Want my wife to cuckold me with my best friend.

[ucaneffher]

Hey johnswan, love the progress that you have been making and without much pressure or rushing her. The fact that you incorporated the party fantasy into your sex session might make it more attractive to Lucy. She had an orgasm while talking about her having sex with another man, that's a big deal! You can probably hold off on doing that again for a few sessions but I think that it wouldn't hurt to make this a thing that you two do.

Perhaps have a few normal sex sessions, and then one Saturday morning (or whenever you two are free in the morning) you can tell her that you had a crazy hot dream. When she asks you what it was, just work your magic and initiate a hot session with her first. Once you're steady, she's wet and horny, you're going in and out, start telling her your dream. Obviously your dream will be of her with another man.

Maybe you can choose a scenario that you can easily replicate, such as going out to a bar/dancing. This way afterwards if things end on a sexy note, you can can suggest going out that night with her wearing something very provocative but no obligation to do anything of course.. just baby steps. If you do go out,vmaybe you can go to the bathroom and take a bit longer because there was a "line" do that she has a little exposure on her own.


On a different note. You want your wife to cuckold you with your best friend. For me, I don't have a best friend and instead would love for my partner to find herself a fuck buddy or boyfriend who could eventually become my best friend after he's been having my GF/wife for a while.

For me the thought of finally meeting the man who's been fucking my partner steadily and frequently for the last 6,12, 18 months and hitting it off with hi. and becoming best friends sounds like such an awesome way to meet your best friend lol

I'd love having a best friend who can come over to hang out or help with a project and ends up spending the night fucking my wife. Win win!

[johnswan]

Can you describe you guys? You, your friend, and Lucy?

Finally replying to this request. Sorry it took so long.

Me: 26 yrs old. Height 5' 9", weight about 70 kilos/11 stone/150 lbs. Brown hair. White skin. Slim build. Not very muscular. Fit and healthy. University graduate.
Temperament: calm and considered. Tolerant.
Friendly (but slightly cautious). Neither alpha or beta. Polite.
Sexual likes: cuckolding (obviously!), anything power play, Dom/sub things (prefer being sub).
Have tried some pee play (happy to receive or give). Mild BDSM, such as spanking, bondage.
Average penis size.

Lucy, my wife: 26 yrs old. Height 5' 8", weight about 65 kilos/10 stone+/140+ lbs. Dirty blonde natural hair colour, but frequently died different colours, and grown various lengths, varied styles. White skin. Slim build. Bust 34 or 36 DD or E (depends on which bra size she wears. The bras, vary enormously, whereas I'm sure her boobs stay roughly the same size!). Bum in good proportion to boobs. Fit and healthy. University graduate.
Temperament: Calm, but can get annoyed and stern. Tolerant. Friendly with anyone. Outgoing. Forgiving.
Sexual likes: Very open minded. Likes kissing, cuddling, snogging sessions, lots of foreplay. Cunnilingus. Likes to occasionally be a dom. Likes straight sex, any position. Shaved pussy. Not body shy (happy to go topless, or even naked on a beach, where appropriate). Doesn't mind showing a lot of cleavage, or leg. Mild exhibitionist?

Greg, my best friend: 26 yrs old. Height about 5' 10" or 11". Weight I'm guessing 80 kilos/12.5 stone/175 lbs, but might be a bit more. Brown hair. White. Firm build, slightly muscular. Fit and healthy. Has some fitness equipment at home, but isn't obsessive about using it. Left school at 18 for full time employment.
Temperament: Friendly, outgoing. Loyal. Tough but a softie underneath. Can be romantic. Generally calm, but loses patience quickly if things don't go to plan. Somewhat impulsive. Not much of a 'planner', more of a "let's just do it" person.
Sexual likes: Women. Fucking. I'm not sure about any 'kinks'. He hasn't mentioned anything much. He respects women, isn't abusive of them. How many girlfriends has he had? No idea, but it's lots. From one night stand to about max of 6 months.
Female preference? Not fussy, but she needs to want to fuck. Not big on seduction, usually.
Penis size: bigger than me, significantly. I'll expand on how I know that in another post.

Greg and me have been friends since the age of 12. We trust each other completely. We confide in each other (up to a point). We tease each other verbally, and can take robust banter.

I met Lucy at university, aged 18. I was still a virgin by the time I went. She had 3 previous boyfriends she'd had sex with. She wasn't that impressed with any of them, sex wise. All were "average" in the cock department. Her general comment on previous boyfriends is "they were all only interested in getting in my knickers, or getting my bra off". She never orgasmed with any of them. And hasn't with me, other than by finishing herself with her fingers or a dildo. She can orgasm with me, if she goes on top, and fucks herself on me. Which I don't think counts as me making her cum.

We got married not long after leaving university.

