Reignite the Flame

[Tryn]

That’s some seriously hot news! I hope between you and NYCBullforhw, there will be lots and lots of details! Fingers crossed for photos!

[vb23456]

Congratulations! This has what you have wanted so long. Seems like a lot for a first time. Does she know that you knew him beforehand? Are you okay with the no condom? Did he take any pics/video?

[Wifesharing]

I don’t yet have many details. She came home early this morning and was exhausted and passed right out. I didn’t get to do any reclaiming. When I left for work meetings, she was still fast asleep. I only gathered a few facts from a brief conversation at lunch.

NYCbullforhw was nothing short of “amazing”. She said she “never knew it could be like that”. I asked if she meant that he had a huge cock and she said yes, he’s huge, both thick and long, but it was a lot more than that. He knew how to touch her. When to touch her and where. She felt like he was controlling her body, guiding it to achieve ultimate pleasure and eventual leg shaking orgasm. She couldn’t believe that she could be so in synch with someone she had just met.

After her first mind-blowing orgasm, he held back his own orgasm and made her cum several more times before he finally did. I don’t know how he could do that because I know how sexy she is when she cums. He didn’t wear a condom and came inside her.

He fucked her in several positions. He’s so much bigger than me that it just made him better at positions like doing it from behind. She confessed that she and I have never had a sex session that lasted so long.

She admitted to having an immediate emotional attachment and connection.

They napped a little afterwards before she woke to leave but she said he looked so sexy asleep in bed that she couldn’t help herself and she got back into the bed and sucked him. He woke and fucked her mouth hard. She admitted that she’s never had an oral experience like that. Yes, she swallowed.



As for me, I am in a daze. It happened so fast. I guess I didn’t expect it was really going to happen. I am feeling totally cucked by NYCbullforhw. He obviously gave her a night that I never have. I’m sure I will have more to share in coming days.

Can't wait to hear the details on what was said to get her to leave to go to another bar and how he seduced her of and yeah ofcourse the sex

[Nfhw]

I second your suggestion!!

I wish to learn from a Master Class!

[BallSpanking]

Does she want to be with him again before returning to the W Coast?
Nothing like Friday night in NYC!
What would you say if she asked you?
Might she stay another day or two and catch up with you back home mid-week?

[armyguyot1]

Welcome to the forum danevans309.

[SweDic]

Congratulations QuietHope!

IT sounds like you had a blast

[hornedhubby]

Congratulations.

I always worry about setup situations where the wife doesn't know that the stud is waiting in ambush.

But it sounds like you picked the right guy, and he showed her one hell of a good time.

Enjoy the aftermath. Maybe he'll fuck her again before you head home and let you watch this time?

[QuietHope]

Been a few days now and I feel like a sense of normalcy has returned. I’ve also finally had time to speak with S, breathe and sit down and write to you all.

No, she didn’t have a second night with NYCbullforhw. I had work that Friday and she had plans with friends etc. We met briefly at lunch on Friday and I got the lowdown I shared with you all but she was sort of in a daze at that point and was just answering my many questions. When I tried to squeeze and kiss her and tell her I loved her, I didn’t feel a lot of warmth back but that didn’t panic me-its typical of her when she hasn’t slept and is a little hung over.

We left NYC for the coast of Maine early Saturday and we met with family and friends. We were busy and didn’t really have any alone time. What happened is all I could think about but I could tell she was avoiding the conversation. So we both kind of just pretended like nothing happened.

But today we were able to get some down time on the beach. We were just relaxing and I was patient and let her bring it up. She told me that the conversation on Friday was almost as surreal for her as the event. Telling me those things was very weird for her, almost weirder than doing them.

She told me that she wasn’t sure if she wanted to do it again. She kept thinking about him. The sex but also the things they talked about. She thinks this is a very dangerous path. They apparently agreed, with no suggestion from me, not to share contact details. They both agreed they felt a connection that could be dangerous.

Sorry, I know you want to hear about the sex and the night.

When they left the bar, they were supposedly going to another bar but they were making out in the street before they even got into a taxi and when he suggested they just go back to his place, she agreed. In the cab, his hands were under her dress immediately and before the cab reached his place, he had her panties in his pocket.

He lives in an upscale place, no surprise, with magnificent city views. He offered her a drink but she just took water. She felt surprisingly calm. Not nervous at all. She was really excited about him. He has a way about him. They clicked and it calmed her and just made her want him and she felt assured that he wanted her, too.

They started kissing again while admiring the view outside and then he led her to the bedroom. They were making out on the bed and getting undressed but she said they were both relaxed enough to stop for a moment, strip and jump under the covers together, naked. She said they were laughing and it was fun.

