Asking GF to watch porn went wrong!

[Fapster69]

Well the sexy clothes arrived and I was treated to a fashion show! It wasn’t the right time to take photos but we will hopefully take some soon!

My GF has nice meaty labia so I bought an open crotch gstring as well as one with pearls that give her pussy a wedgie, they were a sight to behold, her pussy lips dangling out/swallowing the pearls was super hot! She was a fan of the open crotch pair but not quite sure about the pearls yet, they definitely weren’t something you’d wear on a daily basis!

The other things that I bought were tight booty shorts and some mini skirts which you can see in the previous post.

One of the outfits was a schoolgirl halloween costume (not my thing but I bought it because of the skirt) with a small tartan mini skirt. We laughed when we opened it because it looked ridiculous and crumpled but when she tried it on in front of the mirror we both loved it! Her ass was hanging out and she was striking poses while I stood next to her, I was rock hard with a massive smile on my face!

Anyway, after the fashion show I asked if I could bring out my bag of tricks (black dildos all bigger than me) and she granted my wish!

I touched her pussy through the white gstring that came with the schoolgirl outfit, I could see how wet she was just from trying things on, I hadn’t even touched her yet!

So I picked the biggest dildo of the bunch and tried to get the head in, she was soaked but the thing is just too big, so we downsized to a smaller one (still bigger than me).

I played with it a little bit and then asked if she could take over while I watched. So here we were, she was slowly inching this dildo into her wet pussy while I sat and watched.

This black dildo is from mrhankystoys and is modelled after a real guy (he’s white but she doesn’t know that! the guy is Nick Capra, I’ve never heard of him though). So I said to her technically you’re taking another mans cock right now!

She had the dirtiest look on her face as though she was getting off on me watching! She was pushing this thing deeper and staring me down while doing it, it was super hot!

She was pushing the dildo balls deep and I asked if she could ride it for a little while, so she turned around and climbed on top. She slid down to the balls immediately, I sensed an opportunity, so I moved in front of her and she started sucking my cock while bouncing on the dildo!

While she was sucking my cock I asked if she was enjoying herself and she stopped sucking and said, “Yeah!” I said what are you enjoying and she said “having sex with this big black cock!” Just as we were about to finish I said, “We’ll there you go, you’ve just had your first threesome!” and she let out a sexy moan followed by, “My only threesome! ”

Shot down in flames at the end but an amazing night!

I can’t believe this thread is coming up on its two year anniversary! Do you guys think I’ve made decent progress in this time?

[Cuckcuckgoose1]

The correct response to her statement "my only threesome" would have been...


"So far"

[hwlurker88]

Good ol' Nick Capra dildo! We use the medium size. Wife absolutely loves it! She can be into sex with me, but as soon as I bring out that dildo, she lights on fire! Actually have 2 of them. 2 different firmness but both are medium. Watch out! He will steal her pussy from you!

[Fapster69]

I've been trying my best not to bring this up to my girlfriend, that's why the thread has been dead lately!

I was getting carried away, so have cut way back! We've only had maybe one or two movie nights since my last post but still having regular normal sex and it's as amazing as ever!

I've been trying to talk a lot more during sex, my communication game hasn't been great, men learn to masturbate in silence!

She was giving me a blowjob a week or so ago and I kept telling her how good she was at it, she really is! She can nearly deepthroat me and I'm a decent length!

When the mood was right I said to her, "Do you think you'd manage a big black one?"

She's always caught off guard but now she plays along! Initially startled, she then smirked and said, "Well obviously I could! " I've been getting braver lately so I told her I thought it would be really hot to watch her suck a big black one.

She asked me why and I said, "I just think it would be hot because you're good at it and I'd love to watch you suck a bigger one than mine! " Her answer is always that, "It would be hard work!" and my answer is always, "I'm sure you would manage! "

Anyway we started having sex, her on top riding me and I kept going with the dirty talk. I said to her that if there was a BBC bull in the room where would she want him? She said, "I'd want him behind me while I'm sucking your cock!" I couldn't believe my ears! She wanted the theoretical BBC fucking her doggy! I told her, "That would be amazing watching him fuck you while you're looking at me! "

A little bit later in the fuck she sat upright and did something with her arms but I didn't quite see what it was. I asked her what she was doing and she said. "You missed it! " I said, "Missed what? Do it again?" and she put both her arms out as if she was jerking off two cocks at either side of her with a big grin on her face! All I could say was, "Oh my god!" and eventually said, "That will be you on our holiday to Jamaica!" which she laughed at!

