It might actually happen after years of telling me no.

[BallSpanking]

Hang in there!

[w770]

hi everyone. Thanks for your messages. I've read them all and really wished I had the time to reply to each but know that I've taken it all in.

Update: So Lana and I have gone to a couple's therapist over everything that's happened. It's strange because there's still that instinct to protect our secrets of the lifestyle, but once the opening up happens, it's like a waterfall. The therapist is really good and non judgemental. I'll save the boring details but the silver lining was that what was suggested by the therapist was that we somehow get away and disconnect for a while, and it just so happens that my parents are leaving for an overseas trip next month for 5 weeks, so we're planning on flying west to be with them for a week before they leave, and then we'll have the house to ourselves and the kid for a month where we'll hopefully be successful in getting pregnant.

The therapist also noted that as a couple, tend to push boundaries but do so almost in a way that suggests that we have a solid foundation. We talked about delineating between lust and fantasy from reality, and if there was a plausible way to actually have both. Ultimately, Lana and I have acknowledged that denying a connection between her and Conner and what she calls the best sex of her life, would only breed (pun intended) resentment. And therefore, so long as she remains on birth control, that her and Conner can continue to fuck w/out my knowledge and that we will relax the 3 day rule as long as she tells me everything when we make it out west. Her phone is always open to me, and that any time I want to know anything, she will tell me.

As a result, I've been going through her phone either in the morning when I wake up before going to work or late at night after Lana has fallen asleep, and from what I can tell, they've fucked once since we've come to our new arrangement - again while I was in the office. "He'll be gone tomorrow by 8am and the kid will be in daycare by 9. " Followed by a picture of her in her pink bra and panties and the black heels he likes. A message from him later that afternoon was "hey sorry if I went a bit hard on you today. It's just been a while." We're planning on making love tonight, and even though I wanted to originally wait until we're out west to ask her about all of the endeavors she's had since, I don't know if I can wait, so it'll be interesting to hear.

Overall I think we're in a better place now than where we were a few weeks ago. Thank you for all of the messages, again. It was the toughest time in our marriage but I really think we're on the other side now.

Hope everyone is well.

[coastalkid]

Thanks for the update. I hope you and Lana can find your way to something that is satisfying for everyone included. Are you going to continue with the therapist? Were there any significant outcomes from the sessions you did have?

[Dream Weaver]

Thanks for the update. I hope you and Lana can find your way to something that is satisfying for everyone included. Are you going to continue with the therapist? Were there any significant outcomes from the sessions you did have?

I second this great question. I don't see any change other than they figured out a window to try and get her pregnant, and he's accepted his cuck place and can get phone snoop updates. Sexually she is her own free person, he has 3rd wheel status, and she gives her pussy and attention to another man, and that's simply the way it's going to be. He's clearly turned on by the thrill and danger of her crushing on other guys, especially when it's one person in particular at a time. I suspect it allows him to focus on that guy and really get the imagination going, and if the guy gives him some side thrills by paying attention to HIM as the sexual superior/inferior relationship... all the better.

[Bart77]

I think a lot of us jumped the gun on thinking both Lana and Conner were considering trying to have a baby together. It doesn’t sound like they even discussed it? And Conner is just happy he has free use of Lana’s pussy until further notice (I’d love to know what he means by “going too hard” on her…).

[Long Lurker 34]

Does it not take a few weeks for the effects of BC to wane? If they want to try getting preg again next month during that one week period shouldn't Lana be stopping the pills and start using some rubbers?

[Dream Weaver]

Does it not take a few weeks for the effects of BC to wane? If they want to try getting preg again next month during that one week period shouldn't Lana be stopping the pills and start using some rubbers?

Not necessarily. With many brands the last week is just placebo pills. I think maybe 2 days to wear off. You REALLY don't want to skip a pill when it's the hormones. That's why it's daily, not less often. They wear off quick.

[readyy2009]

So far Lana has not really stuck to any agreements at least not long term...Trying to time her getting pregnant after coming off BC has problems written all over it...Good luck W I really hope everything works as planned

[coastalkid]

Thanks for the update. I hope you and Lana can find your way to something that is satisfying for everyone included. Are you going to continue with the therapist? Were there any significant outcomes from the sessions you did have?

I second this great question. I don't see any change other than they figured out a window to try and get her pregnant, and he's accepted his cuck place and can get phone snoop updates. Sexually she is her own free person, he has 3rd wheel status, and she gives her pussy and attention to another man, and that's simply the way it's going to be. He's clearly turned on by the thrill and danger of her crushing on other guys, especially when it's one person in particular at a time. I suspect it allows him to focus on that guy and really get the imagination going, and if the guy gives him some side thrills by paying attention to HIM as the sexual superior/inferior relationship... all the better.

I think everything you said could be true. We won't know until w770 says. There could be other things at play here that we don't know about. Who knows, right?

The clear thing is that they have consulted a therapist. That infers they needed some form of assistance or they were having some sort difficulty that required professional help. You don't "just do" that unless you hope it will make things better. Something needs to be better or different.

[venus-can99]

Thanks for the update W and good to hear that you and Lana have consulted a professional with an aim to save the marriage. This shows commitment to each other, great that you are heading west to a break and renew the intimacy free from distractions.

[jeffx]

So Lana betrays you, causing real and on-going harm to your marriage and she gets to keep on doing what she wants, at the therapist's suggestion?
I've heard of bad therapists before, but this one takes the cake.

[johnswan]

So Lana betrays you, causing real and on-going harm to your marriage and she gets to keep on doing what she wants, at the therapist's suggestion?
I've heard of bad therapists before, but this one takes the cake.