We have our own house. Greg still lives with his parents, but has a big bedroom with double bed. His mum likes that he brings "such nice girls" home. They stay the night, and his mum fusses over them in the morning, cooking breakfast. She almost encourages him to have lots of girlfriends. I'm sure, if he brought two home with him, she would be delighted!

His character, compared to mine: I like to consider a situation, think it through and arrive at the best theoretical solution. For example, when he bought a motorbike, when we were still at school, it was old, and regularly had a problem. My solution: look on the internet, read a service manual, etc, put aside some time and carefully take it apart, taking pics as you go along, to help the reassembly.
His solution: Speak to me, and get me to come and help fix it, while he made coffee, and watched! Or, "Hit the fucking thing with a hammer!" Ok, not quite as unsubtle as that, but you get the idea.

Hope that gives a broader picture of the three of us.

[Long Lurker 34]

Can you describe you guys? You, your friend, and Lucy?

Finally replying to this request. Sorry it took so long.

Me: 26 yrs old. Height 5' 9", weight about 70 kilos/11 stone/150 lbs. Brown hair. White skin. Slim build. Not very muscular. Fit and healthy. University graduate.
Temperament: calm and considered. Tolerant.
Friendly (but slightly cautious). Neither alpha or beta. Polite.
Sexual likes: cuckolding (obviously!), anything power play, Dom/sub things (prefer being sub).
Have tried some pee play (happy to receive or give). Mild BDSM, such as spanking, bondage.
Average penis size.

Lucy, my wife: 26 yrs old. Height 5' 8", weight about 65 kilos/10 stone+/140+ lbs. Dirty blonde natural hair colour, but frequently died different colours, and grown various lengths, varied styles. White skin. Slim build. Bust 34 or 36 DD or E (depends on which bra size she wears. The bras, vary enormously, whereas I'm sure her boobs stay roughly the same size!). Bum in good proportion to boobs. Fit and healthy. University graduate.
Temperament: Calm, but can get annoyed and stern. Tolerant. Friendly with anyone. Outgoing. Forgiving.
Sexual likes: Very open minded. Likes kissing, cuddling, snogging sessions, lots of foreplay. Cunnilingus. Likes to occasionally be a dom. Likes straight sex, any position. Shaved pussy. Not body shy (happy to go topless, or even naked on a beach, where appropriate). Doesn't mind showing a lot of cleavage, or leg. Mild exhibitionist?

Greg, my best friend: 26 yrs old. Height about 5' 10" or 11". Weight I'm guessing 80 kilos/12.5 stone/175 lbs, but might be a bit more. Brown hair. White. Firm build, slightly muscular. Fit and healthy. Has some fitness equipment at home, but isn't obsessive about using it. Left school at 18 for full time employment.
Temperament: Friendly, outgoing. Loyal. Tough but a softie underneath. Can be romantic. Generally calm, but loses patience quickly if things don't go to plan. Somewhat impulsive. Not much of a 'planner', more of a "let's just do it" person.
Sexual likes: Women. Fucking. I'm not sure about any 'kinks'. He hasn't mentioned anything much. He respects women, isn't abusive of them. How many girlfriends has he had? No idea, but it's lots. From one night stand to about max of 6 months.
Female preference? Not fussy, but she needs to want to fuck. Not big on seduction, usually.
Penis size: bigger than me, significantly. I'll expand on how I know that in another post.

Greg and me have been friends since the age of 12. We trust each other completely. We confide in each other (up to a point). We tease each other verbally, and can take robust banter.

I met Lucy at university, aged 18. I was still a virgin by the time I went. She had 3 previous boyfriends she'd had sex with. She wasn't that impressed with any of them, sex wise. All were "average" in the cock department. Her general comment on previous boyfriends is "they were all only interested in getting in my knickers, or getting my bra off". She never orgasmed with any of them. And hasn't with me, other than by finishing herself with her fingers or a dildo. She can orgasm with me, if she goes on top, and fucks herself on me. Which I don't think counts as me making her cum.

We got married not long after leaving university.

We have our own house. Greg still lives with his parents, but has a big bedroom with double bed. His mum likes that he brings "such nice girls" home. They stay the night, and his mum fusses over them in the morning, cooking breakfast. She almost encourages him to have lots of girlfriends. I'm sure, if he brought two home with him, she would be delighted!

His character, compared to mine: I like to consider a situation, think it through and arrive at the best theoretical solution. For example, when he bought a motorbike, when we were still at school, it was old, and regularly had a problem. My solution: look on the internet, read a service manual, etc, put aside some time and carefully take it apart, taking pics as you go along, to help the reassembly.
His solution: Speak to me, and get me to come and help fix it, while he made coffee, and watched! Or, "Hit the fucking thing with a hammer!" Ok, not quite as unsubtle as that, but you get the idea.

Hope that gives a broader picture of the three of us.

JS
- Well that begs the question of has he brought Lucy 'home'?
- Has she done an overnight? Or will she?
- Does his Mother know Lucy or met her before they started bonking?

