Going to Church With Her Bull

[DaddyMikeD]

When my wife and I were newly married she was cheating on me with two different men. It was common that his unholy seed was swimming and leaking out of her pussy. she would still have fertile cum in her belly. I admitted that i was fine with her need for other men and women, she was raised to be a slut.

[D+D]

He already told us he lives in a different city. I would think if she’s spent the weekend with him and then went to church, he’s not married.

I was referring to the guy who’s wife’s bull was a pastor

[MartasBoy]

Would like to hear of further developments, definitely interesting!

also, how do you feel about a deepening bond between them? have they comitted to a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship at this point?

Well, I found out it happened again this weekend. She went to his town to be with him for the weekend. I noticed that she packed it garment bag with a nice dress, and pair of heels and bag to match. I asked about the dress, because it wasn't sexy date night kind of dress, it was more of a Meet the Parents kind of dress, or go to church on Sunday Kind of dress. She said it was just in case they went somewhere nice.

But today, she confirmed that she went to church with him again. Previously, she has always come back home early Sunday morning, but the last couple of times she has stayed later, to go to church with him. I asked her what that was all about, since she and I have never gone to church together, and she has never been into church at all. He said that she was just keeping him company, because he prefers to have her join him for church.

I asked her if she was getting into going, or how she tolerated being there, when we have never been church kind of people. She told me she enjoys the choir, and dressing in a way that's different from the way she dresses when they go out dancing.

It's weird how I feel. Her church attendance with him, has meant that she gets home much later on Sunday afternoon, than she used to, on other trips to see him. In some ways I feel more anxious waiting for her to get home, knowing she's at church with him, than I do when I know their at his place, in bed together.

I asked if this was going to be a regular thing, and she refused to talk about it any further.

[coastalkid]

It sure seems "off" to me. Your wife must realize it too given her refusal to talk about it any more. There's a reason she doesn't want to discuss it with you and I would guess she knows it won't be an easy discussion. It baffles me as to the attraction to church. It just doesn't fit with the whole hot wife identity. I get the feeling that there's more here than you know right now.

Would you be interested in spying on them in church? Just to see for yourself? It's easy to sneak in late to church and just as easy to sneak out early.

[mooncucky]

To me, it really feels as of they moved into a real loving relationship. That doesn’t have to be an issue if you can live with it.

It also kind of happened with my wife and her former boyfriend and I can tell you it wasn’t always easy. At a certain point she was so into him that he came first to her on any matter. I loved it but luckily over time it changed again. Because I can tell you it’s not for the weak, not every couple would survive this kind of thing so know what you’re getting into.

The best of luck.

[knight4princess]

I totally agree with coastalkid on this one. I definitely would sneak into that church for a look-see -- if you know which one it is.

[MartasBoy]

Pretty erotic to me. Great to play with fire, gentle encouragment, things move along step by step, ever deeper engagement between the two whilst you step back. Church is part of it, she joins his church, you are not involved. She is seen as his partner socially. Maybe he introduces her to his parents/family. Stays over with him more often. Takes his semen only. Sees herself as his now. You start to see you are becoming the friend and he is her partner.

My wife told me that I am making too big a deal out of this. She said that she always hates when their weekend together has to come to an end. He likes to go to church, so she used to just head home early Sunday morning, and he would go to church. That first Sunday, he asked her to go with him and keep him company. She liked getting more time with him. That first time, they went out to brunch with some people from the church. This past weekend, they went back to his place and had sex one more time, before she headed home. She liked that. My wife also says that she likes music, and this church has a good choir.

He has thanked her for going with him. He says that the older church ladies have quit pestering him, and trying to fix him up with their nieces and daughters. They now ask about his girlfriend.

[MartasBoy]

It sure seems "off" to me. Your wife must realize it too given her refusal to talk about it any more. There's a reason she doesn't want to discuss it with you and I would guess she knows it won't be an easy discussion. It baffles me as to the attraction to church. It just doesn't fit with the whole hot wife identity. I get the feeling that there's more here than you know right now.