Anyway, that's where we're currently at, I just thought I'd give a little update. I love that we're able to talk about it and roleplay in the bedroom, even if she is a firm no in real life!

[scaryflyer]

Hey Fapster69,

Glad to read of your progress very entertaining, have sent a PM with some thoughts and ideas

[DrewRN]

Keep up the good work. Even if you never get beyond the fantasy/roleplaying in bed, it's still better than plain vanilla sex. I'm trying to get my wife into roleplaying and fantasies as she sounds like your GF at the beginning. I hope I can make as much progress as you have.

[DrewRN]

Keep up the good work. Even if you never get beyond the fantasy/roleplaying in bed, it's still better than plain vanilla sex. I'm trying to get my wife into roleplaying and fantasies as she sounds like your GF at the beginning. I hope I can make as much progress as you have.

[tryingthisout]

Entertaining read, and I could see myself and my situation in a lot of your posts. I don't wanna be a buzz kill, but I have little hope for you that you will see this turn into a reality. But I'll be following along.

[Fapster69]

I’m still here, just keeping my fantasy on the down low for a while!

I’ve been too busy with other things lately, but we still have our movie nights and she’s been getting braver with the dirty talk during sex!

Honestly, since pumping the breaks, I’d say I’ve made a lot more progress than when I went hard at the start. Fantasy nights are a lot more fun now she doesn’t feel like she’s on trial!

However, I’d never be at this point if I never took that risk in the beginning!

I can’t remember if I mentioned it previously, but she said to me that she likes the movies where the hotwife looks like her. I asked why and she said that she thinks it’s hot that I imagine that it’s her when I’m watching the movies!

Also, I don’t know if you seen the news, but Jamaica is DEFINITELY off the table now!

[sharedfantasy]

Honestly, since pumping the breaks, I’d say I’ve made a lot more progress than when I went hard at the start. Fantasy nights are a lot more fun now she doesn’t feel like she’s on trial!

However, I’d never be at this point if I never took that risk in the beginning!

I myself find this to be true, as well. At the times where we spoke about it and I got overly excited, my wife seemed more apprehensive about the idea of me sharing her, however when I kind of stopped talking about it for a couple of weeks, I noticed that she would then act a lot more open to acts I would ask for in bed, to the point where now she expects them to happen.

Also, when I stopped pressuring her about it, she would become more liberal in her day-to-day to clothing options. Bras are less used, panties as well, and now she asks me if she can wear revealing tops..

Progress is a long process, but it’s still progress

[Fapster69]

however when I kind of stopped talking about it for a couple of weeks, I noticed that she would then act a lot more open to acts I would ask for in bed, to the point where now she expects them to happen.

That has been exactly my experience as well!

I had kept this for a secret for so long that when I finally told her, I was a bit too full on. Now that it’s been a while, I’ve chilled out massively and we have a lot more fun with the fantasy now!

Sometimes it’s me saying no to movie nights now! Tonight for example, we were going to watch something but I was too tired from work and fell asleep! She said we can reschedule it to Saturday!

We had sex the other day and she honestly lasts longer than me now! Throughout our entire relationship it has always been me who has lasted the longest in the bedroom, she is a one and done type of girl, but recently I’ve noticed that she holds off her orgasm while fucking me!

It’s like she has finally learned to let loose and take what she wants, it’s like she’s not embarrassed to admit that she enjoys fucking now!

During sex I said to her that she had surpassed me now and she laughed and agreed! To get her to finish, I said to her to “think about what movie you want to watch first!” and she came not long after that!

It’s both exciting and terrifying! Like I’ve created a sexual monster!

She has said she never will, but if she does, she will definitely be one of those “there’s no putting the genie back in the bottle” type of people!

[sharedfantasy]

however when I kind of stopped talking about it for a couple of weeks, I noticed that she would then act a lot more open to acts I would ask for in bed, to the point where now she expects them to happen.