[Paulypippa]

Really interesting topic...how do you convince your partner to follow your fetish? I wish the Answer was easy!

[armyguyot1]

Welcome to the forum Paulypippa. You will get some recommendation here.

[johnswan]

JS
- Well that begs the question of has he brought Lucy 'home'?
- Has she done an overnight? Or will she?
- Does his Mother know Lucy or met her before they started bonking?

I did introduce Lucy to Greg's mum during a holiday from our time at university. We'd gone to see Greg, before going out to a nearby pub.

Are you thinking that Greg might have met Lucy before I met her at uni? She was very open to telling me about her previous boyfriends, and I'm sure she would have mentioned him, if he'd been one of them.

For some reason you seem to think that he's already been 'bonking' her. He hasn't.

Greg and I lived quite close to each other when we were at school. Lucy went to school quite a distance away. Very unlikely that she would have met anybody from the small town and villages where we lived. When I met her at uni, I knew straight away that she came from our region of the UK, as she had the same regional accent as me.
But her parents house was about 70 miles away from where me and Greg lived.

[wannabecUKold]

Lucy to John: I want to make you squirm, intensely, in front of others.
I want to take you shopping for your own lingerie.
I would like to have you as my slave, for a defined period of time. Might be for an hour or two. Maybe up to 24.
I would like to buy a collar and lead for you, and use it on you, when I want.
Seeing as my pubic hair is shaved, yours should be as well. Maybe including chest hair.
Buy you some very, very tight jeans, or some other type of trousers. Or something equivalent to my yoga pants. And you wear them in public. With no underwear. To show off your package. Or lack of it!

So John, have you begun fulfilling her wish list?

"Seeing as my pubic hair is shaved, yours should be as well. Maybe including chest hair."
That is the obvious place to start. Once you do that she will see you differently, as her cute boy. The conversation will move smoothly (!) to talking about big macho well-endowed blokes. Tell her one night that you are going to do it. Ask her if she wants to do it for you. (Yes, hopefully). Tell her how cute you feel, like when you were 13.

"Buy you some very, very tight jeans, or some other type of trousers. Or something equivalent to my yoga pants. And you wear them in public. With no underwear. To show off your package. Or lack of it!"

Isn't that the give-away to her remark? She wants to see you flaunt yourself as having a small cock. That is how she sees you. Add a hairless cock and you show her you like being her cute boy.
Find the pants. Have you tried her yoga pants? can you get a matching pair?

How about also getting some tight speedos? They would show off your small endowment. And you can tell her about stripping off in the men's changing room at the pool.

"I want to take you shopping for your own lingerie."
Browse the catalogues together, letting her see your erection as she says what she wants you to have. Has to be done after you're shaved.

Show her how much you have bought into her cute image of you. Lucky boy.

[johnswan]

Lucy to John: I want to make you squirm, intensely, in front of others.
I want to take you shopping for your own lingerie.
I would like to have you as my slave, for a defined period of time. Might be for an hour or two. Maybe up to 24.
I would like to buy a collar and lead for you, and use it on you, when I want.
Seeing as my pubic hair is shaved, yours should be as well. Maybe including chest hair.
Buy you some very, very tight jeans, or some other type of trousers. Or something equivalent to my yoga pants. And you wear them in public. With no underwear. To show off your package. Or lack of it!

So John, have you begun fulfilling her wish list?

"Seeing as my pubic hair is shaved, yours should be as well. Maybe including chest hair."
That is the obvious place to start. Once you do that she will see you differently, as her cute boy. The conversation will move smoothly (!) to talking about big macho well-endowed blokes. Tell her one night that you are going to do it. Ask her if she wants to do it for you. (Yes, hopefully). Tell her how cute you feel, like when you were 13.

"Buy you some very, very tight jeans, or some other type of trousers. Or something equivalent to my yoga pants. And you wear them in public. With no underwear. To show off your package. Or lack of it!"

Isn't that the give-away to her remark? She wants to see you flaunt yourself as having a small cock. That is how she sees you. Add a hairless cock and you show her you like being her cute boy.
Find the pants. Have you tried her yoga pants? can you get a matching pair?

How about also getting some tight speedos? They would show off your small endowment. And you can tell her about stripping off in the men's changing room at the pool.

"I want to take you shopping for your own lingerie."
Browse the catalogues together, letting her see your erection as she says what she wants you to have. Has to be done after you're shaved.

Show her how much you have bought into her cute image of you. Lucky boy.

Unfortunately we haven't progressed things much over the last week or so. Life getting in the way.

I've been waiting for a good long free period of time with Lucy, to discuss things further. But we've only really had small periods of time, here and there, that haven't really been convenient. So I've been patient.

