Lisa! Will she?

[sema]

Some developments happened and I have to say it seems that I`m out of controlling the situation. Like Lisa said, it is her thing.

Lisa met with this guy out of the gym without saying anything in advance. She later told me immediately and explained to me that she wanted to try things out without talking too much about it in advance. They just met for a drink after work and nothing more happened. No kissing, no sex. Just a drink or two.
As she told me I was in very mixed feelings. So to say. Very mixed. I was surprised she did it without telling me in advance. We talked about it and I understood what she meant. She made it clear that there will be things she wants to explore for herself and just don`t want to discuss everything. I`m insecure about this and right now I don`t want to be excluded. I was also very interested in what happened and Lisa told me straight that nothing happened, only drinks and talks. I believe her, there is no need not to. She finds him interesting and good to talk with. These things are very important for her, not only good looking. To top it off with all my mixed feelings I was very horny and so was Lisa. We had great sex and afterwards as we were cuddling naked she stroked me and told me that she loved me and I should not to worry about loosing her. This is the short version.
The long version is bout her thinking that she is missing something being together for so long and she made it clear that it is also, but probably most, about the sex with others. I have the impression that she seperates sex and love in this game, which is somehow atypical for her.

The hotgirlfriend part of the situation is that she told him that she is in a relationship and he told her, that he knew. He saw her with me in the gym, although we never spoked to each other or anything.

The big question is if she wants something more from him and I`m too afraid to ask her. I don`t know what I should wish for. Lisa said nothing about it but it is very unlikely that we won't run into him again in the gym.

[Wantsomefunto]

Great post, hope you encourage her to follow her feelings and meet him again soon if she wants. This could be very good for both of you.

[King_Mr]

Just make sure you’re putting your needs first as well. If you want her to communicate things in advance at this early stage, it’s your right for that to happen. This also applies with hearing the full details afterwards. You want to feel like you’re in a team with her on this journey.

[parmaham55]

Hi Sema, these are very hot developments, I am new to this thread and just caught up. You are handling this situation really well, and I encourage you to be encouraging to her, she will also be feeling very nervous. Now is the time to be bold, encouraging, and supportive. Reassure her you love her and always will. And that you're not interested in other women, but you want her to do this and for you to enjoy the journey too.
The gym contact meet up reminds me of w770 early days and his wife's Lana's first steps into this world. I recommend you read the full history of w770 in case you haven't seen it already.

[kaskap79]

Just remember that it shall also be something Lisa does for herself and just for you.

So, you have to give her something, so she feels she is in control. If you do not do so, you risk she either completely stops or she does it behind your back.

Be careful and you both will have a good time.

[sema]

We went to the gym together again. It was yesterday. He wasn't there, at first, and as usual Lisa did her thing and I did mine. After a while I was searching for her and I saw her with him chatting. I didn't see him coming and I decided not to approach them. Later in the changing room, I was just getting dressed, he came up to me. He came directly from the shower and was only wearing a towel around his hips. He started a conversation and asked me if I'm Lisa's boyfriend. He did it in a manner that he knew the answer. There were some guys standing around us and not paing attention. It was silent, so everyone could hear him talking. I answered that I'm Lisa's boyfriend and at that moment he dropped his towel and stood there naked. It was nothing special, because, after all it is a changing room at the gym but the strange part was that he was talking about Lisa, with me, her boyfriend.
He said that she is a nice person and good looking and he thinkgs that I'm a fine guy letting her going out with him. At first I thought he meant the meeting they already had a few days ago. He sensed my confusion and cleared it for everyone to hear in the surrounding area that she probably had told me yet, but they go out to dinner today.
No she hadn't. Fact is, I've not seen her since the time she spoke with him previously.
I didn't feel well in this situation and hurried up to escape. I guess, he liked it. I don't like him, he seems to be arrogant and cocky.

I had to wait outside the gym for Lisa and as she came to me she looked stunning. It is always a pleasure to just look at her and her beauty. Although she just came from the workout, she looked hot in her leggings and tight top.