Would you be interested in spying on them in church? Just to see for yourself? It's easy to sneak in late to church and just as easy to sneak out early.

I would think it might be too risky for me to try and sneak into their church. I'm not sure how big of a church it is. If my wife found out, she would find it to be an incredible intrusion, and be upset with me, I think.
At this point, she is talking to me about it, and giving me some information about their Church experience together. I don't want to ruin that. He has been a really good relationship for her, and this has been good for both of us. I would be afraid to mess it up somehow.

I totally agree with coastalkid on this one. I definitely would sneak into that church for a look-see -- if you know which one it is.

I have been invited to a couple of gatherings of his friends, like a 4th of July barbecue, where I was introduced as her cousin, and friend of theirs. If one of his friends recognized me in church, it would be awkward.

[coastalkid]

If your situation is "too good to mess up" then you've made your choice and you'll have to learn to let it go. Clearly he's been SUCH a good relationship for her that your wife is ready to do non-sexual things that she had shown absolutely no interest in before. It's inevitable that your mind will ponder "what's next"? You won't be able to discuss those thoughts because she's already shown her reluctance to do so. You'll be left to your own imagination.

There's a reason you feel more anxious about her returning from church than you do her returning from his bed. You know that her going to church with him has nothing to do with their sex. If it's just sex between them that's one thing. Sex in and of itself is a significant but a calculated risk. Adding non-sexual social activities like church seems like it is nurturing their relationship beyond the sexual. Further it establishes a precedent for more and other non-sexual activities like his family birthdays, parties or other celebrations. She can always say, "What's the big deal? I go to church with him and they are all used to seeing me around."

My intuition tells me that there is more going on and it isn't all about the sex. In cheating wife stories you often read the caught wife claiming, "But it was just sex sweetheart!" That's because they know that developing the relationship beyond sex is outside the intention. Your wife will have a really difficult time claiming, "It was just sex!" Something is rotten in Denmark!

[MartasBoy]

If your situation is "too good to mess up" then you've made your choice and you'll have to learn to let it go. Clearly he's been SUCH a good relationship for her that your wife is ready to do non-sexual things.....

.... Adding non-sexual social activities like church seems like it is nurturing their relationship beyond the sexual. ....

Oh, it's been more than just sex for quite some time. I am well aware that they have become boyfriend and girlfriend. It's what she desired to have, not just to feel like she was being used for sex, but to be with someone she feels an emotional connection with as well.

For the last couple of years, she has been his date for Valentine's Day dinner, and New Year's parties with his friends. I have been invited to things like a 4th of July barbecue with his friends and family. She has been introduced as his out of town girlfriend, and I have been introduced as her "cousin who is like a brother."

There have been other things that he has invited her to, in a field that was almost entirely male-dominated 15 years ago.
that were more like a boyfriend and girlfriend interaction, rather than a hot wife lover.

There are other ways in which she has shown completely different sides of herself. My wife is a highly educated and successful career professional, in a field that was almost entirely male-dominated 15 years ago. She has her PhD and has a job where she is in charge of a large statewide program, supervising 5 branch offices, and the staff of 60 people. My wife is a staunch feminist.

She has been invited along the past 2 years, as his girlfriend, at Super Bowl parties with his friends. The other wives and girlfriends in his friend group, are more traditional women. Several are stay at home housewives. Few of them work at full-time jobs, and my wife is the only woman in the group with a graduate education.

The women get together in the morning, to begin cooking party food for the boyfriends and husbands, then they serve the men beers and food during the game. My wife says that the women all stay in the kitchen, and watch the game on a TV there, switching back and forth from the Super Bowl commercials, to the Animal Planet Puppy Bowl. They usually go in and sit with their husbands during the halftime show.

