"I never want you to fuck me again"

[sconesy73]

It's twisted because the "joy" is the intentionally doing something one knows ought not to be done: men should be dominant and women submissive. The cuckold fantasy knowingly and intentionally flips it. It's only allure is that you're not supposed to.


Contrast that with dominant men who share their submissive wives or girlfriends with other dominant men (beta to you and entirely hetero) and in turn play the bull to other submissive wives and girlfriends (not necessarily the same). You're the alpha of your wife or girlfriend and the beta male to your other female girlfriends and playmates. Outside men (bulls) are always beta to the alpha husband or boyfriend of the woman in question.

Men are always dominant and women are always submissive. It's a good order that works, and it finds the same and better joys, in part because you're not intentionally breaking any rules (in hiding or rebellion).

Male bisexuality and homosexuality are other intentional norm breaking fetishes, and it's interesting if not also tragic to see that closely related with the submissive cucks and their domme hotwives. The whole thing is just tragic and unfortunate. And also unnecessary.

"Hello, this is the 1950s calling, we need your opinions back here. "

[SensualDeviant]

I prefer the stereotypical gender roles of the 1940s or 1950s. There's no shame in that whatsoever. It's a preference.

[sconesy73]

I prefer the stereotypical gender roles of the 1940s or 1950s. There's no shame in that whatsoever. It's a preference.

Yet you criticise people for having a different preference and that presumably they should feel shame for not sharing the same outdated views as you.

This is the "cuckold" section of the forum, if you don't like what that means, feel free to leave rather than express your unasked for and unwanted opinion.

I've not noticed the "bigot" section but I'm sure you'll fit in perfectly.

[venus-can99]

I prefer the stereotypical gender roles of the 1940s or 1950s. There's no shame in that whatsoever. It's a preference.

Based on your signature you are ok making your wife “service” other men and you are good with breaking sacred vows of your marriage. At a time when men and women are considered equal partners your values seem outdated….

[mr_slapdash]

I prefer the stereotypical gender roles of the 1940s or 1950s. There's no shame in that whatsoever. It's a preference.

Yes, great, congratulations. Let other people have their own way of doing things, thank you very much. You don't have to come into here in our space and condemn our kinks, after all your kinks would also be condemned by the vast majority of people. Do you have any clue how many people would call you a beta cuck because you let your wife be fucked by other men? Sheesh. Now go away.

[wannabecUKold]

I prefer the stereotypical gender roles of the 1940s or 1950s. There's no shame in that whatsoever. It's a preference.

For my part, I don't mind you expressing that preference for yourself. I don't think it is bigoted to express the preference.
But the stereotype of that era missed out on great sex. And caused frustration, and often misery, to those who wanted deviant sex.
Straight monogamy has a lot going for it socially. But today we demand freedom to get the sex we enjoy. I don't think men should have to conform to a macho stereotype. I do urge you to get out there and try the deviant stuff you reject.

Mr Slapdash deserves an apology for us hijacking his thread.

[Caribwaters]

I prefer the stereotypical gender roles of the 1940s or 1950

Mr Slapdash deserves an apology for us hijacking his thread.

Slapdash jumped in one this hijacked conversation topic, so I think he is good.

There was a lot of "deviant" sex going on behind closed doors in the 1940-50s and long before. Those activities were just not talked about, because anonymous communication systems like the intranet was not available. Social mores of that era made folks very reluctant to reveal their intimate feelings publicly, but all the different sexual tendencies discussed on this and other similar websites were being fantasized or actually practiced, since recorded history.

[Bluetoed]

men should be dominant and women submissive.

My wife and I lived by this standard for around 15 years, because we were both raised in conservative evangelical homes and were taught that the wife is supposed to submit to their husband.

Eventually we realized that she is naturally dominant in most of the aspects of our marriage, and I am naturally submissive in many of those same aspects. Once we figured that out and let our marriage reflect our natural strengths, our marriage flourished. We had no idea what we had been missing for 15 years trying to do it the way we were taught and raised. We will never go back to what we were taught and raised, because despite it working for some, maybe even most, it didn't work for us.

And I'm not talking specifically about sex. I'm talking about all aspects of out marriage. There are some aspects where I am naturally the dominant and she is more than willing to submit in those aspects. Honestly, I think all marriages would benefit if the spouses would one by one on every aspect figure out who is best to be the dominant in that specific aspect.

But if you using a black and white blanket rule for all aspects works for you and your wife, then go for it. That's what works for you. But when you share your negative opinion about those who prefer it to be different, you're attacking.

[sconesy73]

men should be dominant and women submissive.

My wife and I lived by this standard for around 15 years, because we were both raised in conservative evangelical homes and were taught that the wife is supposed to submit to their husband.