I confronted her about the date and she confirmed. So they are going for dinner today in the evening. Lisa again told me she loved me and I should not to worry about loosing her. She did this as she sensed that I'm a little bit confused. But I have to confess, after all, I somehow like it.

Right now I'm on needles and have very mised feelings. I know I could ask her to stop, but I guess it is not what she wants.

[sema]

Great post, hope you encourage her to follow her feelings and meet him again soon if she wants. This could be very good for both of you.

I guess, I'n not the one who can decided whether she go or doesn't.

Just make sure you’re putting your needs first as well. If you want her to communicate things in advance at this early stage, it’s your right for that to happen. This also applies with hearing the full details afterwards. You want to feel like you’re in a team with her on this journey.

If I only know that my needs are.
Lisa again said it is her thing and it should (would) not affect our realtionship.

Hi Sema, these are very hot developments, I am new to this thread and just caught up. You are handling this situation really well, and I encourage you to be encouraging to her, she will also be feeling very nervous. Now is the time to be bold, encouraging, and supportive. Reassure her you love her and always will. And that you're not interested in other women, but you want her to do this and for you to enjoy the journey too.
The gym contact meet up reminds me of w770 early days and his wife's Lana's first steps into this world. I recommend you read the full history of w770 in case you haven't seen it already.

I read some of w770 but my guess is that we are kind of different. I would not say that I'm not interested in other women or girls, it is just not going to happen. Lisa made that clear.

Just remember that it shall also be something Lisa does for herself and just for you.

So, you have to give her something, so she feels she is in control. If you do not do so, you risk she either completely stops or she does it behind your back.

Be careful and you both will have a good time.

I don't think that Lisa would cheat on me. I trust her.

[King_Mr]

In all honesty, I still don’t have a good vibe about this situation. Him speaking like that in public just seems very disrespectful at such an early stage of you guys doing this. I think Lisa should be telling you her desires in advance. It feels like you could end up getting hurt.

[BallSpanking]

You had better make up your mind about wanting your wife to fuck other guys, because once she starts, you will have little say over whom she fucks and how she goes about it. If she tells you it is 'her thing', accept that as the clearest answer you are likely to get. It means she is doing her own thing, has it under control, she is enjoying herself ... Relax.

[thinman]

Hi, Sema,

I agree with King - that guy sounds like trouble. Did she have dinner (or more) with him? How are things going? She sounds like a wonderful person and very dedicated to you.

[sema]

The last weeks were filled with mixed feelings, conversation and of course the date, Lisa had with this guy from the gym.

I'll try to form all this into a coherent post. Let's start with the mixed feelings. I read some here on the forum, the answers I got and also the DMs. All of this has formed an opinion. My big concern is loosing Lisa, of course. We have a wonderful realtionship and I can imagine spending the rest of my life with her. We have so much in common and although we make a big change in our individual development with growing up and becoming mature adults (and no children any more) I guess we walk into the same direction. It is not only what we want in life, there are also some small things we totally agree. And to top it off, Lisa is just damn beautiful and a very fun person.
I'm not sure anymore if it's even my decision whether we continue or not. Lisa told me that all I have to do is say I don't want to and she'll stop. But on the other hand, I know that deep down she longs for it. Do I want to take this longing away from the most important person in my life? In a relationship, you sometimes have to do things that you don't want one hundred percent, that's called compromise. It is always a constant give and take.

Maybe this sounds a little bit stronge and pathetic. It's not that I'm against it. I just have cold feet and perhaps I'm not the type to jump straight into the water. What I wrote above has the signature fo Lisa. Those words are in some way hers.

Lisa and I are fine.

