My girlfriend and my boss

[newcucktoo]

Hi thanks Freemans, your insights are always very interesting and I appreciate your support.

What did you mean by this...

Lastly, why don’t you work with Mrs P to organise a date night for Becky with one of the older married gentleman’s? Tell Mrs P that you want to give Becky the same experience as what Isla has had, and you want Mrs P help to find a suitable gentleman that will give her a great experience. I reckon both you and Mrs P will have fun with this and find it a bonding experience as well.

[Freemans892]

Hi thanks Freemans, your insights are always very interesting and I appreciate your support.

What did you mean by this...

Lastly, why don’t you work with Mrs P to organise a date night for Becky with one of the older married gentleman’s? Tell Mrs P that you want to give Becky the same experience as what Isla has had, and you want Mrs P help to find a suitable gentleman that will give her a great experience. I reckon both you and Mrs P will have fun with this and find it a bonding experience as well.

You remember about a week or so ago prior to Isla’s date with one of Peter’s associates, Isla suggested that you take Becky out and then pay her 100 pounds at the end of the night. Isla knew that Becky would get a thrill out of it. I’m along these lines. I’m sure that Becky will also get thrill out of scenario where you organise a date with a wealthy married man from one of Peter’s and Mrs P’s associates. I also think that you and Mrs P would enjoy organising for this happen for Becky and will give Mrs P more insight about you. I get the feeling that Mrs P enjoys sharing young studs with her MILF hotwife friends.

[newcucktoo]

Oh ok. I understand. Interesting!

[wannabecUKold]

I suspect that Mrs P and Peter (and perhaps the others) like the image of you and Isla being innocent boyfriend and girlfriend, where as innocents you let Isla get fucked by the older men, as if sex is something new to you both. And you would get seduced naked by Mrs P on the same basis. "Oh wow I didn't know you could this." That is how they see you two and thus they feel protective when Isla is abused.
Bringing Becky in would change that image, making you look more wordly-wise. Not that they would object to having another young body to play with.
I agree with Freeman that Mrs P will enjoy passing you round her MILF friends.

[newcucktoo]

I am meeting Mrs P for lunch today. I'll let you know how it goes.

[newcucktoo]

Hi 

I just got back from lunch with Mrs P and my head is spinning a little. Well alot actually.

We talked for about an hour and a half and kissed a little.

What I learned. Peter and Mrs P "play" in a small group of friends but often have other trusted people like Isla join them. For example Nick and his wife and thier girlfriend are part of their group, but the other guys Isla was introduced to aren't in the core group but they do go to parties together.

Peter has been attracted to Isla for over 12 months when they first met at the company fundraiser. Evidently it was Isla that made contact with Peter after the event. Not the other way around. Isla had been talking to Peter at the event and she messaged the week after with a cute photo of them together.

They started chatting on and off but it dropped off. They didn't meet at this point. Nothing happened till about three months ago when I told Isla we were going to their house for a BBQ and swim. She then messaged him and they started chatting. The met twice before the bbq. The first time was for lunch and they kissed. The second time for dinner and she ending up sucking him off and he came on her tits. Evidently Peter loves that the most.

It was Isla who told Peter she really wanted to fuck him for the first time when they were at his place and I was there too. Not watching but near bye. Mrs P even pointed out that Isla told Peter that she was buying a special bikini just for him. Which now makes sense.

Mrs P was part of the plan so they could fuck by distracting me inside. What she didn't plan on was that she would also feel so horny which is why she wanted to fuck me that night too. lol. As you know they ended up fucking twice that night.

Just so you know Mrs P was looking amazing. She was wearing a lovely blue and white summer dress that went just below her knees. The top was very open and showed alot of her tits. she was clearly not wearing a bra.

She is a very sexy woman.

After about an hour of hearing more about Peter and Isla and a couple of women at work that I know Mrs P asked what I thought about joining their small group. I asked "what do I have to do" and she said nothing really just enjoy sex and keep quiet about it. I laughed.

I also asked about the other men that Isla sees for 1000 pounds and she said that happens a bit as it's good for the girls to make some money and get looked after. She pointed out what happened to Isa was extremly rare and completely unacceptable and that guy had been cut out now. She said there would be woman intertested in me if I was interested. I said I didn't really know.

As we were finishing lunch she asked if I wanted to go for a walk with her. 

[wannabecUKold]

Thank you
Hot off the press!

Gee I love a cuckquean milf setting things up for her dear husband to fuck a pretty young woman. Think how horny Mrs P must have been seeing Isla.

