GF Made A Move

[TK-421]

(I started writing this up yesterday before my account was verified because my mind was racing thinking about what might happen. It didn’t get verified until my GF was already home. Below is my original post plus what happened last night.)

After lurking this forum for years I finally have a reason to post. We’re not married but tonight my GF may become a hot”wife”.

About a year and a half ago I (late 30s) took the plunge and told her (early 30s) how much I wanted her to be with another man. She’s very experienced and open sexually but has had issues in the past with being on the wrong side of infidelity, so it’s not something she was receptive to.

We talked it out, I explained that I wasn’t trying to cheat, that she should only do anything she wanted, however she wanted things to work is how they would, etc. She said then and has always maintained that it’s something that should stay a fantasy. Because she didn’t seem at all interested I basically dropped it after that discussion minus a few - pretty clumsy - attempts at dirty talk and the occasional comment.

We moved out here to California during Covid and it took some time to meet people. My GF is from the Midwest but looks like a dirty blonde surfer girl and is very friendly so after she joined a pool league, a heavily male environment, our social life started opening up. She plays, I hang out most nights and have some drinks.

One guy in particular became a closer friend. Greg is a light skinned Hispanic guy with dreds around my age, a little taller and skinny. Fun guy to hang out with, always happy to share whatever he’s holding, but a little crazy. Goes hard on the drinking and drugs, gets loud, causes a scene, that kind of guy. Been suspended from the league a couple of times. My GF always defends him and says he has a good heart, which is true.

He’s always clearly had a thing for my GF. Finding excuses to sit close to her, causally touch, try to shock her with sex talk like stories about what he gets up to in Tijuana, constantly walking the line of explicitly flirting. Obviously I have had no issue with it - just smile and keep my mouth shut.

A few weeks ago my starting to become elderly father invited himself to stay at our house with no set end date. We have one now but it’s been very stressful for my GF. We’ve been trying to find ways to get her out of the house / away from him, and she’s subbing in for a different pool team more often. Normally she invites me to come hang out and I thought that was the plan for tonight.

Instead, this morning as she was about to leave for the office, she casually dropped that she was texting with Greg last night and he volunteered to keep her company tonight. I should stay home and watch my dad. Weird, they don’t usually text, and she wasn’t asking my opinion. Then she gave me a very long kiss while she stroked my crotch, then walked right out.

Maybe this is over optimistic, dickful thinking but it was totally, completely different than how she normally acts. I really think she’s planning to do something with Greg tonight. We’ve done our normal texting through the day without mentioning it. It’s been a slooooow day watching the clock, wondering what’s going to happen tonight, and forcing myself to act normally. I’ll post an update once I know.

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Now I know. It wasn’t one the craziest, porn-ified scenarios out of the many I pictured happening, probably wouldn’t be a big deal to people here who are used to this, but holy shit. She kissed Greg a few times and groped him (over the pants) in the bathroom. When she got home and told me she said she didn’t feel comfortable doing more, but it was so much like what she did with me before leaving in the morning that it’s even hotter to me. Although I really would like her to do more, obviously.

She rode me after she opened up about it after getting home - it was incredibly intense. I had been building up all day. She didn’t text me at all while she was out - but one of her teammates that I know did text me that she saw them go into the bathroom together because it seemed weird. She thought my GF might be starting to do drugs with Greg, lol. I almost lost it when I got that text but kept quiet to my GF to give her space.

Both amazed she suddenly decided to start acting on this and hopeful it won’t be another 18-ish months. But if it is it’ll be worth the wait.

[armyguyot1]

Welcome to the forum TK-421. Looks like the start of something fun.

[Whenwillshe]

You might caution her to be more discreet while encouraging her to continue

[Cuckcuckgoose1]

Welcome. Sounds like you are on your way, both of you.

[sana9889]

Happy for you both!

[UKDan]

Incredible experience, and so much more to look forward to and anticipate . Good luck to you both, keeping fingers crossed for you.

[hwc]

Great story so far and cannot wait to hear more - and the more details the better. especially about conversations you have and how you are feeling, for instance, does this make you feel angst or jealousy and have you discussed this with your girlfriend?

Do you think she would like to date him, as in girlfriend boyfriend?

is this something you would like? Obviously, if she likes him enough, and she gets the green-light from you, she will be very happy with you for allowing her that freedom! - Particularly if you don't burden or restrict her with rules...