Eventually we realized that she is naturally dominant in most of the aspects of our marriage, and I am naturally submissive in many of those same aspects. Once we figured that out and let our marriage reflect our natural strengths, our marriage flourished. We had no idea what we had been missing for 15 years trying to do it the way we were taught and raised. We will never go back to what we were taught and raised, because despite it working for some, maybe even most, it didn't work for us.

And I'm not talking specifically about sex. I'm talking about all aspects of out marriage. There are some aspects where I am naturally the dominant and she is more than willing to submit in those aspects. Honestly, I think all marriages would benefit if the spouses would one by one on every aspect figure out who is best to be the dominant in that specific aspect.

But if you using a black and white blanket rule for all aspects works for you and your wife, then go for it. That's what works for you. But when you share your negative opinion about those who prefer it to be different, you're attacking.

Excellent post Pretty much how my relationship with S works. We've been together nearly 35 years and good communication and a willingness to compromise are the main reasons for that.

On a separate note, your wife is gorgeous

[mr_slapdash]

It's always surprising to be how judgemental, almost puritanical, some people can be in the kink community. "My way of doing this kink is the only right way to do this kink, and your way is terrible and you should be judged harshly for it." Rather than accepting that my kink isn't your kink, and that's ok. It's amazing how often I've run across this in my time in the community. Just look at SensualDeviant's word vomit:

"It's twisted because the "joy" is the intentionally doing something one knows ought not to be done: men should be dominant and women submissive. The cuckold fantasy knowingly and intentionally flips it. It's only allure is that you're not supposed to. Contrast that with dominant men who share their submissive wives or girlfriends with other dominant men (beta to you and entirely hetero) and in turn play the bull to other submissive wives and girlfriends (not necessarily the same). You're the alpha of your wife or girlfriend and the beta male to your other female girlfriends and playmates. The women are omega. Outside men (bulls) are always beta to the alpha husband or boyfriend of the woman in question. There's no LGBTQ of any kind except limited female bisexuality."

Almost every single man outside of the swinger community would call SensualDeviant a beta cuck for allowing his wife to be fucked by other men. Hell, a huge percentage of guys INSIDE the swinger community would call SensualDeviant a beta cuck because they only allow their wives to be with other women, the proverbial unicorn hunters. Yet SensualDeviant has to hold himself as superior somehow, coming in and telling us that we are lesser than him because we dare to do things differently than him.

And he's not even the first one on this thread! Earlier Barti came in complaining how sad it was that no one was as good of a cuckold as him because of all of the men that his wife fucked and how he hasn't come near her pussy in goodness knows how long.

It's utterly ridiculous. I come to this forum for support, to share and read stories about what really goes on in our lives. And to have to wade through these two people's ridiculous responses is just crazypants. At least Barti has had the good sense to abandon this forum. As for SensualDeviant, go quietly back to the Hotwife forum please, and let us have our own space without you coming and shitting on our real-life experiences.

[Dream Weaver]

It's always surprising to be how judgemental, almost puritanical, some people can be in the kink community. "My way of doing this kink is the only right way to do this kink, ...

100% agree. Lots of gatekeeping. But even I do it sometimes, but people did get a little insulting towards you.

To your (more) original point... I also "prefer" traditional roles, happen to think there's some biology behind it (the population is literally dying off doing it the "new way", virginity is at all time highs, so it won't last particularly long anyway), and I think by going "against" it you get the extra zing that makes the kink worthwhile.

[fitz_f]

Sorry you’ve been getting stick from a couple of posters. I’ve really been enjoying your thread and I’m sure I speak for plenty of others.

[Long Lurker 34]

men should be dominant and women submissive.

My wife and I lived by this standard for around 15 years, because we were both raised in conservative evangelical homes and were taught that the wife is supposed to submit to their husband.

Eventually we realized that she is naturally dominant in most of the aspects of our marriage, and I am naturally submissive in many of those same aspects. Once we figured that out and let our marriage reflect our natural strengths, our marriage flourished. We had no idea what we had been missing for 15 years trying to do it the way we were taught and raised. We will never go back to what we were taught and raised, because despite it working for some, maybe even most, it didn't work for us.

And I'm not talking specifically about sex. I'm talking about all aspects of out marriage. There are some aspects where I am naturally the dominant and she is more than willing to submit in those aspects. Honestly, I think all marriages would benefit if the spouses would one by one on every aspect figure out who is best to be the dominant in that specific aspect.

But if you using a black and white blanket rule for all aspects works for you and your wife, then go for it. That's what works for you. But when you share your negative opinion about those who prefer it to be different, you're attacking.

BT
- Right on!