The answer to Mrs P is an obvious yes, you’ll join the group, but starting with fucking her, and taking it slowly in moving to any others Milfs. Being the star attraction in a milf gangbang would be fun. Ask her at some point if they would pay. Check Peter is ok too. Don’t forget to get a promotion too.

Please rush us your account of the rest of the lunch.

[pixmangurn]

Your adventure gets more exciting with each post! GO FOR IT with Mrs. P at least! I think it excites Isla that you are her cuck, but also a bull for other ladies. As long as you are both on the same page be adventurous, try new things. You're both young, GO FOR IT!

[Freemans892]

It seems my guesses were right on a number of points. Peter and Mrs P are swingers, Mrs P is a cuckquean, Mrs P was part of the plan to distract but got so horny that she was trying to seduce newcucktoo. It does sounds like Mrs P wants to even the score a bit on newcucktoo and set him up with a number of her friends. The fact Mrs P give you so much details is a clear indication that she wants you and Isla to get closer their inner circle. On being provide with the “Nick and his wife and their girlfriend are part of their group” info, there would no issue with you introducing Becky as Isla’s best friend and your lover. Clearly, Mrs P has a significant amount of trust in you already because she mention a couple of women from your work. It wouldn’t surprise me if Mrs P wants to make you her toy boy and spend some money on you to buy really high-end clothes.

With your relationship with Isla, it will be a cuck type of relationship but with the freedom to be a stag and bull with other parallel relationships, with Isla full encouragement. Isla wants you to be Becky’s stag. By the sounds of it, Mrs P wants to use you as a Bull/toy boy/stud for her and her friends.

[ShyBiGuy954]

Hi 

I just got back from lunch with Mrs P and my head is spinning a little. Well alot actually.

Mrs P asked what I thought about joining their small group. I asked "what do I have to do" and she said nothing really just enjoy sex and keep quiet about it. I laughed.

She said there would be woman intertested in me if I was interested. I said I didn't really know.

As we were finishing lunch she asked if I wanted to go for a walk with her. 

The Queen is taking another fledgling under her wing, LOL.

[newcucktoo]

As we were walking along the street my cock was so hard. Mrs P had taken my arm and so my arm was rubbing against her breast. It sometime felt like she was pulling my arm into her breast.

We stopped at the light and she turned to me and stroked my face and said you don't need to be nervouse sweetie it will be ok. So I must have looked nervous.

We walked to this dress shop. It looked like they made expensive woman's dresses there and we went in which i thought was odd. Mrs P introduced me to the owner and one of the assistants who was very cute. She was my age. It was like they were expecting us. We talked for a few minutes and then Mrs P led me through the shop to a large changing room out the back. She closed and locked the door.

The room was the size of two bedrooms and had mirrors all around. There was a nice comfy couch in the middle and a small table and a little "stage" where I guess they do tailorings and viewings.

Mrs P came up to me and put her arms around my neck and said I had a choice to make.

I could join her little group and trust her or not. She said there is no harm in not joining, but I might miss alot of fun. While she was saying this she was gently kissing me and stroking my cock. We started kissing and she undid my pants. She also let me push the dress off her shoulders and it fell to the floor. she was wearing very cute light blue silky undies.

Then she said that today was just to let me think about things and she pushed me onto the couch and straddled me. I went to pull her undies off but she said not yet. she then held my cock and we kissed as she jerked me off stradling me. Again i tried to kiss her tits but she said no not yet.

To be honest I didn't last very long.

We kissed a little more and she got up and got me some tissues. And put her dress back on and watched as I got tucked in.

She then gave me a little kiss and said I needed to let her know.

When we walked through the store we said goodby to the owner and her assistant. When we were outside she said that the assistant obviously thought that I was cute and that she was like Isla in their group.

With that she squeezed my hand and left!

So there you go.

[newcucktoo]

Quick update:

Isla and I have been texting. She knows about lunch and asked me if i fucked Mrs P and I said no. She then asked if I came and I said yes and she asked in her mouth or hand and I said hand. She hasn't replied yet. I suggested we catch up tonight but I haven't heard back.

I think she's a bit pissed off actually. So we'll see what happens

[Freemans892]

Do you realise this is a golden opportunity to advance your career. Mrs P will introduce you to right people early on your career and make sure that you have the right contacts. I’m pretty sure that this what Nick and his wife did for Peter.

[newcucktoo]

To be honest I hadn't really thought about my career in all this. Isla is definitely pissed off. We aren't meeting and she said she was going home

[Freemans892]

Here’s my assessment why Isla is pissed.

