Wife and my Dad

[viking68]

Thank you
V

[armyguyot1]

Wow! What a wife. What a story. What a shit load of firsts. A very hot time. That wife of yours has got to be a dream cum true. Would love to hear her perspective of two guys and three cum loads in one night. Hot.

[Wistful]

I am encouraged to hear you and Jenna may be leaning toward more honesty with your Dad. I feel that could only benefit your situation. (Of course I have zero experience in and know nothing of the completely uncharted waters you two are brave enough to explore!) Thanks again for your posts.

[Extra1221]

Awesome! LIke armyguyot1 above, it'd be great to hear Jenna's perspective.....of anything that has occurred in this "new" relationship. Thanks so much for sharing this with all of us. You and Jenna are a great couple.

[bubbalapagos]

Thank you!!!

[nitelite]

This ongoing development is almost too good to be true.

[wingman]

Dave
Seeing you start down the dominant/submissive path is very alluring. The fact that your keeping it erotic instead of sleezy is even better. If you get off on some mild humiliation as part of the tease, tell her. She seems too caring of your feelings to venture down that road without knowing you'll love it. If its a sirection you want to go, fInd a safe word of sorts and tell her she can push the envelope until you use the safe word as a brake. From what you described today, she seems to love the control.

Who knows, soon she may start referring to you two as "little Dave" and "big John".

At any rate, Thanks again for a story told with masterful flair!

As always...

Your Wingman

[peaceman75206]

Great updates, thanks for sharing. I would suggest letting dad know. Otherwise the lack of comfort on the part of your dad,when together could drive you apart for what is for you and Jen no reason. I would wait on the submissive aspects for a while as he may not want to go there with his son. For that matter, you are just starting to explore that dynamic, and you mayn ot want to go much further, or you may want to embrace it fully. Just wait until you know.

[Wifesharing]

Great story so far. I love the detail the emotions and the hotness of the entire thread.


I know you don't ask for our opinions But I see Jeana's side to this and the fear of letting your dad know the truth. I think and only my opinion she is right and letting him know now will just hurt his feelings you already lied and deceived him. The time to lay it all on the table was in the begining when he could have been able to make a decision based on the facts not now.


Please eveyone else I am not judging in anyway I am offering my opinion on a forum. I think that either way it goes is fine, we in our life have guys that know everything and others that don't know I know we do it all on a guy by buy thing, some we think can handle it some we think can't.

[susanshusband]

My 2 cents. It may be too early to let Dad know which could kill it for Jenn who is really enjoying herself right now. But I do agree that he needs to know soon.

[ca54]

If things continue unabated, it's possible that Dad may start reasoning this out on his own in which case he may be the one to raise the question at some point.

We had a similar situation where the other guy was an older, long time friend of hers, who became my friend in the last year as well. They did make out one night while I was up stairs passed out and when she told him it would be ok to take it further, he was reluctant. Weeks later, she and I discussed if it were to happen, whether we should let him know that I was ok with it or not. M sent him a text "hey, no secrets, no worries". After some weeks of infrequent communication, he let it be known to her that he might be interested in pursuing a physical relationship but only if I did not know about it. I do not understand that mentality but that's just the way some guys are.

Anyway, great story telling Dave! Can't wait to hear about "first night".

[wantingfun]

OK, so after YEARS of lurking here, this thread has finally brought me out of the closet for my first post.

My suggestion on whether to tell Dad is to wait until Jenna feels like she is ready. Then she should tell Dad that she thinks Dave is starting to suspect something between her and someone else. That way, Dad can decide to cool it off completely or to risk going further. If he continues, he knows Dave will find out about them eventually. This will tell his true feelings/motivations and not weird him out. If Jenna comes right out and tells him Dave has known all along, Dad is going to feel a little taken, and given his level of status/ego, that could be damaging.

[rb83]

The other members of the dance class are sure to know/recognize that the relationship "status" of the two dance partners has changed...partners they know to be father/daughter-in-law. Who among us can't recognize a couple that is intimate from one that is not?

Thus, there exists the danger that an "outing" will occur should they continue the lessons together. Not saying "don't do it" but just be aware that the potential for external discovery is there...