Lucy has suggested a shopping trip this coming Saturday, to our nearest large town, where there is a Marks and Spencers (a UK department store that's nationwide, mainly selling women's and men's clothing. Apparently 1 in 3 of all women in the UK buy their knickers (panties in USA) at Marks and Spencers).
Lucy wants some new panties, and we'll look for something for me. She wants to buy me a matching bra and panty set. I'm not at all keen about the bra. That's going to be a test for me, even to put on for a few minutes. But, I have said I will, in my wishlist.
There's also some other specialist lingerie shops in this town, but I'm not keen to go shopping in them. A bit too personal, and the staff might suspect that some of the items are for me. Our panty size wouldn't be drastically different, but bra size would!
We'll go for the day, and have a pub lunch. Maybe after a beer (or two!) I'll feel less nervous.

I'll update when any of the other items have been discussed.

By the way wannabeUKcuckold, you have a naughty, smutty mind! . Hmm, Speedo's....I've never owned something like those. Well, not since school swimming lessons. What do some people call them?.....'Budgie Smugglers'.

[wannabecUKold]

Ha ha
You might also try Liberation in Covent Garden, go with her for some tight latex underwear for you both.

So she has suggested the trip, taking up the baton before you. A golden opportunity to raise the idea of her getting fucked. She will enjoy the thought.

[johnswan]

A bit more progress, I think.

Here are some details of what happened Saturday.

We didn't go to M&S till after we'd had a pub lunch. I needed the help of a bit of alcohol!

Firstly Lucy looked for some bits for her. Nothing that exciting, just work type things.
Then we started looking for me. They have too much choice there.

I liked a particular set, because it was white, it was pretty without being too girlie, and it had a sort of bralette top, that I thought might look better on me than a normal bra (can't believe I'm saying that!).

But Lucy wanted something more colourful, more sexy. So we settled on the one that was a strong pink colour, lacy, with see thru mesh areas. I'd like that on Lucy, but couldn't envisage it on me.

She then went off to try on the things she was interested in, leaving me holding the pink set!
Talk about feel self conscious!

Nobody knew who I was buying it for, but in my mind it had a big sign on it saying "cross dressing pervert".
We didn't get asked if we needed any help, thank god!

We got back home and had a light meal. Then Lucy told me to put the bra and panty set on.
She sat and looked, which makes it more difficult for me. The panties fitted ok. Above the gusset is an area of see thru fabric. Lucy commented that it showed my cock quite nicely.
She watched while I struggled with the bra. In the end she had to help me. She adjusted the straps so that it fitted better. It was a 32A. Even so, the cups of the bra were slightly loose.
When it was all adjusted Lucy made me walk around, like a fashion show. She had me in various poses. I felt very daft. But because my dick was completely soft I don't think I looked too ridiculous.
But Lucy was delighted.

I wanted to at least take the bra off, but Lucy was having none of it. She told me I was keeping it on till bed time! Bras are uncomfortable!

We settled down to watch some TV, but soon got bored. Lucy swung her feet onto my lap, and passed me her foot massage cream. I quite like massaging her feet.

We started talking about things on our wishlists, while I massaged her feet. She said she was keen to shave my pubes and probably my chest hair.
I have been thinking about giving her carte blanche on the shaving. Even thinking about writing something down, giving her complete freedom to shave what she wants, maybe even suggesting that she ties me up to do it, with written instructions to ignore me if I start pleading with her to stop. It's a hot thought, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea.

She did question me about my desire to buy a cock cage. I must admit that this is the thing I'm most undecided about. I just can't see myself being in it for more than just sex play or teasing. But giving her the key would be extremely hot, I think.
She did like that idea. "Then I'd have complete control of your little cock. And stop you playing with yourself!" She found that idea very funny!
I think that a cage might be a good example of "be careful what you wish for"!

On my wishlist was "I want you to go out in public with a very short skirt on (only just below your bum), and/or with a see thru top on, no bra".

This one she wasn't sure about. But I told her that I was doing things on her list, so she ought to do things on mine. But she was mainly worried about going out in public "looking like a slut". Which is the look I was hoping for....but didn't tell her.

We decided that, initially she'd wear things at home, and see just how comfortable/uncomfortable she was with them. I said that, as regards going out in public, maybe we could go to a pub quite a way away, where she wasn't likely to be recognised. We live in a rural community, and lots of people know each other. Gossip spreads quite quickly around here.

Also, she's going to sort out a couple of old skirts, and let me cut them down, a bit at a time, to see what her limit is. Then I can cut a bit more off when she's not around!

The conversation got back on to my desire to see her get chatted up. She asked if this was just a fantasy thing. I told her that it could be just fantasy, or I wouldn't mind if it happened for real.

"Just me getting 'chatted up'?"
Me: "Or more...."
"How much more?"
Me: "As much as you were comfortable with".
She paused for a bit, before asking, "What if 'he' wanted to take it further?"
Me: "It would be entirely up to you".
"And you would be ok with.....whatever happened?"
Me: "Yes".
"Including him fucking me?"
Me: "If you wanted to. Your decision".
Big pause.....