Based on the following:

… I am 21 and have a current girlfriend but I am really turned on by the idea of sharing her or seeing her with another man. Mainly with an older man.
…
I should also mention that I think I am open to this way of thinking because I know my mother also saw other men when I was growing up. I don’t know if my dad knew. One of them was my father’s boss. She knew him for ages, and I first caught them together when I was in my teens. She also saw some other men that she told me about later.

Isla knows you enjoy idea of you sharing and she is able to do this on her terms. In fact, she knows see can disappear for a number of days and tell you what she had been up to at the later date. Isla has probably worked, based on you seeing mother’s activities when you were growing up, you find the cheating/Don’t Ask Don’t Tell of cuckolding hot. You are her cuck because she’s in full control of her sexually activities, even finding out she has a secondary boyfriend after she made her decision. You even accept being denied for a short period even when the other boyfriend has made that call. Your key concerns are no longer being her number one priority, being unsure relationship status or losing her completely.

Isla is a stag version of a cuckquean, i.e. on her terms, she needs to be involved in the first session, she wants to be involved in the planning, wants to hear the full details of your activities about the sexual encounter, and she needs to be confident that the other female is not trying to steal you away. For example:

So I went last night [to the pub] and it was ok / odd / stressful / fun all in one. When I arrived Peter and Isla were already there talking with some people so I went to the bar. …

One thing I didn't expect was that Isla's friend Becky was there and I probably spoke to her more than anyone. She knows everything which was a shock at first but makes sense. After Isla left Becky asked if I wanted to dance with her.

By the way, based on recent insights from Mrs P, I reckon Peter was observing yours and Beckys interaction and reported it back to Mrs P. Peter was definitely monitoring you that night and may have had an additional spy at the pub. I have a feeling that Peter is more clued into Becky than either you or Isla realise.

Another example:

I texted Isla about Becky and she said it was ok to meet her tonight so I'm going to catch up with Becky.

Below events clearly indicates that Isla spoke to Becky to text you:

... Last night Isla came over as planned. She looked so beautiful and happy. … We then talked about us and she said she knows this is awkward but Peter has asked her not to fuck me at the moment. She knows that’s not fair on me but it’s what she really wants at the moment.

We talked about Becky and she was happy that went well. She confirmed that Becky has wanted to fuck me for ages. She knows that’s Becky and I have kissed a few times.

… My cock was so hard and she could see. We kind of laughed but she said she had to go or it would get out of hand. We kissed at the door and she left. … So that was hard and frustrating and I’m a bit confused about what next. Becky texted about an hour later but I wasn’t really in the mood ...

I thought you be interested in how my night with Isla went. … I invited her home but she said she had stuff to do and so we just kissed at my place when we picked up her stuff and she went home.

About 30 minutes after she left Becky texted to catch up.

I believe one of the reasons why Isla is pissed is she lost control of your activities to a more experienced woman. I have to hand it to Mrs P, she’s very good and I would say a hell of a hotwife.

Isla is realising she being played at her own game by the other spouse. Mrs P arranges it so you can have 2 hour lunch break. Mrs P gives you the full timeline of events and you found it hot and Mrs P gets you all horny.

… They met twice before the bbq. The first time was for lunch and they kissed. The second time for dinner and she ending up sucking him off and he came on her tits. Evidently Peter loves that the most. …

As we were finishing lunch she asked if I wanted to go for a walk with her. 

Talk about organisation from a hotwife:

As we were walking along the street my cock was so hard. Mrs P had taken my arm and so my arm was rubbing against her breast. It sometime felt like she was pulling my arm into her breast. … then Mrs P led … to a large changing room out the back. She closed and locked the door.
… she was gently kissing me and stroking my cock. We started kissing and she undid my pants ... she then held my cock and we kissed as she jerked me off stradling me. Again i tried to kiss her tits but she said no not yet. … To be honest I didn't last very long.

Peter let Isla know that you had a hot lunch date with his wife once he got the details from her, but didn’t provide Isla with much details. My bet, Mrs P played out the exact same scenario with you, what Peter and Isla did on their first lunch date without you realising it. So Isla is pissed because she has lost control, see knows that Mrs P is seducing you and repeating the initial dates that Isla had with Peter. It was no coincidence on what went down yesterday, it was planned.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Peter is unavailable to catch-up with Isla for the remainder of the week, Isla gets a text from Mrs P to catch-up over lunch where she provides the rules of engagement going forward. The QUEEN is taking control.