[p_revere]

I've also lurked for ages but never posted. I believe John needs to be told that Dave knows, but it should be sooner than later. I don't think he'll feel he's been lied to if she says they weren't sure how he'd react at first, and the longer they wait, the more chance he'll feel betrayed. Jenna should tell him "Dave knows about us. He could sense the strong attraction between us and he found it to be very erotic. He encouraged me to take it as far as I wanted. Now that it's gone this far, he still finds it to be a turn-on. He's okay with this arrangement. He loves us both and wants us all to be happy."
If John is okay with that, then everyone will be able to enjoy themselves fully without worrying about anyone being hurt. Jenna will be able to spend as much time with John as she wants without having to make up a story to explain why Dave is not concerned about her absence; she can even stay overnight at times. Maybe 'dance night' could become a sleep-over night for Jenna.
I agree that this is the hottest thread ever on this forum, and I can't wait till the next installment.

[curiousdave]

Jenna should tell him "Dave knows about us. He could sense the strong attraction between us and he found it to be very erotic. He encouraged me to take it as far as I wanted. Now that it's gone this far, he still finds it to be a turn-on. He's okay with this arrangement. He loves us both and wants us all to be happy."

This is basically exactly what I would want to be said. Nice job! I couldn't have said it any better and it's the message I've thought about in my head over and over now. I know it's always going to be a freaky thing to hear a husband/son is ok you are banging his wife and he wants it to continue, no way around that fact. But really if it's said like this, how mad could you get? I mean he has a hot young thing throwing herself at him and a husband to that wife saying he likes it. How bad could he react? I mean if I was in his shoes and having as much fun as he seems to be having with her, I wouldn't complain too much lol.

Anyway everything else you said is how I see that too. Great minds think alike. It being out in the open between everyone involved opens the door for so many possibilities. Like you said, sleepovers eventually, maybe. Not hiding it or feeling ashamed. No guilty conscience or anything. I think it is a win win situation based on the fact that both want each other so badly. And for everyone thinking he may be hurt or feel used and deceived , I mean come on... bottom line here is he did sleep with my wife. Not allot of room there to judge and be angry about I don't think. But everyone is different so who knows. It's up to Jenna anyway and she will do what she wants. I told her I wouldn't bring it up again and I won't. Ball is in her court now.


Away from all that. No time to write my update yet (maybe later tonight). Jenna is at her Granddads right now and should be home soon. But thought I would share that the old dog stopped by and took her to lunch today. No not a booty call or anything, just lunch. She texted me and told me earlier this afternoon. It still excited me knowing about it all day. My wife spending her lunch hour with her new lover. Such a turn on. Maybe they talked sexy to each other or shared some kisses. Maybe I can find out soon.

Great post p revere, thanks!

[curiousdave]

The other members of the dance class are sure to know/recognize that the relationship "status" of the two dance partners has changed...partners they know to be father/daughter-in-law. Who among us can't recognize a couple that is intimate from one that is not?

Thus, there exists the danger that an "outing" will occur should they continue the lessons together. Not saying "don't do it" but just be aware that the potential for external discovery is there...

This is very possible. I haven't asked much about the dance class or who they interact with. It's something to think about. I'm not even sure if she told people she was his daughter in law or anything. As far as I know she hasn't made any real friends there or anything but maybe. I'll try and work this in a conversation and see what she thinks. Another good response and question...thank you.

[Niblick]

Dave,
All of us following your story are having a lot of fun with this. Not as much fun as you, Jenna, and John. :-) But, we are all enjoying this immensely. I really appreciate your sharing with all of us.
Thanks so much for all the fun!

[curiousdave]

Well I don't think I'm gonna write much tonight gang. A tad burned out after the last few nights. Maybe a good nights rest will recharge my batteries and I can tackle the project tomorrow evening.

I did want to share what I learned about lunch today though. Just a short little update while it's totally fresh in my mind. Jen got home just a bit ago and was very tired and went straight to bed. I did stand around and chat with her while she got ready for bed though. She said he called her around 11 am and asked if she was interested in lunch with him. She happily accepted. So he came round and picked her up (her teasing friend was off today so she didn't get an eye full or anything lol). She said it was just a normal little lunch, nothing special but she was happy he wanted to take her out, made her feel special she said. I asked if there was any hand holding or kissing or anything and she said no hand holding but he did kiss her goodbye when he dropped her off. He pulled around back of the salon she works at, away from the prying eyes of the front big window. They sat and talked for a minute or two and when it was time for her to go back in, he leaned over and gave her a quick peck on the lips. She teased him she said, and told him "You can do better than that can't you?" with a giggle. He looked around and made sure no one was around or looking and pulled her over into his lap and gave her a nice deep french kiss. She said when it was over she sat with her arms around his neck and said "Mmmm that's much better!" As she got off of his lap he patted her on her ass and said "Get to work" with a chuckle. She slapped back at his arm and told him to get to work. She said as she walked back to the back entrance of the salon he drove past her and waved and she said she blew him a playful kiss in return.