During sex I said to her that she had surpassed me now and she laughed and agreed! To get her to finish, I said to her to “think about what movie you want to watch first!” and she came not long after that!

Mm that’s a good idea and I may have to use this one!

Did you ask her afterward, which movie she was thinking about??

[Fapster69]

Mm that’s a good idea and I may have to use this one!

Did you ask her afterward, which movie she was thinking about??

I didn’t want to overplay my hand after she had finished!

She has pointed out some guys she doesn’t like, but I tease her and say that she must like something about them, otherwise she wouldn’t point them out!

I guess we’ll see tomorrow if movie night happens and if anything interesting takes place!

[sharedfantasy]

Mm that’s a good idea and I may have to use this one!

Did you ask her afterward, which movie she was thinking about??

I didn’t want to overplay my hand after she had finished!

She has pointed out some guys she doesn’t like, but I tease her and say that she must like something about them, otherwise she wouldn’t point them out!

I guess we’ll see tomorrow if movie night happens and if anything interesting takes place!

I get it, we don’t know when exactly is the right or wrong time to say certain things, but hey if she already came, maybe that’s a good time to ask too I’m sure movie night will tell you though, then maybe you can piggyback off of that..

Keep us updated, brother. Fingers crossed and best of luck!

[athlete915]

I love your thread because it is honest and tracks the many ups and downs associated with lifestyle, even just the fantasy stage. Too often, the stories read like "I admitted it to her, she immediately said yes, and had a bull a week later." Does that happen? Sure... maybe.. but not often. My anecdotal experience, with one exception, is that it took my couples a while to go from the fantasy stage to exploring it. Hell, it takes a while for most men to admit their desire to themselves, let alone tell their partner.

Anyway, that's a long way of saying thanks.

"I was a bit too full on." That's very common in my experience. Once the ice has been broken, the husbands want to pour all their desires out. That can be overwhelming.

"Like I’ve created a sexual monster!" That's my goal It probably sounds egotistical, but my goal is to fuck the wives better than they've ever been fucked. I use that to help explore their sexuality and spike their sex drives. I want them to have the sex they've always wanted, when they want it (with their husband's support).

[Fapster69]

I love your thread because it is honest and tracks the many ups and downs associated with lifestyle, even just the fantasy stage. Too often, the stories read like "I admitted it to her, she immediately said yes, and had a bull a week later." Does that happen? Sure... maybe.. but not often. My anecdotal experience, with one exception, is that it took my couples a while to go from the fantasy stage to exploring it. Hell, it takes a while for most men to admit their desire to themselves, let alone tell their partner.

Anyway, that's a long way of saying thanks.

"I was a bit too full on." That's very common in my experience. Once the ice has been broken, the husbands want to pour all their desires out. That can be overwhelming.

"Like I’ve created a sexual monster!" That's my goal It probably sounds egotistical, but my goal is to fuck the wives better than they've ever been fucked. I use that to help explore their sexuality and spike their sex drives. I want them to have the sex they've always wanted, when they want it (with their husband's support).

Yeah, some people are just fantasists and like writing fiction! Like you said, they are easy to spot!

That’s been about two and a half years since I brought it up to her, she is now fully comfortable watching hotwife porn and indulging in the fantasy with me!

We had our movie night yesterday and it went smooth as butter. Honestly, there’s not much to say that I haven’t said before! We both sat on the couch completely relaxed, naked on the bottom half, and started playing around with each other.

My strategy is that I make observational comments about the scene we’re watching, I’ll say something like, “I wonder what city they’re in?”, or “How do they get away with making so much noise in the hotel room? ”

I just throw things out there to see if I’ll get a reply!

Once we’re into it I start saying cheekier things like, “Do you think you could handle him/that?” (his huge cock) She used to get flustered/annoyed and say, “You know this will never happen, right?” I’m fully aware of her boundaries and told her this fantasy is completely in her hands and will only go as far as she lets it!