He had a dim light on and she was excited to explore his body. He was on her left side and kissing her when his fingers first went inside her. He took his time, lots of touching outside before slipping a finger in. He had a lubricant bedside which he used, too. She felt his erection against her bare hip and it was “electric”. He took her nipples into her mouth back and forth as his fingers did their magic. Just from that, she had a small orgasm.

He seemed pleased with her then and then he got on top. He asked if it was OK bare and she said yes. He lubricated himself. She wasn’t very clear on exact sizing. Definitely thicker than me but she thinks her fingers could stretch around it. Length was several inches longer than me so I’m guessing he’s at least 8 inches. It was absolutely obvious that he was bigger when he got into her. It filled her up.

He went very slow at first. Almost not moving, just kissing her and touching her. Then he moved in and out and began to really fuck her. She came again and he smiled. Told her to turn over.

He did it from behind and he got more aggressive. Hands on her hips. Pulling and pushing her back and forth. She said it pleased her to hear his own moans and knowing she pleased him. She came again, but still he hadn’t.

She then took over. Told him to get on his back. She got on top and rode him.It took a while, they would go slow and speed up and then back off. They talked some. He kept telling her how hot she was, how sexy. His hands explored her breasts and hips and belly. His thumb on her outer labia. When she came, he did too. Her fingers dug into his chest and she leaned in and kissed him hard.

After she came and she was breathing heavy on top of him, kissing him, she said she loved him.

She said it just slipped out, that it was something she’s just used to saying after sex with me, and she immediately pulled back and looked at him embarrassed but he just smiled and said it was OK. He said understood she didn’t mean it.

She lay in his arms then and fell asleep. They slept a couple of hours and she woke and got up to use the bathroom. She looked at the time and decided to go home and went to the bedroom where he was asleep and her clothes were. The sheets were off his nude body and she thought he looked incredibly sexy. She also felt thankful to him. She remembered how I like to get woken up on occasion so she got back into bed and took his dirty cock into her mouth.

He woke up and didn’t miss a beat. Started cooing what a dirty girl she was. He lay back and got his hands on her head and began to really fuck her mouth. She said he said the dirtiest things to her and she loved it. She’s never had a cock so deep into her throat. When he came, he held her head tight and she swallowed.

She told him she needed to go. That's when they decided to not trade contact details. She told him it was amazing and then she went back to the hotel where I, much to my own surprise, had fallen asleep.

So of course, I’m in touch with NYCbullforhw and could arrange another meet up. We’ve already discussed ways this could happen without raising suspicion but it's unlikely anything will happen again anytime soon.

So she’s talking like it was this amazing experience but I haven’t heard anything about doing anything again with anyone else. She seems cautious because of the emotional connection she obviously felt with him. I admit that I’m a little worried about that, too.

When I’ve since communicated with NYCbullforhw, I very much feel like a cuck but when I’m with S, I oddly don’t. She seems to want to compartmentalize what happened so everything feels very normal day to day. It's still early, let's see what develops.

[BallSpanking]

Thank you for an update on Sophia's first HW experience.
Like you said, it is still early on, in a couple of weeks she may admit to thinking about him.
I hope they left a communication channel open so they can meet again.

[FNQLivin]

So she does not know this was setup?

[myoralannie]

Karl, did u get much, if any detail on Sophia’s first full hotwife experience from her lover(nyc)? If so, did he mention any additional insight?

I think it is natural for women to feel that connection after another man has been inside them and came in them. Sophia is lovely and her concern that she might like this, or her lover too much is sweet.

Once she comes to terms with her experience and your awesome response, she may dip her toes in again.

[BallSpanking]

She told me that she wasn’t sure if she wanted to do it again. She kept thinking about him. The sex but also the things they talked about. She thinks this is a very dangerous path. They apparently agreed, with no suggestion from me, not to share contact details. They both agreed they felt a connection that could be dangerous.

... Powerful emotions, both enticing and disturbing.
There was an undeniably strong connection between them.
In the ideal world they would both have the opportunity to know and explore each other at length.
But for Sophia, she would learn so much, it might be transformative.
It would be interesting to know Sophia's disposition toward being a HW, now she's had a few days to assimilate the experience.

[vb23456]

Update!

[BallSpanking]

Update!

I must say, that I concur with the sentiment ..., but also know HotWifing can be an overwhelming condition, for the husband, the wife, or all involved.
The lack of communication, or 'radio-silence' from the OP can be frustrating or worrisome, but couples (and husbands) assimilate and process these events at their own rate. We can only hope Sophia is coming around to a deeper understanding of, and yearning for, the HW experience, and that Karl won't fumble the ball, now that he has a serious hottie on his hands.

As I see it, there are two main questions. A- Will Sophia continue to explore life as a HotWife, or will she scurry back to the safety of a vanilla marriage, and hope to suppress her memories of bliss?