[TK-421]

Great story so far and cannot wait to hear more - and the more details the better. especially about conversations you have and how you are feeling, for instance, does this make you feel angst or jealousy and have you discussed this with your girlfriend?

Do you think she would like to date him, as in girlfriend boyfriend?

is this something you would like? Obviously, if she likes him enough, and she gets the green-light from you, she will be very happy with you for allowing her that freedom! - Particularly if you don't burden or restrict her with rules...

I don’t know how I’d feel about a girlfriend / boyfriend relationship. We discussed that briefly and I basically told her that whatever she’s interested in trying I’d completely support - which is true - but I don’t think that’s really where her head is at. It does make me a little more nervous.

Nothing else came out of that encounter. It was very exciting for me and she enjoyed it, I think she might have had some regrets about it being so open and someone we see a lot. We’ve incorporated it in some dirty talk since, otherwise she’s been ignoring / downplaying it a bit.

But last night something surprising happened. I’m out of town taking care of some family business. She has a habit of vegging out when I’m gone so I always encourage her to get out and do things. Nothing suggestive or sexual, she’s been dealing with some issues with her own family lately and that’s cut down her sex drive. So we were talking on the phone about what she’s been up to and it’s mostly been scrolling on her phone, and except she mentioned that she’s been commenting on the Tinder subreddit. I joked and told her that she should just download Tinder.

It turns out she already had. She was a little shy about it, said she was just bored and messing around. I definitely encouraged her to mess around some more and actually meet someone. She laughed it off and I went to sleep. When I woke up I had a text from her: “guess I have a date tonight ”

We’re on opposite coasts and she stays up and sleeps late so I haven’t been able to learn more about what she’s set up for tonight, what she’s thinking might happen, nothing. I’m not coming back until Wednesday night and it’s nerve wracking that things might happen while I’m so far away. But I’ve also been rock hard since I saw her text. Fingers crossed.

[hwc]

I don’t know how I’d feel about a girlfriend / boyfriend relationship. We discussed that briefly and I basically told her that whatever she’s interested in trying I’d completely support - which is true - but I don’t think that’s really where her head is at.

Yet.

[zorro]

Sounds like your GF keeps you guessing. Time for better communication, I would offer. She sounds interested in him. But I can't tell for the life of me if she is interested in becoming a hot GF.

[Long Lurker 34]

TK-421
- I can't recall seeing you mentioning how long you and your GF have been together.
- It might be easier for you expressing a situation, and us following along, if you were to 'give' your GF a letter code for her first name and it doesn't have to be the real first letter of her name.

[TK-421]

TK-421
- I can't recall seeing you mentioning how long you and your GF have been together.
- It might be easier for you expressing a situation, and us following along, if you were to 'give' your GF a letter code for her first name and it doesn't have to be the real first letter of her name.

We've been together for a little over five years. I'll call her K.

And I guess I don't have to wonder any more about whether she wants to be a hot GF. We did a video call while she was getting ready for her date. I could tell that she was nervous but definitely excited, and it was incredibly hot for me to watch her doing her makeup and casually chatting. K said that she was just bored and all her friends were busy so she was just trying to have some fun, downplaying that anything serious might happen. I told her that she should have as much "fun" as she wanted.

They met at a karaoke place because K loves it. I was trying to distract myself from texting her constantly with family stuff, but she did let me know that she was there, having some drinks, doing some singing. Nothing for awhile then I see "babe are you sure you're okay if i go to his place"? I send her a strong yes, she sends back a heart, and that's all I hear over two hours. I was going crazy. Finally - finally - she video calls me.

She's already at home. I could see that something was definitely up but I try to play it cool, ask her how she's doing, we're both dancing around the obvious. Then K says that she fucked him. She makes sure I'm okay and then gives some more details. They got to his place "for a drink" but he led her to the couch and we're instantly kissing. It doesn't take long before their clothes are off. K said she felt awkward at first and hesitated before she started stroking him but once she broke that barrier it felt natural. He went down on K until she came - she said it happened super fast - and then he moved her into doggy there on the couch. She had him go get a condom and then he fucked her. Doggy isn't K's favorite position, especially at first, but she everything was so intense that she loved it. They move into missionary. I asked and K confirmed that he made her cum again. After she did he pulled out and she took off the condom and moved him so that she could suck him a bit, then she jerked him off on her tits.