Probably one of the rules of engagement will be along the lines of:

She replied that she and Peter share everything so of course she knew about it. She said how do you think we've stayed married so long

[wannabecUKold]

I suspect that Isla’s reaction was quite visceral : when it dawned on her and was confirmed by you that you had had sex with the older, more mature woman, it felt like a kick in the solar plexus and she could do nothing but run off. It felt like you had cheated, unlike when you had sex with Becky, which was all part of her own experiment with Peter.
She may feel disgusted with you, not wanting to be touched by you. That will wear off. She probably wants to beat her fists against you and cry and ask How could you? Give her that opportunity and big hugs.
Alongside that feeling, she may have cuckold feelings of arousal as she imagines you showing your erect cock to the older woman as her toy boy, just as Isla is the toy with Peter and his mates. After a while, she may like you doing it.

Let her sort it out in her mind herself. Don’t argue back. It’s actually a sign of her bond with you.

[newcucktoo]

So a little update. I hadn't heard back from Isla (and still haven't) so Mrs P suggested I meet the girl from the shop, Natalie to understand how the group works.

Natalie is about 5 10 and brown hair just longer than her shoulders.

We met at the pub and she had changed out of her dressy work clothes into jeans and a jacket. She kissed me on the cheek when we met and went into the pub. She's very cute and smiley.

When she took her jacket off inside she was wearing a silky top with thin straps. She had smallish breasts like b cup and you could see her nipples. I think she saw me looking and smiled. I was a little taken aback buy how pretty she was.

I got us some drinks and we talked about Mrs P and everything.

So she got invloved because Mrs P was a customer of the shop. They make personalised gowns and cocktail dresses for formal events and weddings etc.

She always got on well with her and then a couple of times Peter came into the shop with her. And one day Mrs P invited her for a coffee and basically invited her for a threesome with her and Peter.

She said she'd never done that before so she thought about it and said yes. She was attracted to Peter.

She said she had a great time and really enjoyed Peter fucking her. She said her favourit was when she was licking Mrs P and Peter was fucking her from behind. She didn't stay that night but saw them a week later also at the hotel and stayed with them both that night. She said that morning Mrs P had to leave early and so Peter fucked her twice after Mrs P left.

About a week later Mrs P couldn't meet and so she just saw Peter alone overnight and she was hooked! lol

Soon after she went and spent a weekend at their place. She said she spends much more time with Peter now than with Mrs P. She said it's been great fun. Shes been to parties with them and now sees other people in their group without Mrs P and Peter. She said she doesn't really see Peter now but she has a couple of other men that she sees. Mostly alone but sometimes more than one. The are all older men.

We were onto our second drink and I asked if it was ok for her to meet other people without Mrs P and Peter there. And she said like me seeing you? I said yes. She kind of blushed and said yes of course it's ok. We're grown ups and smiled. As long as we were discreet and didn't embarass anyone no one cares.

So I kind of clarified so if I wanted to see you how does that work. Do I have to let Mrs P know or somthing. She laughed and said like call a central help desk. Lol. She said if i wanted to see her all i had to do was text. Then she said she'd love to.

So we kept chatting less about this gorup and more about general stuff. Where we studied, holidays etc

I asked her if she wanted a third drink and she said she probably shouldn't as it makes her horny and i noticed her nipples again, but they were really showing. So of course I got us another drink! lol

She told me a bit more about the group. She said there were five main couples and then about 10 people like her. She said she has seen every possible combination where the couples swap even for whole weekends and holidays. And she said it's always been fun.

It was time to go and she told me if she ever wanted to know more just text her. She then gave me a little kiss on the lips. She was so sexy

[ShyBiGuy954]

Poor Becky, she must be feeling so left out this week. <wink>

[newcucktoo]

Lol true. Becky was away with work end of last week. I think I might find my way through this first!

[Freemans892]

So the innocent wife (Mrs P) has turned out to be sexy hot bisexual MILF hotwife who finds sexual hot women for a threesome with her husband. Not only that, Mrs P finds candidates for their little sex group. Fuck she good. I am liking Mrs P more and more.

Isla was been getting a thrill out of dating a wealthy married man behind his wife back, only to find the tables have been turned. Isla needs head space at the moment and time to work through her feelings. As for Becky, let her contact you because she is having to support Isla at the moment but she will definitely be on your side. Peter will definitely be on your side as well. It may take Isla a couple of weeks to process everything.

[newcucktoo]

An important update from last night...

So last night I went and saw a good friend Isla and mine. She is mid 30s and is a bit of a mentor to us. She has known Isla since they were kids. She is polyamourous and has a boyfiend and a girlfriend. In all transparency Isla and I have had sex with her multiple times tobether and on our own. She is my relationship go to guru!