"And you'd be ok with that?"
Me: "I'd be very ok with that. The thought quite excites me. Does it excite you?"

Again, big pause. "I'll have to think about it. Fantasy is one thing. I'm ok with that. But for real?? Hmmm, I'm not sure".

So we left it at that. I didn't want to pressure her. But the idea is out there, for her to think about. And it wasn't rejected.

I was still massaging her feet. I asked her to pull her skirt up. And to put her fingers into her knickers and feel herself.
She started to get herself aroused, and I decided to chance telling her another fantasy. This time I told her she was at a quiet get together, with friends and acquaintances. She's on the sofa, talking to an attractive guy. He offers to massage her feet. She agrees. He has them on his lap. He can see the crotch of her panties. She can see him looking, now and again. She decides to tease him, and moves her knees apart. He is now blatantly stareing at her crotch. She ups the ante, by pulling her skirt up. She slides a finger inside her knickers. She tells him he's not allowed to touch, only look. He agrees. She slowly masturbates herself, while he watches. Eventually she slides her knickers off, and he can see her shaved pussy. She continues to masturbate.

This had the desired effect, and she masturbated herself to completion, while I watched.
I'm hoping that she's getting used to the idea of being sexual in front of another man. Even if only in fantasy, for the moment.

I was still in the bra and panties. When she'd finished she told me to get my cock out and wank myself while she watched.

[joel68]

Progress, for sure! You definitely have planted the seed. Now time will tell if it grows. But all positive responses on her part.

Well done!

[elina]

Thank you John

You are doing wonderful!
Your Wife is doing even better, and that is just the way it should be!!
(Don't you agree?)

Now be a good boy, tell Lucy that She has complete discretion of where to shave you,
and then discuss what cage to buy and allow Her to start locking you up; Short periods of time to start with.

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

[Wantsomefunto]

Great progress, now ask her how she would be comfortable getting chatted up and where to try it!

[wannabecUKold]

She paused for a bit, before asking, "What if 'he' wanted to take it further?"
Me: "It would be entirely up to you".
"And you would be ok with.....whatever happened?"
Me: "Yes".
"Including him fucking me?"
Me: "If you wanted to. Your decision".
Big pause.....

"And you'd be ok with that?"
Me: "I'd be very ok with that. The thought quite excites me. Does it excite you?"

Again, big pause. "I'll have to think about it. Fantasy is one thing. I'm ok with that. But for real?? Hmmm, I'm not sure".

Well, she got to the F-word, by herself. That's a very good sign.

She won't forget the thought at all.
She will want you to return to the subject. Soon.
She wants to do more fantasy, but get her to plan for reality.

You could prepare for the next session (which may be soon).
Work out a script of questions you could ask that will help to take her forward. Best to ask downstairs, not in bed.

You know you are actually going to chat up a guy, don't you?
Shall we plan for it to happen?
How would you go about it?
What's the scenario? [club, party, bar, beach, office]
Who is he? [friend, stranger, masseur]
What does he look like?
What are you wearing?
Where am I? Am I near or far? are you cheating?
How do you feel about doing it? [nervous, confident, aroused, determined]
How do you actually feel now? Are you ready to try it? Can we have a go? Yes I want you to do it. Where shall we go? Got your diary?

What happens first? How do you show your interest?
What do you do first? (drinks, dancing, smooch?)
What physically happens first? [touch, then kiss?]
Then second? what then

Do you stay or move somewhere? Or do you stop there? Can you stop?
Where are you now?

....
Do I know what you're now doing? Are you texting me?
Do you know for sure I am in favour of you doing it? I'm OK with it?
....
What fondling first? What do you let him do first? What's his first present?
Do you undress? What's the first piece of clothing to get removed? Whose?

....
What's his cock like?
How does it feel to be naked again in front of another man?
Do you like him looking at your body?
Do you like the idea of being unfaithful? breaching your marriage vows? is it exciting? Do you want to do that?
Are you worried about doing it?

Will he go all the way first time?
What do you think as his cock enters you?
Do you like the adultery?
...
Does the thought make you want to go further?
Will you text me? Send a pic? Or stay in the moment?
Do you like me being excited that you're doing it?
Do you want me to see you get fucked?
Do you want me to help get you fucked?

[johnswan]

Progress, for sure! You definitely have planted the seed. Now time will tell if it grows. But all positive responses on her part.

Well done!

Thanks Joel. The pace is slow, but steady.

We are both of a general temperament whereby we don't dive in feet first with anything major. My attitude is, if you aren't totally sure, then sleep on it a bit. There's reasons you're not sure. Let those doubts, questions etc form in your mind. Then try to answer them. She tends to have the same attitude.
I'm expecting more questions, but just don't know when.

[johnswan]

Thank you John

You are doing wonderful!
Your Wife is doing even better, and that is just the way it should be!!
(Don't you agree?)