Since I’ve pumped the breaks she has gotten way more vocal during these sessions and will even throw out some comments of her own! We honestly watch some pretty hardcore stuff. Name a BBC scene and I’ve probably showed her it, tonnes of pro and amateur stuff! BBC gangbangs/blowbangs, the lot! She has even told me to skip scenes that are too boring!

Eventually I start narrating the scene as if she’s the wife in the video. Sometimes she will say, “But she’s blonde?” or “She’s too skinny!” but I just tell her, “You’re right, you would look so much better than them and do a better job too! ” She has this almost proud/smug look on her face when I say this, then she agrees and says, “I know I would! ”

Sometimes when the wife looks similar to her and I make a comment, she will say, “What do you mean? That is me! ” as if she is the actual woman getting fucked in the video!

I start telling her how I would be filming everything and getting in the way and she just starts laughing and saying, “Yeah you would be a nuisance! “

All I can do now is continue hoping and praying and keep doing what I’m doing!

[sharedfantasy]

I mean, you are pretty very close to this actually materializing, in my eyes (we are miles behind you guys), but maybe you are in a situation where you feel like you are out of options.. that is, everything is going great and the two of your are enjoying this, but when does it begin to translate into real life, a little bit more?

Has she made any mention of men at her workplace?
Amy erotic dreams where she was with another man?

[Fapster69]

Has she made any mention of men at her workplace?
Amy erotic dreams where she was with another man?

Nothing like that! I definitely don’t want to go down that whole workplace route!

I mentioned how I need a sun tan because I’m so pale and she said we could go on holiday to somewhere sunny.

I brought up the joke that I made in the past and said, “Yeah and you can bring the g-string bikini! ”. She said back to me, “If it’ll make you go on holiday! “.

We never booked anything, but I think this could be a good real world experience! I really think she could be down to try this and it would be super hot to see her thick white cheeks bouncing down the beach with guys watching!

She could wear sunglasses and it would help with the people looking?

What do you guys think? It would be like soft-cucking (lol?) and could help build her confidence even more when I tell her the whole beach was staring!

[athlete915]

"That’s been about two and a half years since I brought it up to her, she is now fully comfortable watching hotwife porn and indulging in the fantasy with me!"

That's awesome! Too often, I meet wannabes who have very maximalist mindsets. Anything short of a full cuckolding experience is treated like a failure. In my opinion, that's a good way of setting yourself up for failure and disappointment.

Your mindset is a lot healthier. You seem to recognize that it may never happen, but you appreciate the gains you've made. You're not only able to openly express your desire with her, but she indulges the fantasy with you. I'm sure that has been a ton of fun for both of you and your sex life is much better for it.

"Told her this fantasy is completely in her hands and will only go as far as she lets it!" Again, you're nailing it. This should ultimately be about her pleasure and excitement. If and when she goes further, you should want her to want to do it. Not simply to make you happy, but because she is excited to try.

"Yeah you would be a nuisance!" So, here's a recommendation. If that or a similar topic ever comes up again, use it as a jumping-off point to raise the practical aspect of what exactly she would want you to do. Would she be more comfortable with you there, or would she feel inhibited, self-conscious, etc.? If you were watching, would she want to take an active role (i.e., something closer to a threesome) or a more passive role, watching?

That's a good way to slowly build a bridge from the fantasy realm to practical reality. Nothing huge, but a good way to dip a toe.

Of course, before you do, you should have a clear idea of what you want. And not only what you want, but in the broader sense of must haves, nice-to-haves, and red lines. For example, her playing without you watching is a red line for you, or maybe you would be okay with it, especially if you could watch later when she was more comfortable.

"What do you guys think?" I think it is a great idea. It is similar to the previous topic in that it serves as a bridge from your bedroom fantasy play to reality. Take her on vacation, encourage her to dress a bit more revealing than usual (though don't push her too far), and then highlight the attention she is getting from other men. Remind her that she is a sexy, desirable woman, who plenty of men would love to be with...when she is ready

[leggysman]

Good, helpful, insightful advice from athlete915, as usual

Asking questions about the hypothetical practicalities ("... but if it happened, would you prefer ... ?") seems very constructive. My wife and I had some discussions like that (initiated by her, actually) before she made up her mind to start playing.

[Fapster69]

Yes that is great advice! I was just nodding along through the whole post!