And, B- How will Karl deal with her decision, one way or the other? Did the degree of her involvement with NYCbullforHW's freak him out? Or will he come back around to encouraging her to continue?

Anyway, I think I'll stop checking now.

[leggysman]

I can imagine that meanwhile, many of the Wannabes here are trying to figure out ways to take their wives on trips to NYC

[Nfhw]

Pure conjecture and speculation.

Sophia had an unusually strong attraction for knowing the Bull for only such a short time. How many first time extramarital trists has the wife giving her panties to the suitor within minutes of leaving a bar?

This Bull was clearly exceptional. Possibly the key to guessing what happened was this comment by the OP that he told the Bull: “She would never consent to meeting a Bull, he was on his own and would have to seduce her”. Apparently he rose to the challenge and then some. Maybe he did a deep dive with the OP to learn everything necessary to snag her heart!

This made me recall a statement by a brother-in-law: “I’ve never met a Con-Man that I didn't like!”. They're MO is to become the person you'll like and trust. Maybe something like that happened here.

Clearly some men have the ability to quickly romance woman after woman. Is the notion of Casanova merely a ConMan specializing in attracting women?

I once had a roommate that was short, had an obnoxious Boston accent, wore a red wig, a face covered in freckles and yet was always bringing a new cute gal home. In one instance I witnessed him meeting a gal at a nearby Safeway and walking her to our house and having her sleep over!

Sophia commented at least twice about the unusual communication connection. Just what was discussed that was so transformative? Was it sexual or about other things? Obviously it was deeply felt? This would be helpful to know more.

Could it be that OP provided a detailed insight into Sophia's psychological makeup. Such as: what kind of guy she is attracted to, her political persuasion, romantic interests, how she likes her sex, and her fantasies to fully prep the Bull for an incredibly effective seduction.

Bulls are notorious for morphing into the best guy possible for maximizing the pleasure of the conquest/hotwife.

She was still feeling a strong bond days later. But with an unusual focus on their conversations more so than the excellent sex. Was that because of his great orator skills or of his uncanny ability to pull her heart strings?

“Knew where to touch me to accentuate my pleasure”. Could that only have happened unless the Bull had been informed of just what they were?

Apparently no one has ever affected Sophie so strongly before. Did the mental replay of those conversations spark a bit of concern that things may not be as she felt?

Her mention of sex lube being on the bedside might be relevant. Was it a sign of an active Casanova that she hadn't quite integrated yet?

Did she later start noticing that maybe everything was just a little too perfect? Possibly she asked OP if he had talked with him sometime she wasn't aware?

OP revealed Sophia was less affectionate with him afterwards. Maybe it was more about him being held to a new lover comparison than being hung over?

It is likely the OP was noticing that Sophia’s unusually strong emotional bond to her lover wasn't diminishing. Possibly that was beginning to generate feelings within the OP that he might actually lose her. So he fested-up to the setup to dampen her enthusiasm for her lover. By making it clear to her that he was a Bull and wasn't what she felt or assumed and therefore wasn't one to fall in love with.

Once she was told or suspected that she had been set up, she likely became enraged at OP? And feeling humiliated for being so badly duped and used by both of them even though she clearly enjoyed herself.

The OP may still be cramped up living in the doghouse? He may have a lot of ground to work to recover.

Hopefully he will appear soon to enlighten us to all of the minute details that occurred. Lessons abound.

This has got to be one of the more interesting and unique HW experiences in recent memory.

One thing is for sure. When you are married to a beautiful, sexy and intelligent woman like Sophie, you shouldn't do anything to risk losing her over just making a fantasy a reality.

[vb23456]

Very insightful! I do believe the bull also developed very strong ties to Sophia

[Nfhw]

Yes, that could be. But remember that this is a man that has bedded dozens of attractive women. Maybe hundreds of them. And he enjoys it enough that he advertises his affection to the world of hungry hotwives.

We don't know who initially voiced that further contact could be dangerous. If it was Sophie, it could have been easy just for the Bull to agree. After all they live 3000 miles apart and he no doubt has had many such highly charged couplings.

After the event, the Bull posted that the OP was a perfect Cuck. It doesn't seem clear what that meant. Possibly he was referring to the OP’s unusually elaborate staging of the whole thing for his wife’s pleasure. If so, would that be consistent with a man wanting to fall in with his wife or feeling a desire to now give up his fulfilling Bull lifestyle?

In spite of his multiple non-Adonis traits, the one thing that my Casanova roommate had that was Honey to the cute girls was humor. He could make anyone laugh and do so continuously. Humor is amazingly seductive. And this Bull had Sophia laughing a lot!

So my guess is that he wasn't nearly so
overcome with a desire for a permanent connection. However, Sophia might have been having feelings that were causing some reevaluation of her life.