Now coming to the date. They had one. I was against it. Not against the date or any date with a random guy, I just didn't like this very guy. I told Lisa about it and she convinced me that I should not put too much into his behaviour towards me. She told me that he is a nice guy and he probably didn't mean it that harsh or arrogant. Lisa said that she wants to get on a date with him because she think he might be interesting. Of course we also spoke about the fact that he talked with me standing naked in front of me displaying his workout body. It was weird, at first, but then of course it fit, Lisa wanted to know how his penis looked. I told her, I've to say a little bit annoyed and angry, that I didn't looked at it. What is true. Lisa was intersted in his penis and really wanted me to describe it. As said, weird.
Another point I was not comfortable was the fact that we might run into him at the gym in the future. How will it turn out? The guys standing around us, all strangers for sure, but heard our conversation and I guess this is not a typical one. So they for sure remember me or us and I don't even remember their faces. What I want to say, when ever I will go to the gym I can't be sure if not the guy besides me is one of them.

Lisa convinced me that I should not to worry and she would go on a date with him. Just a few drinks at a bar.

The date went well, according to Lisa. They had fun and he told her that he met me. Lisa was very reserved about more details and I didn't want to push her. It was again her idea of that it was her thing.

I'm fine with that, really. Maybe at the beginning I wanted to be more involved, but I guess this will come. It is all so new for us and we will see where this will led us. I'm sure Lisa will open up in the future.

What I can say: Nothing happened. They just talked and Lisa told me that he was a gentleman. Something I can hardly understand after my meeting with him and the way he treated me. Maybe he realized that Lisa is a little bit reserved and he is just playing this card. I don't know.
I asked Lisa a few days later if she had expected more from this date and her answer was initially “no, everything was fine”. Later she said that she would probably have been willing to do more if he had been more open about it. She didn't tell me what exactly she meant and I didn't ask her.

There was no second date yet because of not finding the time.

[setv4]

At this point I think that You should have the same options as she has at this point. Why does she feel uncomfortable if you decide to have sex with another lady. What is good for one is good for the other. The fact that she discounted how he treated you in the gym, in front of others was disrespectful.
But that is just my opinion. Good luck with your journey sema.

[allways]

My take is you want your beautiful life partner to have enjoyable sex with other men. But you want it to be more than just her thing and you need to talk about it now before she acts. You must come clean with her about your stag and cuckold needs. You are at a crossroad and so that it goes well for both of you and ensure you are never going to lose her by being passive.

The stag part is yes you want her to be with other men but that means you need to grow a pair of horns and for that to happen she has to include you in the lead up it can't just be her thing.You need to make her understand being included in the lead up is non negotiable. This may mean a temporary pause but she has let pandora out of her box She wants it

During the same conversation make her aware of your strong cuckold desires that includes and hopefully being able to have sloppy seconds.It may at a later time (not now and don't tell her this yet) include enjoying her cream pie before coming up with his scent on you lips as you kiss her while slidding into her cum filled vagina.

You are a very lucky man your safety as a couple is dependent on growing those horns. She loves you negotiate, negotiate negotiate.

[bbarnsworth]

Your relationship dynamic is yours, but what you describe is something I would absolutely not tolerate.

You don't want to be excluded, yet she's excluding you. Further, you don't like this guy. With my wife and I, we both approve before moving forward. There is never a scenario that she likes a guy and wants to fuck him and I say 'I don't like him' and she goes and does it anyway. That, combined with her excluding you, is showing a great deal of disrespect to you.

If I were you, I'd put the brakes on this immediately. This guy and this situation is out of the question. There's plenty of men out there she can play with. It does NOT have to be this guy. Further, the two of you need to figure out your ground rules before taking another step forward.

I see serious disaster coming.

[sema]

I really appreciate your opinions and sharing your concerns about this guy. It's not as if I'm not sceptical too. To put it mildly. But as I've already mentioned, Lisa has made it clear to me that it's her thing and of course she wants to decide who is eligible for her. I am aware that there are many constellations here in the forum where the husband dictates what is possible. That's not where Lisa and I are.
That may sound a bit harsh and it doesn't actually correspond to reality or the situation. I'd been harbouring these thoughts and fantasies for a while and I didn't know exactly what I wanted in detail. They were more like vague fantasies and Lisa is now giving them a direction. It's a direction that she particularly enjoys.
Everything's fine with Lisa, although I'm naturally a little worried that this (whatever the future holds) will negatively impact our relationship. But I see Lisa's boundless desire to try new things, and isn't it part of a relationship to support your partner wherever possible? Lisa has this special desire to taste new penises and I guess also sperm. This is what all her porn watching is about. It is noting that dominates her daily life, but when she is doing so, it is about this topic.