Now be a good boy, tell Lucy that She has complete discretion of where to shave you,
and then discuss what cage to buy and allow Her to start locking you up; Short periods of time to start with.

Sincerely
elina
(Submissive male)

Hi Elina.
"You are doing wonderful". Thank you!

"Your Wife is doing even better, and that is just the way it should be!!
(Don't you agree?)"
I do agree. I'm glad she's taking her time to think things through. If she'd turned around and said "You must be f****** joking!", then I'd have been disappointed. But I didn't really think she'd say that.

Then again, if she'd said "great, let's find a hung man for me", I'd have been real surprised too!

"Now be a good boy". Hmmm, that's what Lucy often says to me....

I'm definitely leaning towards letting her have complete discretion re the shaving. I don't really want to be controlling her, no matter how subtly.
I also think it's hotter for me if I give her free reign. It's that 'giving up control' feeling that is SO exciting.

I think the cage still needs some discussion, for both of us, to understand better how we might use it....apart from the obvious way, that is!

[johnswan]

Great progress, now ask her how she would be comfortable getting chatted up and where to try it!

Thanks mate. I don't think she necessarily needs to actually be 'chatted up'. Although I'd quite like that to happen.
I was just really using that idea as a device to open up discussions.
My first choice of someone to chat her up is my mate Greg.
So I would prefer that someone else doesn't get there first. I wouldn't stop it happening with someone else, of course. It's just not my preference. Having said that, I'd ultimately go with Lucy's preference, assuming she decides it's something she'd like to try.

[Wantsomefunto]

So now you need to find a way to get Greg alone with her to see what happens

[johnswan]

Well, she got to the F-word, by herself. That's a very good sign.

She won't forget the thought at all.
She will want you to return to the subject. Soon.
She wants to do more fantasy, but get her to plan for reality.

Hi wannabecUKold.

That's a long list of things for me to get through!

I might actually delegate you to ask her. It would save me a lot of work!

But seriously, there's lots to think about there.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that down

[Paulypippa]

She paused for a bit, before asking, "What if 'he' wanted to take it further?"
Me: "It would be entirely up to you".
"And you would be ok with.....whatever happened?"
Me: "Yes".
"Including him fucking me?"
Me: "If you wanted to. Your decision".
Big pause.....

"And you'd be ok with that?"
Me: "I'd be very ok with that. The thought quite excites me. Does it excite you?"

Again, big pause. "I'll have to think about it. Fantasy is one thing. I'm ok with that. But for real?? Hmmm, I'm not sure".

Well, she got to the F-word, by herself. That's a very good sign.

She won't forget the thought at all.
She will want you to return to the subject. Soon.
She wants to do more fantasy, but get her to plan for reality.

You could prepare for the next session (which may be soon).
Work out a script of questions you could ask that will help to take her forward. Best to ask downstairs, not in bed.

You know you are actually going to chat up a guy, don't you?
Shall we plan for it to happen?
How would you go about it?
What's the scenario? [club, party, bar, beach, office]
Who is he? [friend, stranger, masseur]
What does he look like?
What are you wearing?
Where am I? Am I near or far? are you cheating?
How do you feel about doing it? [nervous, confident, aroused, determined]
How do you actually feel now? Are you ready to try it? Can we have a go? Yes I want you to do it. Where shall we go? Got your diary?

What happens first? How do you show your interest?
What do you do first? (drinks, dancing, smooch?)
What physically happens first? [touch, then kiss?]
Then second? what then

Do you stay or move somewhere? Or do you stop there? Can you stop?
Where are you now?

....
Do I know what you're now doing? Are you texting me?
Do you know for sure I am in favour of you doing it? I'm OK with it?
....
What fondling first? What do you let him do first? What's his first present?
Do you undress? What's the first piece of clothing to get removed? Whose?

....
What's his cock like?
How does it feel to be naked again in front of another man?
Do you like him looking at your body?
Do you like the idea of being unfaithful? breaching your marriage vows? is it exciting? Do you want to do that?
Are you worried about doing it?

Will he go all the way first time?
What do you think as his cock enters you?
Do you like the adultery?
...
Does the thought make you want to go further?
Will you text me? Send a pic? Or stay in the moment?
Do you like me being excited that you're doing it?
Do you want me to see you get fucked?
Do you want me to help get you fucked?

You must have a headache coming up with scenarios of how to steer the conversation in the direction you want.

The main thing is is if she is a willing participant in the discussion, then you have a chance to grow into what you want.

[johnswan]

This is my account of Lucy shaving me last Saturday.....