My wife says that the women seem to respect her for her educational and career success, but some of the women border on practically being Trad Wives. It all seems so very unlike my wife, how she normally is. She tells me that it's fun, that it means a lot to her boyfriend, and that it's only one day a year.

[12gone]

Personally I'd be very, very uncomfortable with that. First of all, I'm wildly anti religion. Second, I don't want my wife suddenly believing, and driving a wedge between us. Third, church people being church people, they're going to start asking when they're getting married.

For me, any side fun must be strictly sex. No hanging out, no dates, no dinner, and definitely no public interaction, especially at something as unholy as a church.

[coastalkid]

It's cool that your wife has her PHD. To get that far in ANY field of study takes commitment, dedication and intelligence. Is this guy someone that is in the same field of industry as her? Is that how they met?

Something that strikes me as odd is the way you described (or wife describes) the other women in the group. You used "traditional" women. I would think given the way you describe you wife as a staunch feminist that she would be repulsed by that role. Maybe even think less of them. I wonder if your wife has considered that her bull wants your wife to be like the "traditional" wives? Hence the church and the women serving the men beer and food and watching the game in a separate room. What can your wife possibly find to have in common with these women?

Plus it's not just one day a year. It's Valentine's, New Years, Fourth of July, and probably any other occasion worth celebrating. If she's willing to sit around the kitchen and talk about helpful household hints with the other trad wives to make her bull happy that speaks to the depth of her commitment to him.

With all her education and experience working with people it baffles me that she would not anticipate your confusion about what she's doing. She has to be sharp enough to know that you have uncertain feelings about the church thing. To do nothing or just avoiding the discussion doesn't jive with her leadership role in her business life.

I mean it could be that you're a non-factor in her mind. She simply doesn't have to explain her actions and behaviors to you. I know that sounds mean and it's nothing more than a wild ass guess. As smart as your wife is I wonder where she's going with this? What's her long term plan for this guy/bull?

[MartasBoy]

It's cool that your wife has her PHD. To get that far in ANY field of study takes commitment, dedication and intelligence. Is this guy someone that is in the same field of industry as her? Is that how they met?

No, they work in different fields. She met him through a FetLife listing for non-monogamous and hot wife play.

Something that strikes me as odd is the way you described (or wife describes) the other women in the group. You used "traditional" women. I would think given the way you describe you wife as a staunch feminist that she would be repulsed by that role. Maybe even think less of them.

My wife does not look down on other women, for the roles they choose in life. She is not repulsed by other women's choices. That is a common myth about feminists, that they are critical of, and judge other women who choose different roles. My wife admires stay at home mom's and women who choose a more traditional relationship. Her brand of feminism is one of acceptance, and a belief that women should have the right to choose whatever role in life is most comfortable for them.

I wonder if your wife has considered that her bull wants your wife to be like the "traditional" wives? Hence the church and the women serving the men beer and food and watching the game in a separate room. What can your wife possibly find to have in common with these women?

My wife is not a snob or an elitist. These women don't address her by any doctoral title, like Dr. M. Away from work, she is just a regular person. She likes people from all walks of life. She has sisters who lead more traditional lives. Two of the women in her boyfriend's friend group work full time and have professional careers. They have college education, just not graduate degrees. Two of the women work part-time and care for kids and their home, working around their part-time jobs. There is one of the women who is a full-time stay at home mom and housewife. My wife says that the women are smart and interesting. My wife likes to cook, she likes clothes and fashion, she likes talking about popular music and current events. She doesn't talk about her work with everybody she meets on the weekends. She likes to leave her work at work, and talk about other things with people on her days off. They find things to talk about.
I said that a couple of the women "border" on being trad-wives. I don't think they necessarily officially identify themselves that way.

Plus it's not just one day a year. It's Valentine's, New Years, Fourth of July, and probably any other occasion worth celebrating. If she's willing to sit around the kitchen and talk about helpful household hints with the other trad wives to make her bull happy that speaks to the depth of her commitment to him.