And yes, I don`t like this guy very much but it seems he behaves different when around Lisa and is charming.

[gruenberg]

We don't have to like the guys our wives/girlfriends are seeing. I understand your point of view that it would be easier and it seems that this particular guy didn't respect you. That makes you feel unconfortable, probably.

Like said, we don't have to like them. I've been there. My wife had one or two guys I really didn't like. But what can I say, they are history and I'm still the one who wakes up beside her every day.

[allways]

Bump

[sandy691196]

I really appreciate your opinions and sharing your concerns about this guy. It's not as if I'm not sceptical too. To put it mildly. But as I've already mentioned, Lisa has made it clear to me that it's her thing and of course she wants to decide who is eligible for her. I am aware that there are many constellations here in the forum where the husband dictates what is possible. That's not where Lisa and I are.
That may sound a bit harsh and it doesn't actually correspond to reality or the situation. I'd been harbouring these thoughts and fantasies for a while and I didn't know exactly what I wanted in detail. They were more like vague fantasies and Lisa is now giving them a direction. It's a direction that she particularly enjoys.
Everything's fine with Lisa, although I'm naturally a little worried that this (whatever the future holds) will negatively impact our relationship. But I see Lisa's boundless desire to try new things, and isn't it part of a relationship to support your partner wherever possible? Lisa has this special desire to taste new penises and I guess also sperm. This is what all her porn watching is about. It is noting that dominates her daily life, but when she is doing so, it is about this topic.

And yes, I don`t like this guy very much but it seems he behaves different when around Lisa and is charming.

I get where you are coming from. Your nature and personality.. Her nature and personality.. The power equation in your relationship..

But if you want a happy outcome in this hot gf scene, you need to exercise some control. Right now you are in totally uncharted waters.

This way it can lead to something which will break your heart. Its not about the sex. It's about the other things. I am not liking her line on " it is my thing".. For all you know she already has had sex with the gym guy and has kept it back from you. Her conscience is clear since she feels she has honestly shared her intentions with you .. and the details are her privacy kinda!

If you wanna salvage things.. say that you will cooperate but you need to be a stakeholder.. Remind her about the unevenvess of it all.. she plays you don't.. So you deserve something for yourself.

Show that you are willing to help her by assisting in the teacher liaison. You can offer to take her to the village and help her with all the arrangements that will make it possible for her to bed him. The guy is much safer than any affair she may have in town..like the gym guy.

Suggest that she tells the teacher that she is cheating on you.. so she wouldn't have to tell him that you are a cuck..

What you get out of it? You get her to dump the gym guy and come clean on what has happened till now.

[allways]

Bump

[sema]

It's been a while since I've been here.
I'm a cuckold now.

First of all, I would like to thank you for your feedback. I see your concernces and I've my own too. It is what it is now and although I maybe (I'm still not sure) I would have liked it in another way or with someone else, it is what it is and everything is more or the less fine. Lisa is definitely fine. Very fine.

You may have already guessed, it was that unpleasant, arrogant, cocky guy from the gym who had the pleasue and luck to get lucky with my beuatiful girlfriend. He was the second guy she had something going on.

Let's start at the beginning. I didn't like him but Lisa did and this is the main topic. It seems he is a different person when being with her. Not that I have that much interaction with him to judge and to know him. It was only this brief encounter in the bathroom.

Lisa and he met one evening to go out. For this occasion Lisa dressed up like she always does when going out. She looked amazing and a little bit on the sluttish side. She did this on purpose. I can't describe my feelings as she was away. It was everything you could imagine. There was this uncontrollable restlessness, triggered by sexual arousal but at the same time coupled with this fear. The whole thing was framed by uncertainty and not knowing whether it was a good idea. Speaking of sexual arousal I don't mean sitting at home with an erection, but playing movies within my inner sight what they are doing at that moment. This feelings ever cuckold probably knows.