That little bit right there was enough to excite me big time. But she was clearly tired and ready for bed, no playing around. She gave me enough so I can go jack off before bed though, so I'm very happy about that. This stuff is just so hot to me. I can't get enough, even of the little stuff like tonight. So there's the lunch info. Hope some of you enjoy it as much as I did.

[Saskcouple]

Dave your ability to share these events is fantastic. Thanks again for sharing.

[armyguyot1]

Thanks Dave. You and she both need some rest occassionally.

[wingman]

......... I do accept her decision and think I always will but I really feel it would be best for him to know all the facts. I don't think any situation can ever be perfect in a situation like this (with who's involved in this particular 3some) but I've thought allot about it, and I just think it would be the best for him to know. .......

Dave -

Both sides of the tell/don't tell debate have valid points. However, at the end of the day you and Jenna are the only ones able to make the right decision for you both. As such I won't try and provide guidance on which way you should go. Rather my aim with this post is to suggest one possible "happy ending" for each choice.

Should you choose to keep John in the dark....
I would recommend using "strategic planning talks" between you and Jenna to guide the course of their relationship (to the degree possible). That way each of you gets their fun, and when it starts to get too complicated, you'll have an exit strategy in place that will let Dad down easy (e.g. ramp up your time spent with Dad, Jenna can then claim its getting too hard and express the need to end it... on good terms).

Should you choose to tell John.....
It needs to be done in a way that removes any guilt on Dad's part.
I would a recommend a plan where you are the one to tell him, let him know your cool with anything Jenna wants to do, but keep it short-and-sweet... more like a guy to guy talk. Then let Jenna clean up any emotional fallout, and fills in the details about how much you like it.

With this approach, execution is everything, and the devil is in the details. So here is a more elaborate plan than I offered for "keeping it a secret".

One approach to letting John in on the secret could be to......

First, set the stage, and here is what you'll need.....

• 1 A fabricated "rash of break-ins in the neighborhood" story
  2 A fabricated 3-day business trip that is last minute and ruins plans you and Jenna had for a romantic evening.
  3 A store near where John lives that gives you a reason to go there, and a reason to stop by his house on the way home.
  4 For Jenna to whip up his favorite dinner, and have it ready to bring over on queue.
  5 An day when John is sure to be home around dinner time.
  6 A whole big pile of "George Cloony/Oceans Eleven" 'Cool', topped of with a slight touch of "cat that ate the canary"

OK.. now execute the plan.....

Part 1 - The setup....
A few days prior to telling John....

• 1 Have Jenna arrange to go have sex with John.
  2 During her visit, she should tell John about the rash of break ins in your neighborhood and that she doesn't feel safe at home alone (dad may jokingly say she can stay with him anytime she needs to feel safe... LOL for both of them)

Part 2 - The Delivery...the one two punch....
On the day your going to tell John....

• Punch one... you tell John you know in a 'guy to guy' type conversation. This keeps your dignity and leaving him a bit frazzled.
  1 Anytime - Have Jenna make John his favorite dinner, and have dinner ready to go by 5:00
  2 Around 4:00 - You go to the store and pick up something for him (i.e. an excuse to drop by)as well as yourself (rationalize the store visit)
  3 Drive to 1 block from John's house and call him to say your stopping by for a second to drop something off and ask him a favor (this could make him nervous)
  4 Stop by John's place, but before you go in... call Jenna and tell her to bring dinner over, text you when she arrives, and wait at the door until you open it.
  5 Once inside, give John the item you bought from the store and make some small talk until you get Jenna's text. (John will still think somethings up)
  6 Now is the time to get "in character" with some Oceans Eleven "cool"!!!
  7 Ask John if he can do you a favor (he will say 'of course' of course).
  8 Tell John you have to go on a last-minute business trip and that you feel bad because your plans with Jenna got ruined and she does not feel safe alone in the house due to the neighborhood break-ins.
  9 Then ask John if he can 'take care of Jenna' while your gone, 'make sure she enjoys herself', and suggest he offer to let her stay at his place until you return. Most likely, John won't be able to completely hide his excitement and finding your request amusing... the stage is set!!
  10 When John responds "of course" accompanied by a bigger-than-he-should-have-grin", that's your queue to lay it on him!!
  11 Next, with a cool, cat-that-ate-the-canary look...say "I see from that grin you've been enjoying yourself as much as Jenna has". John will get a confused/scared look on his face, but will likely remain silent for a moment.
  12 Pause for a moment, give a big smile and say "yea, I've been on board with you and Jenna from the start. But no worries, I'm cool with it. Jenna and I talked it over at length when I first suggested she go for it. I also told her I'm cool with you and her doing anything she wants, as doing it as often as she wants." John will likely have a really confused look on his face now.
  13 After another short pause, finish out by saying (again with a big ole grin) "gota run....O-Yea, Jenna will be here with dinner any time now"
  14 Open the door and pretend to be surprised to see Jenna.
  15 Jenna should then walk in with a big smile, say "Hi hon", give you a quick kiss on the lips. and say "well if it isn't my two favorite studs". She should then finish up by saying to you "I brought Big John a good meal so he can get his strength back. I left yours on the table back home." She should then walk past you towards John, stop after a few steps, turn to you and say "don't wait up, I'll may be late"
  16 You laugh, smile, and say to Jenna "OK babe, wake me when you get home". Then say to the both of them "you two have fun, and don't wake the neighbors"
  17 Jenna should then laugh and say "no promises"
  18 You then leave... end of punch one.
  