I was very nervous about this happening, but was determined to go through with it.
Before Lucy commenced the shaving, I told her that it was only fair that she carried out one of the things on my wishlist. This was for her to wear some very revealing clothes. We went to the bedroom and eventually found an old denim skirt that she doesn't really wear anymore, together with a white blouse that is now a bit thin. I told her to put no knickers or bra on. Then she allowed me to trim a few centimetres off the skirt with scissors. It was already a modestly short skirt. But it didn't make a huge difference, which she agreed. So I cut another couple of centimetres off. Now it was short, but not exceptionally so. She reluctantly allowed me to trim off two more centimetres. But this just made it a short skirt, in my eyes!
She only agreed to another couple of centimetres if she could veto wearing it outdoors. So I immediately chopped off two more. I'll try and persuade her to wear it out somewhere, when she gets a bit more used to it.

While I still had the scissors I decided not to ask her, and just cut off several of the top buttons on the blouse. She would never do up the top two anyway, so I cut off 4.
With the blouse on I could see a lot of cleavage....a lot!

Next we went to the kitchen, with Lucy still dressed in only the blouse and skirt. She looked very sexy, slightly slutty!

I stripped and sat on the chair. Lucy tied my hands behind my back with an old necktie that we use. We agreed not to actually tie me to the chair, because I wasn't going to try to run away!

I'd put my electric hair trimmer and wet razor ready. Lucy pulled up a chair and sat in front of me, deliberately keeping her legs apart so that I could see her pussy. She played with my cock a bit, to get me fully erect.

She was just about to pick up the electric hair trimmer when I told her to look on the kitchen counter for my note to her. This was a note, to tell her that she had complete control to shave whatever and wherever she wanted. I was reasonably sure she wouldn't go too mad. The note also told her to ignore me if I started protesting.
I did this just to ramp up the excitement.

She read it and just said "Are you sure?"
I nodded. I couldn't actually speak out loud!
She sat back in front of me and ran one hand through my chest hair. Then turned the electric trimmer on. It only took maybe two minutes. I don't have a lot of chest hair, just upper chest. Sorry, didn't have!
Then she squirted some shaving foam on me, rubbed it in and commenced with the razor. This took much longer.
When she was happy that she'd finished I looked down properly. It was a bit odd seeing me with no chest hair. I can't remember when it last looked like this.

Next she wanted to do underarms. But she needed to untie my wrists, which we hadn't thought about beforehand. I held up my arms, one at a time. This hair came off with the trimmer in no time, and the razor was really quick too.

Wrists tied back behind me, she made me keep my legs apart, and started on my pubes. This took a bit of time, as she was worried about catching my skin. She used the trimmer on my balls with a plastic guard thing, to stop me getting snagged. Then the foam and razor.
She really concentrated to get every last hair. When she wiped me clean, she looked at me and smiled.
Then she told me to stand and bend over the kitchen table. This was the part I didn't really want her to do. I asked her to leave my bum as it was. But she was having none of it. I thought of the note I'd written and bent over. It's very undignified having your bum shaved!

To be honest, there wasn't a lot of hair there. It was quite arousing when she rubbed the shaving foam around my arsehole. Which she deliberately pressed against with her thumb!

Soon she was done. She then started undoing my wrists. I told her she could do more. But she said she might do more another time.
Then she made me stand and twirl around. Then she burst out laughing. She said I looked like a large 12 or 13 year old. She told me to look in the mirror. She was right. It was so strange seeing me with no chest hair or pubes.

She said that, for some reason, with no hair around the base of my cock, that it made my cock look skinnier. Which I had to agree with.

She then sat in front of me, legs apart and started fingering herself. She told me to slowly play with myself, but not to come.
Fairly soon she was breathing heavy, and kept saying "It looks so cute. SO fucking cute!" and "you look like such a little boy!".
It wasn't long before she made herself cum.
Then she told me to wank myself "like a little teenager, in his bedroom, wanking to nude girls on the internet".

She squirted some shaving foam on my cock.
Because I'd already been slowly playing with myself, it didn't take me long to cum either, especially with Lucy repeatedly saying "there's a good boy. Wank your little willy".

Then we went and had a shower and I was able to see myself properly in the mirror, stood up. And I really did look like I was 12 or 13 again, except for my leg and arm hair.

Some other news later.

[elina]

Thank you John

You are so lucky to be allowed to see your sexy Wife blossoming and gradually increasing Her control over you.
Remember to be a good boy and treath Her like the Queen She is;
Always obey,
Never argue with Her
She is always right
Whatever She says goes.

Can't wait for the "other news later"

Sincerely
elina

[johnswan]

The 'other news' I referred to concerns discussions I had with Lucy on Sunday.

Basically she isn't keen, at the moment, to seek another man to have sex with.
She has concerns about what it might do to our marriage.

I think that the recent flurry of new sexual activities that we've introduced, buying me lingerie, shaving me, plus the other items on our wishlists, has been plenty for her to handle. But to add a foray into infidelity, wife sharing, or call it what you want, is a bit too much to deal with. "At the moment".

She hasn't ruled out having any sexual contact with another person (she did actually ask if it had to be with a man!), but doesn't think now is the right time.

So I've just reassured her that I'm fully supportive of her, should she be in the right situation for something to happen. And that I'd like it to happen.

