the barrel of my shotgun one night. She called me later to say she was having his child. I never thought, when I stepped out the door of an airplane one afternoon that I'd find myself pasted across a cliff, or that I'd wake up in intensive care, or find myself being rocketed and mortared in foreign countries, or wake up in a house on fire...but we don't always live the life we planned, as life gets in the way. So, you're right. Never say never, and yet, I'm quite certain neither my wife, nor I, have any inclination to seek another. We don't even socialize with anyone. Ever.

As in, "ever." We have no social media, no cameras in the house, no smart-anything; when the kids were at home, they weren't allowed to face-time or transmit pictures of the house, and we didn't have their friends over. Nobody visits. We don't go to parties, do events, have anyone over for dinner, outside of family. Neither of us have our pictures taken or put online. We don't give out personal information. We remove any identifying names, addresses, bar codes, or information in letters and packages, shred, and burn it, and scatter the ashes. We don't do facebook or whatsapp, or any of those things. We don't carry on a correspondence with others.

There are a lot of things I thought I'd never do; enough to fill volumes. I will never cheat on my wife; she knows that. I'm quite certain she will never undertake any kind of relationship outside our marriage. We never know if we'll be hit by a car or meteorite, if we'll choke on our bean salad, or get bitten by a camel spider...but the mountain just outside the door is unlikely to move in our lifetime, and our chance of stepping beyond our marriage is nill, too. Not that there isn't a certain appeal...but we're both so boring, and so prone to inaction, that the world will explode before we'll get up to change the channel.

[Swanilla]

Never say 'never.' My wife and I went from "Fuck no. Never gonna happen" to full swap in just a few days. LOL

I don't really do never, but then I never thought I'd come home from an emergency trip to Mexico to find my first wife, and kids, gone in a blinding blizzard, only to have them turn up on a remote indian reservation living with her half-brother...who left his wife and six kids to be with her. Not even Jerry Springer could make that stuff up...or my ex-girlfriend's beau who found himself staring down the barrel of my shotgun one night. She called me later to say she was having his child. I never thought, when I stepped out the door of an airplane one afternoon that I'd find myself pasted across a cliff, or that I'd wake up in intensive care, or find myself being rocketed and mortared in foreign countries, or wake up in a house on fire...but we don't always live the life we planned, as life gets in the way. So, you're right. Never say never, and yet, I'm quite certain neither my wife, nor I, have any inclination to seek another. We don't even socialize with anyone. Ever.

As in, "ever." We have no social media, no cameras in the house, no smart-anything; when the kids were at home, they weren't allowed to face-time or transmit pictures of the house, and we didn't have their friends over. Nobody visits. We don't go to parties, do events, have anyone over for dinner, outside of family. Neither of us have our pictures taken or put online. We don't give out personal information. We remove any identifying names, addresses, bar codes, or information in letters and packages, shred, and burn it, and scatter the ashes. We don't do facebook or whatsapp, or any of those things. We don't carry on a correspondence with others.

There are a lot of things I thought I'd never do; enough to fill volumes. I will never cheat on my wife; she knows that. I'm quite certain she will never undertake any kind of relationship outside our marriage. We never know if we'll be hit by a car or meteorite, if we'll choke on our bean salad, or get bitten by a camel spider...but the mountain just outside the door is unlikely to move in our lifetime, and our chance of stepping beyond our marriage is nill, too. Not that there isn't a certain appeal...but we're both so boring, and so prone to inaction, that the world will explode before we'll get up to change the channel.

Wow! That is some crazy stuff! Looks like you two are very reclusive. Nothing wrong with that if that is what you like! Understandable given some of the things that have happened!

[allways]

A, I've always held that one person does not own another; I don't own my wife, not is it my place to dictate her choices. My evolution has been one of arriving at a place where unconditional acceptance of her choices, whatever they may be, is embraced. I would never encourage my wife to seek an affair, physical, or otherwise, but it's taken a lifetime to come to this point, at which I both wouldn't interfere, and would support her choices.

I liked this part because what it says. Different strokes for different folks You love your wife and although very very unlikely if she did want to play with someone else you would be her loving cuckold. Your choices suit your lifestyle and if that is what spins your wheels great. Your open enough to be a fly on the wall and not judge.

[Dutchpride7]

Welcome aboard you & yours Husband X. I' haven't experienced someone on being on a site that they just explained that they have no desire or interest whatsoever to be involved in the lifestyle that the site so much offers.
That to me is like going to the grocery store to absolutely buy nothing. I'm confused & wondering what's the point? Thee only thing I can think is to what he said best to be a fly on the wall. I hope you enjoy the site regardless & I may not understand,that's perfectly fine,there's a lot more I don't understand. Not everything. Is meant for me to understand & a lot of times,It's through time.

[HusbandX]

I frequently walk into a gun store, and don't buy a gun. I go to an airshow, don't buy an airplane, or fly aerobatics. I went to see the last Mission Impossible, and yet, I'm not a spy. I don't mind watching shark week, but will almost certainly never dive with sharks, or even go out on a boat. I even watched the olympics, and yet don't figure skate, run, jump, or throw a javelin.

You get my point.

[Dutchpride7]

Not really because you don't make ANY sense when comparing apples to oranges. Get it,,got it,GOOD. I thought you were going to be a fly on the wall,your more like a fly in thee ointment....

[Dutchpride7]

Not really because you don't make ANY sense when comparing apples to oranges. Get it,,got it,GOOD. I thought you were going to be a fly on the wall,your more like a fly in thee ointment....

[HusbandX]

Thanks for the insults. It's unfortunate I don't measure up to your standard.

So...grocery store and not buying groceries is apples to apples, then, but gun store and not buying a gun is not. Grocery store is apples to apples, but airshow and not flying aerobatics or buying an airplane is not. Grocery store is apples to apples, but...anything not grocery store and groceries is not. Are these rules written somewhere? That would be useful.

I frequently go to a grocery store, by the way, and come out without what I was looking for, perhaps because they didn't have it, or perhaps because I changed my mind, or perhaps because my wife called and said "never mind, found it," or any number other reasons..and in foreign countries, I've often walked through a grocery store without buying, just to see what was there.

Not acceptable to come to a hotwife and cuckold site, however, unless one has or is a hotwife? Or is a cuckold?

At least in a grocery store, one needs to eat to live. One can go a very long time without sex, and a lot of people do. I shouldn't have to expand on my wife's brain condition, or on my own health issues which may, or may not impact my ability to participate, or expand on any other factor that plays a role...apparently unless my wife is fucking the baker or the butcher, I'm unacceptable in your world, and you've made sure in my introductory thread as a new guy, that you've put me in my place and that I know it. Thanks, mate.

You might as well unload the other barrel now. Go ahead. Pull the trigger. You know you want to.

[leggysman]

Take it easy fellas.

HusbandX, no worries, there's no rule that anyone has to participate in real life in order to be here, or be interested, or to discuss this stuff. There are loads of people here who don't (see for example the Wannabe forum). I believe I get what you're saying - that it's just not a realistic possibility given your circumstances and lifestyle: Fair enough mate.

Welcome!

[HusbandX]

leggysman, I read your story, linked in your post, and thanks for sharing, but now my cage hurts.

A lot.