  Punch two....Jenna smooths the emotional backlash and fill in the kinkier facts
  1 Jenna goes in a puts out dinner like nothing has happened.
  2 At dinner, Jenna should say "so he decided to let the cat out of the bag. I'm sorry we didn't tell you earlier, but Dave needed to figure out the best way... guess he did that. Anyway, he is cool with everything we are doing. In fact, it was his idea that I pursue the attraction we have. Given what you and I felt, and what he felt, Dave thought it was a win-win for everyone."
  3 At that point, she should ask for John's thoughts and engage him in some discussion on the topic. During that discussion she should convey the following during the course of the conversation....
  • a that you had always wanted share her with another man, and this seemed like the perfect opportunity.
    b that you get extremely turned by her being with John, and that your relationship with Jenna is now stronger than ever.
    c that you wanted to have this out in the open (between the three of you) so her and John can explore this as much as the want, as often as they want.
    d that she tells you most of the details so you can vicariously partake in the fun.
    e if Jenna feels John is handling it well, she could elect to convey that you like to get verbally teased with her being serviced by a bigger well-hung stud (that should replace any frown left on John's face with a big ole smile)
    f that this is living out a fantasy, not a lifestyle you guys will maintain permanently.
  4. Jenna should then tell John she will be back after work tomorrow and is his for the next 2 days. So they have 2 days to talk through everything, and have fun
  5. Jenna should then Fuck your John's brains out, come home and tell you all about it.
  6. She should then pack a bag to stay at Johns, and go over there after work. She will be his for 2 days.

You can either stay home, or go visit somewhere for 2 days. Either way, when Jenna gets home... you''ll have a month's worth of writing to catch up!!!!


Hopefully you will find some aspect of these two plans useful in deciding and moving down whichever road you choose.

Good luck and I'll look forward to tomorrow's installment.

BTW - Yesterdays posts were at 1:30am EDT.... Dude, no wonder your tired... livin the dream by day/evening... writing about it all night!! Get some sleep!!


Flyin under the radar....

Your Wingman

[BurlNCCuck]

Dave, stop wasting it in your hand... Save it for your wonderful wife!! LOL

BurlNCCuck

[Morgan]

For my 2 cents worth I suggest that when John brings up Dave's name sometime Jenna should mention Dave’s dream. You know the one, only this time it is her opening to tell John that the dream didn't freak Dave out so much and that he brought it up a few times. Almost like he was telling her that he knew in a way and was letting her know that he was ok with it. She then tells John that she eventually confessed to Dave what had been going on because he seemed ready to hear it. Now everything will be on the table to be talked out.

[mopacpower]

Dave, did you write down what happen the first night? If you didn't you could start forgetting details, post it when you can. We all would love to hear about it!

Since, this isn't a one night thing, and developing into a sexual relationship, you might not have the energy to do it later, depending on what your wife and dad do.

Dave, did her pussy feel stretched when she came home last Friday?

[susanshusband]

For my 2 cents worth I suggest that when John brings up Dave's name sometime Jenna should mention Dave’s dream. You know the one, only this time it is her opening to tell John that the dream didn't freak Dave out so much and that he brought it up a few times. Almost like he was telling her that he knew in a way and was letting her know that he was ok with it. She then tells John that she eventually confessed to Dave what had been going on because he seemed ready to hear it. Now everything will be on the table to be talked out.

I agree with Morgan. Why not run this by Jen?