K had a weird look when she told me that. I really like to shoot on her tits so I asked her "oh like I do?". She said "yeah but a lot more than you usually do". I couldn't help it, I'd been jerking off while she was telling me about what happened, and that made me cum instantly. We talked more about how we each felt and she told me about being too shaken up to call or text before she got home.

The flight home yesterday was painfully long. As soon as I got back to the house we were in the bedroom fucking. After we finished up we talked about her seeing this guy again. She really liked the sex and reassured me that she didn't feel anything romantically. He's busy this weekend but it sounds like K's going to see him again next week. I can't wait.

[Very Hot Wife]

Sounds like the start of a great adventure...

[zorro]

Well, the communication has sure improved! Congratulations. You are no longer a wannabe. Do continue to share your experiences. You are among friends here.

[zorro]

And a question for you: Now that she has moved from fantasy to reality, how does it feel? Sometimes the reality feels different from the fantasy. How does the reality compare with what you hoped it would be like?

[PussyFiller]

Wow…! Karaoke can be fun at times. Did she tell him about you? That her BF was encouraging her playing? Keep us posted!

[TK-421]

It feels a little strange sometimes. Things have generally been better than average between us since I got back, we've been communicating well, etc. Yesterday K started to seem a little bit off. She seemed really, really sheepish when she did start to tell me what was bothering her. She was worried about hurting my feelings but she blurted out that it was fun. Really fun. There was a moment where I did feel more jealous than I expected - but it turned us both on.

K kept it very casual with the other guy, she didn't tell him anything about me or being in a relationship. I don't think he'd care either way. She hasn't told me much about him and I haven't pried. She says I can ask her anything about him but I think she likes having us more separate. Maybe that will change after she sees him again.

[Restarting]

Hi TK,
Your story is quite interesting.
A few questions come to mind.

one of her teammates that I know did text me that she saw them go into the bathroom together because it seemed weird. She thought my GF might be starting to do drugs with Greg, lol. I almost lost it when I got that text but kept quiet to my GF to give her space.

Did you eventually tell her about the text?
Absolutely no judgement, but would you have any concern about her doing drugs with Greg?

I don’t know how I’d feel about a girlfriend / boyfriend relationship. We discussed that briefly and I basically told her that whatever she’s interested in trying I’d completely support - which is true - but I don’t think that’s really where her head is at.

Was there a discussion or did you just tell her how you felt?
Have you asked her directly about her thoughts on any possible girlfriend/ boyfriend relationship?

I think she likes having us more separate.

What gives you that impression?


I've made plenty of assumptions over the years about my longstanding wife only to find I was completely off! It happens especially when you think you know your wife 100%

Keep communicating. There's always more to learn about each other. Enjoy the journey together!

[TK-421]

Uhhh, I'm not really sure how things will develop from here but it's possible things have taken a turn.

So K and I have both been busy. She did see the guy again one more time. Not a ton of details but she said it was good. Then we got busy and our schedules changed so we were seeing each other less generally. K takes acting and music classes that end late and she likes to follow it up with karaoke. She's a natural night owl and stays up until 4 any day she can and lately she's been able to a lot, whereas since I'm the opposite right now I've encouraged her to go out and do stuff instead of sitting at home while I'm sleeping.

Yes, I encouraged it because I thought it would give her plenty of opportunities.

One morning I woke up and she wasn't home. I was a little concerned and looked up her location (we both share ours) - she was at a shitty apartment building. She came home about an hour later and I was excited to hear about something good but she said that she was just hanging out with friends and fell asleep. No biggie. But she seemed a little off. And the late nights continued.

Last night she was gone until about 4:30. I couldn't sleep and I admit I was getting curious so I looked. She was at the same building. I texted her to ask if she was coming home, she said she'd be on her way in a minute, she was leaving a hookah place that had just closed. So, yeah, I had to check. There are no hookah places near where she was and any in the area had been closed for hours.

I was too surprised and tired to talk to her about it before she went to sleep. I have no idea how the conversation is going to go. But after she came to bed I found out that I really, really liked the feeling. It was not a good feeling and it's not one I expected to like but I did. Somehow even a lot more than when she told me about the other times.