Absolutely agree.

[Goodboy66]

I suspect, out west there will be a random hookup with a guy with a massive cock and breeding fetish.

[Jujube]

I think everyone should be reminded that this is a cuckold couple. I don’t think there was ever any desire on either of their parts for Lana to be knocked up by Conner. They flirted with that way back with Shawn, and were roundly chastised by the board ( and rightly so). I think they were in a dilemma about their having another child, and the inability of Lana to resist Conner. I see no problem with their seeking lifestyle sensitive counseling, as the situation “is what it is”. I also think they probably got the best advice possible given their current situation.

[venus-can99]

So Lana betrays you, causing real and on-going harm to your marriage and she gets to keep on doing what she wants, at the therapist's suggestion?
I've heard of bad therapists before, but this one takes the cake.

Absolutely agree.

Since we really dont know the details of their discussions with the therapist I would suggest that we refrain from casting judgement on the couple or the counselor.

[Bart77]

Agree, for the most part, with Jujube. But there was definitely acknowledgment from W that while reality of Conner impregnating Lana would be a bad decision, the THOUGHT of it was very much a gut-wrenching turn on. And given the dynamics of their current lifestyle, I understand why.

[setv4]

It's Great that you both are talking to a Professional Therapist.

[Jujube]

I think the fantasy of the wife getting pregnant by a clearly superior, alpha lover is probably the most gut-wrenching ultimate turn-on for a cuckold couple. It’s the wife surrendering her very core, her genes, to be mingled with another man. I’m sure there are a lot of cuckold couples that play around with this powerful cuck end-game, but I believe that in almost all cases, that particular reality is just confined to fantasy. It plays into the wife’s submission and the cuck’s ultimate humiliation, but the consequences and complications are just a bridge too far.

[coastalkid]

I think the fantasy of the wife getting pregnant by a clearly superior, alpha lover is probably the most gut-wrenching ultimate turn-on for a cuckold couple. It’s the wife surrendering her very core, her genes, to be mingled with another man. I’m sure there are a lot of cuckold couples that play around with this powerful cuck end-game, but I believe that in almost all cases, that particular reality is just confined to fantasy. It plays into the wife’s submission and the cuck’s ultimate humiliation, but the consequences and complications are just a bridge too far.

Well said!

[Rogueuser1]

Glad you guys are doing better --- hopefully you continue to be satisfied with what evidence you find and what she is willing to tell you. I've loved your journey and hope that you will keep us up to date!

[william70]

I was looking so forward to following Conner getting Lana pregnant.

[jmontagn]

I was looking so forward to following Conner getting Lana pregnant.

If Lana does not get pregnant on that trip, I would be very surprised if Conner does not father their next child.

[w770]

Good morning. Hope everyone is well. I read all of the posts and will do my best to address them w/out directly responding - time constraints as always.

Anyway, the therapist outlined the parameters of what Lana and I both want, whether it stem from lust or love, and emphasized the importance of finding a working solution where we both are having our sexual needs met along with the security w/ the knowing that our kinks are only kinks, as much as we might be convinced that it's beyond that. Very generalized, very non-judgmental, but most importantly it was an opportunity to be heard by a neutral 3rd party. It was refreshing since our only exposure to having this lifestyle under scrutiny has been met with disbelief, judgment, a litany of warnings, a mix of negative and positive. It is what it is, but it hasn't really been helpful per se, as we feel like if we reached out for help and advice from our friends, it would be mostly a mix of "we told you this would happen" and who knows what else.

We have a few weeks before we leave for the west coast, but we're both excited about the plan to get away since it'll be a nice change of pace and scenery. But in that time, Lana and Conner have fucked multiple times. She's even set up the doggy camera on the dresser inconspicuously w/out telling me, knowing that I would receive the motion detection notifications on my phone. Imagine the rush of emotions while I'm at the office and seeing my phone alerting me that motion was detected in the bedroom and watching Lana on her back with Conner holding her by the ankles spreading her legs wide open, the both of them telling each other how good it felt, her telling him how deep he is inside of her, him directing her to get on all fours while he presses his chest against her back until the obvious end.

It's funny in a way as we'll make love as soon as I get home, both of us knowing what transpired earlier in the day but not explicitly mentioning it. And this is a bit of what the therapist encouraged - to both acknowledge what both of us want even if it seems counter-intuitive such as the fact that I hate that I'm so turned on by her cheating, and just embracing that. So it's been a bit of routine at this point where after we make love, I'll pass out and she'll text with Conner. I have a tendency to wake up in the middle of the night and in this time, I'll read over her messages with him and jerk off to the conversation along with the recordings from earlier in that day from the motion camera. And honestly, some of those videos are the hottest things I've seen since we've started in this lifestyle. Just the way Lana's body moves when she's riding Conner on our bed isn't like anything I've seen her do, obviously with me but also with others. She'll wildly ride him until he slips out, causing her to reach back, stroke his cock as he moans for her to put him back in, hearing the synchronized moaning of the both of them as she re-inserts him, the way he's completely splayed out on our bed while she blows him in between rounds, etc.

She's scheduled to get her IUD removed in a few weeks, a couple days before we leave for my parents, the implication being that her and Conner will continue to fuck until we leave.

It's been a nice routine lately.

Hope everyone is well.

[hwlurker88]

Does the therapist know about the potential of Connor being the one to get your wife pregnant?

[w770]

Does the therapist know about the potential of Connor being the one to get your wife pregnant?

No she is not. But she is on an IUD and has plans to take it out right before we leave, so it's pretty unlikely that he actually will impregnate her.