We had nearly no contact while she was gone. She only texted me when she arrived at the bar they met.
Those endless hours later when I heard the keys at the door I was very relieved. She was back. She came home to me. I'm her boyfriend. She didn't leave me. I know this is stupid, she never made any attempt to leave me, no, she even told me more than once it is pure sexually expanding her limited horizons. But this is what I felt. I was relieved.

She was all smiles, but there was also a certain uncertainty visible in the corners of her mouth. You could see it on the way she bit her lower lip. I immediately walked towards her and she was relieved too as I took her in my arms and kissed her. She was a little bit reserved as I put my lips on her and in this moment, nothing was spoken yet, I realized I was a cuckold. Or stag. Or whatever. I could taste some smell on her lips that was different. Although she was sucking a tictac. The moment she realized I was fine with "it" we kissed a very passionate tongue swirrling kiss and she jumped me by putting her legs around me. This lasted until we were out of breath and seperated.
We moved to the couch and Lisa told me with a face of pure sexual mood some of the events. She made it clear, again, that it was her thing and that she loved me and that she is happy that I waited for her.
What surprised me was that she told me that she only blew him and he came part on her face although she tried to swallow all of his sperm. This was that unfamiliar taste I noticed while kissing her. He put a finger in her and while she told me this she put my hand under her skirt and I noticed her wet panties. I wanted to know more or not, I'm not sure, but the only information I got was that he was indeed not as interesting as it seemed to her and the evening was not that exciting. But Lisa said that at one point at the evening, as she was already getting a little bit bored of all his stories of how a big player in the business world he is, that Lisa came to the conclusion that she has to do something. She said that she thought to herself the only thing she was there was that she wanted to taste some new penis and it was as close to this goal as it could be.
She asked him to move to a nearby park and there she got down on him. She didn't tell me much more details but she liked it. She said it was very interesting to taste someone knew and it was so exciting for her to squat down in public and to taste her first new penis. And sperm, I thought to myself.

This is what I can tell about how it happened. This was a few days ago and we settled into our everyday lives. Lisa is on high spirits, something changed to the good in her. Not that it was bad, before, now it is more of walking on clouds. We don't speak much about it, I don't want to pressure her about more details. I'm not even sure if I have to know them.

And yes, there is a lot of cuddling between us and yes, also sex since this evening.

[leander99]

Congratulations on becoming a real life cuckold, sema

[allways]

Another Bump. I was away on holidays since the 31.07.and just caught up with your first cuckolding experience today. Now that she has tasted the forbidden fruit and your reaction was so supportive she may eventually be more comfortable sharing a bit more with you. Would be nice if from time to time you post. It dosn't have to be just when she scores. Your thoughts and hers is part of the journey.

If you continue gently letting her know that your ok with her exploring eventually you may get a sloppy seconds and or a cream pie.

[diet_dew_86]

Real life experiences aren't like personal fantasies. They can play out differently than you expected. This has been a very interesting path you've been on and I thank you for sharing. I think it will be interesting to see if her curiosity has been satisfied or if she continues keeping her eyes open for other opportunities. It seems shame was the main thing holding her back and now that she has crossed the bridge she may feel that it wasn't that earth shattering. I'd encourage you to make her continue to feel loved.

I have to think when he dropped his towel that he thought he was in possession of something impressive. I can see where that would be awkward going forward. Maybe shift your hours to reduce the likelihood of further interaction.

[path22]

I just read your entire thread today. It's so exciting how your girlfriend has progressed. You shouldn't worry about her leaving you. She's told you many times that she's not looking for love or romance. Let go and help her explore new things. Tell her what you want from all of this openly and explain your limits. I think being so young, you have plenty of time to have fun. Thanks for sharing your story. It's very inspiring!

[David52]

Thanks for sharing. Did Lisa give up on the guy from the gym? Perhaps she could connect with her teacher on social media. She could move things along quickly from there...