[BallSpanking]

What you speculate could be the case, or completely unrelated to the actual events.
That is the thing with the current state of this thread. What used to be a pleasurable read on this post,
has become tedious as the OP yanks everyone's chain by ignoring his thread ...
There is a limit to how often a reader will return to a neglected thread. No reason given, no response ...
Eventually it all goes limp and goes away.
(Maybe that is what the OP wants, except his wife is such a babe ...)

[Cuckcuckgoose1]

It's only been 1 week since he posted. Not like KyDa who has vanished since March. Give him some time.

[Nfhw]

What you speculate could be the case, or completely unrelated to the actual events.
That is the thing with the current state of this thread. What used to be a pleasurable read on this post,
has become tedious as the OP yanks everyone's chain by ignoring his thread ...
There is a limit to how often a reader will return to a neglected thread. No reason given, no response ...
Eventually it all goes limp and goes away.
(Maybe that is what the OP wants, except his wife is such a babe ...)

I agree completely.

However, I wish that I'm wrong. I too so enjoyed following her adventures. I would really like to hear much more details. Like what was really said at the bar, how the panty removal happened, what the special touching was about, and what the unusual, better than sex, conversation was all about. (and if more imaginative sexual texting with Arron has occurred)

But the lack of an excited Cuck wanting to share the improvements in his relationship isn't a good sign! We may never learn more.

[BallSpanking]

The dumb thing is that we are all rooting for him.
We are in agreement that his wife is sexy and would greatly benefit from the HW experience (as we have seen already).
Sometimes a lack of progress or a lack of clarity within the marriage can lead an OP to unattended his thread.
Sometimes they are embarrassed to report a lack of progress, or even an end to HW activities, not wanting to appear defeated.
Sometimes the wife's world is rocked by the experience, and it portends changes in the marriage as yet undefined.
There are any number of explanations, but without the OP's input, we will never know.
It's too bad. We are all on his side, and sympathetic, but sustaining that interest/support based on zero info, is not doable.

[QuietHope]

Hello all.

First, no need to read anything into the lack of posts. After our NYC adventure, we went to coastal Maine for vacation and I tried to stay offline as much as possible, although I do admit to checking in here at OHW.

I would be pleased if NYCbullforhw wanted to comment himself but I also respect his privacy. He did give me permission to make the posts that I did. He seems to be quite a busy person, a business leader I think.

No, she has no idea that this was set up. I'm still fearful of her discovering it despite the success of the event.

The no condom thing? I don't know what to say. Even two weeks later, the idea of his cum in her still charges me up. I don't think about the risks of it when I go down on her. I'm lusting for her like I did 20 years ago.

At the bar, he did make her laugh a lot. Complimented her. I think she also liked his boldness, especially with me sitting right there. He was forward without seeming aggressive or pushy. They did seem to just hit it off immediately, a natural attraction. Maybe that's just how the great ones like NYVbullforHW roll. I didn't give him a lot of info before hand which might be good, he seemed to show a genuine interest in her. When he suggested the next bar, he made it seem just like a fun place to show the tourists in town.

I'm OK with them getting together again but they actually didn't share contact details. However, I'm in touch with him and we have of ways to re-connecting. Yes, i would love if they had another outing. I'm totally on board with her doing this again.

The big disappointment for you all is that we haven't talked about it again. I'm taking her lead here. She seems to want to compartmentalize that night and not discuss it with me. When we talked about it, it wasn't a happy excited conversation but more of a strained, "let me tell you the facts" serious conversation. The good news is that while on vacation, after a couple of days, things actually felt really good. Our bedroom faced the ocean and east so we would awaken to the sound of waves and the sunrise and we would make love, or play and then cuddle.

Will it happen again? I don't know. I suspect yes. Almost like its a part of her she wants to deny.

[BallSpanking]

Thanks for your response, Quiet Hope.
It is good to know the state of things with Sophia and you, even if they are in a flux.
Your wife's compartmentalization seems a natural defense mechanism to shield herself, and you, from unveiling her emotional consequences to the event. It will be difficult to engage her this way until/if she feels ready to.

So you are right, you will have to take the lead, very gently.
As a suggestion, if you are unable to engage her in a meaningful conversation about her adventure ...
Perhaps you could short-cut the process by making her an offer she will have a very hard time refusing.

For instance, how would Sophia react if you offered her a weekend stay in NYC, say, every 3 mos.
Then mention that NYCbullforHW contacted you recently, and would love to see her again ...
(If that is the offer make sure NYCbullforHW can fit her in, or vice versa. )

BTW, I would underscore the loving, tender interaction between you and Sophia afterward, overlooking the ocean, as clear evidence that these adventures strengthens the two of you!

Cheers!