I already asked her about the practicalities one time, I said would you prefer if I was there watching or in another room?

She said she didn’t know if she’d want me there or not!

If it really happened I think she would be someone who’d like a bit of both! Of course you’d need to be comfortable with the guy first!

The whole meeting someone and having to show your face, or potentially reveal your real name, would be a gigantic barrier if this ever progressed.

That’s why I think a holiday fling would be good, but then comes the problem of the guy not having been tested or having enough time to vet him!

I also meant to say, the last scene she came to was a steamy, homemade BBC hotwife scene. I kept mentioning to her how this scene was hot because it was a genuine couple!

I said my usual, “Look, that’s you!”, “Look, that’s me watching!” and, “Wow look at the size of that thing! Oh and there’s me… (small cocked husband) ”.

She came right after that! I’m really trying to drive home the ‘people really do this’ aspect.

[athlete915]

Thank you for the kind words, gentlemen. I'm glad you liked the post.

I remember reading a post where Leggysman gave similar advice to mine about maximalist versus appreciating what you have. That carries a lot of weight coming from an experienced cuck.

"I’m really trying to drive home the ‘people really do this’ aspect." One thing that I always come back to is how "normal" my couples have been. They've all been happy, loving couples, who no one would suspect were involved in the lifestyle. It just happened that in addition to their vanilla lives, the husbands loved watching their wives have incredible sex...

I would suggest that there are two very broad schools of thought on watching at first. One is that having the husband there makes the wife feel safe and reinforces that her husband supports what she is doing. The other is that the husband's presence will make the wife nervous and self-conscious. Instead of enjoying the sex, she'll be worrying about him.

I enjoy being watched, and it is one of the things I enjoy about being with couples, but the most important thing, especially at first, is doing what will make them feel most comfortable. If those first few sessions go well, they open the door to a lot more exploration, so I don't try to push one approach over the other. I just ask them both, emphasis on both, what they would like, talk to them about my previous experiences, and then settle on what is the best approach for them.

I've never had a couple where the cuck never watched; some just did so from the beginning, while it took a bit longer for the others. Aside from my own enjoyment at being watched, I like it because I think it helps connect the husband to my relationship with their wives. I never want them to feel like a left out, third wheel.

In the end, know what you want, understand what she wants, and if and when you're ready, find a guy who appreciates both and is willing to provide what you're looking for... safely and discreetly.

[sharedfantasy]

Has she made any mention of men at her workplace?
Amy erotic dreams where she was with another man?

Nothing like that! I definitely don’t want to go down that whole workplace route!

I mentioned how I need a sun tan because I’m so pale and she said we could go on holiday to somewhere sunny.

I brought up the joke that I made in the past and said, “Yeah and you can bring the g-string bikini! ”. She said back to me, “If it’ll make you go on holiday! “.

We never booked anything, but I think this could be a good real world experience! I really think she could be down to try this and it would be super hot to see her thick white cheeks bouncing down the beach with guys watching!

She could wear sunglasses and it would help with the people looking?

What do you guys think? It would be like soft-cucking (lol?) and could help build her confidence even more when I tell her the whole beach was staring!

I can’t say anything better than the gentlemen before me, but I can say that those are very good ideas.

Also, throwing out the g-string bait and her biting back sounds like a good sign. Plus the sunglasses idea..

If it’s one thing my wife and I both enjoy (but we haven’t had a crystal-clear ‘talk’ about it, yet), it’s going to the beach and doing the slow walks in front of all the guys; young, old, she loves all the attention, although she doesn’t say it or act it. You would be surprised at how fast a game of volleyball will stop, when a smoking hot woman walks by in minimal clothing; even if she is holding her husband’s hand

She knows how much I love it when men check her out because I tell her openly and it usually leads to great sex shortly afterwards. The hotter she feels, the more men (and women) stare at her, the hornier I get, then I show her that I am comfortable with it (either rubbing her hand that I’m holding, or whichever body part of her I decide to touch) for affirmation, and so builds her confidence a little bit more..

I think you’re on the right track and I love how creative us wannabes can get, when we become patient and smarter with the approach.

Book those tickets! I’m sure there are surprises waiting for you both