I'm aware that it's a bad idea but I'm really hoping she lies.

[Long Lurker 34]

Uhhh, I'm not really sure how things will develop from here but it's possible things have taken a turn.

So K and I have both been busy. She did see the guy again one more time. Not a ton of details but she said it was good. Then we got busy and our schedules changed so we were seeing each other less generally. K takes acting and music classes that end late and she likes to follow it up with karaoke. She's a natural night owl and stays up until 4 any day she can and lately she's been able to a lot, whereas since I'm the opposite right now I've encouraged her to go out and do stuff instead of sitting at home while I'm sleeping.

Yes, I encouraged it because I thought it would give her plenty of opportunities.

One morning I woke up and she wasn't home. I was a little concerned and looked up her location (we both share ours) - she was at a shitty apartment building. She came home about an hour later and I was excited to hear about something good but she said that she was just hanging out with friends and fell asleep. No biggie. But she seemed a little off. And the late nights continued.

Last night she was gone until about 4:30. I couldn't sleep and I admit I was getting curious so I looked. She was at the same building. I texted her to ask if she was coming home, she said she'd be on her way in a minute, she was leaving a hookah place that had just closed. So, yeah, I had to check. There are no hookah places near where she was and any in the area had been closed for hours.

I was too surprised and tired to talk to her about it before she went to sleep. I have no idea how the conversation is going to go. But after she came to bed I found out that I really, really liked the feeling. It was not a good feeling and it's not one I expected to like but I did. Somehow even a lot more than when she told me about the other times.

I'm aware that it's a bad idea but I'm really hoping she lies.

TK-421
- In order for "Hotting" to work, clear, open, free and honest communication is a must.

[TK-421]

I don't disagree about the communication. But her doing it without telling me and just leaving it there was still hotter than knowing.

We did talk last night. She kind of admitted to it but she told me that she really wants to see how it feels making it more of a secret.

And then that she really wants to feel stronger emotions for the other person. And go on dates with them. And I felt like I was suddenly way more of a cuck than I expected.

Half of me felt like shit, the other half was harder than I've ever been. We're going with the hard half. After all of that came out I thought we were going to fuck but then she ignored me for hours - in other rooms, no idea what she was doing - and when she came to bed we fucked better than we have in a long time.

Anyway, I guess I should probably move to the cuckold board. Not exactly what I expected at the start but it's great.

[path22]

Wow, your story is different from the others and very interesting. I'd like to know what K really wants to experience. A strong connection with a man, like dating, or exploring different men and creating a small stable. Please keep us informed of the developments.

[TK-421]

It sounded like she wants to start with more of a connection with a single man but she was immediately "joking" about having 10 boyfriends.

The last few days were busy for both of us and there was no space for anything to happen. She has started to back off me sexually - all of this has left me constantly horny and she's ignored me jerking off a few times when she normally loves to join in.

She's out now though. This is one of her normal later nights. She texted me just to say that she'd be out late tonight, usually it's just understood. Then she turned off location sharing on her phone. Fuuuuuuck. This kind of waiting feels very different. But it's fucking hot.

[Jujube]

I agree, this is very hot… Subscribed

[zorro]

I appreciate the relationship with your GF is hot, but I am unsure how long the rush of knowing your partner is having secret relationships with other men will last. There is something ... very secretive ... about her that differs from what many of us HW hubbies prefer. You are essentially being excluded and may be feeling the arousal of exclusion jealousy. Yes, it can be converted into sexual arousal, but it may come back to bite you in the butt. We either play together or very infrequently separately. If solo play, my wife always tells me who she is going to be with before the fact and keeps me in the loop, before and after the liaison. I also get details about what they did and how it felt. That keeps down feelings of betrayal and disconnection.

There is a separate relationship dynamic to keep an eye on: Decoupling. As couples drift apart, they come to live lives that are progressively more separate from each other. If I heard when your GF comes back that she desires and enjoys fucking you with more brio, I wouldn't be as concerned. She sounds, from your description, like she is pulling away.

Or she may just be trying on a more autonomous sex life, all the while searching for the right balance between you and others.

I admit to being unsure how this will play out, but I would recommend buckling your seatbelt. This may become very bumpy.