I shouldn't have used the term "trad wives". I don't think any of them identify under that term. That was just my descriptive term to illustrate that they are different from my wife. My wife is a very kind and generous person and is able to connect well with people from all walks of life. She says she enjoys being in a more traditional girlfriend role from time to time, as a break from the pressures of her job. He lives in a different city 2 hours away, and generally they get together one or two weekends a month, and some of those other holidays I mentioned, which are often on weekend. I have my wife for Christmas and Thanksgiving and most of the rest of the year. She enjoys their occasional boyfriend girlfriend relationship. She says that she is willing to do some things that may seem out of character for her, too maintain the relationship. She says that she prefers to be married to me, and that she would not want to marry him. She jokes about being his occasional weekend "fiance."

With all her education and experience working with people it baffles me that she would not anticipate your confusion about what she's doing. She has to be sharp enough to know that you have uncertain feelings about the church thing. To do nothing or just avoiding the discussion doesn't jive with her leadership role in her business life.

She doesn't completely avoid the discussion. She says she doesn't appreciate when I question her to the point that it feels like an interrogation, or like I am picking things apart. She says that I am making too much of it.
My wife also did a lot of theater and drama club in high school, and a little bit in college. She actually thought of majoring in theater at one point, but went on to other areas of study. She says that her life with her boyfriend, is somewhat of an acting role. On occasional weekends, and some holidays, she gets to be the girlfriend, or "fiance", of a guy who is single and carefree, and has no kids, and has no interest in actually getting married. For one Sunday, she sort of enjoys playing the role of a somewhat traditional Superbowl wife, or girlfriend.

I mean it could be that you're a non-factor in her mind. She simply doesn't have to explain her actions and behaviors to you. I know that sounds mean and it's nothing more than a wild ass guess. As smart as your wife is I wonder where she's going with this? What's her long term plan for this guy/bull?

As I said in my comments above, she views this as a fun fantasy weekend, a role she is playing. She finds it a fun diversion and brief vacation from the demands of her regular life. She has told me that her boyfriend is somewhat of a Playboy, and not someone she would consider as husband material. She says she can't imagine any better husband than I have been to her. She has said before that I am the glue that holds us together. She says that the boyfriend is a play partner, and she views me as the long-term partner who she will grow old with.

[coastalkid]

Thanks for your post. It helps having a clearer picture of what your wife is like. I sincerely apologize if I offended you or your wife. I was only going by what I read from your posts. Your clarification set me straight, thanks.

[MartasBoy]

Thanks for your post. It helps having a clearer picture of what your wife is like. I sincerely apologize if I offended you or your wife. I was only going by what I read from your posts. Your clarification set me straight, thanks.

Oh, no problem. My wife is very serious and driven through the work week, when she's attending to her job. Her work is demanding and stressful. On weekends she looks for distractions and diversions to create a different life for her away from work.
My wife is a genuine feminist, like the majority of them. She supports freedom of choice for women so that women can choose the kind of life style they want, rather than feeling like they're trapped in it. My wife respects women who choose a more traditional lifestyle, or to be a stay-at-home mom and housewife. Her only opposition to it would be, if a woman was trapped in it and forced into it, because of poverty, missed opportunities for education, or because of a controlling or abusive spouse.

On weekends, having an outside lover gives my wife the freedom too experience a different kind of life. She can be the girlfriend, or pretend fiance for a younger Playboy boyfriend. She can pretend to to be a wild party girl on Saturday night, and now, I guess, on Sunday she can pretend to be a straight laced respectable church girl.

[SteelRidge]

This sounds like a Puddy and Elaine situation from Seinfeld.

[MartasBoy]

This sounds like a Puddy and Elaine situation from Seinfeld.

Wow, I know that episode. Her boyfriend would be Puddy, and my wife would be Elaine. And the line where Elaine asks if Puddy is worried that she's not a christian, and he tells her he's not worried, because he's not the one going to hell, she is.

I don't know that that's how my wife feels.