I also made it plain to her that I wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with another woman.

She said she was happy to hear about fantasies I had that involved another 'fit' guy. So I've got to work on some fantasies where maybe I'm also involved in some way, possibly including some sort of light cuckolding element.

We've got other things on our wishlists to persue.
So that will keep the sexual interest high. Plus some of those things have a connection with cuckolding and her being more in control of our sexual life.
She is still keen for me to buy a chastity cage. So I'll decide on something to buy as soon as I can.

I'm still keen for her to go out in public with me, dressed in something revealing, maybe slutty even.
Lucy is reluctant to go out locally dressed like that, as we live in a rural area, with lots of small villages. The chances of meeting someone we know, or one of Lucy's clients from her work, are quite high. And gossip in our area is rampant. So, finances permitting, we might try a weekend away somewhere, where she won't be recognised, and she can have more fun dressing up. Or is it 'dressing down'?

[Paulypippa]

The 'other news' I referred to concerns discussions I had with Lucy on Sunday.

Basically she isn't keen, at the moment, to seek another man to have sex with.
She has concerns about what it might do to our marriage.

I think that the recent flurry of new sexual activities that we've introduced, buying me lingerie, shaving me, plus the other items on our wishlists, has been plenty for her to handle. But to add a foray into infidelity, wife sharing, or call it what you want, is a bit too much to deal with. "At the moment".

She hasn't ruled out having any sexual contact with another person (she did actually ask if it had to be with a man!), but doesn't think now is the right time.

So I've just reassured her that I'm fully supportive of her, should she be in the right situation for something to happen. And that I'd like it to happen.

I also made it plain to her that I wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship with another woman.

She said she was happy to hear about fantasies I had that involved another 'fit' guy. So I've got to work on some fantasies where maybe I'm also involved in some way, possibly including some sort of light cuckolding element.

We've got other things on our wishlists to persue.
So that will keep the sexual interest high. Plus some of those things have a connection with cuckolding and her being more in control of our sexual life.
She is still keen for me to buy a chastity cage. So I'll decide on something to buy as soon as I can.

I'm still keen for her to go out in public with me, dressed in something revealing, maybe slutty even.
Lucy is reluctant to go out locally dressed like that, as we live in a rural area, with lots of small villages. The chances of meeting someone we know, or one of Lucy's clients from her work, are quite high. And gossip in our area is rampant. So, finances permitting, we might try a weekend away somewhere, where she won't be recognised, and she can have more fun dressing up. Or is it 'dressing down'?

I feel your pain at not being able to crack the cuck scene. I just can't get my wife over the line with this either and I've got 2 friends that are very well equipped to come in and handle things too.

You've seemed to handle it better than I have though with looking at alternatives to keep interest alive. Let's hope persistence pays off for you

[coastalkid]

Basically she isn't keen, at the moment, to seek another man to have sex with.
She has concerns about what it might do to our marriage.

I think that the recent flurry of new sexual activities that we've introduced, buying me lingerie, shaving me, plus the other items on our wishlists, has been plenty for her to handle. But to add a foray into infidelity, wife sharing, or call it what you want, is a bit too much to deal with. "At the moment".

......... but doesn't think now is the right time.

We've got other things on our wishlists to persue.
.....her being more in control of our sexual life. She is still keen for me to buy a chastity cage.

I'm still keen for her to go out in public with me, dressed in something revealing, maybe slutty even.
Lucy is reluctant to go out locally dressed like that, as we live in a rural area, with lots of small villages. The chances of meeting someone we know, or one of Lucy's clients from her work, are quite high. And gossip in our area is rampant. So, finances permitting, we might try a weekend away somewhere, where she won't be recognised, and she can have more fun dressing up. Or is it 'dressing down'?

It sounds like Lucy isn't sure or convinced that there won't be some negative results of what you want. She may be thinking about how this may change things in your "non-sexual" relationship (ie the greater part of your time together). She may be concerned that changes that occur will be permanent and cause her to lose the man she loves now. She might be thinking that she doesn't want it in real life because it would involve a "third party" that comes with all the unknowns that she can't anticipate or prepare for. All of this is nothing more than speculation on my part. You'd have to ask her yourself. I'm just going by what I read, think and feel.

It does sound like she isn't as concerned about things you and she do privately just between you two, like with the lingerie, shaving and chastity thing. Given the dynamics of your small village and the rampant gossip that accompanies small town talk Lucy clearly doesn't want that kind of attention. She needs discretion and anonymity. As long as she sees the potential for being "outed" her mind will be conflicted.

She's holding back for a reason. She has doubts and concerns that are prompting a sense of caution and reluctance while dealing with a husband that is ecstatic about wishes being fulfilled and realized. She may see you as blinded by the kink. Still, it sounds like you have a great chance to make it turn out to everyone's happiness and satisfaction. You simply have more work to do to achieve your goal.