I told her i needed to talk to her about Isla and she thought that was a good idea. She already knew about what was going on from Isla

She then talked a bit about Isla and how she can be quite self absorbed. She pointed out that she loves me but her feeling was that she was going through a different stage of her life right now where she is exploring what she needs and wants and is forgetting about me. She said I had been a great rock or home base for her but she was clearly neglecting me. She said that she had warned Isla about this but clearly she either wasn't listening or was choosing a different path.

She mentioned that Isla seemed very attracted to the wealth and power of these men and that was part of her path to follow. she also said that she seems to be enjoying the sex and attention.

She then asked about our sex life. she asked if we still have sex. yes. As much as we used to. no. Do we make love or just fuck and I said mainly fuck. Does she suck your cock. no not really. Does she swallow your cum. no. Does she ever put your needs first and i said no. Do I still get turned on when she is with other men? yes. Do I want to keep sharing her? yes

She just sort of said mmm like that's what she thought. She also laughed and said was I hard now and I said yes.

She asked how I felt about Isla and I explained that I often feel taken for granted and that we were slowly separating. That everything seems on her terms and that I can't really be who I want to be. I even pointed out about the last 12 hours with Isla spitting it and me meeting Natalie. She agreed and said that made sense/ She asked what I wanted. I said I wanted to be able to really care for one or two people but also be able to see other people as we all wanted, like she does.

She asked me about Natalie and if I had kissed her and I said a little. She asked if I had fucked her and I said no. Did I want to? yes. What was holding me back. Loyalty to Isla. Then she said what if you just let that go of the relationship for a little bit and see if Isla comes back. Maybe Isla wants to move on too. That shocked me as it hadn't occured to me but maybe that's true.

Maybe Isla isn't being uncaring, maybe she is looking for a way for us to go in different directions.

I was quiet for a little bit. So she started talking and she explained that it's not always easy for people to say verbally what they want but often they say it through their actions.

Ok got to go

[elina]

Hm,

Most of what your Mentor said makes sense.
Although, we don't know to what extent She was relaying what Isla had told Her and to what extent She is sharing Her own thoughts.

What doesn't quite make sense to me is Isla's reaction when She learned that you had an intimate (even if you did not fuck) meeting with Peter's Wife. If Isla was looking for a way out of Her relatiosnhip with you, why did She have the kind of reaction She did?

Or maybe your Mentor is correct that Isla is self-absorbed and wants things to be Her way. If She was still undecided whether She wants to stay with you or move on, then She may have interpreted what happened between you and Mrs P as something that leaves Her out of control......?

Just my reflections.

Sounds to me you are doing a good job of listening, exploring, and trying to understand. That is probably wise. Although if I were you, I would definitely go back to Mrs P and tell Her that you would love to meet with Her. Make an effort to make love to Her in a way She appreciates and then relay the conversation with the young sweet thing you met in the dress-shop.

By the way, this seems very British!
I admire the British for their style.
Enjoy life.

Sincerely
elina

[newcucktoo]

So Isla is still not communicating with me but Mrs P said everything is under control and suggested I have lunch with her and Natalie.

I guess it's handy when you're meeting your boss' wife for long lunches!

So I got to the little restraunt and it was only Mrs P. She was again looking amazing. She kissed me on the lips with a little tounge which was unexpected but good.

We sat down in a corner and she said she would get to the point.

She said that she thought Isla was being immature and rediculous and so Peter had gone to see her and stayed with her last night. She said I might be interested to know Peter fucked her twice last night and again this morning. She said Peter was going to see her again tonight and they have invited another man aswell. Isla was keen she said.

So Isla is going to be with two men tonight and hasn't texted me!

I must say my cock was hard at this point. Lol.

As Mrs P was talking I was also thinking about what Mira said last night about maybe Isla is speaking through her actions. So I was a little distracted when Mrs P was talking.

When the waiter came with the menus Mrs P told him we'll just be having coffees. Which I was a little surprosed about.

Mrs P said that she had a full day and she couldn't stay for lunch. But she said that Natalie was at the hotel across the road in room x and gave me the key.

She said it was up to me, but i could wait to hear from Isla or I could go and fuck Natalie.

She said I didn't have to join their group but Peter was thankful for me sharing Isla so he wanted to share Natalie.

She also said I should be careful with Natalie as she's easy to fall in love with.

She asked what I wanted to do and I took the key and she smiled and said have fun.

So I went to the hotel across the road

[Cuckcuckgoose1]

Damn newcuckto. You're getting more pussy than Isla is getting dick.

[ShyBiGuy954]

She asked what I wanted to do and I took the key and she smiled and said have fun.

So I went to the hotel across the road